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The Ordinary, Extraordinary Cemetery

Jennie Johnson & Dianne Hartshorn

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The Ordinary, Extraordinary Cemetery is a podcast for cemetery lovers, preservationists, and even those who've never walked among the graves. Join hosts Jennie and Dianne as they explore old cemeteries and learn the stories of those buried within their walls. After all, every death had a life, and every life had a story.
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The Grim

Kristin Lopes

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The Grim is a captivating blog/podcast that transports its audience to the eerie realm of graveyard strolls. Join us as we recount spine-chilling tales from the shadowy realms of forgotten tombstones and crumbling monuments. Picture yourself sipping on a warm cup of coffee, its aroma mingling with the whispers of the restless souls surrounding you. Each episode delves into the haunts and history of cemeteries around the world, unraveling the secrets they hold within their silent grounds. Thr ...
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The Grim is opening the gate and going into the meaning of Taphophilia for this weeks graveyard stroll. Taking a break from our normal routine and sharing a little more about The Grim’s creation and why. Sharing how our love of of funerals, cemeteries, and the rituals of death came to be. Looking to Haunt Us? Send us a text? We'll Try Not to Ghost …
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Send us a Text Message. In part 1 of "The Great Eiffel Tower Swindle" Jennie and Dianne share the humble beginnings of a man who became known as one of the world's greatest swindlers, Victor "The Count" Lustig; and left listeners hanging after recounting his notorious first sale of the Eiffel Tower in 1925. In part 2 the ladies follow Lustig's esca…
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Send us a Text Message. As the world's eyes are on Paris for the Olympics, we're looking back at a different kind of champion - the con artist who sold the Eiffel Tower not once, but twice! We're shining a light on the Ordinary Extraordinary story of Victor Lustig who sold the unsellable and swindled the unsuspecting. Join Dianne and Jennie for par…
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The Grim is unlocking the gate and entering Highgate Cemetery in London England. Known for being haunted by vampire walking within the grounds each night through the Victorian tombs that grace this hallowed ground. Find why this cemetery was one of the most sought after of the magnificent seven and resting place of many of London’s Victorian elite …
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The Grim is unlocking the gate and entering Westminster Burying Ground. Dig into history while taking a stroll through Baltimore's most haunted graveyard and it's catacombs. Finding the first and then final resting place of Edgar Allan Poe, numerous Generals of America, and one of it's found fathers. Yet be careful, strolling quietly through the gr…
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Send us a Text Message. On this episode of The Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery, Jennie and Dianne pay a virtual visit to the graveside of a man who truly made a "splash" not only in America, but around the world. Join them as they relate the fascinating story of John Michael Kohler, the man credited as the inventor of the modern bathtub. From his h…
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The Grim is unlocking the gate and entering Stull Cemetery in Stull, Kansas. Dig into history while taking a stroll through a cemetery that has more urban legends than it can keep up with. Learn about how university students started the lore on Stull becoming the Devil’s cemetery two nights of year. Find what lies within the old stone church and if…
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Send us a Text Message. This week on the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery podcast Jennie and Dianne review their recent "gravestone preservation workshop" after attending the "48 State Tour" hosted by Atlas Preservation at Evergreen Cemetery in Colorado Springs, Colorado. They share what they learned and what was accomplished while working alongside…
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The Grim is unlocking the gate and entering Boothill Graveyard in Tombstone, Arizona. Dig into history while taking a stroll through the most notorious town of America’s Wild West. Learning why most of it’s permanent residents no longer call Boothill Graveyard their resting grounds. Is Boothill even real or just a Hollywood set turned tourist trap …
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Send us a Text Message. This week on the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery podcast Jennie and Dianne chat about Dianne's recent East Coast adventures in Rhode Island and Massachusetts. Dianne shares about the many historical locations she visited including the Lizzie Borden house in Fall River Massachusetts, sites important to the American revolution…
