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What China Wants is a weekly podcast that shines a light on China and its growing influence around the world. Hosted by Sam Olsen and Stewart Paterson.
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Special Ep. - Fighting subsidies with subsidies
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After a long dormant period, industrial policy is back and dramatically reshaping global manufacturing. As large-scale subsidies proliferate, countries that used to take a laissez-faire approach to market governance have entered a race to subsidize strategic sectors. Companies are responding. Tune in here for an experimental 'podcast' on Kieran Tho…
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Special Ep. - Europe’s right turn: A threat to trade?
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In this special edition of Current Accounts, the Hinrich Foundation’s podcast on global trade, the US Association of Foreign Press Correspondents sits down with Keith Rockwell, Senior Research Fellow at the Hinrich Foundation, to discuss the future of Europe’s trade dynamics in light of its shifting political landscape. While the recent elections i…
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Special Ep. - What’s at stake if the WTO fails its global e-commerce deal?
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In this special edition of Current Accounts, the Hinrich Foundation’s podcast on global trade, the US Association of Foreign Press Correspondents interviews Deborah Elms on the WTO’s landmark e-commerce agreement. In July, The Joint Statement Initiative (JSI) on Electronic Commerce achieved a historic milestone in global trade, as 82 World Trade Or…
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Special Ep. - How oil is adding fuel to global fragmentation
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In this special edition of Current Accounts, the Hinrich Foundation’s podcast on global trade, Patrícia Vasconcellos from the US Association of Foreign Press Correspondents and Robert York, Director of Regional Affairs at the think tank Pacific Forum, delve into how shifting oil trade dynamics are fueling global fragmentation. Following Russia’s in…
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Special Ep. - Unilateral green rules and voluntary standards
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In this special edition of Current Accounts, the Hinrich Foundation’s podcast on global trade, Patrícia Vasconcellos from the US Association of Foreign Press Correspondents interviews Hinrich Foundation Research Grant recipient Rodrigo Fagundes Cezar about the impact of unilateral green rules and voluntary standards on Brazil’s green transition. Am…
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Special Ep. - The impact of trade in this US presidential election year
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In this special edition of Current Accounts, the Hinrich Foundation’s podcast on global trade, Patrícia Vasconcellos from the US Association of Foreign Press Correspondents talks to Inu Manak, fellow for Trade Policy at the Council for Foreign Relations, discussing the role of US trade policy in current presidential election year. Trade exerts a pr…
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Special Ep. - A trade talk with Keith Rockwell
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In this special edition of Current Accounts, the Hinrich Foundation’s podcast on global trade, Patrícia Vasconcellos from the US Association of Foreign Press Correspondents and Keith Rockwell, former WTO director and senior research fellow at the Hinrich Foundation delve into the evolving global trade patterns. There is a notable shift in global tr…
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Special Ep. - Why the WTO can't find a path to consensus
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In this special edition of Current Accounts, the Hinrich Foundation’s podcast on global trade, Alan Herrera of the Association of Foreign Press Correspondents in the United States (AFPC-USA) and Hinrich Foundation Head of Trade Policy Deborah Elms explore the complexities of decision-making within the World Trade Organization (WTO) as the 13th Mini…
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Special Ep. - The semiconductor trade wars
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The semiconductor is at the forefront of the convergence of global trade and geopolitics. McKinsey projects the industry will reach a trillion dollars by 2030, up from US$574 billion last year according to the Semiconductor Industry Association. The industry, however, is increasingly at the mercy of the most intense geopolitical contest in the worl…
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Special Ep. - Decarbonizing the global steel industry
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In this special edition of Current Accounts, the Hinrich Foundation’s podcast on global trade, guest host Nii Akrofi Smart-Abbey from the Association of Foreign Press Correspondents in the United States (AFPC-USA) and Executive Director of Asia Trade Center Deborah Elms, discuss how lack of standardization is proving to be a challenge in decarboniz…
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Special Ep. - Is globalization under threat?
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In this special edition of Current Accounts, the Hinrich Foundation’s podcast on global trade, guest host Nii Akrofi Smart-Abbey from the Association of Foreign Press Correspondents in the United States (AFPC-USA) talks to Hinrich Foundation Research Fellow Stewart Paterson, delving into a discussion centered around the question of whether globaliz…
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Ep 5. - Trade digitization is everything, everywhere. Why?
