Security Conversations covers the business of cybersecurity, from the lens of veteran journalist and storyteller Ryan Naraine. Thoughtful conversations with security practitioners on threat intelligence, zero trust, securing cloud deployments, penetration testing, bug bounties, advancements in offensive research and targeted malware espionage activity. Connect with Ryan on Twitter (Open DMs).
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Welcome to “In the News - Conversations Around Security”, the podcast where we examine the news through a security lens. Tune in for an engaging and informative conversation about the future of security. And don’t forget to subscribe to our channel, like us, and leave comments below. We would love to hear your thoughts and feedback. Thanks for listening
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Ep6: After CrowdStrike chaos, should Microsoft kick EDR agents out of Windows kernel?
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Three Buddy Problem - Episode 6: As the dust settles on the CrowdStrike incident that blue-screened 8.5 million Windows computers worldwide, we dig into CrowdStrike’s preliminary incident report, the lack of transparency in the update process and the need for more robust testing and validation. We also discuss Microsoft's responsibility to avoid in…
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In the News E12 - Is Antisemitism in Canada a National Security Threat?
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Welcome to another episode of In the News, your source for in-depth analysis of the most pressing geopolitical events. Today, we tackle a crucial and sensitive topic: the alarming rise of antisemitism in Canada and its nexus to national security. As tensions in Gaza escalate, we’re seeing ripple effects here at home, with foreign interference poten…
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Ep5: CrowdStrike's faulty update shuts down global networks
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Three Buddy Problem - Episode 5: Hot off the press, we dive into the news of the CrowdStrike software update that caused blue screens on computers worldwide, the resulting chaos and potential connections to the Microsoft 365 outage, the fragility of modern computing and the risks of new software paradigms. We also discuss the AT&T mega-breach and t…
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Ep4: The AT&T mega-breach, iPhone mercenary spyware, Microsoft zero-days
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Three Buddy Problem - Episode 4: The boys delve into the massive AT&T call logs breach, the Snowflake incidents and the notion of shared-fate/shared responsibilities; news on fresh Apple notifications about mercenary spyware on iPhones and the effectiveness of notifications for different types of controversial targets. Plus, thoughts on Microsoft's…
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Ep3: Dave Aitel joins debate on nation-state hacking responsibilities
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The 'Three Buddy Problem' Podcast Episode 3: Former NSA computer scientist Dave Aitel (Immunity Inc., Cordyceps Systems) joins Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade for a frank discussion on the OpenSSH unauthenticated remote code execution vulnerability and the challenges around patching and exploitation, the CISA 'secure-by-design' pledge and its impact on …
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Ep2: A deep-dive on disrupting and exposing nation-state malware ops
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The 'Three Buddy Problem' Podcast Episode 2: Ryan Naraine, Costin Raiu and Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade go all-in on the discussion around Google Project Zero disrupting counter-terrorism malware operations. A deep dive on disruption vs exposure, the effects of US government sanctions on private mercenary hacking companies, hypocricy and the tricky r…
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Ep1: The Microsoft Recall debacle, Brad Smith and the CSRB, Apple Private Cloud Compute
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Welcome to Episode 1 of a brand new cybersecurity podcast discussing the biggest news stories of the week. Ryan Naraine hosts a fast-moving conversation with Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade (LABScon) and Costin Raiu (Art of Noh) on the Microsoft Recall debacle, the dark patterns emerging as big-tech embraces AI, Brad Smith's testimony and the lingering …
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Welcome to “In the News: Conversations Around Security,” where we dive deep into pressing issues affecting public safety. In today’s episode, we explore the growing trend of protest encampments and the security risks they pose. From urban spaces to grassroots movements, we’ll discuss how these camps impact both residents and the broader community. …
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E10 Unlocking the Security Dilemma: Addressing Risks and Regulations
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In this riveting episode of "In the News - Conversations Around Security," we dive deep into Ontario's security landscape with esteemed guest Paul Carson from the Security Guard Association of Ontario. Tune in as we dissect the pressing issue of the absence of standards and regulations within the security sector, a concern that's fostering heighten…
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In the News E9 Foreign Influence in Canada
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In this episode we dive into a complex and timely issue: foreign influence on Canada. There's growing concern about the influence of foreign powers over Canada, particularly in recent elections. The leveraging of hybrid warfare which combines traditional military means with cyberattacks, disinformation campaigns, and social media manipulation, are …
