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Heart of the Story

Nadine Kenney Johnstone

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Author and holistic writing coach Nadine Kenney Johnstone shares interviews with today's top women writers about how to navigate life when things don't go according to plan. Guests include Maggie Smith, Abigail Thomas, Dr. Hillary McBride, Emily P. Freeman, Laura Tremaine, Francesca Royster, Susan Piver, Jane Friedman, Mae Yoshikawa, and more. Nadine also shares her own stories of healing, hope, and following her heart.
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Side by Side

University of Minnesota Extension

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Merriam-Webster’s dictionary defines “side by side” as the state “of existing beside one another” and “of being in the same place, time, or circumstance." What does it mean for rural and urban communities to live side by side? Join University of Minnesota Extension staff as we explore the interdependent relationship of rural and urban spaces and why this necessary and complex relationship matters.
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ In the final episode of Side by Side's first season, Ellen talks with photographer John Noltner, founder of ‘A Peace of My Mind,’ a storytelling project that captures personal stories and portraits to foster dialogue across divides. John discusses the huma…
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173 Have you ever encountered a person who changed the course of your life forever? Such was the case when Nadine took Patty McNair's creative writing MFA class 19 years ago. In this episode, the two discuss why Patty's teaching style is so effective, Patty's path to becoming a writer, and the single most impactful component of a creative writing l…
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In this episode, Ellen welcomes colleague Brigid Tuck, an economist at the University of Minnesota Extension, who sheds light on a 2011 study demonstrating economic interdependence between rural and urban areas in Minnesota. Conducted in collaboration with Minnesota Rural Partners, the study highlights how economic changes in either region can sign…
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172 What do we do when the future we thought we’d have gets wiped clean, and we're stuck in uncertainty? Bestselling author Maggie Smith joins us to talk about life in the in-between and how, even when we’re at a loss, we can still trust ourselves. She also explores the writerly decisions she made in her most recent bestseller (and one of Nadine’s …
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In this week's episode, Ellen talks with Tony Pipa senior fellow at the Brookings Institution about the significance of rural policy and its outdated approaches. Tony discusses the essential role rural areas play in providing energy, food, and manufacturing for urban centers, emphasizing the need for a cohesive national rural strategy. Tony also hi…
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171 Nadine kicks off a new season by announcing the big projects she's been working on behind the scenes. She also shares an in-depth recap of her recent women's writing retreat in CA. In this conversation with retreat participant and podcast producer, Michelle Redo, Nadine shares top tips for hosting intentional gatherings that foster deep connect…
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In this episode, Ellen talks with Brian Dabson, a rural policy researcher, and one of the few analysts exploring rural-urban interdependence in the United States. Brian explains the significance of rural-urban interdependence as being essential for economic and social development. He shares the limitations of current definitions for rural and urban…
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In this episode, Ellen talks with Nadine Bill, Executive Director of Red Lake Nation College's new site in downtown Minneapolis. Nadine shares the college's history, its commitment to language and cultural preservation, and the new Minneapolis site's objectives to expand education access to urban Indigenous communities. Nadine talks about Red Lake …
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In this episode, Ellen connects with Jane Leonard, former president of Growth & Justice. Jane has worked across various sectors in Minnesota since 1979, including journalism, rural and economic development, and technology advancement. Jane shares her experiences from her early days as a journalist in a small town to leading statewide initiatives fo…
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In this episode, artist and rapper Che "Rhymfest" Smith discusses his experiences growing up in Chicago and his transformative experiences in Cody, Wyoming. He reflects on how art can foster cultural communion and play a key role in bridging differences. Che talks about the importance of service and justice and shares how his organization, Art of C…
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In this episode, Ellen talks with Julie Tesch from the Center for Rural Policy and Development and Jake Loesch from Citizens League. Julie and Jake discuss their "Interconnected" conversation series, which explores shared challenges between rural and urban communities and opportunities for designing effective statewide systems. Since 2020, the Inte…
