Welcome to the On Land podcast. On this show we’ll be bringing you thoughtful conversations with the people who are living and working on the land and shaping the future of stewardship in the American West.
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Working Wild U is a new podcast that takes you out into the field, forest and range with the people and wildlife of the American West to tell you the big stories at the heart of the struggle to sustain resilient and connected landscapes and communities. We bring you immersive stories at the crossroads of culture and science focused on the challenges and successes of sharing and managing farms and ranches with wildlife. If you are passionate about open spaces, wild places and healthy communit ...
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Conserving Soundscapes with Sensory Ecologist Jesse Barber
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How does human-related sound impact wildlife around us? From trails to roads to cities, this question propels Dr. Jesse Barber, a leader in the emerging field of sensory ecology. Jesse Barber is a professor of biological sciences at Boise State University. He was recently appointed as the chief conservation curator and chief conservation scientist …
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Watershed-Scale Stewardship with Chrissy McFarren of Badger Creek Ranch
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In this episode of the On Land Podcast, we sit down with Chrissy McFarren, the owner of Badger Creek Ranch in Cañon City, Colorado. Chrissy shares her journey from a first-generation rancher, originally from California, to becoming a dedicated land steward in the American West. We explore the challenges and triumphs of managing a 6,500-acre ranch, …
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Western Landowners Policy Talk | #1 | Jason Fearneyhough and Lesli Allison
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The first Western Landowners Policy Talk, a special monthly edition of the On Land Podcast, hosted by Louis Wertz of the Western Landowners Alliance, featured Jason Fearneyhough, chief policy officer with WLA, and WLA CEO Lesli Allison. Jason joined WLA as chief policy officer in February 2024, after stints as the deputy commissioner of agriculture…
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Imperiled | 07 | What can pollinators teach us about the future of conservation?
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Throughout this season, we’ve explored landowner- and community-led efforts to support imperiled species, from bears and birds to ferrets and fish. In the final episode of this season, we’re looking ahead to the future of imperiled pollinators on working lands. Across the country, there is a growing crisis when it comes to pollinators. What happens…
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Imperiled | 06 | Can Pacific salmon and Idaho ranchers share the river?
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How do we restore salmon spawning habitat in the Upper Salmon watershed without harming the ranching communities that rely on the river? The answer lies in locally-driven collaboration. In this episode, we explore the decades-long community effort to restore spawning grounds for Columbia Basin salmon by letting landowners take the lead. Back in the…
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Imperiled | 05 | What do carbon and cows have to do with lesser prairie-chickens?
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In the heart of America's grasslands, a battle for survival is unfolding. The lesser prairie-chicken, an iconic species of the Great Plains, is on the brink of extinction. But there's a growing network of producers and partners across the plains looking to change that. Today on the show, can ranchers and partners work together to save the lesser pr…
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Imperiled | Bonus | Can these teens recover the razorback sucker?
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When it comes to conservation, can a group of high school students really make a difference? Join Jared and Hallie as they dive into a story involving the Colorado River, an ancient endangered fish, and a group of high school students who are becoming the next generation of stewards. Complete show notes are available on our website.…
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Imperiled | 04 | Chasing ghosts: Can a mysterious bird galvanize a rural renaissance?
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Finding an imperiled species on his ranch scared the daylights out of Russell Davis. What he and his neighbors did next may have saved their town. Today on Working Wild U, join us as we return to the high plains of eastern Colorado to learn how a small ranching community transformed a migratory bird’s imperiled status from threat to opportunity. Co…
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Imperiled | 03 | Can we bring black-footed ferrets back from the brink?
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Today on Working Wild U, we're spotlighting, quite literally, one special species that calls the Great Plains home. A small predator that was thought to be extinct.... twice! Meet the black-footed ferret, the most endangered mammal in North America. Thanks to community-driven efforts spanning the Great Plains, from dedicated ranchers in eastern Col…
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Imperiled | 02 | Where are the grizzlies headed?
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Grizzly bears are expanding their range. But where are they headed? To find out, we get out on the land with ranchers Erik Kalsta and Jami Murdoch, who are working with partners to monitor wildlife – including grizzlies – on their operation in southwest Montana. Together with Erik, Jami and Blackfeet rancher Kristen Kipp, plus a band of other exper…
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Imperiled | 01 | Can ranchers save arctic grayling?