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IntheNewsE8 - Global Events Impacting Local Public Safety
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In this episode, we delve into the intricate interplay between global events and their profound impact on local public safety. Join us as we dissect the complex web of connections between international affairs and everyday security concerns. Our discussion uncovers how events on the world stage reverberate within our communities, influencing polici…
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Cris Neckar on the early days of securing Chrome, chasing browser exploits
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Episode sponsors: Binarly, the supply chain security experts (https://binarly.io) XZ.fail backdoor detector (https://xz.fail) Cris Neckar is a veteran security researcher now working as a partner at Two Bear Capital. In this episode, he reminisces on the early days of hacking at Neohapsis, his time on the Google Chrome security team, shenanigans at…
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Costin Raiu joins the XZ Utils backdoor investigation
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Episode sponsors: Binarly, the supply chain security experts (https://binarly.io) XZ.fail backdoor detector (https://xz.fail) Malware paleontologist Costin Raiu returns for an emergency episode on the XZ Utils software supply chain backdoor. We dig into the timeline of the attack, the characteristics of the backdoor, affected Linux distributions, a…
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IntheNewsE7B Managing Protests & Public Safety Part 2
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In the News hosts Luciano Cedrone and Brian Claman bring back retired Toronto Police Superintendent Bill Neadles to talk about the challenges of prioritizing public safety in the face of large, disruptive and often confrontational protests that have been popping up across the country since the Oct 7th attacks on Israel and the on-going war in Gaza.…
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IntheNewsE6A Managing Protests & Public Safety Part 1
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In the News hosts Luciano Cedrone and Brian Claman bring back retired Toronto Police Superintendent Bill Neadles to talk about the challenges of prioritizing public safety in the face of large, disruptive and often confrontational protests that have been popping up across the country since the Oct 7th attacks on Israel and the on-going war in Gaza.…
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In the News E5 Hamas - Implications for Canada Part 2
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On Oct 7, 2023, Hamas unleashed the biggest surprise attack in Israel's history. In this episode we bring you important insights and analysis about the conflict from one of Canada's foremost resources on intelligence; Phil Gurski. Our hosts, Luciano Cedrone and Brian Claman talk with Phil about the implications of Hamas’ surprise attack on Israel, …
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Katie Moussouris on building a different cybersecurity businesses
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Episode sponsors: Binarly, the supply chain security experts (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Katie Moussouris founded Luta Security in 2016 and bootstrapped it into a profitable business with a culture of equity and healthy boundaries. She is a pioneer in the world of bug bounties and vulnerability disclosure and serves in multiple…
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Costin Raiu: The GReAT exit interview
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Episode sponsors: Binarly, the supply chain security experts (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Costin Raiu has spent a lifetime in anti-malware research, working on some of the biggest nation-state APT cases in history, including Stuxnet, Duqu, Equation Group, Red October, Turla and Lazarus. In this exit interview, Costin digs into w…
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In the News E4 Hamas - Implications for Canada Part 1
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On Oct 7, 2023, Hamas unleashed the biggest surprise attack in Israel's history. In this episode we bring you important insights and analysis about the conflict from one of Canada's foremost resources on intelligence; Phil Gurski. Our hosts, Luciano Cedrone and Brian Claman talk with Phil about the implications of Hamas’ surprise attack on Israel, …
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Danny Adamitis on an 'unkillable' router botnet used by Chinese .gov hackers
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Episode sponsors: Binarly, the supply chain security experts (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Danny Adamitis is a principal information security engineer at Black Lotus Labs, the threat research division within Lumen Technologies. On this episode of the show, we discuss his team's recent discovery of an impossible-to-kill botnet pac…
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E3 of 3 Evolving Observe and Report to Intervention
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Welcome to “In the News - Conversations Around Security”, the podcast where we examine the news through a security lens. In this last of a 3 part series we talk to retired Deputy Chief Chris Fernandes about the evolving needs of security in a world of declining resources and increased need. What do these realities mean for the industry? What are th…
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Allison Miller talks about CISO life, protecting identities at scale
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Episode sponsors: Binarly, the supply chain security experts (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Allison Miller is founder and CEO of Cartomancy Labs and former CISO and VP of Trust at Reddit. She has spent the past 20 years scaling teams and technology at Bank of America, Google, Electronic Arts, PayPal/eBay, and Visa International. I…
