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Principled

By Matt Hall and Naomi Ward

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Welcome to Season Three of Principled, from MSB. This season offers international school leaders a provocation to think differently about the future of education and their role in the creation of this future. It is an opportunity to continue thinking seriously and deeply about the legacy that school leaders leave behind through concerted action in the present. To frame this provocation, we will be bringing together the latest research and thinking about futures-focused leadership, alongside ...
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Dreaming in Color

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The equitable future we seek requires celebrating the genius of today’s leaders of color. In Dreaming in Color, hear from champions in the charge for equity and justice. Hosted by Darren Isom, a partner in the The Bridgespan Group’s San Francisco office, this podcast offers leaders of color space to share how they have leveraged their unique assets and abilities to embrace excellence, drive impact, and more fully define what success looks like. Grounded in both his New Orleans roots and his ...
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For our introduction to season 3, we’re delighted to be joined by Patrick Alexander from Oxford Brookes University. Over the summer we’ve been working with Patrick to research and create a new collaborative paper, Futures-Focused Leadership for International Schools. We intend this to be a provocation to leaders, to think differently about the futu…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. Today we welcome Mia Birdsong, a pathfinder, writer, and facilitat…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, we sit down with Naomi Ostwald Kawamura, the Exec…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode of Dreaming In Color, guest host Angela Maldonado,…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, we welcome Jamie Allison, Executive Director of t…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, our guest host, Jasmine Reliford, a Manager at Br…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, we welcome Frankie Miranda, the first openly gay …
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, Nithin Iyengar, Partner at Bridgespan and head of…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, we welcome Erika Alexander, an actress known for …
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 Y'all, I'm back! Welcome to Dreaming in Color, where we sit down with social change leaders of color to learn how their unique life experiences have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. I'm your host, Darren Isom, and this season I'm lucky to have a few of my Bridgespan colleagues dropping in to join me as guest hosts. Join us f…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Christian Celeste Tate and Anum Qadir from The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, Christian interviews Robert Rooks,…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Christian Celeste Tate and Anum Qadir from The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, Anum sits down with Rebecca Dixon,…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Christian Celeste Tate and Anum Qadir from The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, we speak with Brea Baker, a Freedo…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Christian Celeste Tate and Anum Qadir from The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, we sit down with Arlan Hamilton, a…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Christian Celeste Tate and Anum Qadir from The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, we welcome Michael Tubbs, who at t…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color: Next Gen, a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. Join in on these candid, kitchen table conversations, where together, we can make a difference. We celebrate these leaders ingenuity, are…
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by Dee Lanier, Lead Learning Designer at Lanier Learning and Education Coach for Samsung Education. Award winning TEDX speaker and author of Demarginalising Design, Dee Lanier is dedicated to co-designing equitable learning experiences for…
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by Nicholas Janni, renowned speaker, coach, and co-founder / programme director at Matrix Development. Nicholas is also the author of Business Book of the Year 2023 Leader as Healer, a new paradigm for 21st Century leadership - an unflinch…
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by Shane Leaning, international school leadership and organisational development coach, and creator and host of the Global Ed Leaders podcast for leaders shaping education on a global scale. They discuss cultural differences in communicati…
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by Ryan Persaud, school leader at VERSO International School, a “school of the future” in Thailand. They discuss overcoming barriers and leading with courage, authenticity, and purpose; the importance of returning to the vision; and the po…
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Gill Kelly and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by Candice Smith, meeting & workshop facilitator, coach, and founder of The Thinking Field, through which she helps leaders to “create cultures of collaboration, inclusion, belonging and innovation.” They discuss the responsibility we hav…
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Gill Kelly and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by Stuart Reid, founder and Executive Leadership Team Coach at Stuart Reid Consulting, through which he helps senior leaders overcome the challenges of their position. They discuss the importance of fun and laughter in creating organisati…
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by Matthew Savage, speaker, trainer, coach, and founder of The Mona Lisa Effect®, through which Matthew explores the intersection between wellbeing and DEIJ in schools all around the world. In part 2 of their two-part series, they discuss …
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by Matthew Savage, speaker, trainer, coach, and founder of The Mona Lisa Effect®, through which Matthew explores the intersection between wellbeing and DEIJ in schools all around the world. In part 1 of a fascinating and value-packed conve…