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In this fifth edition of Current Accounts, the Hinrich Foundation's podcast on global trade, Hinrich Foundation Research Fellow Stewart Paterson speaks with former New Zealand trade negotiator Stephanie Honey on the seeming ubiquity of trade digitization and the resistance in parts of the global trade supply chain to digital facilitation. In the la…
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Special Ep. - Assessing US Objectives for APEC 2023
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In this special edition of Current Accounts, the Hinrich Foundation’s global trade podcast, guest host former US Representative Charles Boustany leads a discussion on the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) forum 2023 with former US Deputy Trade Representative Robert Holleyman and Shihoko Goto of the Wilson Center. The episode was first featur…
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Ep. 4 - Inside the US and China’s disintegrating relationship
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In this fourth edition of Current Accounts, the Hinrich Foundation's podcast on global trade, Research Fellow Stewart Paterson speaks with Naoise McDonagh, Senior Lecturer in the School of Business and Law at Australia’s Edith Cowan University, on the national security calculus driving decoupling and the crucial role of legal contestability of such…
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Ep. 3 - How China’s state-led economy uses world markets
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In this third edition of Current Accounts, the Hinrich Foundation's podcast on global trade, our Research Fellow Stewart Paterson speaks with Emily de la Bruyère, co-founder of Horizon Advisory and a Senior Fellow at the Foundation for the Defence of Democracy, on China’s growing global export prowess, its leverage on world markets, and trade depen…
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Episode 42: China's Global Media Offensive
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This week on What China Wants, Sam and Stewart are joined by Josh Kurlantzick, Senior Fellow for Southeast Asia at the Council on Foreign Relations, to discuss Beijing's media influence. Josh sets out his analysis of China’s attempt in recent years to become a global media and information superpower, and we discuss whether these efforts are working…
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Ep. 2 - China, the US, and a quarrel with globalization
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In this second edition of Current Accounts, the Hinrich Foundation's podcast on global trade, our Research Fellow Stewart Paterson speaks with Jeff Ferry, chief economist at the Coalition for a Prosperous America, on how globalization has evolved from a worldwide success for multinational corporations to a dilemma for the American economy, blamed f…
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Episode 41: The Advent of President Xi's Third Term
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In recent weeks, the "two sessions" have taken place in China, at which President Xi's third term was confirmed by the nearly 3,000 delegates that constitute the National People's Congress. Due to the relative opaqueness of decision-making in Chinese politics, these important events in the political calendar are relatively unknown outside China. To…
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Episode 40: The Outlook for China’s Economy
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This week on What China Wants, co-host Stewart Paterson is interviewed by Sam Olsen about the outlook for the Chinese economy. We discuss the post-covid outlook as well as the key challenges facing the economy and the Party leadership looking forward.By Sam Olsen, Stewart Paterson
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Episode 39: What Should We Make of Human Rights in China?
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In this episode of What China Wants, Sam and Stewart discuss the issue of human rights in China. To do so, they are joined by Benedict Rogers, Co-Founder of Hong Kong Watch and one of Britain’s foremost and most knowledgeable campaigners on the subject. We discuss some of the key issues raised in his book, The China Nexus, including allegations of …
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Episode 38: Cellular IoT Modules and Supply Chain Security
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This week, Sam and Stewart are joined by Charles Parton OBE, a former diplomat who is presently a specialist adviser to the Foreign Affairs Committee at the UK Houses of Parliament and Associate Fellow of RUSI. Charlie spent 22 years of his 37 year diplomatic career working in or on China, Hong Kong and Taiwan. In this episode he discusses his late…
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Episode 37: China's Structural Influence in Southeast Asia
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This week on What China Wants, Dr William Matthews, Director of Research at the Evenstar Institute, joins Sam and Stewart to discuss their latest research, "Southeast Asia's Emerging Geopolitical Order: China's Structural Influence and the Evolving Regional Balance of Power". The report quantifies and explains the evolution of China's Influence in …
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Ep. 1 - Salt and horses: Brexit and British prices
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In this first edition of Current Accounts, the Hinrich Foundation's newly launched trade podcast, our Research Fellow Stewart Paterson speaks with Jan David Bakker, of Bocconi University, on the rise of non-tariff barriers to trade, their impact on economic welfare, and the nature of data analysis on traded goods from horses to salt. As the United …
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Episode 36: Small is Beautiful - China's Approach to Overseas Development Finance
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This week on What China Wants Sam and Stewart are joined by Rebecca Ray, Senior Academic Researcher at the Boston University Global Development Policy (GDP) Center to discuss their latest research. The GDP Centre has just published an update to their China Overseas Development Finance (CODF) Database. Having provided a staggering amount of finance …
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Episode 35: The Russia-China Relationship - Friendship Without Limits?