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In the News Conversations Around Security - E2 of 3 Evolving Observe and Report to Intervention
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Welcome to “In the News - Conversations Around Security”, the podcast where we examine the news through a security lens. In episode 2, we continue the discussion around the evolving needs of security and the growing changes that are driving the conversation to transitioning from observe and report models towards engagement capable guarding. What co…
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Rob Ragan on the excitement of AI solving security problems
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Rob Ragan, principal architect and security strategist at Bishop Fox, joins the show to share insights on scaling pen testing, the emergence of bug bounty programs, the value of attack surface management, and the role of AI in cybersecurity. We dig into the importance of pro…
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Episode 1 - Transition Observe and Report to Engagement
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Welcome to “In the News - Conversations Around Security”, the podcast where we examine the news through a security lens. In this episode, we explore the transition from observe and report security to engagement capable guarding. What does this mean, and why is it important? And what are the benefits and challenges of this shift for the security sec…
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Seth Spergel on venture capital bets in cybersecurity
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Seth Spergel is managing partner at Merlin Ventures, where he is responsible for identifying cutting-edge companies for Merlin to partner with and invest in. In this episode, Seth talks about helping startups target US federal markets, the current state of deal sizes and val…
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Dan Lorenc on fixing the 'crappy' CVE ecosystem
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Dan Lorenc is CEO and co-founder of Chainguard, a company that raised $116 million in less than two years to tackle open source supply chain security problems. In this episode, Dan joins Ryan to chat about the demands of building a "growth mode" startup, massive funding roun…
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Cisco Talos researcher Nick Biasini on chasing APTs, mercenary hackers
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Nick Biasini has been working in information security for nearly two decades. In his current role as head of outreach for Cisco Talos Intelligence Group, he leads a team of threat researchers tasked with tracking nation-state APTs, mercenary hacker groups and ransomware cybe…
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Allison Nixon on disturbing elements in cybercriminal ecosystem
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Allison Nixon is Chief Researcher at Unit 221B and a trailblazer in the world of cybercrime research. In this episode, we deep-drive into the shadowy dynamics of underground criminal communities, high-profile ransomware attacks, teenage hacking groups breaking into big compa…
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Dakota Cary on China's weaponization of software vulnerabilities
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Dakota Cary is a nonresident fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Global China Hub, conducting research on China’s efforts to develop its hacking capabilities, artificial-intelligence and cybersecurity research at Chinese universities, the People’s Liberation Army’s efforts to a…
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Abhishek Arya on Google's AI cybersecurity experiments
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Abhishek Arya is director of engineering at Google, overseeing open source and supply chain security efforts that include OSS-Fuzz, SLSA, GUAC and OSV DB. In this episode, Arya talks about some early success experimenting with AI and LLMs on fuzzing and vulnerability managem…
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Dr Sergey Bratus on the 'citizen science' of hacking
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Dr Sergey Bratus is a Research Associate Professor of Computer Science at Dartmouth College and a program manager at DARPA. In this episode, he discusses his pioneering work on securing parsers and patching long-forgotten devices. He also puts the AI hype into context and sh…
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DARPA's Perri Adams on CTF hacking, new $20M AI Cyber Challenge
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) DARPA program manager Perri Adams joins the conversation to chat about her love for CTF hacking competitions, the hunt for leapfrog security technologies in DARPA’s Information Innovation Office (I2O), and the goal of the new AI Cyber Challenge (AIxCC) offering $20 million i…
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Ryan Hurst on tech innovation and unsolved problems in security
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Peculiar Ventures chief executive Ryan Hurst joins the show to talk about a career that spanned 20 years at Microsoft and Google, his work building the plumbing for encryption on the web, unsolved problems in BGP security, the hype and promise of AI, and Microsoft's ongoing …
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Jason Chan on Microsoft's security problems, layoffs and startups
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Bessemer Venture Partner's Jason Chan returns to the show for a frank discussion on the state of cyber, including thoughts on Microsoft's prominent security failures, the meaning of layoffs hitting security teams, the excitement around AI, and the long road ahead. The former…
