Best Kevin Garcia and Sarah Heath Podcasts (2024)

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It’s All Gonna Be Okay (Series Finale) 1:35:36

12M ago1:35:36

1:35:36

Well they say all rotten things must come to an end. In this final episode, I have a laid back conversation with my friend, the Pastor of Pump himself, Danny Prada. We talk about our respective journeys, how we have grown as individuals, how DRCK has impacted our lives, and how we feel as it all comes to a close. From the bottom of my heart, thank …

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What I Wish I Knew About Deconstruction 2:07:34

1y ago2:07:34

2:07:34

On this, second to last DRCK episode, I had the privilege of hanging out with my friend Janice (God Has Not Given! Bad Words! General Menace!) , and new friend Tim (The New Evangelicals!). We discuss the things we would go back and tell ourselves about our personal deconstruction journeys– the good, the bad, the dogmatic. We also discuss platform c…

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Ever Becoming with Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza 1:09:23

1+ y ago1:09:23

1:09:23

This week I had the privilege of chatting with friend of the show and friend of mine, theologian and author Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza (Body Becoming! Activist Theology!). We have a laid back conversation about rest, embodiment, finding the third way and taking time to dream about the world we wish to see. I also go on a mild rant about being funempl…

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Pleasure Practice with Portia Brown 1:14:58

1+ y ago1:14:58

1:14:58

This week I had the privilege of speaking with sex educator and sex empowerment coach Portia Brown (Froetic Sexology!) . We discuss her upbringing in evangelical spaces, the ways she subverted the sex scripts she was handed, and the deliberate pursuit of pleasure practices. TIMESTAMPS: Interview - 5:04 Post Interview - 52:09 Sip, Smoke, Read - 57:3…

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Dirty Rotten Missions Trips with Kevin Garcia and Mason Mennenga 1:42:47

1+ y ago1:42:47

1:42:47

This week we’re talking about missions! My co-hosts for this episode are podcasters, writers, and friends Kevin Garcia (Bad Theology Kills! A Tiny Revolution!) and Mason Mennenga (A People’s Theology! The Black Sheep Podcast!). Together we unpack our experiences with short term mission trips, the ideas and doctrines that informed so many of them, a…

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Proof of Life with Joy Oladokun 1:19:48

1+ y ago1:19:48

1:19:48

This week, I have the absolute privilege of speaking with songwriter, producer, genius Joy Oladokun. We discuss their upbringing in Christian spaces, stepping into truth and the creative journey. We discuss her new album, Proof of Life, the songwriting and creative process, and the art of sifting through faith traditions to find the goodness. We al…

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Professional Christian with Sarah Heath and Justin Gentry 2:02:29

1+ y ago2:02:29

2:02:29

On this episode, I have the privilege of chatting with podcast hosts Sarah Heath and Justin Gentry (REVcovery!). We talk about what it was Iike deconstructing while in full time ministry, the struggles of making significant career changes, and the impostor syndrome that comes along with it. We also discuss what we have found that brings joy on the …

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Finitude, Gratitude, and Presence with Holly Laurent 1:19:59

1+ y ago1:19:59

1:19:59

This week I have the absolute pleasure of chatting with podcaster, writer, and performer Holly Laurent (MEGA The Podcast!). We talk about her upbringing in evangelical spaces, and the faith change that ultimately led to Mega The Podcast. We talk about humor, creativity, walking the fine line of familiar and unfamiliar, and finding the lovely things…

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Power Over Piety with Brad Onishi 1:22:30

1+ y ago1:22:30

1:22:30

For the first episode of the season, I chat with podcaster, author, and academic Brad Onishi (Straight White American Jesus!). We discuss his upbringing as a Japanese American within evangelicalism, the origins of extremist Christian nationalism and what comes next, his new book, and I have a big announcement to make about this season! Learn more a…

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Recentering with Lucy Dacus 1:23:10

2y ago1:23:10

1:23:10

It’s the last DRCK of 2022! What a year it has been. I’m wrapping it all up with singer/musician/producer Lucy Dacus! We talk about her upbringing within a cerebral evangelicalism, VBS, Purity Culture, and unravelling what she was handed. We also talk about her latest full length, this year’s EP, her creative process and ways in how she has found c…

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We Have Each Other with Jon Huertas 1:18:43

2y ago1:18:43

1:18:43

This week I got to chat with actor, director and writer Jon Huertas (This is Us! Castle! Sabrina the Teenage Witch!). We talked about his upbringing within the catholic church, moving out of religious spaces to nontheism, and reasons he let go of the dogma he was handed to instead embrace belief in humanity. We also talk about creativity, the hard …