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When a section of the Big Hole River in southwest Montana ran dry in 1988, all eyes were on the future of one of the last remaining populations of arctic grayling in the lower 48. Out of the struggle, a collaboration emerged that change the future of the Big Hole - a future where human communities, wildlife and the ecosystems they depend on can thr…
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We're excited to announce the second season of Working Wild U: Imperiled. This season we're exploring community and landowner-led wildlife conservation on working and tribal lands across the West. From grizzly bears to lesser-known species, join us as we discover the challenges and successes of how communities are working together for common-ground…
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Sarah Wentzel-Fischer, Quivira Coalition director, on Regenerate 2023
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Sarah Wentzel-Fischer is a farmer, a writer, a connector, an advocate. Officially, she wears several hats. She is the Executive Director of the Quivira Coalition, an organization focused on building soil, biodiversity, and resilience on western working landscapes. Sarah raises pigs and makes compost with her partner on Polk's Folly Farm in northern…
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Martha Williams, USFWS director, reflects on the ESA at 50
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Martha Williams is the director of the United State Fish and Wildlife Service, the agency responsible for implementing the Endangered Species Act (along with NOAA’s fisheries division). She grew up on a farm in Maryland and studied law at the University of Montana. From 1988 to 2011, she served as legal counsel for the Montana Department of Fish, W…
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Bonus: The Modern West from Wyoming Public Media
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In this bonus episode, we're sharing an episode from our friends at The Modern West from Wyoming Public Media. The Modern West, hosted by Melodie Edwards, is a podcast documenting the evolving identity of the American West. The Rolling Stone: The Great Individualist Part 1. The cowboy roaming horseback across the American West is nearly inextricabl…
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Drought and resilience in the Sonoran Desert with Sarah King
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Sarah King and her husband manage the King’s Anvil Ranch in the Altar Valley, near Tucson, Arizona. Sarah is also the executive director of the Altar Valley Conservation Alliance. AVCA is a watershed based collaborative conservation organization founded in 1995. They use a strongly collaborative, science-based, community driven approach to conserve…
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The big deal on the Colorado River with reporter Luke Runyon
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This week on the On Land Podcast I welcome veteran water reporter Luke Runyon. Luke covers the Colorado River Basin for public radio station KUNC. His podcast, Thirst Gap, digs into stories that show how water issues can both unite and divide communities throughout the Western U.S. Before covering water at KUNC, Luke covered the agriculture and foo…
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Helping our water do more with Aaron Derwingson of the Nature Conservancy
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Today on the show, Western Landowners Alliance's Programs Director Hallie Mahowald had the pleasure of talking to a good friend, Aaron Derwingson. Derwingson is the water projects director for the Nature Conservancy's Colorado River program. He and Hallie both live in Salida, Colorado. Derwingson has piloted water banking and other tools for flexib…
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Building resilience to drought in the West with Dr. Caroline Nash
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On today's episode, Western Landowners Alliance Programs Director Hallie Mahowald was joined by Dr. Caroline Nash, a hydrologist and geomorphologist with the consulting group CK Blueshift LLC. Dr. Nash got her PhD at Oregon State University and has done field work throughout the American West. She has extensive experience in rangeland conservation …
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Wolves in the West | Bonus | Update on the Colorado Wolf Management Plan
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In today’s bonus episode, we get an update on the Colorado wolf management plan from Hallie Mahowald with Western Landowners Alliance. Hallie was appointed as a member of the Stakeholder Advisory Group to ensure landowners and managers in Colorado were represented in providing input to Colorado Parks and Wildlife. As we explored in episode 13, Colo…
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Wolves in the West | 13 | Colorado wolf reintroduction and the great divide
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We’ve covered a lot this season: wolves, working lands, and some of the ideas and management practices that divide and unite the people of the American West. In our final episode of the season, Alex and Jared head to Colorado, where a ballot initiative, passed in 2020, requires Colorado Parks and Wildlife to reintroduce wolves to the western part o…
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Guest Episode | Down to Earth | Jared Beaver on finding common ground
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Today’s episode is a special guest in our podcast feed, from the Down to Earth: the Planet to Plate Podcast, presented by our friends at the Quivira Coalition and Radio Café. Working Wild U cohost Jared Beaver sat down with Down to Earth host Mary-Charlotte Domandi to discuss why we started Working Wild U, why we chose to wade into a season on wolv…
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Wolves in the West | 12 | Co-producing technology to reduce conflict
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Today, Alex and Jared explore how livestock producers and researchers are working together to adapt old world tools into new world technologies to help reduce conflicts. They’ll look at how innovative solutions can often be simple, and how new tools can help keep people, livestock, and wildlife safe. Find the show notes at workingwild.us…
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Water in California with Wade Crowfoot, California Secretary of Natural Resources