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GitHub security chief Mike Hanley on secure coding, AI and SBOMs
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) GitHub security chief Mike Hanley joins the show to discuss merging the CSO and SVP/Engineering roles, securing data and code in an organization under constant attack, the thrilling promise of AI to the future of secure code, the dangers of equating SBOMs to supply chain sec…
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Jason Shockey, Chief Information Security Officer, Cenlar FSB
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Cenlar FSB security chief Jason Shockey joins the show to discuss the task of securing a financial institution, pivoting from a career in the military to the private sector, the current state of the job market, managing risk from APTs, and the mission of his My Cyberpath pro…
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Federico Kirschbaum on a life in the Argentina hacking scene
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Kymberlee Price reflects on life at the MSRC, hacker/vendor engagement, bug bounties
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Product security executive Kymberlee Price joins the show to gab about life in the trenches at the Microsoft Security Response Center (MSRC), the challenges of maintaining healthy hacker/vendor relationships, the harsh realities of bug-bounty programs, and thoughts on the cy…
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OpenSSF GM Omkhar Arasaratnam on open-source software security
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) New General Manager of the Open Source Security Foundation (OpenSSF) Omkhar Arasaratnam joins Ryan for a candid conversation on the challenges surrounding open-source software security, lessons from the Log4j crisis, the value of SBOMs, and the U.S. government efforts at sec…
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Serial entrepreneur Rishi Bhargava on building another cybersecurity company
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Rishi Bhargava and the team of entrepreneurs behind Demisto’s $560 million exit are back at it with a new startup building technology in the customer identity market. The new company, called Descope, raised an abnormally large $53 million seed-stage funding round with ambiti…
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Claude Mandy on CISO priorities, data security principles
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Sidra Ahmed Lefort dishes on VC investments and cyber uncertainties
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Paul Roberts on wins and losses in the 'right to repair' battle
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) SecuRepairs.org co-founder Paul Roberts joins the show to discuss his passion for the right to repair consumer electronic devices, the big-ticket lobbyists working to undermine the movement, and how changing consumer spending patterns are helping to rack up regulatory wins. …
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Katie Moussouris on where bug bounties went wrong
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Luta Security founder and chief executive Katie Moussouris joins the show to dish on the bug-bounty ecosystem, the abuse of hacker labor, and the common mistakes made by even the most mature security programs. A security industry pioneer, Moussouris argues for better use of …
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Robinhood CSO Caleb Sima on a career in the security trenches
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Caleb Sima is a cybersecurity lifer now responsible for security at Robinhood, a mobile stock trading platform. Caleb joins Ryan on the show to discuss the early hacking scene in Atlanta, building SPI Dynamics in a webapp security powerhouse, the evolution of attack surfaces…
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Charlie Miller on hacking iPhones, Macbooks, Jeep and Self-Driving Cars
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Episode sponsors: Binarly (https://binarly.io) FwHunt (https://fwhunt.run) Famed hacker Charlie Miller joins Ryan on the podcast to discuss a career in vulnerability research and software exploitation. Charlie talks about hacking iPhones and Macbooks at Pwn2Own, the 'No More Free Bugs' campaign, the Jeep hack that led to a recall and his current wo…
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JAG-S on big-game malware hunting and a very mysterious APT
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Episode sponsors: Binarly and FwHunt - Protecting devices from emerging firmware and hardware threats using modern artificial intelligence. SentinelLabs malware hunter Juan Andres Guerrero-Saade (JAG-S) returns to the show to discuss how big-game attribution has changed over the years, the nation-state APT landscape, Mudge and the nightmares facing…
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Chainguard's Dan Lorenc gets real on software supply chain problems
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Episode sponsors: Binarly and FwHunt - Protecting devices from emerging firmware and hardware threats using modern artificial intelligence. Dan Lorenc and a team or ex-Googlers raised $55 million in early-stage funding to build technology to secure software supply chains. On this episode of the show, Dan joins Ryan to talk about the different faces…
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Vinnie Liu discusses a life in the offensive security trenches
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A conversation with Bishop Fox chief executive Vinnie Liu on the origins and evolution of the pentest services business, the emerging continuous attack surface management space, raising $75m as a 'growth mode' investment, cybersecurity's people problem, and much more... Links: Vinnie Liu on LinkedIn Vinnie Liu at MS BlueHat v8 Anti-Drone Tools Test…
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