The leading DePIN podcast, brought to you by Connor Lovely and Escape Velocity Ventures. DePIN = Decentralized Physical Infrastructure Networks.
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[Previously the Weird Rap Podcast.] Documenting and investigating rap music's most advanced artists, its experimental fringes, and otherwise unique or mysterious manifestations in the world of hip hop, new and old, focusing on its beauty, its complexities and its curiosities. Hosted by Th' Mole, veteran rapper, producer, and performing artist. Extraordinary Rap is an independently-run podcast, record label, and news/social media presence. http://extraordinaryrap.org
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Building an Enterprise-Grade DePIN for Compute with Aethir
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In today’s episode, Connor is joined by Mark Rydon, a key figure in the decentralized infrastructure space, particularly focusing on Aethir and its innovative approach to DePIN (Decentralized Physical Infrastructure Networks). They discussed how Aethir has built a robust revenue-generating model centered around enterprise-grade AI and gaming soluti…
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Building a DePIN for Drone Mapping with Spexi
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Connor sat down with Alec Wilson, the COO of Spexi Network, a groundbreaking drone mapping company that is revolutionizing the earth imaging space. They spoke about how Spexi is leveraging the vast number of underutilized drones to create an ultra-high-resolution base layer of earth imagery, which is significantly more detailed than what satellites…
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Building the First Programmable Datachain with Irys
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Connor welcomes back old co-host Sami Kassab (now a Partner at OSS Capital) and guest Josh Benaron, founder of Irys, a next-generation data provenance and storage L1. They delved into the evolution of Irys from its origins as Bundlr, an L2 solution for Arweave, to its current status as a programmable data chain. Josh shared his insights on the impo…
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Co-hosts Connor and Mahesh discuss the rapidly evolving world of DePIN and the broader implications for the crypto sector. They discuss whether they should be concerned about the proliferation of projects labeling themselves as DePIN and whether it's time to create more specific subcategories within the sector. Connor shares insights from a recent …
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Connor had the pleasure of speaking with Shaan Chaudhari, his college friend and Chief Growth Officer at XNET. They reminisce about their early days in the DePIN space, particularly during the challenging bear market when investor interest was low and token prices were down. Shaan shared his journey and his pivot from potentially attending dental s…
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Building a DePIN for Improved GPS Accuracy with Geodnet
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In today’s episode, Sal and Connor had an insightful discussion with Mike from Geodnet about their recent move to become a multi-chain platform. They explored the motivations behind this decision, particularly how it allows Geodnet to tap into different Web3 communities and enhance adoption of their utility token, GEOD. Mike shared that Geodnet is …
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Building a DePIN-powered CDN with Blockcast
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Connor had the pleasure of sitting down with Omar Ramadan, a former big tech entrepreneur who transitioned into the world of crypto and DePIN. They delved into the concept of Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) and how they play a crucial role in enhancing user experience by caching website data closer to users geographically. Omar shared his backgrou…
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Building the Immune System for DePIN with Reppo
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Today Connor and Dave Grantham dive deep into the concept of real-world verification and its critical role in scaling DePINs. Dave shares insights on how AI can enhance the governance and reputation systems within these networks. They discuss the importance of functional verification, which allows us to build a reputation graph that helps distingui…
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Embedding blockchain functionality in IoT devices with Minima
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Connor had the pleasure of speaking with Adam Feiler from Minima, a pioneering company in the blockchain space. They delved into the evolving landscape of technology, particularly the shift from cloud-based solutions back to on-device processing. Minima positions itself as an embedded blockchain that allows for data attestation at the source, which…
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(F)ederated (L)earning on the Bl(ock)chain with Flock
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Connor is joined by Jiahao Sun of Flock, a project that aims to revolutionize the AI landscape through decentralization. They discussed the growing trend of open-source AI models catching up to their closed-source counterparts, raising the question of whether closed-source AI is becoming obsolete. Jiahao emphasized the importance of community-drive…
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Building a Next-Gen Decentralized Wireless Network
