Advancing racial equity takes courage, patience, and an uncompromising spirit. This is a reality and burden minoritized communities face daily and have worked hard to bridge through advocacy, protest, education, and their own agency. Join Dr. Sylvia (published author and neuroscientist) on her show The more We know community show, conversations cultivating change, as she interviews change makers who are leveling the playing field for all minorities by breaking barriers in their careers, comm ...
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The Book of Mormon, a scripture of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, describes two peoples: Lamanites and Nephites. After a last great battle, the Nephites were destroyed from the face of the earth. The remnants of the Lamanites are among the ancestors of today’s North American Native Americans. Andrea Hales (Navajo), the host of Tribe of Testimonies, interviews faithful Native American Latter-day Saints of tribes across the U.S. and Canada to learn how the Gospel of Jesus Chr ...
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Bartley Harris - Saulteaux-Cree (Peguis First Nation)
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Recently we read and talked about the Stripling Warriors in the war chapters in the book of Alma. We talked about the parents, actually, more than the youth. Why? Because the parents were the ones that we are more like right now. We have the youth--but we're the parents. Bartley Harris talked about his sacred roles of husband and father and how tho…
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It is definitely interesting how some people come to the careers that they do. I read a book by one of my MPA professors who described that process--it isn't a straight line. Gordon Limb's career has not followed a "straight line." But he has been led to do what he does now. During our conversation, he talks about how he's so grateful for the matri…
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The honesty and pure testimony that Gayle shares in this episode is real and powerful. She just talks about her relationships with family and how God has always been a part of those relationships. She talks about how she has used prayer for personal strength and to bless the lives of those she loves and served. Gayle talks matter-of-factly about ho…
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Some people have incredibly fascinating stories. Tolani's story is fascinating. She started life without a birth certificate. She's ending life with multiple graduate degrees. There's a moment when she talks about how she's not always made the most perfect decisions--but has used the Atonement of Jesus Christ and second chances to refocus and redir…
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Nancy Bear Cloud - Apsáalooke (Crow), Gros Ventre, & Assiniboine
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Oh. My. Goodness! Nancy Bear Cloud is beaming! I'm the luckiest because I got to watch her face and eyes as she described her life and testified of Jesus Christ and the blessings found in the temple. She tells here about her life, about how it wasn't always rosy. She talks about trials of faith and of learning how to let go of past hurts and look f…
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Episode fifty-one: New Horizons - Harris's Historic Nomination
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In this episode of "The More We Know Community Show: Conversations Cultivating Change," we delve into the historic nomination of Kamala Harris for President following President Biden's decision to step down. We discuss the potential impact and significance of Harris's candidacy, especially from the perspective of civil rights leader Alberder Gilles…
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In so many ways, DaNae feels like a sister to me. We both grew up so loved by both sides of our families, but yet there was a cultural disconnect. Not an intentional or harmful disconnect, but more situational. At BYU, DaNae started looking more into who she was as a whole person, and that included spending time with relatives she had really only j…
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A while back, my great aunt sent me the names of two people she thought would be amazing guests. Well, finally, someone else convinced Brother Macdonald that he needed to share his testimony more often and more boldly. Doug said things during this conversation that had me really thinking--like about the last days before Christ returns to the land. …
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Sylvia Miera-Fisk - Navajo, Pueblo, Yaqui
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As I'm always keeping an eye out for possible guests, I was shocked to find out we had a gubernatorial candidate who fits this podcast! Sylvia was so kind and interesting to visit with. She's smart and quick. She's well-spoken and thoughtful. It was nice to bask in the truths she was sharing about people, the Gospel, and common sense. It was fun to…
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Priscilla Pearson - an Indian Placement Program Story
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There are some controversial topics surrounding The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. One of them is the Indian Placement Program. I happen to be particularly thankful for the Program. And so is Priscilla Pearson. I interviewed her during my first year of Tribe of Testimonies. But she has mentioned to me a few times how much gratitude sh…