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172 In this profound encore episode, yoga and meditation instructor, Mae Yoshikawa, talks about how to hold on when you're faced with devastating circumstances. If you feel adrift and in deep pain, this hopeful conversation is for you. About Nadine: Learn more about Nadine's Writer Workout community. Nadine Kenney Johnstone is a holistic writing co…
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R. T. Rybak and Tuleah Palmer lead the most urban and rural Minnesota foundations. They both wrote editorials in the Star Tribune in 2023 about the importance of rural-urban interdependence in Minnesota. In this conversation, Ellen Wolter moderates a discussion between Tuleah and R.T. about the intricate interdependence between rural and urban Minn…
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171 In this encore episode, writing guru Jane Friedman answers all your burning questions about the business of being a writer (which also happens to be the title of her latest book). Covered in this episode: -How the pandemic changed the publishing industry (for the better) -How to have an honest outlook about getting published and still have hope…
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In this episode, Ellen interviews Nick Jacobs, co-author of "The Rural Voter," about the nuances of rural America and how they are often overlooked when we consider the complex relationship between rural and urban spaces. They discuss the methodology behind Nick’s research and the challenges of surveying rural populations. They also delve into "rur…
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169 While Nadine is on a short break, we revisit this fan-favorite episode with the Millennial Minimalists, who show you how to declutter your life while also prioritizing self compassion. About Nadine: Learn more about Nadine's Writer Workout community. Nadine Kenney Johnstone is a holistic writing coach who helps women develop and publish their s…
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In our first episode, former U.S. Senator Heidi Heitkamp, now Director of University of Chicago’s Institute of Politics (IOP), discusses the vital connections between rural and urban America. She shares her experiences growing up in a small town and explains the goals behind IOPs recent Bridging the Divide conference to bring rural and urban Americ…
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168 In this encore episode, writer and astrologist Heidi Rose Robbins explains why understanding our astrological charts helps give clarity to our next steps. As she says "When we know who we are, we know what to do." Heidi shocks Nadine with her spot-on reading of Nadine's chart. Heidi also gives easy tips for understanding our sun, moon, and risi…
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Side-by-Side definition: 1. beside one another 2. in the same place, time, or circumstance. What does it mean for rural and urban communities to live side by side? Rural sociologists have described urban and rural fates as being shared. Yet, we too often focus on rural and urban spaces as separate and divided entities. The rural-urban conversation …
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167 Our strengths are our superpowers IF we know what they are and how best to use them. In this fascinating talk with strengths coach Krystal Clark, you’ll learn how to uncover your unique gifts and harness them for personal and professional growth. Krystal is a powerhouse who will leave you feeling empowered and inspired. Covered in this episode:…
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166 What if we talked about how things were really going? What if we skipped the highlight reel and discussed the real reel? In this conversation, Nadine chats with her producer, Michelle Redo, about relocation hiccups, professional loneliness, writing fears, and midlife angst. About Michelle: Michelle Redo is a podcaster, independent audio produce…
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165 We want to protect our children but we can sense that our over protection is doing more damage than good. In this eye-opening conversation, parenting expert Emily Edlynn explains why controlling parenting is taking its toll on our kids, and how to make small changes that can make a big difference. This hopeful conversation will help you compass…
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164 Nadine shares all the details from her recent trip abroad--the highs, the lows, and the unexpected takeaways. Hear which experiences had the biggest impact on her and what new perspectives she's hoping to incorporate into daily life back home. Covered in the episode: The parts of herself she rediscovered while away The travel hiccups that made …
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163 Nadine chats with literary legend Abigail Thomas about the interesting turns her life has taken, how she accesses hard stories, and her unique approach to structure. In this vulnerable interview, Abby shares painful moments and how she's come to embrace acceptance. In this conversation that covers an array of heartfelt topics, Abby also shares …
