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078 - Micha Boyett and Blessed Are the Rest of Us
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Today I get to spend some time talking with Micha Boyett. We talk about her newest book, Blessed Are the Rest of Us. She shares about how her son with Down Syndrome and Autism gave her a new perspective on flourishing within limits and redefining the norms of society. We talk about reading the Beatitudes as a poem, and what it looks like to pursue …
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077 - Jon Huckins and Journey Home Pilgrimages
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Jon Huckins is the co founder of Global Immersion, a peacemaking training organization, and was the co-director until 2023. He is now the founder of Journey Home and Adjunct Professor of New Testament at Point Loma Nazarene University. Jon and I talk about vocational shifts, the performative nature of the way we found ourselves doing our work, his …
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076 - Keri Ladouceur Talks About Mutual Flourishing for Israelis and Palestinians
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Keri Ladouceur joins us today to talk about mutual flourishing for Israelis and Palestinians. Keri is the Executive Director of the Post Evangelical Collective and hosts A Third Way Podcast. She has been hosting a series on her podcast on a Christian Perspective on Peace in the Middle East. After a short conversation about why these conversations m…
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075- The Divine Conspiracy Chapter 10
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We're finishing up our time together in The Divine Conspiracy Project this week as we cover the last chapter, chapter 10. We don't have a guest this week, and Mike tackles the chapter alone and then offers some reflections on re-engaging this book over the past few months. We talk a bit about the loss of a future hope for post-evangelicals as it re…
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074 - The Divine Conspiracy: Chapter 9 with Justin Morgan
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We’re getting close to the end of our time in the Divine Conspiracy and joining us today in one of the final chapters is Justin Morgan. Justin is the pastor of Church on Morgan (which is not named after him…which we talk about in the episode). One of the reasons we wanted to have Justin on for this specific chapter is because Willard lays out some …
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073 - The Divine Conspiracy: Chapter 8 with John Ortberg
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John Ortberg joins us on the podcast today as we continue on in the Divine Conspiracy Project, looking at Chapter 8 of the book. John is a pastor, author, and speaker. He’s been in ministry for over 40 years and teaches around a central theme of spiritual formation. John is a deep believer that the main thing God gets out of your life is the person…
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072 - The Divine Conspiracy: Chapter 7 with Jeremy Jernigan
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Jeremy Jernigan joins us on the podcast this week to discuss Chapter 7 of The Divine Conspiracy as we continue in The Divine Conspiracy Project. Jeremy is the founder of Communion Wine Co, he leads the Cabernet and Pray podcast, and is known as “The Wine Pastor”. Jeremy and I talk about a wide array of topics that this chapter brought up for us - d…
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071 - The Divine Conspiracy: Chapter 6 with Steve Carter
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Steve Carter- The Divine Conspiracy Ch 6 (071) Steve Carter joins us on the podcast again today. Steve is the best selling author of the book, The Thing Beneath the Thing, he hosts a podcast about the intersection of the craft of preaching and who we are becoming called Craft and Character, he’s a coach to communicators, and is a Teaching Pastor at…
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070 - The Divine Conspiracy Project: Chapter 5 with Michael Hidalgo
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Michael Hidalgo- The Divine Conspiracy Ch 5 (070) Michael Hidalgo joins us today to continue in our discussion on The Divine Conspiracy. Michael is the Lead Pastor of Denver Community Church, the author of Unlost: Being Found by the One We Are Looking For and Changing Faith: Questions, Doubts and Choices About the Unchanging God, the host of “The C…
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069 - The Divine Conspiracy Project: Chapter 4 - with Jason Adam Miller
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Jason Miller joins us on the podcast again, this time to talk about Chapter 5 of the Divine Conspiracy, where Willard (and Jason) unpack the Beatitudes for us. Jason is a pastor who never quite felt at home in church, an artist who figured out the sermon is his song, and a teacher who still has some questions. he studied theology in the graduate sc…
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069 - The Divine Conspiracy Project: Chapter 4 with Jason Adam Miller
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Jason Miller joins us on the podcast again, this time to talk about Chapter 5 of the Divine Conspiracy, where Willard (and Jason) unpack the Beatitudes for us. Jason is a pastor who never quite felt at home in church, an artist who figured out the sermon is his song, and a teacher who still has some questions. he studied theology in the graduate sc…
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068 - The Divine Conspiracy Project: Chapter 3 with Aaron Niequist
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Aaron Niequist is a liturgist, writer, and pastor currently living in New York City. He is the creator of A New Liturgy, founder of Pastors, Priests and Guides and the author of The Eternal Current. Aaron and I shared together in his first earthquake, which hit New York while recording this podcast. But we also talk about understanding God’s presen…