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The Grim is unlocking the gate and entering St. Louis Cemetery #1 in New Orleans, Louisiana. Dig into history while taking a stroll through New Orleans oldest extant cemetery filled with haunts inside and outside it’s gates. See why public access is no longer allowed within the #1, cities of the dead and if Voodoo Queen Marie Laveau might grant you…
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Send us a Text Message. Happy Birthday America, or as Americans say, "Happy 4th of July!" Jennie and Dianne celebrate America's birthday with author and presidential historian Kurt Deion as he recounts his adventures in his book "Presidential Grave Hunter: One Kid's Quest to Visit the Tombs of Every President and Vice President". From sneaking past…
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The Grim is unlocking the gate and entering Chestnut Hill Cemetery in Exeter, Rhode Island. Dig into history while taking a stroll through grounds of a historic a vampire hunt in American History. See why the soul of Mercy Lena can’t rest in Rhode Island after the consumption epidemic in America. All while the population dwindled during the panic o…
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode of the "Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery" podcast, Jennie chats with Sandra K. Doyle, a former deathcare industry professional turned author. Sandra's book, "MY LIFE AT THE CEMETERY: IT'S NOT AS DEAD AS YOU THINK", is a heartwarming and sometimes humorous collection of stories from her fourteen years working i…
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The Grim is unlocking the gate and entering Forest Hills Cemetery in Boston, Massachusetts. Dig into history while taking a stroll through the beautiful art within 275 lush green acres. Explore the resting place of many famous women who helped secure women's rights in America, famous poets and unusual sculptures within. Looking to Haunt Us? Send us…
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Send us a Text Message. “Cemeteries are for the living. They’re there for us, they’re there to comfort us, they’re there to educate us, they’re there to provide peaceful meditative places to contemplate our own mortality and our own life." This is what Tui Snider told Dominic Genetti of the Midland Daily News and she said it again on this week's ep…
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The Grim is unlocking the gate and entering Bonaventure Cemetery in Savannah Georgia. Dig into history while taking a stroll through the notoriously haunted southern gothic cemetery. Beneath the oak trees leave a gift for ‘Little Gracie’ while listening for the smashing of crystal from parties long since past. But beware the ghosts of the guard dog…
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Send us a Text Message. Join Jennie and Dianne on the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery podcast as they delve into the hidden histories of Charleston, South Carolina's iconic graveyards. This week, they're joined by Patrick Harwood, a man who's spent his career uncovering the truth. From his days as an investigative journalist to his current work as …
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The Grim is unlocking the gate and entering Charter Street Cemetery in Salem, Massachusetts. Dig into history while taking a stroll through the pious chastier’s graves of the infamous Salem Witch Trials. While paying respects to the innocent victims from so long ago. Learn who might be lingering among the graves or establishments in the Witch City.…
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Send us a Text Message. Ask and ye shall receive! This episode was made possible because several listeners reached out to this week's guest letting him know that Jennie and Dianne were eagerly hoping to speak with him. Get ready for a journey through history as Jennie and Dianne welcome Ed Breen, a descendant of the incorrigible Maurice Breen, whos…
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The Grim is unlocking the gate and entering Myles Standish Burial Ground in Duxbury Massachusetts. Dig into history while taking a stroll through the final resting place of pilgrims who traveled on the Mayflower. Rediscovering their burial ground after a poem's popularity of a love triangle intrigued the nation. Looking to Haunt Us? Send us a text?…
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Send us a Text Message. Join Jennie and Dianne on the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery podcast as they welcome Mel Bennett, founder of Life Forest cemetery, for a heartwarming and insightful conversation. Mel shares the personal story of how Life Forest was born out of her desire to give her mother a better burial after a long and painful battle wit…
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Send us a Text Message. Just in time for Memorial Day, Jennie and Dianne are honored to be joined in this episode by Major General Mari K. Eder (U.S. Army, Retired) to discuss her amazing book, 'The Girls Who Stepped Out of Line'. These Ordinary Extraordinary women are "heroes of the Greatest Generation whom you have most likely never heard about. …
