Robert Baker and Joseph St. John were raised in Newport News, VA during the 1970s. Living less than a mile apart and attending the same school, Willis A. Jenkins Elementary, Robert and Joe met in 3rd grade when Robert, who was known as Joey back then, moved to the neighborhood. As a matter of fact, they met the first day that Robert went to his new school, and they started a friendship that continues to this day.It was not a friendship that did not endure unbroken over time. After high schoo ...
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Two Average Joes: The Making of An Ordinary Killer
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Summary In this episode of Two Average Joes, Dean discusses the making of the movie 'An Ordinary Killer' and its connection to the future of the podcast. The movie, produced by Collective Development, Incorporated, is based on a true story and follows the life of Gerald Leroy Wingeart, a convicted rapist and murderer. The film was completed in 2001…
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How unique and yet terrifying would it be to hear first hand what it’s like to be abducted? How scared would you be to find yourself in a car and then finding out you're alone with a convicted rapist and a convicted killer. What would you say? What would you feel? Would you be quick and begin to figure out a way to escape? Would the paralyzing fear…
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Two Average Joes with Kevin King - What Happens When the Prison System Lies???
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Two Average Joes with Kevin King - What Happens When the Prison System Lies??? In our latest installment on Prison Reform, Kevin King tells of his 12-year ordeal in regard to his situation in the Michigan Department of Corrections. Would government officials try to set up an inmate just because the internee was trying to protect other prisoner’s co…
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2AJs Presents: True Crime Incorporated - Episode 2: Why is it so Hard to Correct Myth?
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Why is it so hard to correct myth? In spite of facts, crimes can be committed and no one will be charged or held accountable. In the case of Dawn Basom, who was murdered over 50 years ago, her case has never been solved. No one has ever been arrested and no one has ever been sent to jail. However, if you goggle her name, you would quickly see that …
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True Crime Incorporated, Joseph St. John, Dean Teaster and Deneen Azzolino discuss how difficult it can be to gather truth in the modern age. What passes for research is often just people cutting and pasting information from a few articles and calling it truth. Is real research dead?? What does it take to collect actual information? Can it be done?…
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2 Average Joes: Do You Really Know What Happens in the Prison System? With Kevin King
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Kevin King discusses his time in the Michigan Prison System. Do we really know what happens behind prison walls? Do we really know anything? Links to other information: Two Average Joes Presents: Prison Reform with Kevin King The Musing of 2 Average Joes – True Crime and Prison Reform https://twoaveragejoes.com/opinion/november-7-2023-the-musing-of…
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Two Average Joes Presents: Prison Reform with Kevin King
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Who really knows what goes on behind our prison walls? A Short Introduction to Kevin King: On May 17th, 2023, Kevin was asked to speak to the Oakland County Bar Association (OCBA), about being incarcerated within the Michigan Department of Corrections (MDOC), for almost 41 years. How, he was released from custody with a Life Without Parole Sentence…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E23 – Michigan Murders: The Exclusive Interview
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders, #truecrimeaddict, #serialkiller, #podcasts, #johnnormancollins, #1960s This is the fascinating August 2013 interview of former Eastern Michigan University Campus Police Patrol Officer (1965-1969) Larry Matthewson. Interviewed by 2 Average Joe’s Robert Baker, Ken Harvey (Gary Leiterman’s Cousin), and Mike Manning (Profe…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E22 – Michigan Murders: John Norman Collins– “The Trial” (Conclusion)
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders, #truecrimeaddict, #serialkiller, #podcasts, #johnnormancollins, #1960s This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Karen Sue Beineman The following links will help you follow our podcasts: 2 Avg. Joes S02 E21 – Michigan Murders: John Norman Col…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E21 – Michigan Murders: John Norman Collins– “The Trial”
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders, #truecrimeaddict, #serialkiller, #podcasts, #johnnormancollins, #1960s This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Karen Sue Beineman The Michigan Murders: The True Story of the Ypsilanti Ripper's Reign of Terror Catching Serial Killers: Learni…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E20 – Michigan Murders: 8th Victim Karen Sue Beineman 1969 – “The Last Victim?” (Postscript)
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders, #truecrimeaddict, #serialkiller, #podcasts, #johnnormancollins, #1960s This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Karen Beineman The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: 2 Avg. Joes S02 E19 – Michigan Murde…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E19 – Michigan Murders: 8th Victim Karen Sue Beineman 1969 – “The Last Victim?”
