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Episode 212 - Running Across Pakistan for Education
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Tabarak Rehman who is attempting to become the first person ever to run 1,400 kilometers across the length of Pakistan to raise awareness around the country’s education crisis. His goal is to raise $1 million for The Citizens Foundation, an incredible non-profit that operates nearly 2,000 schools in Pakistan.Tabarak …
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Episode 211 - Did Pakistan Truly Achieve Freedom?
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Dr. Ilhan Niaz about where Pakistan stands today and the nature of the status quo ruling the country. We also talked about the mainstreaming of anti-establishment views and what that means for the politics in the country.Finally, we also talked about modernization and the role of the Protestant Reformation in kick-st…
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Episode 210 - What happened in Bangladesh and what comes next?
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Amb. Shamsher Mubin Chowdhury about what led to the collapse of the Hasina regime in Bangladesh and what comes next for the country. We focused on the reasons why younger citizens were angry with the government and reports of violence against Hindus over the last few days. We also discussed whether foreign agencies l…
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Episode 209 - What's going on in Balochistan?
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Balochistan’s city of Gwadar has been the center of protests for the last few days. Roads and highways leading into the city have been blocked and countless protestors have been arrested. Uzair talks to Dr. Mahvish Ahmad to figure out what is going on in the province and better understand the underlying reasons for the crisis in Balochistan.Dr. Mah…
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Episode 208 - Can the status quo be sustained in Pakistan? (Urdu)
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Zaigham Khan about the ongoing polycrisis in Pakistan and the path forward. We focused on the structural drivers of this conflict, in particular the breaking down of the post-Zia social contract that has sustained Pakistan’s political economy for decades. Zaigham argues that the PTI’s popularity is a symptom of the u…
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Episode 207 - Is a Hezbollah-Israel War Imminent?
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Faysal Itani about the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hezbollah. We talked about the current state of play, the strategic goals for both sides, and the role of the United States, Iran, and other powers.Faysal Itani is a Senior Director at the New Lines Institute for Strategy and Policy. He is also an adjunct pro…
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Episode 206 - Why a PTI ban may shake the foundations of Pakistan
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Zahid Hussain about the latest in Pakistan, where the Sharif government has announced it will seek to ban Imran Khan’s PTI. This is a dangerous move and Zahid helps us understand why this reflects the ruling regime’s weakness.We also talked about internal politics within the Pakistan Army and why this confrontation i…
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Episode 205 - France Resists the Far Right, For Now
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Gilles Verniers about the recent French parliamentary election results. With many expecting gridlock in Paris, Gilles helps us understand what the results mean and what comes next for the country.Gilles Verniers is Karl Loewenstein Fellow and Visiting Assistant Professor of Political Science at Amherst College, and S…
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Ep 204 - Assessing Biden's Policy Towards Israel and Palestine
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This episode is about assessing Joe Biden’s foreign policy as it relates to the ongoing conflict in Gaza. While not a whole lot has changed in terms of the substance of US policy towards Palestine and Israel, a lot has indeed changed in terms of the political discourse in Washington.Uzair talked to Matt Duss about these developments and the long-te…
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Episode 203 - China asks Pakistan to do more
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There has been a lot of confusion about the recently-announced Azm-e-Istehkam effort, which was initially dubbed as an operation but later revised to be a vision by the Sharif-led government. To talk about what the state is trying to do and to better understand the growing security crisis across Pakistan, Uzair invited Iftikhar Firdous to the podca…
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Episode 202 - Budget Inflicts More Pain on Citizens
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Shehbaz Sharif’s government has put forward a new budget for the upcoming fiscal year, setting off a debate on more taxes, government spending, and economic reforms. As parliament debates the budget, some things may change about the exact numbers. But to discuss what has been put on the table, Uzair spoke to Ammar H. Khan about what this budget sig…
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Episode 201 - Preparing for extreme heat in the subcontinent
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This year has seen more record-breaking heatwaves across the subcontinent, leading to immense loss of life and economic output. Given climate change, these heatwaves are likely to be the new reality around the world, especially in Pakistan and India. Both these countries face tremendous risks from extreme weather events, especially heatwaves.In thi…
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Episode 200 - What just happened in the Indian elections?
