Join Dr. Chrisha Anderson and Catherine McKenna for complex feelings, fangirling, and fun as they begin a second season of their Supernatural podcast--focused on the new series, "The Winchesters." With a pro-Destiel and queer Dean outlook, and special attention to LGBTQ+ content, they hope you'll come along for the ride. Special thanks and credit to our amazing contributors: Logo: Gio_Gui Music: VooDooBlooze Disclaimer: The information presented in this podcast is intended to be for entertai ...
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17.6: "The Winchesters'" Finale - The Music Story
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17.5: "The Winchesters'" Finale - The Akrida Story
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! CONTENT WARNING: There is a discussion of suicide and suidical ideation as it pertains to the characters of Akrida Kyle & Lata from The Winchesters and Dean from Supernatural. Please be aware and kind to yourselves, Wayward Friends. The portion that discu…
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17.4: "The Winchesters'" Finale - The Jack Problem (Plus Baby, Cas, & A Bit Of Destiel)
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine start the discussion with Jack and his odd behavior at the end of Supernatural and during The Winchesters' finale before moving on to talk about Baby, The Winchesters' title card and its connection to the Akrida, and…
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17.3: "The Winchesters'" Finale - The Dean Story
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss how the car scene at the end of the episode should have been, as a giant infodump, dull--and yet it was not (thanks, Ackles and Thompson!). They also discuss the clapbacks to the Supernatural finale, how dyin…
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17.2: "The Winchesters'" Finale - The Monster Club Story
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine catch up on what's been going on behind the scenes with each other, the writers' and actors' strikes and victories, the ongoing trash-fires at networks and streamers, and their gratitude to folks behind The Wincheste…
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17.1: Re-Released Reaction Episode - "The Winchesters'" Finale
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! Note: This is a re-release of Chrisha and Catherine's reaction episode to The Winchesters' finale, which was originally released on March 8, 2023. A full analysis of "That's No Way to Say Goodbye" will be released in January, 2024. In this raw audio episo…
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16.2: "The Winchesters" E12 - Red String Edition
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine look into the theme of mirrors and misdirection, which is particularly prevalent in this episode but has been a running theme throughout the series. They also examine the parallels this episode has with multiple epis…
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16.1: "The Winchesters" E12 - Witches & Clowns (And Biggest Fears)
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine talk about the penultimate episode of The Winchesters, "The Tears of a Clown." Topics include: the concern about Ada considering giving up her soul; Dean's narration about the lies we tell ourselves and what self-lie…
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15.2: "The Winchesters" E11 - Red String Edition
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine talk jackets and callbacks, Lata's relationship with Maggie, queer media texts, the implications of this being an autobiographical story (told from Dean's perspective), and the interesting messaging behind the song "…
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15.1: "The Winchesters" E11 - The Truth Shall Set You Free
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss the way that the series thus far has been a healing experience for many from Supernatural's finale, Mary's response to Betty and to John's arrest, the revelations about John while he's in police custody, Lata…
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14: "The Winchesters" E10 - Prions & Proteins, Problems & Successes
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! CONTENT WARNING: This episode includes discussions of Holocaust imagery and the medical and institutional history of targeting marginalized and oppressed groups for exploitation and experimentation. Please be mindful of your wellbeing when deciding to lis…
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13.2: "The Winchesters" E9 - Red String Edition
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! This episode begins with a discussion of fate vs luck in "Cast Your Fate to the Wind" and the wider Supernatural franchise. Catherine and Chrisha then move on to monsters and gods, the differences between The Winchesters' vampires and the vampires from Su…
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13.1: "The Winchesters" E9 - Fate vs Free Will
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11.2: "The Winchesters" E8 - Red String Edition
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine delve into what they've affectionately termed "the red string": trying to figure out what all the hints and mysteries behind each episode are leading to. Topics include: What the HELL was Chuck doing onstage in the e…
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! SPOILER WARNING: This episode contains reactions to and discussions of The Winchesters' season finale, "Hey, That's No Way To Say Goodbye." . . . . . . . . . . . In this raw audio episode, Chrisha and Catherine discuss their initial reactions to The Winch…
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11.1: "The Winchesters" E8 - Dean is BACK!