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Lance Morris has done much good in Indian Country. He has helped honor veterans. He has stood for rights to worship and live. But he says that the most important things to him are much closer. He says that the living the tenants of the Gospel of Jesus Christ are the most important--because he wants to live with those he loves for forever. He says b…
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We didn't exactly follow the normal episode pattern. But that's okay. Bob taught us about how the history of his people has brought him where he is and makes him who he is. His ancestors and their stories really matter. And maybe we don't have a direct "link" with the stories in The Book of Mormon, those stories really matter and bring us as member…
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Blaine Goklish - Eastern Shoshone, White Mountain Apache, Blackfeet, & Pawnee
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This episode was recorded two weeks before Blaine was baptized and now uploaded after his baptism! I'm so happy for him!!! I wish I could have been there to witness his special day and to hug him! (Gee whiz, I'm using a lot of exclamation marks!) Things I particularly loved about this conversation include his honesty about how things are with his f…
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JJ First Charger - Kainai (Blood Tribe), Blackfoot Confederacy
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There's a part in this conversation when JJ talks about feeling despair. I think that's why I needed to interview him. When have you felt despair? How did you respond to that? What caused it? What did you do to get out of it? I think it's important that we seek to move out of it ourselves first. Easier said than done, I know. But we have to have ho…
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This episode doesn't "sound" right because I managed to turn my microphone off when I was adjusting the stand. But this episode sounds awesome in all wonderful things Kaika taught us. He loves his heritage because it brings him closer to our Savior, Jesus Christ. He finds joy in the simple pleasures and teachings of his heritage. And he finds joy i…
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When she was a young lady, Lucille found the Gospel of Jesus Christ. She has been on fire with that testimony ever since! Even when she was called to serve a full-time proselyting mission right in her backyard! Her description of how she became and has remained a translator for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is so fun. I'm so glad …
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Samantha Begay-Bass - Navajo & Tewa Pueblo
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I really didn't know much about Samantha before we started visiting. But I'm so glad that we had this time to chat. She really sees the hand of God in her life--and I love that! She and her husband are a team in the goals that they have for their life. And she also recognizes that sometimes the plan you lay can change. Her love of her family and th…
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Dhanielle Declay reached out to me because her testimony is burning brightly. There are so many analogies with fire during this conversation. And there is the topic of a real-life fire that about took Dhanielle's life. She is a burn survivor. As she talked about the pain I could only imagine. She talks about angels who were with her on this side of…
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Geoff & Akasha Balkman - Oglala Lakota / Yankton & Oglala Lakota
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Ah...where to begin with this one. Geoff and Akasha came to my house. And they didn't use a tissue once. You might need one though. This is a tough, tough story. They lost their son out of the blue. Their son just didn't wake up one day. The baby of their family. And I'm so sorry for their loss. I asked them after we recorded how they felt this los…
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One of a kind. Literally. Jacob is Navajo and Nigerian. No siblings. He's one of a kind. But something else that I love about Jacob is that he has dedicated his life to sharing his love of Jesus Christ. He wants people to see Jesus through his actions, speech, and works. It's interesting how sometimes I some of my guests surprise me with how deep t…
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One of the first people that has sent me multiple emails is LaRue. She often sends me a note to tell me how much something someone said on Tribe of Testimonies has affected her. It's taken me a couple years to get her to agree to be a guest. I'm glad she finally accepted my invitation. She has a strong testimony. During the interview, she mentions …
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The longer we talked, the more I appreciated the things Josh had to say about life and family. We talked a lot off the recording as well. There is just so much that I could appreciate about his experiences. Josh shares about some of his family's trials of mental and physical health--and the toll those have on his mental health. I can commiserate! H…
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In a few days from the posting of this episode, a full eclipse will pass over much of the United States. In this conversation, Ira explains a Seneca story about making promises of peace during an eclipse. He is planning on doing a similar pledge with his family and friends during the eclipse. I think that's beautiful! (I wish I could be there!) But…
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Brighten Crawford-Martin - Assiniboine & Sioux