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162 In part 1 of this this travel diary episode, Nadine shares all the details about her big trip plans. Learn when and where Nadine is going, as well as the 7 reasons why traveling is so beneficial for women. About Nadine: Sign up for the Writing Hard Stories masterclass on July 9 with Melanie Brooks and Nadine here. Sign up for her newsletter her…
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161 Nadine will be traveling and on a break for a few weeks. Now's the time to catch up on any episodes you've missed and to sign up for Nadine's newsletter so you'll be the first to hear about all of her adventures. Also, if you'd like to get on the waitlist for her upcoming workshops and retreats, you can do so here. About Nadine: Download Nadine…
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160 Beach days and BBQs, farmers markets and drive in movies--these idyllic visions of summertime can inspire us but also set up unrealistic expectations. If your summertime reality usually looks like bored kids and an anything-but-restful break, this episode is for you. Nadine shares 6 steps for approaching summer with intention so that you can ex…
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159 What does real self care actually look like? What are the practices that truly bring us peace? Nadine shares the books and principles that have made a lasting difference in her life. She also shares the delightful details of her recent trip to Nashville as well as the unexpected events that put her inner-peace practices to the test. About Nadin…
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158 If you've ever felt alone in your suffering and uncertainty, this episode is for you. Bestselling author Sara Avant Stover shares her own story of serial heartbreaks and the steps she took towards repair. Through IFS (Internal Family Systems) therapy, Sara discovered how to acknowledge, understand, and heal her parts. Covered in this episode: T…
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157 So many of us yearn to stay in a home, job, or relationship "forever," and there can be deep shame when we don't. And yet, we all know that in order to grow, change is necessary. To be human is to realize that permanence is a myth. So why do we still buy into the forever fallacy? And what do we do when the myth is busted? Nadine explores these …
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156 How to we go on in the wake of deep loss? How do we overcome the fear of our own mortality? In this deeply vulnerable episode, Nadine shares a personal essay that is an excerpt from her book, Come Home to Your Heart, and was recently featured in Good Grit Magazine. She also discusses the life event that prompted her to write the essay, and what…
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155 As a champion of women writers and entrepreneurs, communications expert Heather Adams has helped launch over 100 NYTimes Bestsellers. Her special sauce is in helping women discern and embrace their unique offerings. If you want to share your story or biz with the world, but you're overwhelmed, self critical, or unclear, this episode is for you.…
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154 So many of us want to live more intentionally, but our rote habits are only producing the same inauthentic results. Today's episode is a nudge to mix things up by making small and big changes to experience different outcomes and to live in more alignment. Nadine shares what recently inspired her to make some changes, what she has been doing dif…
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153 Many of us have carried at least one hard story for years, suffering under the weight of secrecy and silence. But what if you didn't have to carry it anymore? What if writing or telling it could not only free you, but deepen your relationships with your loved ones? Melanie Brooks--author of Writing Hard Stories and A Hard Silence--is here to he…
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152 At some point, each of us must decide whether to stay in or leave a space (a job, friendship, community, home, relationship, etc.) While no one else can choose for us, there are key questions that help us decide from an aligned space. That's why Emily P Freeman's newest book, How to Walk into a Room (which immediately landed on the bestseller l…
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151 While Nadine usually hosts Heart of the Story, this week she got to be a guest on one of her favorite podcasts for female entrepreneurs: The Branding Business School Podcast. Here's the description from the TBBS podcast page: This enlightening conversation with the extraordinary Nadine Kenney Johnstone, takes you on a journey through her life's…
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150 Want to see your words in print but don't know where to begin? Or maybe the rejections are racking up and you don't know why. The world of publishing can feel illusive at best and cutthroat at worst, but once you know the unspoken rules, you can get published in no time. Learn how Nadine has gotten her writing in top mags and how she's helped h…