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! If you want to follow along with Chrisha's social media reveals, scroll down to find all the links! In this episode, Chrisha and Catherine do a whole lot of screeching about: Dean Dean's birthday Dean talking about having an open heart That freaking amazi…
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10.2: "The Winchesters" E7 - Reflections of Destiel and AU Madness
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! In Part 2 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters' "Reflections," Chrisha and Catherine take out their red string and have fun trying to untangle the mess of what the heck is going on in the wider story. They look at look at the connections between the Akrid…
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10.1: "The Winchesters" E7 - Odd Ghouls & Akrida Possession
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! In Part 1 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters' "Reflections," Chrisha and Catherine look at the characters' journeys--everything from the psychological reasons for John's regression under pressure to Millie and Ada bonding to Carlos' knowledge of Latin. …
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9.2: "The Winchesters" E6 - Red String, AUs, and Some Destiel
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! Content Warning: This episode includes discussions of Dean Winchester's death. In Part 2 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters' "Art of Dying," Chrisha and Catherine go full red string with discussions about possible AUs, the musical paratexts and how they…
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9.1: "The Winchesters" E6 - barn Barn BARN Barn bArN (& Some Queerness)
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! In Part 1 of their 2-parter on The Winchesters' "Art of Dying," Chrisha and Catherine talk about barns. A lot. They also discuss Mary's growth as a leader, John's anger and his attempt at healing, Lata's powerful choice for non-violence, and Carlos' sudde…
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8.2: "The Winchesters" E5 - F*** John Winchester, Red String Edition
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! In Part 2 of their two-parter on The Winchesters' "Legacy of a Mind," Chrisha and Catherine pull out the red string. They delve into the reasons why Mary and John's journey into Mary's mind may have felt a little familiar, why the monster of the week may …
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8.1: "The Winchesters" E5 - F*** John Winchester
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! It was another massive recording session for episode five of The Winchesters, "Legacy of a Mind," so this week Chrisha and Catherine are breaking it down into two different parts. Part 1 explores the Monster Club's character arcs in the episode and the th…
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7: "The Winchesters" E4 - Trauma, Anger, Isolation, Community, & Healing
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! Content Warning: This episode includes discussion of PTSD and John's self-harm behavior. It's been a bit of a wait, but Catherine and Chrisha are back with a MASSIVE almost 2 hour episode about The Winchester's E4, "Masters of War." They focus in on the t…
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6: "The Winchesters" E3 - Meta, Red String, & Radio Waves
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! Episode 3 of The Winchesters was wild, and Catherine and Chrisha were definitely feeling like that gif of the guy with the red string by the end of recording this episode. From new character revelations to the dueling music narratives to the way that radi…
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5: "The Winchesters" E2 - Monstrous Parents & Generational Trauma
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! Episode 2 of The Winchesters hit hard on the concept of monstrous parents, generational trauma, cycles of abuse, and finding yourself. From La Tunda, to Mary's relationship with Samuel, to John and Millie's fractious interactions, Chrisha and Catherine de…
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4: "The Winchesters" Pilot Thoughts ... So Many Thoughts!
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! Chrisha and Catherine have SOOOOO many thoughts about The Winchesters' premiere. From discussions about all the new characters, the incredible music, the Easter eggs and the parallels between moments from this new show and Supernatural, to thoughts about …
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! There has been so much promotional material coming out about The Winchesters that Catherine and Chrisha have literally not been able to keep up! But they did have an opportunity to record about some of it, and you can listen to their thoughts about: - tha…
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! In this full length episode, Chrisha and Catherine go into a more in-depth look at the upcoming series, The Winchesters. After their initial full on "nope" reaction to its first mention, they share what led them to give it a try. While still having reserv…
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1: "The Winchesters" - A New Series & A New Project
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! The Fangirl Business is BACK with a new episode teasing their new project: the upcoming series, The Winchesters. Welcoming listeners both old and new, Catherine and Chrisha discuss how their previous season, which followed the highs and lows of Supernatur…
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43: Radio Company's "Watching Over Me" & Some Squee
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! Content Warning: This episode contains audio from Castiel's confession scene. In what is a very 2022 moment, Chrisha and Catherine present to you a podcast they recorded in 2021--whilst also announcing an official hiatus after having not released any cont…
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42.3: Deconstructing "Carry On" - From Dean's Funeral to the Bridge Reunion
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On," starting at Dean's funeral and ending at the bridge reunion. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio clip…
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42.2: Deconstructing "Carry On" - The Barn and Dean's Death Scene
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On," starting with a discussion of the barn setting and including the entirety of Dean's death scene. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be to…
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42.1: Deconstructing "Carry On" - From Recap to Vamp Fight
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses and analyzes "Carry On" up to and including the vampire fight, but prior to Dean's death. We are including chapter markers in this episode so that you can skip moments that may be too difficult. There are no audio …
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! Note: Due to life, an abundance of excellent series rewatch podcasts, and the new series The Winchesters, "Reclaiming Supernatural" has been put on the back burner for the immediate future. In this episode of The Fangirl Business, Chrisha and Catherine ta…
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40: State of the Fandom - Post Finale Edition
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *S15E20 SPOILERS DISCUSSED IN THIS EPISODE* Chrisha and Catherine are back with an all-new State of the Fandom (SotF) episode, after a much needed haitus! In this podcast, they discuss this transitional period for the fandom and their own personal journey…
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39: "Carry On" - Pain, Trauma, and Processing
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *S15E20 SPOILERS BELOW* In their overview of Supernatural’s finale, Chrisha and Catherine discuss their personal reactions and the many triggers embedded within the narrative. Note: There are no audio clips in this episode of The Fangirl Business. CONTENT…
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38.2: "Inherit the Earth," "Fanfiction," & Reciprocal Destiel Hopes
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *S15E19 SPOILERS BELOW* The time has come, wayward friends... our LAST podcast before we know it all! Join Chrisha and Catherine as they discuss all things Destiel in Inherit The Earth, including Cas' loud absence, Dean's self-actualization, and what they…
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38.1: "Inherit the Earth" - From "WTAF?" to "GENIUS!"