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About a year ago I reached out to Brighten to ask her to be a guest. It didn't work out, so I just left if. But recently I was scrolling through old messages and saw our open conversation and I reached out to her again. This time was the right time. A year ago it wasn't. This time Brighten was not only willing to share her story and testimony, but …
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Tamera Wheeler - Anishinaabe from Sagkeeng First Nation & Navajo
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I remember when I was a student at BYU, I saw this sweet little girl dancing at the Harold A. Cedartree powwow. She was there pretty much every year that I was. Her name is Tamera Wheeler. So, I've seen her around for a long time. She told me that she remembers me coming to her house with my friend, Sommer, to get help making regalia. Tamera has gr…
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It feels like Kalista and I have a lot in common. We both grew up in eastern Utah. We both spent time in Washington, DC. We both have sought reconnection with our heritage. But there are a lot of things we don't have in common. I have not lived as many places as she. We are obviously from different tribes. The biggest common denominator, however, i…
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Holy cow! This young lady is amazing. AH-MAZE-ING. I am so impressed with her testimony and her sweetness. She has lost a great many people in her life. She could choose to be bitter or hard. But instead she is sweet and soft. She is seeking our Savior Jesus Christ actively. She seeks to surround herself with people that live high standards and she…
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Brother Mose was a cowboy. A bull rider, to be exact. Was. Until he got hurt. Since that injury, he's moved on with life. He doesn't do all the things that he once did. Now he does other things to improve his life and the life of those around him. He serves others. He has served as a branch president. He has served with the Boy Scouts. And he serve…
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Some of the most powerful things that Marilyn Reed taught me were: meet people where they are (children or adults); when teaching, allow imperfection and give them the right tools and instructions; grow hope; and make connections with people, Mother Earth, and especially the Godhead. Marilyn has worked hard in all her pursuits. She has received a b…
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Anne Wildcat - Cree & Nakoda (AB, Canada)
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As I listened to Anne, I was struck with how much she LOVES family. She's a single woman. But she clings to family, including those by close blood relations, those of her Nation, those who love Jesus Christ, and those who are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She started really regularly going to the temple because of the …
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Cheryl McManus - Tobacco Plains Ktunaxa, aka Kootenay (BC, Canada)
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The spirit of Elijah is strong with Cheryl McManus. She has felt pulled to her ancestors--sometimes literally. She talks about experiences she has had with them and how their influence has been felt and blessed her life. Cheryl also talks about how, in some regards, she has felt lost because of how her mother was unable to live and cherish her own …
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As I was listening to Sister Enas, I just kept thinking that she's doing a lot more good than she realizes. She's humble. She's kind. She's a good person to be around. I love her stories about how she came back to church and has slowly been immersing herself fully into the Gospel of Jesus Christ. She sees how the church helps us become better peopl…
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Mondo Hand - Mescalero Apache & Chiricahua Apache
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Talking with a surfer dude was kind of fun. But he was also pretty inspiring. Mondo Hand really talked a lot about the Holy Ghost. He talked about how the Holy Ghost can help us in relationships. And he especially talked about how the Holy Ghost can help protect us. I loved that Mondo emphasized that we who have been baptized and confirmed members …
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I've often talked about how, as members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and Native Americans, we have a different view than others. I have a different view than those who were raised "traditionally." And also, every tribe's "traditionally" is different. But as Carlos Reed and I talked about these things, it was very clear to me. …
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I think I'm going to tell the missionaries I'm no longer interested.... Well, that's didn't happen. The Holy Ghost told Sister Pam to go to church with those young missionary sisters. I'm glad she did go to church with them. Pam's spirit is so sweet and beautiful. I love at the end when she talks about what she feels as a member of the Tribe of Isr…
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Thanks to Carrie, Rachel, Michelle, and Olivia. These women called in to share some of their experiences with Tribe of Testimonies. I'm so grateful for their few minutes with us. My hope is that you can experience similar blessings in your life through the testimonies of my guests. I hope you have a super, wonderful, awesome day!…
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This very short episode is all about announcements. 1. I am planning on continuing with Tribe of Testimonies in 2024. 2. I would love if you could call in and leave a short message about what you have loved, what you have learned, who you loved listening to, etc. I would like to make a compilation episode. 3. I'm looking for new music.…