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Not Even A Hint with Blair @TalkPurityToMe 1:40:50

2y ago1:40:50

1:40:50

This week we’re talking purity! This week’s guest co-host is Blair from TalkPurityToMe–we discuss growing up in house churches, and some of the ways we were taught about purity and modesty, as well as some of the ways we are still feeling the aftermath. We also hear stories from the Bad Apples. Brought to you by Date Me Jesus Timestamps: Date Me Je…

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BONUS PATREON EPISODE: Meet Producer Delbreezy! 1:12:32

2y ago1:12:32

1:12:32

On this off-week I wanted to give you bad apples a sneak peak at the Patreon episodes and introduce my friend and new producer/editor, Joshua Delbridge aka Delbreezy! We talk about his backstory, being queer in evangelical spaces, and how we met. We also sip, smoke and read together. Enjoy! Interview 1:42 Sip, Smoke Read 53:05 Irreverent Media Grou…

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Human Overboard with Rhett McLaughlin 1:23:41

2y ago1:23:41

1:23:41

This week I had the chance to chat with comedian, podcaster, author, director and musician Rhett McLaughlin (Rhett and Link! Good Mythical Morning! James and the Shame!). We talk about his upbringing in church, deconstructing while in the public eye, and creating therapeutic music. He also answers some questions from the bad apples. Brought to you …

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Blab it and Grab it with Tori Williams Douglass 1:55:37

2y ago1:55:37

1:55:37

This week we talk prosperity! My guest cohost is podcaster, speaker, author and friend Tori Williams Douglass (White Homework! Go Home Bible You're Drunk!). Together we unpack the health and wealth gospel. We discuss how we were brought up in that theology, the harm it causes and how we unlearn some of the language on the other side. We also answer…

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Safe, Certain and Secure with Phil Drysdale 1:38:43

2y ago1:38:43

1:38:43

This week I got to chat with podcaster, writer, speaker, researcher and community organizer Phil Drysdale (The Deconstruction Network! The Phil Drysdale Show!). We discuss his upbringing as a church kid in the UK, how his faith changed and the work he has been doing within the deconstruction space. We talk about some of his research findings, commo…

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Time, Talent and Mostly Treasures with Janice Lagata 1:48:54

2y ago1:48:54

1:48:54

Dirty Rotten Church Kids is back and this week I have the pleasure of bringing back podcaster, general menace and friend Janice Lagata (God Has Not Given!) This week we talked about passing the plate--how we were brought up learning about tithing, ways in which church taught us about possessions and how we approached tithing during our faith change…

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Let's Talk About Imposter Syndrome 1:08:01

2+ y ago1:08:01

1:08:01

BE AS INSECURE AS YOU IS BINCH! Follow @RevSarahHeath and look into her stuff at RevSarahHeath.com. Join Sarah's Patreon group REVcovery at Patreon.com/revcovery Follow @theKevinGarcia. And buy Bad Theology Kills at BadTheologyKills.com Join The Crowded Table spiritual social club at TheCrowdedTable.mn.co Learn more about your ad choices. Visit meg…

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Dirty Rotten Live Show Atlanta! 1:35:24

2+ y ago1:35:24

1:35:24

In case you missed it--we had the chance to make an appearance at our friend Kevin Garcia's Crowded Table Event in Atlanta. We recorded the show for those that couldn't make it, and took some time afterwards to recap and sip, smoke, read together. We talk about cancelled flights and driving through the night, discovering Josh is actually an Enneagr…

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March Against Hillsong 1:02:26

2+ y ago1:02:26

1:02:26

Where in we have to break down why homosexuality is not the same thing as abusing children for some GD reason. Follow @RevSarahHeath and look into her stuff at RevSarahHeath.com and listen to RevCovery here. Follow @theKevinGarcia. And buy Bad Theology Kills at BadTheologyKills.com and listen to A Tiny Revolution here Learn more about your ad choic…

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How Connected We Are w/ C Davis 2:02:53

2+ y ago2:02:53

2:02:53

This week we had the pleasure of speaking with C. Davis (Deconstructing Colors!). We discuss her church upbringing, how actually believing the Bible often leads to deconstruction, and how the perceived safety found within cultural Christianity keeps many folks in the pews. We also talk about putting first things first and answer questions from the …

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Nashville Hot 1:04:46

2+ y ago1:04:46

1:04:46

It's fine. It's all fine. Follow @RevSarahHeath and look into her stuff at RevSarahHeath.com. Follow @theKevinGarcia. And buy Bad Theology Kills at BadTheologyKills.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sarah Heath, Kevin Garcia