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *S15E19 SPOILERS BELOW* Chrisha and Catherine's initial reaction to "Inherit the Earth" was very much "WTAF?" However, after some discussion, and some delving into the details, their ultimate take is: "GENIUS!" Come along for the ride as they discuss the …
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37.2: "Despair," Destiel, & Dessert - Feelings, Analysis, Hope ... and Pie!
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *S15E18 SPOILERS BELOW* At last... pie! Come join Chrisha and Catherine in their most joyous podcast episode to date, as they squee and sob their way through Destiel going CANON! Beyond the squee, they process their feelings about the ship and what it mea…
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37.1: "Despair" - Context, Guest Stars, TFW2.0, and....Kale!
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *S15E18 SPOILERS BELOW* In this episode of highly delicious and nutritious kale-like content, Chrisha and Catherine start their discussion of Despair, including real world context, guest stars, Dean's dramatic change after the departure of Chuck, Dad!Sam,…
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36.2: "Unity," Humans, Seraphs, and Free Will (and our very last subtext episode!)
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *S15E17 SPOILERS BELOW* In this episode (the last one before the subtext became the text!), Chrisha and Catherine discuss the parallels between Adam and Seraphina and Dean and Cas and consider the implications of Chuck's revelations about Amara and Castie…
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36.1: "Unity," Dean's Rage, Sam's Vulnerability, and Cas' Free Will
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *S15E17 SPOILERS BELOW* In another supersized podcast, Chrisha and Catherine begin the work of analyzing "Unity." In an excellently crafted episode that generated a lot of big feelings, they hone in on Dean's rage, Sam's vulnerability, and Cas' free will.…
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34.2: "Drag Me Away (From You)", Musical Subtext, and Dean's Sexuality
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *S15E16 SPOILERS BELOW* In this mini shipping episode about "Drag Me Away (From You)", Chrisha and Catherine delve into music choices, prayer in Supernatural, the mirroring of Dean and Travis, and Dean's continued lack of sexual interest in female charact…
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *S15E18 SPOILERS BELOW* Chrisha and Catherine could not contain their excitement about DESTIEL GOING FREAKING CANON in "Despair" and literally started recording this within 15 minutes of the episode ending on the East Coast. Come listen to them screech, s…
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34.1 "Drag Me Away (From You)", Childhood Trauma, & Characterization Choices
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *S15E16 SPOILERS BELOW* It's another supersized podcast from Chrisha and Catherine! In it, they discuss the hits and misses of "Drag Me Away (From You)", including the troubling depiction of therapy, characterization choices, and the way that the episode …
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33.2: "Gimme Shelter", Shipping, and End Game Musings
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *S15E15 SPOILERS BELOW* Chrisha and Catherine discuss "Gimme Shelter"'s shipping elements, focusing in on Dean and Cas' parenting, that photo Cas used to summon the crossroads demon, and the problematic nature of Amara and Dean's past "relationship." They…
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33.1: The Dark Side of Humanity & Gifts from Deities in "Gimme Shelter"
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *S15E15 SPOILERS BELOW* In this supersized podcast, Chrisha and Catherine discuss "Gimme Shelter," which was split between a lot of cuteness and a lot of heavy content. They squee over Cas' return and all the adorable moments in which Jack emulates his da…
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32: Theories - The Mystery of the Garden; Free Will; the Beginning and the End
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *SPOILERS THROUGH S15E13 BELOW* In this episode (recorded just before the end of hiatus), Chrisha and Catherine look back at elements that have been laid down in previous seasons as they theorize about what may come in the final few episodes of Supernatur…
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31: Cuteness, Torture, and Parenting in "Last Holiday"
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *S15E14 SPOILERS BELOW* They've survived their very last (and longest!) Hellatus, and Chrisha and Catherine are back with an all new, super-sized podcast about "Last Holiday!" They have an honest conversation about missing Cas, squee about all the cutenes…
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30: "Galaxy Brain" and "Destiny's Child" ... Shipping Edition
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We'd love to hear from you! Reach out to us via this link to let us know what you're thinking! *SPOILERS THROUGH S15E13 BELOW* Join Chrisha and Catherine for a 2-for-1 shipping special, as they delve into the Destiel subtext of both Galaxy Brain AND Destiny's Child! From porn jokes to clinking glasses to toddler co-parenting to intricate religious …
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