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders, #truecrimeaddict, #serialkiller, #podcasts, #johnnormancollins, #1960s This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Karen Beineman The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: The Michigan Murders: The True Story…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E18 – Michigan Murders: 7th Victim Roxie Ann Phillips 1969 – “Going to California”
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders, #truecrimeaddict, #serialkiller, #podcasts, #johnnormancollins, #1960s This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Roxie Ann Phillips The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: The Michigan Murders: The True S…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E17 – Michigan Murders: 6th Victim Alice Kalom 1969 – “In Purple” (Postscript
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders, #truecrimeaddict, #serialkiller, #podcasts, #johnnormancollins, #1960s This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Alice Kalom The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: 2 Avg. Joes S02 E16 – Michigan Murders:…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E16 – Michigan Murders: 6th Victim Alice Kalom 1969 – “In Purple”
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders, #truecrimeaddict, #serialkiller, #podcasts, #johnnormancollins, #1960s This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Alice Kalom The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: Alice Kalom was ‘Serious, Likable’ The …
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E15 – Michigan Murders: 5th Victim Dawn Basom 1969 – “Off the Rails” (Postscript)
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders, #truecrimeaddict, #serialkiller, #podcasts, #johnnormancollins, #1960s This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Dawn Basom The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: 2 Avg. Joes S02 E14 – Michigan Murders: …
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E14 – Michigan Murders: 5th Victim Dawn Basom 1969 – “Off the Rails”
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders, #truecrimeaddict, #serialkiller, #podcasts, #johnnormancollins, #1960s This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Dawn Basom The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: Slain Girl’s Last Hour Theorized by Poli…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E13 – Michigan Murders: 4th Victim Maralynn Skelton 1969 (Postscript)
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders, #truecrimeaddict, #serialkiller, #podcasts, #johnnormancollins, #1960s This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Maralynn Skelton The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: 2 Avg. Joes S02 E12 – Michigan Mur…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E12 – Michigan Murders: 4th Victim Maralynn Skelton 1969
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This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Maralynn Skelton The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: The Michigan Murders: The True Story of the Ypsilanti Ripper's Reign of Terror Catching Serial Killers: Learning from Past Serial Murde…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E11 – Michigan Murders: The Iowa State Case of Sheila Collins, Iowa State Murder
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders, #truecrimeaddict, #serialkiller This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Sheila Jean Collins, Iowa State Murder The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: Part four: Theories, but no arrests (Sheila Jean Co…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E10 –Gary Leiterman Dangerous DNA with Kristle Goins
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: 2 Avg. Joes S02 E09 –Michigan Murders: The Case of Gary Leiterman The Committee to Free Gary Leiterman The Michigan Murders: …
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E09 –Michigan Murders: The Case of Gary Leiterman
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This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Jane Mixer The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: The Committee to Free Gary Leiterman The Michigan Murders: The True Story of the Ypsilanti Ripper's Reign of Terror 1969 Ann Arbor Area Murde…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E08 –Michigan Murders: 3rd Victim Jane Mixer 1969 (Postscript)
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Jane Mixer The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: 2 Avg. Joes S02 E07 –Michigan Murders: 3nd Victim Jane Mixer 1969 The Michigan Murders: The True Story of the Yp…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E07 –Michigan Murders: 3rd Victim Jane Mixer 1969
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Jane Mixer The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: Did John Norman Collins Work Alone? 'Handsome' EMU student was unlikely serial killer suspect. Letters, intervie…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E06 –Michigan Murders: 2nd Victim Joan Schell 1968 (Postscript)
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Joan Schell The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: 2 Avg. Joes S02 E05 –Michigan Murders: 2nd Victim Joan Schell 1968 Did John Norman Collins Work Alone? 'Handsom…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E05 –Michigan Murders: 2nd Victim Joan Schell 1968
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Norman Collins · Joan Schell The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: Did John Norman Collins Work Alone? 'Handsome' EMU student was unlikely serial killer suspect. Letters, intervi…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E04 –Michigan Murders: 1st Victim Mary Fleszer 1967 (Updated and Revisited)
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Collins · Mary Fleszar The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: 2 Avg. Joes S02 E03 –Michigan Murders: 1st Victim Mary Fleszer 1967 Desert Sun, Volume 43, Number 1, 5 August 1969 Mi…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E03 –Michigan Murders: 1st Victim Mary Fleszer 1967
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Collins · Mary Fleszar The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: Desert Sun, Volume 43, Number 1, 5 August 1969 https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=DS19690805.2.35&e=-------en--20--1--txt-tx…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E02 –Michigan Murders: Mayhem, Carnage & Upheaval 1969
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#TrueCrime, #MichiganMurders This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Collins · The World in 1968 and 69 · Vietnam The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: Desert Sun, Volume 43, Number 1, 5 August 1969 https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=DS19690805.2.35&e=--…
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2 Avg. Joes S02 E01 – True Crime: Why It Matters (The Story of “In Cold Blood”)
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This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · The History of True Crime · In Cold Blood · The Case of Gary Leiterman · Michigan Murders · John Collins · Charles Manson The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: The Story Behind a Nonfiction Novel By GEORGE PLIMPTON https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/b…
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2 Avg. Joes S01 E19 - A Fond Farewell to the Dumpster Fire that was 2021, Merry Christmas to all, and to all a goodnight!