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067 - The Divine Conspiracy Project: Chapter 2 with Brian Zahnd
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Brian Zahnd joins us again on the podcast to engage in the third chapter of the Divine Conspiracy. Brian is the founder and lead pastor of Word of Life Church in St. Joseph, Missouri. He’s also a pastor-theologian who has authored eleven books, including most recently The Wood Between the Worlds. BZ and I briefly talk about his new book, the unique…
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066 - The Divine Conspiracy Project: Intro & Chapter 1 with Sean Palmer
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Sean Palmer joins us today to delve into the first chapter of The Divine Conspiracy. Sean is an enneagram theorist, a preacher and a pastor, a speaking coach and author. He’s currently the Teaching Pastor at Ecclesia Houston, and most recently is the author of Speaking by the Numbers. Sean and I talk about how the Divine Conspiracy helped to give J…
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065 - The Divine Conspiracy Project: Overview with Jan Johnson
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Jan Johnson is an author, speaker, college professor, and spiritual director. Amongst the many books she's written, she co-authored the Study Guide for the Divine Conspiracy. Jan also serves in leadership for the Dallas Willard School of Kingdom Living. She is someone who knew Dallas well, has been interacting with the ideas from the Divine Conspir…
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064 - Introducing The Divine Conspiracy Project
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Buy The Divine Conspiracy Reading Plan and Other Resources -------------------------------------------- To help support me and my work, which includes this podcast, you can make tax-deductible donations to: “WE Ministries” And mail it to: Mike Goldsworthy 6285 E. Spring St #474 Long Beach, CA 90808By mike goldsworthy
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where the space for faith podcast has been the past several months...what will it look like this year...and a few reflections from some of my learnings this past yearBy mike goldsworthy
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062 - Meredith Miller -Nurturing a Faith Your Kid Doesn’t Have to Heal From
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Meredith Miller is a pastor and parent who helps grownups, and the kids they love, engage with the Bible and faith in ways that are life-giving, fun, and a fit for their real lives. We talk about why it's a more helpful goal for kids to develop trust with God than obedience, what God-centered storytelling looks like, Moral Therapeutic Deism, and a …
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061 - Jason Adam Miller - When the World Breaks
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Jason Miller joins us on the podcast today where we talk about the way we read the Beatitudes as a transformative way forward when we suffer rather than an expectation that creates heavier burdens. He paints us a picture of the beauty of what it begins to look like when we let these blessings of Jesus do their work. Check our Jason's new book, When…
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060 - Scot McKnight - The Second Testament
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Scot McKnight is the Julius R. Mantey Chair of New Testament at Northern Seminary. He's the author of numerous books including Jesus Creed, Blue Parakeet, King Jesus Gospel and A Church Called Tov, which he co-authored with his daughter Laura Barringer. Today we're talking about a new New Testament translation that Scot has completed that will be r…
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059 - Andrew Lang - Unmasking the Inner Critic
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Andrew Lang joins us on the podcast today. Many of the people who join us here to talk about faith are coming out of experiences from a more conservative tradition. Andrew is a bit different in that he's coming from a more progressive tradition and along the way finds the significance and beauty of the contemplative tradition. We talk about depth a…
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058 - Mike Foster - The Seven Primal Questions
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Mike Foster is known as the Mr. Rogers of self-development. He’s a best-selling author, speaker, and executive coach empowering people to build strong lives by turning their setbacks into superpowers. We spend some time today understanding our primal question, how it helps us to understand ourselves in ways that unlocks places where we’re stuck, gi…
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057 - Casey Tygrett - The Gift of Restlessness
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Casey Tygrett is a pastor, a spiritual director and author. He has degrees and certifications and all of the stuff. But, what you need to know is that he's incredibly thoughtful, intuitive and generous. His newest book (releasing today) called The Gift of Restlessness was such a gift to me. I think you're going to appreciate the book and the conver…
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056 - Justin McRoberts and Sacred Strides- The Journey to Belovedness in Work and Rest
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It's been a bit, but we've got several new episodes recorded that you'll be getting over the next several weeks. Today, Justin McRoberts joins us again on the podcast to talk to us about finding our belovedness in our work and our rest. We talk about my Sabbath and Retirement rants, finding contentment in the actual life I'm living, and moving beyo…
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055 - Dave Davis - Changing Metrics, Vocational Shifts and Faith Evolution