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The world’s largest elections are over and they have delivered a surprise in India. While we will get more detailed analysis in the coming days, what is for certain is that the elections mark a return to coalition politics in the world’s largest democracy. Uzair spoke to Rahul Verma about what the results mean for India, Narendra Modi, and the coun…
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Episode 199 - Imran Khan v. Judiciary v. Establishment
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Abdul Moiz Jaferii about the ongoing cases in Pakistan’s superior judiciary. We focused on the wiretapping case being heard by Justice Babar Sattar, cases related to Imran Khan, and the broader implications of the supposed standoff between the establishment and the judiciary.We also focused on the political ramificat…
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Ali Khizar about the upcoming budget and the ongoing conversations between the IMF and Pakistan. We focused on why this government will only pursue incremental reforms, the issues with the power sector, and why broadening the tax base is unlikely for the time being.Ali Khizar is head of research at Business Recorder …
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Episode 197 - Prospects for Saudi Investment in Pakistan
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Ali Farid Khwaja about the potential of Saudi investments into Pakistan. We talked about why things were moving slowly, sectors Saudi is interested in, and why it is important for Pakistan to approach these conversations in a more professional manner.Ali Farid Khwaja is Chairman of KTrade Securities and has over a de…
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Episode 196 - Budget, Reforms, and the IMF
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Khurram Husain about the latest decision by the central bank to keep rates unchanged. We talked about why the central bank has a credibility problem and how the IMF is influencing its choices. We also discussed the ongoing conversations between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, why it feels different this time around, and t…
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Episode 195 - Pakistan's Stunting Crisis
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Uzair talks to Dr. Ghazala Mansuri about Pakistan’s stunting crisis and its implications for the country’s future. We focused on key causes of stunting, the linkage with Pakistan’s water supply, and what the country can learn from other nations. The conversation also focused on climate change and its impact on human development, especially stunting…
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Episode 193 - Why is foreign investment critical to Pakistan's economic success?
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Uzair talks to M. Abdul Aleem about the role of foreign investment in Pakistan’s economy and the key reforms that foreign investors would like to see in the country. We also talked about what leading executives look for in emerging talent, and the key pain points faced by foreign investors in Pakistan.Mr. Muhammad Abdul Aleem is the CEO and Secreta…
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Episode 192 - Why did Pakistan fall behind India and Bangladesh
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Uzair talks to Dr. Ishrat Hussain about his new book and its key findings. We focused on Dr. Hussain’s view of why Pakistan fell behind India and Bangladesh, why policy stability matters, and things that he is watching for on the economic front.Dr. Hussain’s latest book Development Pathways 1947-2022 is now available in Pakistan and you can order i…
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Episode 191 - How Israel's War on Gaza is Changing the Global World Order
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This week’s episode focuses on the ongoing Israeli war on Gaza and its implications for the global world order. Uzair talks to Jasmine El-Gamal to get an assessment of Israel’s campaign against Hamas, why Western leaders are out of sync with their own public opinion, and the path forward for ending this conflict.Jasmine El-Gamal is a national secur…
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Episode 189 - Teach for Pakistan - Solving Pakistan’s Education Crisis
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Uzair talks to Khadija Shahper Bakhtiar about Teach for Pakistan and the organization’s mission and vision. The conversation also focuses on the fellowship program being run by the organization and the key challenges facing Pakistan’s education sector.Khadija Shahper Bakhtiar is the Chief Executive Officer and Founder of Teach For Pakistan, a natio…
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Episode 189 - Deciphering Indonesia’s Elections
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Mehu Sitepu about Indonesia’s recently held presidential elections and its outcomes. These elections had a lot of similarities with Pakistan, including the use of social media to woo young voters, allegations of rigging, and questions over Indonesia’s policy towards the US and China.Mehu Sitepu is an Associate at The…
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Episode 188 - Competing in the elections as a PTI candidate
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Taimur Malik about his political campaign in NA-148, where he competed as a PTI candidate against PPP’s former prime minister Yusuf Raza Gilani.The margin of victory for the PPP’s candidate was razor thin and Taimur is currently in the process of appealing the results. We talked about the vote count, what was it like…
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Episode 187 - The devastating impact of arbitrary internet shutdowns
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Farieha Aziz about the ongoing curbs on the internet, with X facing recurring blocks for the last two weeks. We talk about what the courts have said about these blocks, the response from the PTA, and why the industry needs to be more vocal about arbitrary internet shutdowns.Chapters:0:00 Introduction2:10 Current situ…
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Episode 186 - How similar is 2024 to 1977?