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Wade Crowfoot was appointed California Secretary for Natural Resources in 2019. As Secretary, Crowfoot oversees an agency of 19,000 employees charged with protecting and managing California’s diverse resources, including its fish and wildlife and rivers and waterways. Before becoming Secretary, Crowfoot served as CEO of the Water Foundation, a nonp…
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Wolves in the West | 11 | Old World Tools to New World Technology
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In this episode, Alex and Jared dive into techniques that can help ranchers reduce conflicts between wolves and livestock. They’ll explore how a new spin on an old tool increases the effectiveness of fencing, how putting riders back on the range can have a multitude of benefits, and how one valley in Montana is working together to compost carcasses…
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Wolves in the West | Bonus | Wolf Management on the Colville Reservation
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This is a special bonus episode of Working Wild U. In the northeast corner of Washington on the Colville Reservation, wildlife managers are working to ensure a balance across all wildlife species as wolves re-establish themselves. Today, Alex and Jared hear from Cody Desautel, the executive director and former natural resource director for the Conf…
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Landowners’ Eye on the Capital with Zach Bodhane
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Today we're bringing you a new feature of the On Land podcast: Landowners' Eye on the Capital. In these conversations, we'll be talking with Zach Bodhane, policy director at Western Landowners Alliance. From his vantage in Washington D.C., Zach will share the latest on the most important issues bills and regulations that WLA is working on for lando…
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Wolves in the West | 10 | Wolf management in the Pacific Northwest
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So far this season, we’ve been spending a lot of time in the Northern Rockies, in the states where grey wolves first returned to the West – by reintroduction or recolonization. But in 2008, dispersing wolves from Idaho denned in both eastern Oregon and Washington, where wolves hadn't been seen since the 1940s. In this episode, Alex and Jared explor…
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Wolves in the West | 09 | Wolves dispersing in the modern West
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When wolves disperse, they are increasingly moving through human-dominated landscapes where they often get into trouble. In today’s episode, Alex and Jared explore where wolves are, where different people think they should be, and the tricky business of managing and living with wolves in a changing world. Complete show notes are always available at…
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Wolves in the West | 08 | The Yellowstone Wolf
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Many people, when they think about wolves, think of Yellowstone National Park. And for good reason; it has some of the best wolf watching in the world. But tensions rose when changes to Montana’s wolf hunt along the Park border were made just before the 2021-22 hunting season. In this episode, Alex and Jared explore wolves in and around Yellowstone…
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Wolves in the West | 07 | State Management in the Northern Rockies
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In 2021, the Montana and Idaho legislatures each passed a suite of bills liberalizing wolf hunting. These changes ignited national debate around fair chase ethics, norms of state wildlife management decision-making, and potential relisting of wolves in the Northern Rockies under the Endangered Species Act. Honing in on Montana, hosts Alex and Jared…
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Wolves in the West | 06 | Hunting and the North American model of wildlife conservation
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It’s easy to see wolf management in two buckets: full protection under the Endangered Species Act or unregulated wolf hunting. But successful management of established wildlife populations is most often somewhere in the middle, with hunting used both as a tool and a conservation funding mechanism. Join Alex and Jared as they explore hunting as a ma…
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Guest Episode | Reframing Rural | Farm Succession in Northeast Montana
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Today we’re introducing you to one of our favorite podcasts, Reframing Rural, a show working to “reframe the narrative on rural America.” In this episode from their third season, “Groundwork,” Reframing Rural producer Megan Torgerson shares the intimate journey of her family’s farm succession, as well as others in her home community of Dagmar, Mont…
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Do wolves pose a threat to people? What is “normal” wolf behavior? What happens when wolves set up shop in your neighborhood? Join hosts Alex and Jared as they explore a collection of stories about wolves getting a little too close for comfort, and the difficult choices wildlife managers face when wolves come to town. Complete Show Notes at working…
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Wolves in the West | 04 | Return of the wolf: A landscape of fear
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In 1995, wolves were reintroduced to Yellowstone National Park after decades of absence. It didn't take long for them to make their way to Julia Childs' ranch, located just north of the park. When wolves were reintroduced in the Northern Rockies, they were entering a complex social and political landscape that continues today. In this episode, Alex…
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Wolves in the West | 03 | Whose blood, sweat and tears are in your hamburger?
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96% of wolves in the Northern Rockies live in the working wild: public and private lands where people and wildlife share the landscape. But who pays the cost of supporting biodiversity on the landscape? To find out, we explore the economics of our food system and take a look at how one ranch family is getting creative in order to share the landscap…
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Wolves in the West | 02 | How did we get here?