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This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · Merry Christmas · Predictions 2022 · Happy New Year The following link will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: 2 Avg. Joes S01 E18 -Biden grade for 2021: F for FIASCO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4nL-QHEvDo&t=1s If you would like to donate to our cause please contact us at htt…
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2 Avg. Joes S01 E18 -Biden grade for 2021: F for FIASCO
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This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · Biden’s Grade: It’s an “F” · Crime Matters · Twitter The following links will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: 2 Avg. Joes S01 E10 – Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill - Election Integrity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFVLzfo2jGY 2 Avg. Joes S01 E09 – Jeff Dunham’s Achmn…
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2 Avg. Joes S01 E17 - Parents Charged and Jailed in School Shooting: The New Normal?
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This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: Michigan school shooter's parents charged with involuntary manslaughter Chris Cuomo The following links will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: Tucker: Media corruption is deeper than you know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok8XwtvEnCM Michigan school shooter's parents charged with…
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2 Avg. Joes S01 E16 – Know Your Rights and Shut Up
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#MirandaRights #YourRights #Miranda This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: Know Your Rights Miranda Rights Shut Up And Know Your Rights The following links will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: The Law http://southerngothiccreations.com/uncategorized/the-law/ A Little Critical Thinking Will Go A Long Way http://souther…
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2 Avg. Joes S01 E15 - Kyle Rittenhouse, Protecting Yourself from the Courts and World War III
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#KyleRittenhouse, #TrueCrime, #WWIII This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: · Kyle Rittenhouse · Protecting Yourself from the Courts · The Myth of Red and Blue States · True Crime · World War III The following links will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: Media Has Total Meltdown Over Kyle Rittenhouse Verdict https://www…
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2 Avg. Joes S01 E14 - Standing Up for Freedom with Marlena Pavlos-Hackney
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This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discuss with Marlena Pavlos-Hackney: · Communism in Poland · Communism in America · Warning to Americans · Everyone Should Wake Up · Something is Wrong with This Picture · No Fear The following links will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: Marlena Pavlos-Hackney, the First Political Prisoner o…
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2 Avg. Joes S01 E13 - Yes Virginia, Woke Really Tries to Kill American Pie and Aaron Gets Jabbed!
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This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: Virginia Elections Killing Classic Rock The Vax Aaron Rodgers The following links will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: OSHA vaccine mandate to hit large employers Jan. 4, with hefty fines for noncompliance https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/osha-vaccine-mandate-employers-jan-4-…
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2 Avg. Joes S01 E12 – Fanning the Flames of Mandates and Facebook Censorship is the Devil
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#Mandates #Covid19 Our Boldest Episode Ever! This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes discusses: Fanning the Flames of Mandates Facebook Censorship is the Devil Voter Integrity Let’s Go Brandon Why Do the Left Love Trump’s Manly Parts? The following links will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: 2 Avg. Joes S01 E10 – Alabama Secretary…
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2 Avg. Joes S01E11 – Surviving Woke University with Isabella Azzolino
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2 Avg. Joes S01E11 – Surviving Woke University with Isabella Azzolino #Woke #Education #Censorship This week’s episode of Two Avg. Joes with Isabella Azzolino discusses: Surviving Woke University When You Aren’t Liberal in College The Future of Education The following links will help you follow the stories covered by Two Avg. Joes: When You Aren’t …
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2 Avg. Joes S01 E10 – Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill - Election Integrity and the Political Process
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2 Avg. Joes S01 E10 – Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill - Election Integrity and the Political Process #ElectionIntegrity #PoliticalProcess With Deliverance Harrison 2AJs are proud to have the Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill on this episode This week’s episode of Two Ave Joes discusses: Election Integrity The Political Process And Rol…