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Dr. Ilhan Niaz about the 2024 elections and their implications for the country. We focused on what has occurred in the past and the various scenarios that could play out.We also talked about analog autocrats and their shortcomings, and how more repression could create further instability in the country.Chapters0:00 I…
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Episode 184 - Providing capital to SMEs and women
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Uzair talks to Navid Goraya about Karandaaz’s ongoing work in Pakistan and their focus on improving access to finance for SMEs and women. We also talked about the outlook for the year and the key things that have to happen after elections to rebuild confidence in the economy.Navid Goraya is the chief investment officer of Karandaaz Capital. He has …
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Episode 183 - Running in an election in Pakistan
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Uzair talks to Hamza Haroon, an independent candidate running in the national assembly elections in Pakistan from NA-46. Uzair talks to Hamza about his campaign strategy, the key issues facing Islamabad’s constituents, and what has he heard on the campaign trail.You can follow Hamza on X @HamzaAliHaroon and on Instagram @hamzaaharoon.Chapters:0:00 …
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Episode 182 - Pakistan Responds to Iran. What comes next?
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Dr. Kamran Bokhari about Iran’s unprovoked attacks on Pakistan, Pakistan’s counterstrike, and what comes next. We talked about the broader issues in the region, Iran’s own calculus, and the ways in which the regional dynamics are altered in the wake of these escalations.Dr. Kamran Bokhari is the Senior Director of th…
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Episode 181 - What will the economy look like in 2024?
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Khurram Husain about Pakistan’s economic outlook in 2024, why he is concerned about the cycle of revenge, and things he will watch out for immediately after elections in 2024.Reading Recommendations:- https://www.dawn.com/news/1804904/reassembling-pakistan- https://file.pide.org.pk/pdfpideresearch/discourse-2023-06-4…
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Episode 180 - Outlook for elections and beyond
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Welcome to the 2024 season of Pakistonomy. We begin this season with as usual an outlook episode. Uzair talks to Arifa Noor, journalist at Dawn and host of the show Newswise, about the upcoming elections, the crisis of legitimacy, and the electoral dynamics in the country right now. Chapters:0:00 Introduction3:50 State of media today17:50 Elections…
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Episode 179 - Why trauma-informed schools are a necessity in Pakistan
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Sabina Khatri about her work in Lyari, where she has spent over two decades investing in the education of a young generation of citizens. We talked about how and why Sabina began working in Lyari, the ways in which trauma hardens young children, especially men, and how community engagement and education can help birt…
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Episode 178 - Becoming a Cutting-Edge Scientist in Germany
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Dr. Bilal Khatri about his journey from Iqra University to Freiburg, where he is currently doing cutting-edge scientific research. We talked about the difference in how sciences are taught in Germany and Pakistan, why teaching the scientific method is important, and how innovation is going to transform our society.We…
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Episode 177 - How did we get here and what’s next for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Tuqa Nusairat about the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict, its key drivers and the path forward. We also talked about the regional responses so far and how the Biden administration has engaged with key partners in recent days.Tuqa Nusairat is the director for strategy, operations, and finance at Atlantic Council’s…
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Pakistonomy - Episode 176 - Reorienting the economy for sustainable growth
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Zafar Masud about Pakistan’s economy, how to reduce cash in circulation, and why fiscal deficits are the core problem that need resolution.Zafar Masud is an international banker and entrepreneur currently serving as the President and CEO of The Bank of Punjab. Previously, he has been employed at senior positions by m…
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Pakistonomy - Episode 174 - Can Pakistan Deal with Climate Change?
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Uzair talks to Zeeshan Salahuddin about the climate crisis and its impact on Pakistan. We focus on the fallout from the catastrophic floods in 2022, why the response was weak and the path forward for the country.Zeeshan is the Director for the Center for Regional and Global Connectivity (CRGC) at Tabadlab, a think tank and advisory services firm th…
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Pakistonomy - Episode 173 - LOKAL - Scaling an affordable tourism ecosystem
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Asim Kidwai about Pakistan’s tourism sector and LOKAL, a startup that is helping scaling an affordable tourism ecosystem in the country. We talk about his journey as an entrepreneur, how the startup is growing its presence across Pakistan, and the company’s expansion plans for the GCC.Asim Kidwai is co-founder and CE…
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Pakistonomy - Episode 172 - How Mexico Is Taking Advantage of the US-China Competition
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In this episode we talk about Mexico’s ongoing economic growth story, which has taken off due to increasing investments in light of the US-China competition. Uzair talks to Beatriz Navarro about what’s going on in the country, its politics, and the expectations around the upcoming elections.Beatriz is a lawyer and international public affairs speci…
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Pakistonomy - Episode 171 - How to deal with the power, smuggling, and dollar crisis
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Ammar Khan about the ongoing electricity and dollar crises in the country. We also touch on ways to resolve these issues and why they are linked to competence and willingness to make decisions.Ammar has written extensively on these topics and you can read some of his pieces using the links below:- https://www.google.…
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Pakistonomy - Episode 170 - Why did the dollar cross 300 rupees?