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Dave Davis joins us on the podcast today. We talk about the experience of your faith shifting while you’re on church staff, about changing metrics in the church, and some thoughts for those of you in ministry who are considering vocational shifts. Dave Davis has been coaching leaders, leading organizations and bringing clarity to the confused for m…
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054 - Jonathan Foster - A Theology of Consent
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Jonathan Foster and I talk about René Girard’s mimetic theory and scapegoating, how God operates with consent and love as non-scapegoating, non-violent, non-binary. Check out Jonathan’s new book, Theology of Consent And find him on the internets here ————— To help support me and my work, particularly with post-evangelical churches, you can make tax…
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Blain Hogan joins us today to talk about Happy Friday Dance Parties, the work of uncovering your story, the tension of knowing what you want to create while also creating space for feedback, how paying attention to the particulars of our story helps us to connect more universally, and how we can change our past. Blaine Hogan is a writer, film and c…
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052 - Peter Choi + Jonathan Merritt [Post Evangelical Collective 2022]
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Peter Choi's talk from the Post Evangelical Collective 2022 in Denver, CO. Jonathan Merritt closes out our time together with EucharistBy mike goldsworthy
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051 - Eric Wilson + David Gushee [Post Evangelical Collective 2022]
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Eric Wilson's spoken word and David Gushee's talk at the 2022 Post Evangelical Collective in Denver, COBy mike goldsworthy
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050 - Gail Song Bantum [Post Evangelical Collective 2022]
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Gail Song Bantum's opening talk at the 2022 Post Evangelical Collective in Denver, COBy mike goldsworthy
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049 - Peter Choi and the Dynamism and Movement of Faith
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Peter Choi is Director of the Center for Faith and Justice, Associate Professor of American Christianity, and a member of the Core Doctoral Faculty at the Graduate Theological Union in Berkeley. He spends some time talking to us about the way evangelicalism is understood and defined, the dynamism of our faith, and the way we engage the Scriptures a…
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048 - Kan’Dace Brock & Zach Lambert - New Life From Previous Institutions
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On today’s episode, we’re joined by Kan’Dace Brock & Zach Lambert who talk with us about the ethos of the churches that they’ve each been a part of planting, the ways that people use money to try and control outcomes with Christian institutions, a vision for a seminary that is multi and inter-denominational as well as scholarly and practical, and h…
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Mallory Wyckoff joins us on the podcast today. Mallory is a teacher, preacher, writer, and spiritual director. She serves as key relationships officer with Preemptive Love, a global community of peacemakers working to end war and stop the spread of violence. Having completed her dissertation on the impact of sexual trauma on survivors’ theological …
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046 - Dan Lowery and Theological Education for Tomorrow’s Church
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We are joined today by the President of Pillar Seminary, Dan Lowery. We spend some time talking about your life and calling taking you into unexpected vocations places, the future of seminary, ecumenical spaces, and creating space in seminary and the church for help people learn to think rather than be told what to think. Check our Pillar Seminary …
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We're doing something a bit different on the space for faith podcast today and broadcasting a sermon Mike recently preached at South Bend City Church. We walk through the double healing of the blind man in Mark 8, recognizing that sometimes in our faith journey we need to see, but not clearly before our eyes can be opened to see clearly and in focu…
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044 - Jeff Lockyer - Approaching the Gaps in Ministry
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Jeff Lockyer is the Lead Pastor of Southridge, one of the largest churches in Canada, eh. I love the way he thinks about gaps in the church and how to close them; the way his church does many similar things to other churches their size, but the heart and motivation behind them is very different; the way he thinks about operationalizing ministry con…
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043 - Jared Byas - Jonah for Normal People
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Jared Byas is the cohost of the popular The Bible for Normal People podcast. He previously served as a pastor, but he continues the work of helping people find and save their faith by introducing them to honest engagement with the Scriptures. I loved his previous book, Love Matters More. Today we talk about his newest book, Jonah for Normal People,…
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042 - Angie Hong - Experimental Liturgies & Diverse Voices
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Angie Hong is a worship leader, writer and speaker based in Durham, NC. She is also a co-founder of Kinship Commons, creating resources to equip worship cultivators of color, which is one thing we'll discuss in this episode. Angie and I talk about the pressure that is often put on worship leaders of color when significant events that gain national …