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The Ides Of Marshalls 56:50

2+ y ago56:50

56:50

The worse it gets, the more Kevin smokes. We need to pray yall. Follow @RevSarahHeath and look into her stuff at RevSarahHeath.com. Follow @theKevinGarcia. And buy Bad Theology Kills at BadTheologyKills.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sarah Heath, Kevin Garcia

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LATE. 1:00:56

2+ y ago1:00:56

1:00:56

Sorry Kevin's ADHD made her forget the pod upload! ENJOY! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sarah Heath, Kevin Garcia

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Whatever It Takes 2:15:23

2+ y ago2:15:23

2:15:23

This week we talk about "culturally relevant" churches, how we were brought up in Hip Christianity ™, the ways people were leveraged to keep the machine running and the ways people were reduced to an attendance statistic. We also take a Texas Anti-Trans bill to Hellcourt, play a game of Improv Sunday School Songs and hear stories from the Bad Apple…

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Don't Say Straight 54:40

2+ y ago54:40

54:40

F*ck you greg abbot. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sarah Heath, Kevin Garcia

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The one about the fear of death 1:03:43

2+ y ago1:03:43

1:03:43

We talk the normal shit, and then we talk about death. And the fear of death, and grief and all that. AND how do we navigate it or deal with shit after faith transition, or post religion all together. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sarah Heath, Kevin Garcia

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All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep w/ Andre Henry 2:57:54

2+ y ago2:57:54

2:57:54

This week we had the pleasure of speaking with singer-songwriter, author, podcaster and activist Andre Henry. We discuss his new book, ‘All The White Friends I Couldn’t Keep’, and moving from racial reconciliation to the work of antiracism and decolonization. We talk about his story leaving white evangelicalism, how the personal is political and ho…

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the one where sarah yells at that guy from skillet 1:04:07

2+ y ago1:04:07

1:04:07

1 2 3 4 I declare a deconstruction war. Stream REVcovery everywhere. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sarah Heath, Kevin Garcia

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Becoming Less 2:40:45

3y ago2:40:45

2:40:45

In this episode we talk about the sins of the Flllleeeshhhh™️! We discuss how we were taught to deny self, distrust instincts and how messages of inadequacy had us decreasing so God could increase. We hear stories from the Bad Apples(CW: self harm and suicidal ideation), take a gross sermon illustration to Hell Court and play a game of Kirk Cameron…

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Sarah was almost the Bachelorette (feat. MATTHIAS ROBERTS!) 1:02:11

3y ago1:02:11

1:02:11

Sort of. Matthias also is here to laugh a shit ton with us. Enjoy the foolery. Follow us! @MatthiasRoberts, @RevSarahHeath and @thekevingarcia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sarah Heath, Kevin Garcia

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Dirty Rotten 2022 1:23:26

3y ago1:23:26

1:23:26

We are back on our bullshit for the first episode of 2022! To stretch out our Podcasting muscles and get back into the groove of things we dig into what we missed since November, play a game of Megachurch Instagram and spend way too much time in Sip, Smoke, Read. Brought to you by #IAmMosesAndYouCanToo Time stamps 10:47 What Did We Miss 37:52 Megac…

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Relient K said GAY RIGHTS! 1:01:34

3y ago1:01:34

1:01:34

The one where Sarah gaslights Kevin over summertime treats (otter pops? wtf?). We also cover Sean Feucht's loss of "book deal", Joe Rogan's misinformation, and Relient. K going on tour with SEMLER! Follow Sarah @RevSarahHeath Follow Kevin @theKevinGarcia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…

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Even if you are not ready for the day... 1:00:44

3y ago1:00:44

1:00:44

it cannot always be night. Follow Kevin & Sarah @thekevinGarcia and @RevSarahHeath Send questions to askYourFavoriteAunts@gmail.com Check out our Podcast network: Irreverent.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sarah Heath, Kevin Garcia

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Merry Crisis! 1:05:15

3y ago1:05:15

1:05:15

What's. the holiday season like for you? We dive into this and a few other things. Love you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sarah Heath, Kevin Garcia

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Community After Deconstructing 1:22:49

3y ago1:22:49

1:22:49

In our Q&O, we talk about what it is to find your people after you've left your former church, after you've deconstructing or when you started deconstructing. Also, HARRY STYLES THRU THE FIRST BRICK AT STONEWALL. Follow @RevSarahHeath and @theKevinGarcia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…

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Two Year Anniversary! 3:40:42