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This conversation was fun for me because Ann Marie asked me a question. And then we talked about it a bunch. What was the question? She asked me about how I hear the Holy Ghost. She has heard the Holy Ghost at three pivotal times in her life and has been grateful she followed those promptings. We talked about how other people have listened to promp…
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Deborah Blackburn - Mississippi Choctaw & Cherokee
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It was super fun to get to interview someone I only slightly knew before. Debbie Blackburn has spent most of her married life in the same little town I grew up in. She was a fixture of my youth because I always saw her driving a school bus. But learning about her history and about her struggles and blessings has given me a whole new appreciation fo…
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He's a gem. I found a gem! Levi Esquerra has been polished and now shines. He attributes a lot of his success to his mother, to other good people in his life, and of course to the Savior. He's been able to get a great education and then use that to benefit others. He served, for a season, his tribe as tribal chairman. Now he serves in a public univ…
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This conversation was so fun! We laughed much. Mostly at ourselves. We talked about how we are each needed in God's plan. Remember in the New Testament how we're each a different part of the body? Yes. We are also all important spokes in a wheel moving toward God's kingdom. Levi Heperi talks about how even as he has moved forward in life without kn…
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So many of us have learning curves--not just speaking about formal education. We have learning curves where we learn to treat people better, where we learn to value things better, and where we understand life better. Austin Lynn is going through learning curves some of us will go through differently. He's learning about his past. He's learning abou…
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The testimony Lottie Orcutt shares about responsibility and trust is amazing. She really knows that Jesus Christ, through His Atonement in our behalf, is The Answer. The answer to what? Like, pretty much everything. The attacks on the family. The relationships are confusing. The health challenges we face. The questions people have about the Gospel.…
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Ty Yellowman is at a turning point in his life. He's about ready to graduate from college. But he has already had enough experiences that he recognizes how blessed he is. He has wonderful people in his life, including his parents, institute leaders, and church leaders. He served a mission where he learned time management skills as well as spiritual…
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Growing up in a teeeeeeeeny tiny Utah town has its benefits. One of those is that when you finally get yourself to the temple after a tumultuous youth, there will inevitably be loved ones there welcoming you. People who knew you when you were a rough stone. People who saw the gem in you. Lemikki Westlund was one of those rough stones. But now she h…
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Daniel Nehring - Monacan Indian Nation of Virginia
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As we prepared for the Utah Gathering of Tribes, my friend and I put a few signs up in a couple locations. One of those locations was at the Trading Post in West Valley, Utah. Daniel Nehring doesn't frequently shop there. But, the day before the Gathering, Daniel was out and about doing some errands. As he was heading home, a very distinct promptin…
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Once upon a time, this sweet family wanted to upgrade their house to a little larger house. They had been working toward this goal for a long time. They prayed to Heavenly Father to help them find the right house. He told them it was in Utah! Whaaaat!?! Yes. So this sweet family moved from Mesa, Arizona, to Utah. And they have found peace and bless…
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Episode fifty: Entrepreneurship Unveiled: The Leonard Wright Story
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In this episode of 'The More We Know Community Show: Conversations Cultivating Change,' we embark on an extraordinary life journey characterized by resilience and entrepreneurial spirit. Our guest, Leonard Wright, Owner & CEO of INPAX Shipping Solutions Inc., guides us through the compelling chapters of his life – from enduring unimaginable poverty…
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It's so awesome how when you go into a conversation with an open mind you can learn so many new things. And it's also amazing how you can find commonalities. I knew hardly anything about Chris, but those good things happened for me. Persistence was a word that Chris uses to describe his son. But I could tell from some of his own stories that he was…
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Episode forty-nine: Leadership and Equity in Public Health: A Conversation with Dr. Ebbin Dotson
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In this episode of the "More We Know Community Show, Conversations Cultivating Change," Host Dr. Sylvia had the privilege of hosting Dr. Ebbin Dotson, an accomplished academic, researcher, and public health leader. As an Assistant Professor at the University of Michigan School of Public Health, Dr. Dotson shares his transformative journey and profo…
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