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To understand how we got to where we are today, hosts Alex and Jared go to Albert Sommers’ operation and the Green River Drift, a cattle migration in Wyoming that’s been taking place for generations. We’ll learn about the land management policies that shaped predator eradication, public lands, and the West we know today. Complete show notes at work…
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Wolves in the West | 01 | Defining the Problem
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In the western United States, wolves represent many things to many people. To some, wolves are a symbol of wildness. To others, wolves represent a very real threat to their livelihoods and well-being. Join us as we explore how people’s values impact how they think about wolves. When it comes to wolves, can we find a shared vision for the future? Co…
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Working Wild U is a new podcast that takes you out into the field, forest and range with the people and wildlife of the American West to tell you the big stories at the heart of the struggle to sustain resilient and connected landscapes and communities. Season 1 explores wolves in the West - from extermination to recovery, to uncovering what it rea…
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Place-based collaboratives and conflict reduction with Matt Collins
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In this bonus episode, we take you live to the International Wolf Symposium, on October 11th, for a talk by Matthew Collins, Western Landowners Alliance’s Working Wild Challenge program associate. Before Matt joined WLA, he conducted research into how local groups, called place-based collaboratives, helped improve adoption of practices that reduce …
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The Colorado River Crisis with Andy Mueller
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The big news in the West these days is drought, and specifically drought in the Colorado River Basin. In upcoming episodes, we're going to bring you some really interesting conversations with land stewards who are trying really cool things to deal with the drought, save water, and restore watersheds. But today, we wanted to provide listeners with s…
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Bonus: Representing land stewards on Colorado wolf advisory group
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We thought you might enjoy this short interview that aired on Raymond Toney's Colorado Howl radio show, produced by KDUR Durango. It features WLA’s programs director, Hallie Mahowald, who is on the Colorado Parks and Wildlife stakeholder advisory group (SAG) for the reintroduction and management of wolves in Colorado. In 2020, Coloradans voted to r…
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Well listeners, that’s a wrap on Season 01 of the On Land Podcast! Amber got to talk with some amazing women from all walks of life about their relationships with the West, having a place-based ethic, the importance of storytelling, and much more. Keep sharing, keep listening, and stay tuned for more. In our upcoming Season 02, we’ll be featuring i…
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Today we’re pleased to share our conversation with Louise Johns. Louise is a documentary photographer and National Geographic Explorer based in Montana. Her work examines the relationships between people, place and animals, with a particular focus on rural, agricultural and indigenous communities. She began documenting the landscapes and people of …
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Capturing Ranch Life with Photographer Della Frederickson
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Today we’re sharing our conversation with western photographer and wrangler Della Frederickson. After graduating from Auburn University with a degree in Digital Marketing, this South Florida girl booked it to Wyoming, where she applied her horsewomenship skills as a wrangler at a guest ranch in the heart of Grand Teton National Park for several yea…
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Photographing the Cowgirl Life with Barbara Van Cleve
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Today we are honored to share our conversation with the renowned Western photographer and fifth-generation Montana rancher Barbara Van Cleve. Barbara has spent her career photographing the American West, inspired largely by a lifetime spent on her family’s ranch just east of the Crazy Mountains in southwest Montana. For her entire life, Barbara Van…
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The Future of Agriculture with Miah Chalfant
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Miah Chalfant is a rancher, contemporary ledger artist, and passionate communicator of her community’s ways of life, both as a rancher and as an enrolled member of the Northern Cheyenne Tribe. Miah ranches with her family in southeast Montana, and is looking to study Agricultural Media and Communications as she heads off to college. Though still a …
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Becca Skinner is a photographer, writer, National Geographic Explorer, and farmer in the permaculture food forest at her home near Bozeman, Montana. As you’ll hear in this episode, Becca started in adventure storytelling, but has since expanded her focus to include private land stewardship and sustainable food production, topics that are now centra…
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Painting the Rural West with Melissa DiNino
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Having moved out to remote areas of Montana for work after college, Melissa DiNino found herself in places that were steeped in quiet contemplation. As a range rider, she worked at the heart of small ranching communities where she monitored cattle and tracked wolves and grizzlies by horseback. She learned how the resiliency of rural communities rel…
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Healing the Landscape with Nicole Masters
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Nicole Masters is an independent agroecologist, systems thinker, educator and author of “For the love of soil.” She has a formal background in ecology, soil science and organizational learning studies. She is one of a growing number of people who are facilitating the rapidly expanding world of quality food production and biological economies. As yo…
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