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041 - Nancy Beach & Samantha Beach Kiley - Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church
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Nancy Beach and Samantha Beach Kiley share with us about their new book, Next Sunday: An Honest Dialogue About the Future of the Church. They show us what it looks like to have humility about the way we think about God and the church, being open to seeing things through others' perspectives. I think this will be an important book at opening up a cr…
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040 - Kevin Sweeney - The Making of a Mystic
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Kevin Sweeney is the co-founder and pastor of Imagine Hawaii and the author of The Making of a Mystic. We talk about what authenticity and integrity will cost you, what it is to be a mystic and the integration of those experiences into the normalcy of life, and the process he's going through of learning to let go as Imagine moves towards its final …
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039 - Rob Schenck - A Third Conversion, The Religious Right, & Dietrich Bonhoeffer
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Rob Schenck is a public theologian and founder of The Dietrich Bonhoeffer Institute in Washington DC. Formerly, Rob had been significantly involved in a high public platform in the Religious Right until he went through his own journey of his faith evolving. Rob talks to us about the intersection of power and having a public faith platform, how Abig…
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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Post-Evangelical Collective, Oct 11-12, 2022
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If you are a pastor, artist, or other church leader who feels connected to the post-evangelical space – which is to say that you have felt ecclesiologcally homeless in the larger church landscape. Not quite sure where you fit, but you’re not ready to give up on the church and you’re a part of reimagining what it looks like for our current moment. I…
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038 - Sean Palmer - Speaking by the Numbers
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Today’s space for faith episode has a little bit of everything with Sean Palmer. It starts early with Sean comparing Taylor Swift with Shakespeare and quickly moves to talking about the Enneagram, cancel culture, Power over persuasion as the normal experience culturally and in the church, the church recapturing the ability to have difficult convers…
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037 - Aaron Niequist - New Liturgies, Formation & a Retreat
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Aaron Niequist is a liturgist, writer and pastor currently living in NYC. Having led worship at Mars Hill, and Willow Creek, Aaron has created A New Liturgy, written The Eternal Current, and leads the Pastors, Priests and Guides Retreat. Aaron and I talk about his movement from being an evangelical megachurch worship leader to becoming more oriente…
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036 - Sarah Swartzendruber - Parenting After Deconstruction
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Sarah is a Co-Pastor and founder of Cascade PDX. In her pastoring work, she began to discover parents who had gone through their own deconstruction process who were trying to figure out how to engage in their kid's faith development. In addition to pastoring, she began to lead cohorts for parents who are trying to figure that out. We have a great c…
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035 - Matthew Vines Talks about the Church, Discipleship, Scripture and Becoming LGBTQ Inclusive
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Mathew Vines, author of God and the Gay Christian and founder of The Reformation Project joins us today. We talk about the church and why it still matters, not losing discipleship in the midst of reevaluating your beliefs, how you can hold onto a high view of Scripture while becoming affirming of Same-Sex Marriages and he tells us a little of the s…
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034 - Gail Song Bantum and Brian Bantum - Choosing Us
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Gail Song Bantum and Brian Bantum join us on the podcast today. Gail is the Lead Pastor of Quest Church in Seattle and Brian is a Professor of Theology at Garrett Seminary. We spend some time talking about what it's like for Gail to be a woman leading a church, about Brian's work on the Mulatto Jesus, and then we get into creating space for mutual …
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033 - Todd Deatherage - Peacemaking as Discipleship and the Telos Group
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Todd Deatherage spent sixteen years in senior positions in the legislative and executive branches of the U.S. government before co-founding the Telos Group. From 2005 to 2009, he was Chief of Staff in the Secretary of State’s Office of Policy Planning at the U.S. State Department. He also spent two years as Senior Advisor in the Department’s Office…
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Miley Waterman is the CEO of Brave Global, an organization working to empower vulnerable girls in partnership with churches and local communities and organizations. Miley is also an event producer and helped to run the Post Evangelical Pastor and Church Leader Gathering that we held last October. We talk about that gathering, about doing preventati…
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Recently when Brian Zahnd was on the podcast he ended his time by leading us through a prayer that he uses as he moves into a contemplative prayer that he calls sitting with Jesus. We've taken that prayer and posted it here so that you can use it on your own - to be led in a formative prayer that can help set up your own times of contemplative …
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