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by experienced educator and Headmistress of St. Mary’s School in Cambridge, Charlotte Avery, as well as friends and colleagues Kate Latham, Director of Teaching and Learning, and Amina. They discuss the ideals at the heart of Mary Ward sch…
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by author, consultant, and founder of Coachtech Collective, Sam Isaacson. They discuss the crucial attributes great leaders have and how these impact the organisations they lead, the importance of emotional intelligence and embracing our v…
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by high-school educator, career counsellor, and co-founder of Kokoro Careers, Kyra Kellawan. They discuss the importance of embracing uniqueness and individuality in all students and why we need to recognise generational changes in both ed…
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Principled is back! Welcome to Season 2 of the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better introduce their mission statement for an exciting second season. This time, we're exploring organisational health. What does it mean to create healthy systems? And how can we overcome the challenges currently faced by …
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better are joined by renowned poet and theologian, Pádraig Ó Tuama. They're kicking off their exploration of systemic and organisational health from the perspective of a poet, discussing poetry as an unpredictable language event; the important secondary pur…
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall, Naomi Ward and Gill Kelly of Making Stuff Better sit down to look back on a successful first season of Principled. They reflect on various lightbulb moments, including why belonging is not always a positive thing; the power of story, ritual and language; and why active listening is so i…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, we journey down to New Orleans during Essence Fes…
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better talk to Owen Eastwood, performance coach and author of the Belonging: The Ancient Code Of Togetherness. They discuss various topics based around the theme of belonging, including: the impact belonging has on our hormones, the link between resilience …
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better revisit a popular episode from Season 1 of Principled. Episode 2 featured Mel Ellis, Head of the Dulwich College Senior School in Singapore. They discuss various topics based around the theme of belonging, including: why a sense of belonging is seen …
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better talk to Aisha Thomas, Founder & Director of Representation Matters, who has dedicated her career to transforming the lack of racial diversity in education. They discuss how creating belonging starts with the self; why the question "do I belong?" will…
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Gill Kelly of Making Stuff Better revisit a popular episode from Season 1 of Principled. Episode 6 featured author Doug Lemov, chatting about various concepts arising from his book and online community, Teach Like A Champion. Doug's analytical approach to effective teaching made a la…
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Naomi Ward of Making Stuff Better talk to Brett Girven, Principal at The Arbor School, about their innovative approach to breaking free from the confines of traditional learning. They discuss how a collaborative relationship with teaching and nature can foster belonging in children; …
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. Takema Robinson is a mother, entrepreneur, social justice strategi…
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In this episode of the Principled podcast, Matt Hall and Gill Kelly of Making Stuff Better talk to d'Arcy Lunn about the essence of global belonging. They discuss why d'Arcy draws so much inspiration, energy, and optimism from young people; how a sense of global citizenship can foster belonging; and how teaspoons of change can transform our world a…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, we welcome Bridgit Antoinette Evans, a decorated …
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, we sit down with Javier Torres, an anti-racist ph…
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In this episode, Matt Hall and Gill Kelly of Making Stuff Better have a discussion between themselves about certain aspects of belonging. They discuss various topics, including: why a sense of belonging isn't necessarily born out of a fear of loneliness; how it can be beneficial to know yourself before joining a tribe; and Matt shares a wonderful p…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, we speak with Sharif El-Mekki, the Founder and Ch…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, we welcome Kalia Abiade, vice president of progra…
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In this episode, Matt Hall and Gill Kelly of Making Stuff Better talk to Julie Rees about belonging within the curriculum. They discuss various topics based on the theme of belonging, including: - How to welcome new and transferring students quickly and effectively by allowing them their own space - Why making students feel safe enough to express t…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, we welcome María Teresa Kumar, an Emmy-nominated …
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, we welcome Mary Annaïse Heglar, a Writer and Clim…
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Gill Kelly of Making Stuff Better talk to author Michael Cahill from Coaching Constellations about how to best manage the exit process. They discuss various topics based around the theme of belonging, including: why managing endings is crucial, not just to those directly involved, bu…
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Welcome to Dreaming in Color, a show hosted by Darren Isom, a partner with The Bridgespan Group, that provides a space for social change leaders of color to reflect on how their life experiences, personal and professional, have prepared them to lead and drive the impact we all seek. In this episode, we welcome Simran Jeet Singh, a scholar, author, …
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Welcome to the Principled podcast. In this episode, Matt Hall and Gill Kelly of Making Stuff Better talk to author Doug Lemov about various concepts arising from his book and online community, Teach Like A Champion. They discuss various topics based around the theme of belonging, including: how the rise of smartphones and social media has led to an…
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