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Khurram Husain about what is going on with the rupee and why money supply growth is actually the real driver of the ongoing weakness of the currency. We also talk about why Khurram has a bleak outlook for the economy, what it will take to stop the vicious cycle, and his views on the SIFC.Chapters:0:00 Introduction1:2…
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Pakistonomy - Episode 169 - Afghanistan After 2 Years of Taliban Rule
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Dr. Asfandyar Mir about the evolving political and security situation in Afghanistan. We also talked about the terror landscape in the country and its impact on regional powers. Finally, we talked about the growing terror threat in Pakistan and why the Afghan Taliban have been unwilling to stop the TTP from using Afg…
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Pakistonomy - Episode 168 - Assessing the Outgoing Parliament
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Ammar Ali Jan about the last five years of democratic rule in Pakistan, the outlook for the next twelve months, and why the country is likely to face growing instability. We also talked about Ammar’s own political work in Lahore and why left-wing politics is necessary as an alternative means to engage people at the g…
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Mutaher Khan about the state of Pakistan’s startup ecosystem and the outlook for the next 12-18 months. Mutaher is a technology and business journalist, and co-founder of Data Darbar.Chapters:0:00 Introduction1:45 State of the ecosystem18:18 Why did big startups collapse?29:05 Talent demand for tech40:50 Impact of le…
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Tabadlab Pakistonomy - Episode 166 - Human-Healthcare: World Class Healthcare At Your Doorstep
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Access to quality healthcare is a major challenge across Pakistan. This is especially true for those of us who are abroad and need to find quality healthcare for our loved ones back home. Human-Healthcare aims to solve this problem, providing a one-stop concierge service for healthcare needs in the country.In this episode, Uzair talks to Dr. Atif Z…
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Pakistonomy - Episode 165 - The Role of the International War Economy in Pakistan's Dysfunction
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We have talked a lot about the role of Pakistani elites in the ongoing crises the country is facing, but not a whole lot on the role of the international order in influencing elite choices and Pakistan’s political economy. In this episode, Uzair talks to Azeema Cheema about the global drivers of Pakistan’s prolonged crises and the ways in which int…
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Pakistonomy - Episode 164 - India's Digital Data Protection Bill
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Adnan Ansari about India’s Digital Data Protection Bill and what it means for internet users in the country. We also talked about the impact of this legislation on businesses and the investments India is looking to make in Digital Public Infrastructure.Adnan Ahmad Ansari is an Associate Vice President with The Asia G…
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Pakistonomy - Episode 163 - What comes after the IMF deal
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Dr. Fahd Ali about the recent deal Pakistan reached with the IMF and what comes next. We also talked at length about the taxation challenges in Pakistan, whether the country needs debt restructuring, and what he would like to see policymakers focus on in the next 12 months.Dr. Fahd Ali is Assistant Professor and Dean…
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Pakistonomy - Episode 162 - India-US relations after Modi's DC visit
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Ashok Malik about Modi’s visit to the United States and the future of US-India relations. We also talked about India’s foreign policy in the Middle East, and prospects of trade between India and Pakistan.Ashok Malik is a Partner at The Asia Group and Chair of its New Delhi-based subsidiary in India where he leads the…
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Pakistonomy - Episode 161 - On Karachi, Journalism, and Digital Media
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Mahim Maher about her career in journalism and digital media, what she found covering the problems of Karachi, and things that aspiring and young journalists should focus on.Mahim most recently served as a digital editor at Aaj and has several years of experience across multiple news organizations in Pakistan.Chapter…
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Pakistonomy - Episode 160 - India's strategic competition with China
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In this episode, Uzair talks to Dr. Tanvi Madan about how India is dealing with a rising China and the current state of India-China relations. We also talked about what tensions between India and China mean for the country’s relations with the United States.Dr. Tanvi Madan is a senior fellow in the Project on International Order and Strategy in the…
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