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Connor welcomes Samer Bishay, founder of Karrier One, who recently acquired Cellular Spectrum in Canada. This acquisition marks a significant milestone for Karrier One, allowing them to transition from a mobile virtual network operator (MVNO) to a mobile network operator (MNO). This change not only gives them a seat at the table among major players…
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Building the Largest Smartphone-based DePIN with Nodle
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In this episode, Connor had the pleasure of speaking with Garrett of Nodle, a groundbreaking startup that utilises smartphones to create a decentralized network for various applications. They discussed how Nodle began its journey seven years ago, initially focusing on building mesh networks to facilitate communication in areas without internet acce…
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Building a Next-Gen Blockchain with Movement Labs
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In this episode, Mahesh sits down with Rushi Manche, the founder of Movement Labs, to explore the dynamic world of decentralized physical infrastructure (DePIN) and the Move programming language. The conversation begins with a look at the innovative work of the Solana team, particularly the unexpected success of the Solana Saga phone, which has piq…
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In today’s episode we welcome back co-host John Wu and introduce Ash Ahmed, a recent Harvard College graduate and co-founder of Axal. Ash shares his fascinating journey from being a competitive debater to the world of startups and cryptocurrency. We discuss the unique bond between Ash and his twin brother, who is also making waves in the venture sp…
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Building a Global Decentralized Manufacturing Network with 3DOS
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In this episode, Connor talks to John Dogru of 3DOS about the evolving landscape of 3D printing and its implications for manufacturing and entrepreneurship. John, a seasoned veteran in the 3D printing industry, discusses how the expiration of key patents in the mid-2010s has led to increased competition, driving down costs and improving quality. Th…
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Behind Frictionless Capital’s Unwavering Support for Solana
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In today’s episode Connor was joined by Logan Jastremski, an investor and co-founder of Frictionless Capital. They delved into the evolving landscape of venture capital in crypto, particularly focusing on the DePIN sector, which has gained significant traction over the past six months. Logan shared his insights on the importance of conviction in th…
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In today's episode, Connor interviews Shayon Sengupta, an early investor in DePIN. They discuss the rapid growth and potential of DePIN as a business model innovation enabled by crypto. Shayon highlighted the importance of both supply and demand sides in the DePIN space, emphasizing the need for pragmatic approaches to onboarding demand. They also …
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In this episode, Connor welcomed back Sami Kassab, a DePIN OG and former PoC podcast co-host. Connor and Sami discussed the growing relevance and popularity of DePIN in the current market, with a focus on real-world value creation. Sami shared insights on the latest developments in the Bittensor ecosystem, highlighting its role as a decentralized A…
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In today’s episode, Connor discusses the importance of real-world verification in the DePIN network with Raullen Chai from IoTeX. They explore the challenges of ensuring devices in the network perform as expected and provide minimum levels of service. Raullen highlights IoTeX's approach to addressing this issue through device integrity, data privac…
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In today’s episode Connor interviews Ben Schiller, a crypto journalist from CoinDesk, about the recent launch of a DePIN vertical on their platform. Ben discusses the importance of covering DePIN as a separate topic due to its unique focus on physical infrastructure and tangible services. They also touch on the evolution of the DePIN industry, the …
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In today’s episode, we had Jonathan from SkyTrade as our guest, discussing the current state and future of air rights in the drone industry. Jonathan highlighted the use cases of air rights in real estate, views protection, and overhangs. He also emphasized the importance of drones and cargo drones in the future of low-altitude transit. Jonathan sh…
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In this episode, Connor, Sal, and Mahesh discussed the recent DePIN Summit and reflected on the highs and lows of the event. They talked about the importance of bringing the DePIN community together in person to foster collaboration and innovation and shared their experiences with recording the podcast in-person and the overall success of the Summi…
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Connecting the Unconnected with Dabba Network
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In this episode, Connor and Mahesh are joined by Karam Lakshman, the founder of the Dabba Network, a wireless network project in India. Karam shared the journey of Dabba, starting from a software consulting company to the deployment of Wi-Fi hotspots across India. The unique model of decoupling hotspot ownership and deployment was highlighted, allo…