3y ago3:40:42

3:40:42

It's the last episode of the year! This episode has got everything: CCM, multiple Bad Apples Good Questions, taking Chris Pratt to Hell Court, donkey schlongs, a look back at our favorite episode moments and more. See ya in 2022! Brought to you by Thanksgiving poops. Irreverent Media Group www.irreverent.fm DRCK Patreon https://www.patreon.com/dirt…

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Gaslight. Gatekeep. Gospel Coalition. 54:32

3y ago54:32

54:32

Why are they so bad at writing things? Also we talk about the afterlife? If hell's not real, is heaven also not real? And what should one tell their kids? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sarah Heath, Kevin Garcia

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We Need Each Other w/ Tori Williams Douglass 2:29:29

3y ago2:29:29

2:29:29

This week we got to speak with anti-racist educator/podcaster Tori Williams Douglass (White Homework! Go Home Bible, You’re Drunk!). We discuss the simplicity of justice without conditions, raising kids with trust and autonomy, and doing the work of recognizing your triggers so you can do the work of anti racism. We also talk about how christian et…

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All Saints Bae 56:29

3y ago56:29

56:29

We recorded this on friday and now it's Dia De Los Muertos. You do the math. We love you. Join us next Friday Live at 1 PM PT / 4 PM ET on Youtube.com/kevingarciawastaken Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sarah Heath, Kevin Garcia

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Post-Evangelical. Post-Christian. 1:04:52

3y ago1:04:52

1:04:52

Today, Kevin and Sarah dive into a story that the Washington Post covered about a gathering of post-evangelical pastors and lay people. kevin had a lot of thoughts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sarah Heath, Kevin Garcia

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Good Enough w/ Aaron Gillespie 2:04:06

3y ago2:04:06

2:04:06

This week we had to chance to talk to musician, songwriter and producer Aaron Gillespie (Underoath! The Almost!). We talked about nonlinear faith change, Christian creativity, impostor syndrome and mega church culture. We also talk about Halloween aka The Devil’s birthday and play a game/sleepless fever dream of Kirk Cameron Saves Halloween. Skip t…

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How Many You Running? 2:45:05

3y ago2:45:05

2:45:05

This week we're talking about church plants - our experience with start up churches, some of the ideologies that played into the process, and how we feel looking back. We discuss church splits, territoriality and chasing the numbers. And finally we play a round of CCM and hear stories from the Bad Apples. Brought to you by the star of Bethlehem wit…

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Sexual Ethics Post Purity Culture 1:05:04

3y ago1:05:04

1:05:04

FINALLY BACK! you can expect us back in your feed on fridays, live shows on Thursday nights on Youtube! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sarah Heath, Kevin Garcia

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In Relationship with Difference w/ Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza 2:04:31

3y ago2:04:31

2:04:31

This week we had the pleasure of speaking with author/podcaster/scholar/public ethicist Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza (ActivisTheology!). We talk about his embodiment journey, the deconstruction that occurred during seminary, existing in the in-between space and re-contextualizing theology. We also talk about being in relationship with old church friend…

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House with Many Rooms 2:17:27

3y ago2:17:27

2:17:27

This week we’re talking about the Pearly Gates—how we were taught about heaven, how that impacted our sense of empathy and presence, and what happened when we deconstructed it. We discuss some ways salvation was weaponized, play a game of CCM and hear stories from the Bad Apples. Brought to you by Tomato Squeeze and Coldplay. The Scientist - Coldpl…

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The FCA is COMING FOR US! 1:01:45

3y ago1:01:45

1:01:45

Kevin is not an athlete. Follow @theKevinGarcia and @revSarahHeath across social media. Super secret clearance sale on kevin's merch: thekevingarcia.com/secretsale Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sarah Heath, Kevin Garcia

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Do Your Own Work w/ Mike McHargue 2:24:53

3y ago2:24:53

2:24:53

This week we speak with author, speaker and content creator Mike McHargue (The Cozy Robot Show! You Are a Miracle and a Pain in the Ass). We hear about his story from evangelicalism into a combination of science, spirituality and wonder. We discuss the ways white supremacy and patriarchy survives using deniability, the art of deplatforming to cente…

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Leave Lizzo ALONE 57:46

3y ago57:46

57:46

Everything is terrible! Plus advice about talking to your conservative family about their shitty theology. We love you, Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Sarah Heath, Kevin Garcia

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The one about Joshua Harris 1:25:13

3y ago1:25:13

1:25:13

LIVE every week @ 8 ET / 5 PT at YouTube.com/helloimkevn. New Episodes every Friday. Subscribe. We talk about Josh Harris's new ecourse, some reaction to reactions on Pray Away, the bullshit with Hillsong lead pastor's covering up for abuse, and answer your questions. come delight with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoi…

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