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On this week's episode, Sam and Stewart are joined by Sarah Kirchberger, Head of Asia-Pacific Strategy and Security at the Institute for Security Policy at Kiel University, and one of Germany’s and Europe’s leading experts on the Moscow-Beijing relationship. Sarah is also one of the editors of the 2022 paper Russia-China Relations: Emerging Allianc…
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Join us as we get ready to say 新年快乐! (Happy New Year!) and welcome in the Year of the Rabbit, as Chinese New Year falls this coming Sunday, 22nd January. Despite it being perhaps the largest ceremony or festival in the world, it is really not very well known in the West, nor are its fascinating intricacies, practices and folklore. Sam and Stewart a…
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Episode 33: China and the World - A Review of 2022 and a Look Forward to 2023
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This week on What China Wants, Sam and Stewart review the past year. They discuss the key political and economic events for China in 2022, as well as debate the outlook ahead of us, looking forward into what 2023 might hold for China and the world.By Sam Olsen, Stewart Paterson
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Episode 32: The Culture and Passion of Chinese Food
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Happy New Year, and welcome back to What China Wants. In today's episode we look at what is probably the first aspect of Chinese culture that most people around the world encounter: its food. To do so, we are delighted to be joined by Michelin-starred chef, anthropologist, and cultural observer Andrew Wong of the eponymous restaurant in London. Chi…
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Episode 31: How is Christmas Celebrated in China?
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This week on What China Wants we are joined by a returning friend of the show, Andrew Methven of the Substack newsletter Slow Chinese, to discuss Christmas in China on this festive special. Andrew explains the main differences as well as some surprising similarities between how the festivities are celebrated in China compared to the West.…
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Episode 30: Will a Western "NATO for Tech" Work?
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In this week's episode, Stewart and Sam are talking to one of the leading thinkers on technology, Rob Atkinson, Founder and President of the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation (ITIF). Rob joins us to discuss the realties of a "NATO for tech", which British Prime Minister Rishi Sunk has recently called for as a means to counter Chinese…
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This week we are pleased to announce we have launched The Evenstar Institute, a non-partisan, not-for-profit think tank focused on measuring and understanding the evolving nature of national influence in the twenty first century. Sam and Stewart are joined by our Director of Research, Dr William Matthews, to discuss our latest paper, An Overlooked …
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Episode 28: Is the Current Monetary Cycle Accelerating Bifurcation between China and the West?
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Stewart and Sam are joined this week by Meyrick Chapman, a 40 year veteran of macro-investing and formerly of Elliott Management. We discuss Meyrick’s research of monetary policy which has shown up an interesting and potentially vital impact on China’s relationship with the world.By Sam Olsen, Stewart Paterson
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Episode 27: The Great China-Australia Trade Spat
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We have discussed the possibilities of economic sanctions between China and the West before on this podcast, but this week we unpick a particular example. Stewart and Sam are joined by Dr. Naoise McDonagh, a specialist from the University of Adelaide to discuss the Australian experience of China's economic sanctions, imposed since 2020. We discuss …
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This week on What China Wants, Sam and Stewart are joined by Chris Miller, author of Chip War: The Fight for the World's Most Critical Technology, which was shortlisted for the FT's Business Book of the Year 2022. We discuss why microchips are so central to the world economy and how competition between the US and China for control over them has int…
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This week Sam and Stewart are joined by Eric Olander, Co-Founder and Editor-in-Chief of the China-Global South Project to explore China's engagement across the continent and if ChinThe China-Global South Project is a non-profit and non-partisan multimedia editorial initiative dedicated to exploring every facet of China's engagement in Africa.…
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Episode 24: The Economic Outlook of the Party Congress
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This episode of What China Wants is our final in a series of commentary on the 20th Party Congress. Sam and Stewart are joined by returning guest and friend of the podcast, George Magnus, to discuss the economic outlook of the Congress, both in reflecting on both China's recently published 3Q22 numbers and broader trends surrounding the change in p…
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Episode 23: What China's National Party Congress Means for the World
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This week on What China Wants, we are joined by Joseph Torigian to unpack the 20th Party Congress, and what it means for the global political landscape. Worldwide attention on the National Congress might have focused on what happened to former leader Hu Jintao, but there was of course far more to it than that.…
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Episode 22: The Most Powerful Man in the World