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Upgrading the Energy Grid with the Daylight Network
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In this episode, Connor & Sal are joined by Jason from Daylight. They delve into the world of energy and blockchain technology with a focus on the Daylight Network. The conversation touched on various topics, including the concept of energy as a commodity, the challenges and opportunities in the energy industry, and the evolution of the Daylight Ne…
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In this episode, Mahesh and guest host John Wu are joined by Kaledora Fontana Kiernan-Linn, Co-Founder of Ostium Labs. Ostium is committed to delivering solutions around stablecoin settlement, low-latency oracle-based pricing, minimal liquidity provider exposure, and a disintermediated and unbiased trading environment. We discuss the world of Ostiu…
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Decentralized Serverless Compute with Fluence Network
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Sal is joined by Tom Trowbridge, Co-Founder of Fluence Labs. Fluence’s DePIN platform frees developers from centralized clouds by offering natively decentralized, low cost, and verifiable compute. In today’s episode, we dive deep into the world of decentralized networks with real-world utility. We discuss the trade-offs of decentralization, share p…
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Accelerating DePIN Adoption Through Restaking With Parasail
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In this episode, Sal is joined by ZX and Sylvan from Parasail - the leading restaking protocol for DePIN. Parasail is the first restaking protocol to provide onchain economic guarantees for DePIN services, helping drive DePIN adoption and onchain revenues. Discover how they’re connecting established crypto assets with emerging DePIN services to bac…
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Reinventing Energy Markets With Srcful & Helium
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In this special episode, Connor is joined by Abhay Kumar and Joey Hiller from Helium, as well as Fredrik Ahlgren and Tobias Ohlsson from Srcful to discuss Srcful’s proposal to build a decentralized energy grid on top of Helium Network infrastructure. Helium is one of the oldest, largest DePIN projects, mostly focused on building out wireless networ…
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Epic has incited many a hardcore head to clench their cheeks and shout, "This shit ain't hip hop!" But a look into Epic's work reveals him as a deep admirer of the culture and a learned student of the craft. Instead of adopting inner city affectations, as so many other white rappers have, Epic chose to be himself and lean into his Canadian prairie …
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Houman Shadab and Wyatt Benno, Co-Founders at ICME Labs (NovaNet)
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Connor and Sal are joined by guests Houman Shadab and Wyatt Benno from NovaNet. NovaNet is building an incentive and coordination network for zero knowledge proofs that run locally and leverage the latest advances in ZK technology. The group discusses the zk yin to blockchain’s yang, how ZK proofs compare to other trustless verification methods lik…
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Amir Haleem (CEO) and Boris Renski (GM of Wireless) from Nova Labs (Helium)
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Connor and Sal are joined by guests Boris Renski & Amir Haleem from Helium. The Helium project is a DePIN building wireless networks. From tackling the intricacies of the token structure to discussing strategies for increasing data flow over Helium mobile hotspots, this episode promises to be an insightful exploration of the latest developments in …
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Harrison Hines, CEO of Fleek and Co-Founder of Fleek Network
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Connor and Sal sit down with Harrison Hines of Fleek Network. Fleek is the lightning fast onchain cloud, powered by the Fleek Network, permissionless onchain cloud infrastructure, edge-optimized for performance. Harrison talks about what parts of Web2 infrastructure Fleek is solving, how they think about their GTM operations vs. technical operation…
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Anon Morpho, Neuratic, and DNB from ATOR Protocol
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This week, Sal is joined by Anon Morpho, Neuratic and DNB from the Ator team. Ator is building the largest global anonymous-routing ecosystem, leveraging a decentralized privacy protocol, on-chain incentives and signature hardware to rapidly scale its network. The team discusses why privacy is so important to them, how Ator is advancing decades-old…
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Andrej Radonjic, Co-Founder and CEO of Grass Network
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Sami and Connor are joined by Andrej Radonjic, Founder of Grass Network. Grass is a network of over 2M+ people incentivized to assist AI developers in accessing data on the internet. Grass creates a more equitable and inclusive future for the development of AI. 00:00 Connor lives in a Resort 00:34 Grass merch coming soon 01:20 Catching up with Andr…
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pedestrian doesn't work well with the algorithm. Web searches for his indistinct moniker are useless; his small number of music releases is poorly-distributed; and while he's received a fair amount of critical praise, most was never, or is no longer, online. Even before the internet was so integral to a musician's career, James Brandon Best, as he …