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode of the ordinary extraordinary cemetery podcast, Jennie and Dianne are joined by returning guest Hugh Yemen as he shares a tale that in many ways is truly stranger than fiction! The story begins with a tornado that left tragedy and death in its wake in Fort Smith, Arkansas in January 1898. However, it is event…
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Send us a Text Message. Join Jennie and Dianne as they continue their conversation with Lynette Webber, Cousin Jennies: Cornish Women of Mining Country Cemeteries, probing deeper into the surprising connections she unearthed between the graves of Colorado and Michigan during her exploration of Gilpin County's picturesque mountain cemeteries. Lynett…
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Send us a Text Message. This week, buckle up for part one of a riveting tale as Jennie and Dianne team up with Lynette Webber, an expert who has dedicated years to researching the cemeteries and their residents in Michigan's Keweenaw Peninsula. Picture this: a time machine back to the 1800s when tin miners and their kin from Cornwall, Great Britain…
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Send us a Text Message. "I hope the adventures in this book inspire you to explore a cemetery. It’s good for the cemetery—and I promise it will be good for you." This is how Loren Rhoads welcomes readers to indulge in her latest cemetery book, 'Death's Garden Revisited: Personal Relationships with Cemeteries'. Loren, who is the editor, says the boo…
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Send us a Text Message. Get ready for an unforgettable journey into the heart of mystery and romance with Jennie and Dianne in the latest episode of the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery Podcast featuring author Roy Widing and his captivating book "Whispers From The Tomb: A True Love Story Discovered In A Century Old Mausoleum." Join them as they unr…
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Send us a Text Message. Dianne and Jennie are thrilled to continue their conversation with Rachel Meyer from Epoch Preservation. Join them for part 2 of an insightful two-part series delving into the fascinating world of cemetery conservation and preservation. In this episode, they discuss crucial topics like advocating for saving cemeteries, secur…
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Send us a Text Message. Dianne and Jennie are thrilled to welcome Rachel Meyer from Epoch Preservation as this week's special guest. Join them for part 1 of an insightful two-part series delving into the fascinating world of cemetery conservation and preservation. Discover the remarkable journey of Epoch Preservation, a leading gravestone conservat…
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Send us a Text Message. Join Jennie and Dianne on an enlightening journey through history with the author of "The Queen of Denver: Louise Sneed Hill and the Emergence of Modern High Society" Shelby Carr. In this captivating follow-up to Episode 127, Shelby, who is the leading historian on Louise Sneed Hill, joins us to set the record straight and c…
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Send us a Text Message. Join Jennie and Dianne, along with returning guest Avrohom Krauss, as they continue their exploration into the world of Ordinary Extraordinary Jewish cemetery sites. This week, they delve deeper into the topics of desecration and preservation of these sacred spaces, shedding light on the importance of honoring the memory of …
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode of the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery, Jennie and Dianne, along with special guest Avrohom Krauss, an educator, genealogist, and speaker specializing in Jewish resources and cemetery research, delve into the Ordinary Extraordinary Jewish immigrant cemeteries of New York. These cemeteries hold the final resti…
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Send us a Text Message. Jennie and Dianne dive into history with special guest Tim Smith, the Director of Education for the Adams County Historical Society and town historian at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. This week, Tim unfolds captivating tales of the battlefield, revealing how the citizens of Gettysburg coped with the historic battle including the…
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Send us a Text Message. Jennie and Dianne return to Dayton Ohio's Calvary Cemetery, this time to visit the grave of Maurice Breen, an Irish immigrant who spent some of his early years in America helping those who were enslaved to escape to freedom on the Underground Railroad. Maurice Breen was a man who worked hard but always made the best of life.…
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Send us a Text Message. This episode is part one of at least two episodes covering one of Dayton, Ohio's largest green spaces, Calvary Cemetery. Founded in 1872 to accommodate three Catholic parishes that grew out of the German, Irish, Polish, Hungarian, Italian and Lithuanian immigrants who flocked to the area in the mid 1800s, it replaced the ove…