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As the 20th Party Congress rumbles on and the world awaits Xi Jinping's expected consolidation of his position as general secretary, this week on What China Wants, we're speaking to the co-author of one of his most recent biographies. Sam and Stewart are pleased to be joined by Stefan Aust, former editor-in-chief of Der Spiegel. His 2021 book with …
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Episode 21: China's Upcoming National Congress
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The five-yearly National Party Congress that begins on 16 October is the most important event in the Chinese Communist Party's calendar. To understand what we might expect, Stewart and Sam speak to a leading Chinese academic based in the UK, who has been studying the run up to the Party Congress. Jinghan Zeng is Professor of China and International…
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This week on What China Wants we are switching our attention back to economics. Sam and Stewart are joined by Anna Macdonald, a Fund Manager at Amati Global Investors to discuss the perceived opportunities and risks investors associate with China. Anna also shares her particular expertise on ESG investing and how investment in China fits around thi…
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Episode 19: China Coups and Disinformation
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With false rumours of a coup against Xi Jinping flying around social media and news outlets last weekend, this week we look at who could have been responsible for this disinformation, and dig into how China uses disinformation for its own purposes too. Sam and Stewart are joined by friend of the podcast, Alex Neill, a leading expert on Chinese infl…
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Episode 18: Is China destroying Europe's Tech Companies?
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Much has been written about IP theft allegedly perpetrated by Chinese actors, but it's not all about hacking - there is a whole range of ways that China plays hard-ball with its foreign competitors. In this episode, we look specifically at the impact on European firms. To do this Sam and Stewart are joined by Luke Patey, senior researcher at the Da…
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Episode 17: The Queen, China and Imperial Monarchy
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It is a sombre week for most people in the United Kingdom, the 14 countries where the late Queen Elizabeth II was Head of State, and the wider Commonwealth. But the impact of the monarch has been felt in other nations around the world too. China may be a century-old republic, and a communist one at that, but that doesn’t mean its rulers can ignore …
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China is on the brink of a water catastrophe. A multiyear drought could push the country into an outright water crisis. But China's water problem is also the world's water problem. This week, Sam and Stewart are joined by Gopal Reddy and Gabriel Collins to explain the systemic nature of the problem and the threat it poses to China. We discuss not o…
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Episode 15: Is China a Threat to Western Liberalism?
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This week Sam and Stewart discuss the challenges posed to Western Liberalism by China in the 21st century. Western liberalism is not the force it once was. The question is, to what extent is the authoritarian model espoused by China and Russia pressuring and ultimately dimming liberalism’s star? To answer this we are joined by Sir Vince Cable, form…
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Episode 14: Pelosi, Drought and Oil Tankers in the Atlantic
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What China Wants is back after the summer break, and this week we're bringing you a round up of an eventful summer for China and its international relations. Stewart and Sam discuss Nancy Pelosi's controversial visit to Taiwan, China's ongoing economic troubles and drought as well as the latest developments in Sino-Russian relations against the bac…
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This week we are examining the issues facing the Chinese economy by re-visiting our interview with George Magnus. This also ties in with the Great Split content from last week because a country with economic issues - now and in the future - is likely to be more adventurous abroad, particularly if that adventure leads to the capture of the key ingre…
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Re-Release: The Coming Economic Shock of the Great Split
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As we are away for the next couple of weeks, and have had so many new listeners recently (hello, everyone), we thought it would be good to republish what we think are two of our most important podcasts. The first of these is one we did on the Great Split and the economic carnage that will be unleashed by a conflict between China and the West over T…
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Episode 13: The Dangers From Invisible China
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This week, Sam and Stewart are joined by one of the foremost developmental economists on China, Scott Rozelle from Stanford University. He is also the author of the brilliant book Invisible China. When the world thinks of China, it thinks of the flashy, prosperous cities of the East and South coasts - Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen. But the majority o…
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Episode 12: UK-China Relations from the Golden Era to Living Dangerously
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In seven short years, relations between China and the UK have gone from high to low - how has this happened, and what does the future hold? We welcome Sam Hogg from Beijing to Britain to talk it through with Sam and Stewart. Beijing to Britain is the only weekly intelligence Briefing mapping UK-China relations. Links Beijing to Britain | Substack S…
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