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Alireza Ghods, Co-Founder and CEO of Natix
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Mahesh and Sal are joined by Alireza Ghods, CEO & Co-Founder of Natix. Natix is a global mapping network of smart cameras. Natix’s 100k drivers have mapped 30M km across 170 countries. Alireza takes on the great DePIN mapping hardware debate, making the case for smartphones over dedicated hardware, lays out the long-term vision for Natix as a camer…
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Neil Chatterjee, CEO of Andrena and Ani Pai, Partner at Dragonfly Capital
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Mahesh, Connor, and Sami are joined by Neil Chatterjee, CEO of Andrena and Ani Pai, Partner at Dragonfly Capital. Andrena is working to deliver affordable broadband to buildings by partnering with real estate owners and property managers through a revenue-share arrangement. They currently have 10,000 customers across 10 US states. Neil and Ani talk…
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This week, we’re still recovering from ETH Denver. Mahesh gets Sami, Connor, and Sal to fill us in on what we missed out West, including new DePIN themes coming the rest of the year, where DePIN fits into the current wave of ATH’s and memecoins, which projects are still underhyped, and the benefits of being IRL. 0:00 Welcome Back 1:19 I guess we ha…
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Connor, Sami, and Mahesh are joined by Raullen Chai, Co-Founder of IoTeX. IoTeX is the platform for DePIN builders, combining a fast, secure blockchain with IoT and smart devices. Raullen talks about how he fell in love with crypto when he tried to break Bitcoin (and couldn’t do it), why he dedicated his work in crypto to supporting DePIN, the comp…
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Matt Katz (CEO of Caldera) and Neel Somani (CEO of Eclipse)
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Sal is joined by Matt Katz of Caldera, and Neel Somani of Eclipse. Caldera is a no-code web3 infrastructure platform, trying to simplify the process of creating app-specific blockchains so builders can create layer-2 blockchains in a matter of hours. Eclipse is Ethereum’s fastest L2, powered by the Solana Virtual Machine - a new kind of architectur…
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Jonathan Victor, Co-Founder of Ansa Research, former Ecosystem Lead at Protocol Labs
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Mahesh and Connor are joined by Jonathan Victor. Jonathan formerly worked on Filecoin at Protocol Labs, and left to found Ansa Research, a research firm focused on distributed infrastructure covering digital networks that aim to rebuild how internet infrastructure operates. Jonathan talks about how his Palantir background influenced his time at Pro…
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Sami, Connor and Mahesh are joined by Ryan Selkis, Founder and CEO of Messari. Messari provides market intelligence that drives high-conviction participation in the crypto economy. Ryan discusses his thoughts on the current state of crypto regulation, its implications on the 2024 US Presidential election, where he hopes Vivek Ramaswamy lands next, …
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Sami and Mahesh are joined by Nick Emmons, CEO & Co-Founder of Upshot. Upshot is a decentralized AI network optimized for DeFi applications. The network incentivizes participants to contribute their expertise, which can include machine learning models, data, and other forms of knowledge, cultivating a cooperative ecosystem where contributors collec…
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Jules Urbach (CEO) and Trevor Harries-Jones (Director) of The Render Network
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Connor and Sami are joined by Jules Urbach, CEO of OTOY and Founder of Render, and Trevor Harries-Jones, COO of OTOY and Director at Render Network Foundation. The Render Network is the first decentralized GPU rendering platform, empowering artists to scale GPU rendering work on-demand to high performance GPU nodes around the world. Through a block…
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Insurgent rapper/author/organizer Mic Crenshaw joins us for an in-depth look into his anti-racist actions, community upliftment, music and much more. Plus reviews of Wet-Jet Seymour and Mars Kumari. In our bonus episode we cover new and old releases by Danny Brown, Buck 65, Doseone, Jel, Sole & The Skyrider Band, Congplexonome, Gensu Dean & Denmark…
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Ariel Seidman, Co-Founder and CEO of Hivemapper
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Connor, Sami, and Mahesh are joined by Ariel Seidman, CEO / Co-Founder of Hivemapper. Hivemapper is building the world’s freshest map with AI and a network of drivers using dashcams. Ariel talks about why Hivemapper uses purpose-built hardware, the problems with centralized mapping today, how they designed the HONEY token design to dynamically matc…
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Adam Jackson, Co-Founder and CEO of Braintrust
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Connor and Mahesh sit down with Adam Jackson, Co-Founder and CEO of Braintrust. Braintrust is the first user-owned talent network, matching enterprise employers to vetted knowledge workers. Today, Braintrust boasts over 3,000 employers hiring from a pool of 500,000 freelancers who have collectively earned over $150M on the Braintrust network. Adam …
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