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2 Avg. Joes S01 E09 – Jeff Dunham’s Achmnderson Blitzer, Fitness in Today’s World and Introducing Deliverance Harrison
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2 Avg. Joes S01 E09 – Jeff Dunham’s Achmnderson Blitzer, Fitness in Today’s World and Introducing Deliverance Harrison #JeffDunham #Biden #Fitness We are back with a little spice… Deliverance Harrison This week’s episode of Two Ave Joes discusses: Jeff Dunham’s Achmnderson Blitzer Fitness in Today’s World Introducing Deliverance Harrison The follow…
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2 Avg. Joes – S01E08: The Train Wreck that is the Biden’s Presidency, Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller and More
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2 Avg. Joes – S01E08: The Train Wreck that is the Biden’s Presidency, Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller, the Left Gone Crazy and An Honest Debate We are Back! This week’s episode of Two Ave Joes discusses: The Train Wreck that is the Biden’s Presidency Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller Left Gone Crazy The following links will help you follow the stories covered by T…
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2 Avg. Joes – S01 E07 – The Religion of the Left is Government, The Mark of the Beast and the Vax Gone Wild
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WELCOME BACK! This week’s episode of Two Ave Joes discusses: The Religion of the Left is Government, The Mark of the Beast And the Vax Gone Wild The following links will help you follow the stories covered by Two Ave Joes: Federal judge deals blow to vaccine mandate for NYC teachers https://www.aol.com/news/federal-judge-deals-blow-vaccine-16175066…
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2 Ave Joes S01E06: Tesla - While We are Distracted by BS, Amazing Things are Happening
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WELCOME BACK! This week’s episode of Two Ave Joes discusses: Good News the MSM Does Not Talk About Tesla Hope Porn The following links will help you follow the stories covered by Two Ave Joes: Tesla Robot https://youtu.be/HUP6Z5voiS8 Tesla Civilians in Space https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AWkUBFbpTQ Tesla Dancing Car https://www.youtube.com/watch…
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2 Ave Joes S01E05: Forced Mandates, George Bush is Insane, Bad Elections and The Real Story of January 6, 2021
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Ken Beyer is back! Ken is a small business owner, an inventor, and an innovator who took the leap of faith and trust in his Lord Jesus Christ. Ken is a Front Line Patriot who leads the charge, riding into the storm knowing that Jesus will provide the Protection, People, Knowledge, Skill, Desire, and Opportunity to do his will. See more about Ken’s …
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2 Ave Joes S01E04: The Vax, Forced Mandates, Time to Free America and School Boards Gone Crazy
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Today’s guest, Ken Beyer is a small business owner, an inventor, and an innovator who took the leap of faith and trust in his Lord Jesus Christ. Ken is a Front Line Patriot who leads the charge, riding into the storm knowing that Jesus will provide the Protection, People, Knowledge, Skill, Desire, and Opportunity to do his will. See more about Ken’…
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2 Avg Joes Ep S01E03: Afghanistan Fiasco, Reawakening America in Grand Rapids, & Independent Media
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Welcome to 2AJs' third episode. We are excited and grateful you can join us. In today’s episode, Two Average Joes, Robert (Joey) Baker and Joseph St. John, will discuss the stories happening today. This includes: The Afghanistan Crisis The Reawakening America Tour in Grand Rapids, Michigan The Need for Independent Media and Your Support The followi…
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2 Avg Joes S01E02: Meeting the Two Average Joes
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Welcome to our “origin” podcast. Discover how Two Average Joes decided to take on the world. This video will tell you all you need to know and more. Learn how Joe and Joe decided to fight for truth, justice and the America way without wearing capes. It is all here in this tantalizing new video. Also, check out our website: https://twoaveragejoes.co…
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Two Avg Joes episode S01E01: Afghanistan Fiasco - Vax Confusion & Justice in America
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Welcome to 2AJs first episode. We are excited and grateful you can join us. In today’s episode, Two Average Joes, Robert (Joey) Baker and Joseph St. John, will discuss the story happening today. This includes: Why You Don’t Get Your Health Advice from Life Time Steroid Users The Afghanistan Crisis and Justice in America The following links will tak…
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The Story of Two Average Joes Robert Baker and Joseph St. John were raised in Newport News, VA during the 1970s. Living less than a mile apart and attending the same school, Willis A. Jenkins Elementary, Robert and Joe met in 3rd grade when Robert, who was known as Joey back then, moved to the neighborhood. As a matter of fact, they met the first d…
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