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Send us a Text Message. Love is in the air this week as Jennie and Dianne share the story of a woman who led, shall we say, an alternative life as madam Bessie Rivers, and despite her unconventional path, found love and respect among many in her community and her final resting place has not been forgotten in lovely Greenmount Cemetery in Durango, C…
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Send us a Text Message. Jennie and Dianne relate a gripping yet heart-wrenching chapter of circus history that led to the first burials at Showmen's Rest in Chicago's beautiful Woodlawn Memorial Park. Listen in as they spotlight the Hagenbeck-Wallace circus train wreck of 1918 – a tragic event that claimed over 80 lives and left many injured. In th…
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Send us a Text Message. Jennie and Dianne delve into the remarkable tale of James and Olivia Tate, enslaved in Georgia prior to the American civil war but united by love. This February, they kick off a month-long celebration of love and honor Black History with the Tate's inspiring story at Atlanta's historic Oakland Cemetery. True love knows no bo…
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Send us a Text Message. Join Jennie and Dianne as they unravel the remarkable life of Margaret Ann Harvey Neve in this episode of the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery Podcast! This latest episode delves into the story of the first recorded female supercentenarian, the second person to reach 110 (after Geert Boomgaard), and the first to span three ce…
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Send us a Text Message. Jennie and Dianne ride into the Wild West in this latest podcast episode! 🤠 Together they cover the unique story of Cattle Annie and Little Britches, two adventurous young girls who defied the norms of their time by becoming outlaws in the vast Oklahoma territory of the 1890s. 🌵 Explore their journey, the challenges they fac…
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Send us a Text Message. Jennie and Dianne uncover the remark ble legacy of Irene Lentz – a trailblazing fashion designer turned Hollywood costume innovator during the 1930s and 40s. Delve into the Ord nary Extraordinary story of how she not only took the reins as MGM's chief designer in 1942 but also managed an exclusive fashion line for over 20 de…
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Send us a Text Message. As we bid farewell to 2023, the Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery Podcast team wishes you a Happy New Year! Don't miss this final episode of the year, weaving history, literature, and friendship into an Ordinary Extraordinary story. Jennie and Dianne are joined by author Pamela McColl as they explore the charming friendship be…
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Send us a Text Message. Embark on a heartfelt yuletide journey with Jennie and Dianne as they uncover the remarkable story of James J. Brady at Mt. Olivet Cemetery in Detroit, Michigan. Despite humble beginnings, Brady's life is etched in the unadorned markers beside his wife, a testament to a life lived in simplicity and generosity. From a runaway…
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Send us a Text Message. Join Jennie and Dianne as they unravel a tale of light from darkness in Landsberg am Lech, Germany. From the city's historical significance to the Jüdischer Friedhof, a small Jewish cemetery containing about 600 victims of the Nazi terror that were killed in one of the nearby concentration camps, discover the poignant journe…
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Send us a Text Message. Uncover the rich history of the second oldest rural cemetery in America on "The Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery" podcast! Join Jennie and Dianne alongside Laurel Hill Cemetery's President & CEO Nancy Goldenberg, Arboretum Manager Aaron Greenberg, and Volunteer & Tour Guide Sarah Hamill as they share Ordinary Extraordinary st…
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Send us a Text Message. On this episode of "The Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery" join Jennie as she journeys to the picturesque Toledo Cemetery in Lincoln County, Oregon to discover the history of this charming seven-acre resting place, founded in the 1880s by the generous donation of a local citizen. Uncover tales of early settlers, relocated grav…
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Send us a Text Message. Dive into a remarkable journey through time on the latest episode of "The Ordinary Extraordinary Cemetery" podcast with Jennie and Dianne. This Thanksgiving, we're especially thankful for the wit and humor of Will Rogers. Join us as we celebrate the laughter-filled legacy of this iconic figure, along with the high-flying adv…
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Send us a Text Message. Jennie and Dianne share three captivating stories of headstones found in unusual places and how they were restored to the cemeteries where they belong. They begin with the story of a WWII veteran's headstone discovered in a backyard in St. Petersburg, Florida. Next they journey to Pennsylvania to visit the oldest narrow gaug…
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