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149 There's so much you want to do but you don't have enough hours in the day, and every time you try to develop a habit, it goes to the wayside after a week. If this is you, Nadine offers great tips for looking at habits differently and doing what you love without over-extending yourself or waking up at the crack of dawn. If you'd like a fresh per…
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148 Whether you've left behind a job, a city, a relationship, or an entire identity, it's not so easy to move forward if you don't know what's ahead. So what do we do when we've left one shore but we're swimming blindly towards an uncertain future? Nadine shares the life-changing advice she received when navigating her own murky middle. Covered in …
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147 So many of us slip into unwanted habits and patterns without even realizing it. Or, once we acknowledge we want to change, we spend a lot of time thinking about doing something different but don't take action. In this episode, writer Maria Warner talks about how to successfully interrupt our patterns. She also discusses her sobriety journey and…
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146 Often times the deep void we feel is the one of missing ourselves, which is why solo time is a necessity, not a luxury. Craving solo time doesn’t mean you don’t still love your people. Instead, it’s a realization that YOU are part of “your people,” and that self-attention is crucial. Nadine shares all the benefits of solo time, as well as how t…
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We start back up Feb 11 with a star-studded line up and deeply intimate heart-to-hearts! You won’t want to miss it. Now’s your chance to catch up on any past episodes you missed before we dive into our next season! About Nadine: Her new book, Come Home to Your Heart, is available on Bookshop, Barnes & Noble, and Amazon. Award-winning author Nadine …
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About Nadine: Her new book, Come Home to Your Heart, is available on Bookshop, Barnes & Noble, and Amazon. Award-winning author Nadine Kenney Johnstone is a holistic writing coach who helps women develop and publish their stories. Her articles and interviews have appeared in Cosmo, Authority, MindBodyGreen, HERE, Urban Wellness, Natural Awakenings,…
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143 An encore episode featuring Nadine’s favorite exercises for reflecting on the year that was and being intentional about the year to come. nadinekenneyjohnstone.com About Nadine: Her new book, Come Home to Your Heart, is available on Bookshop, Barnes & Noble, and Amazon. Award-winning author Nadine Kenney Johnstone is a holistic writing coach wh…
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142 Want to journal, write, or publish in 2024? Nadine explains her exciting new offerings. nadinekenneyjohnstone.com About Nadine: Her new book, Come Home to Your Heart, is available on Bookshop, Barnes & Noble, and Amazon. Award-winning author Nadine Kenney Johnstone is a holistic writing coach who helps women develop and publish their stories. H…
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Ep 141: What were Nadine's favorite conversations and solo episodes of 2023? Get all the behind the scenes info about what episodes made the list and why. About Nadine: Learn more about Nadine's 2024 classes here. Her new book, Come Home to Your Heart, is available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and Bookshop. Nadine Kenney Johnstone is a holistic writi…
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Ep 140: What were Nadine's favorite conversations and solo episodes of 2023? Get all the behind the scenes info about what episodes made the list and why. About Nadine: Learn more about Nadine's 2024 classes here. Her new book, Come Home to Your Heart, is available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and Bookshop. Nadine Kenney Johnstone is a holistic writi…
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139 Check out Nadine's guest appearance on the Millennial Minimalists podcast where she talks about her big life decluttering in 2021: selling her house and pairing down on most of her things to go on the road for 3 months with her family (3 people, 2 dogs, and a beta fish in a 27 foot camper, what could go wrong?!) About Nadine: Learn more about N…
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138 Ever wonder what life is like behind the scenes as a writer and biz owner? In this candid episode, Nadine shares the highs and lows & successes and failures of being a creative and CEO. About Nadine: Learn more about Nadine's Publish the Personal class here. Her new book, Come Home to Your Heart, is available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and Book…
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137 Need a little soul medicine in the midst of hardship? Nadine shares her current favorite podcasts, newsletters, books, etc that offer little doses of healing and hope. About Nadine: Her new book, Come Home to Your Heart, is available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and Bookshop. Nadine Kenney Johnstone is a holistic writing coach who helps women dev…
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