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Driving the Discussion in Fatty Liver Disease. Join hepatology researcher and Key Opinion Leader Jörn Schattenberg, Liver Wellness Advocate Louise Campbell, and Forecasting and Pricing Guru Roger Green and a global group of Key Opinion Leaders and patient advocates as they discuss key issues in Fatty Liver disease, including epidemiology, drug development, clinical pathways, non-invasive testing, health economics and regulatory issues, from their own unique perspectives on the Surfing the MA ...
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Vision To Prevent and Cure Liver Disease Mission To advance and disseminate the science and practice of hepatology, and to promote liver health and quality patient care AASLD is the leading organization of scientists and healthcare professionals committed to preventing and curing liver disease. AASLD was founded in 1950 by a small group of leading liver specialists (including Hans Popper, Leon Schiff, Fred Hoffbauer, Cecil Watson, Jesse Bollman, and Sheila Sherlock, to name a few) to bring t ...
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This week's vault conversation looks back 17 months when Ken Cusi joined co-hosts Louise Campbell, Jörn Schatenberg and Roger Green to discuss the revised AASLD Practice Guidance that had been issued the previous week. At the time, here was SurfingMASH's summary of the conversation: Late last week, AASLD published new practice guidance on the clini…
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This week, Surfing the MASH Tsunami looks back on interviews Roger Green conducted during the EASL Congress itself. This conversation with SurfingMASH co-host and Tawazun Health Founder and Clinical Director Louise Campbell took place on the last day of the Congress. This conversation centered on three major topics addressed at the EASL Congress, e…
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This week, Surfing the MASH Tsunami looks back on interviews Roger Green conducted during the EASL Congress itself. This conversation with SurfingMASH co-host and Tawazun Health Founder and Clinical Director Louise Campbell took place on the first day of the Congress. Roger's first interview with Louise took place at the end of Thursday, the openin…
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This week, Surfing the MASH Tsunami looks back on interviews Roger Green conducted during the EASL Congress itself. This conversation with Fatty Liver Alliance Founder and CEO Mike Betel took place Wednesday of Congress week, a day for special sections and industry presentations, but one day before the General Session opened. The first part of the …
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This week’s vault comes from our first episode with Shira Zelber-Sagi. She and Ken Cusi joined us during US Thanksgiving Week 2022 to discuss nutrition and behavioral issues related to MASLD. The episode’s original writeup explains: Surfing the MASH Tsunami hosts its first episode dedicated to nutrition and NASH with distinguished guest, Prof. Shir…
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Co-chairs Shira Zelber-Sagi and Mike Betel and panelists Tom Marjot and José Willemse, all from the EASL Congress session "Patient Experiences in Clinical Settings," join Louise Campbell to the need for resources that allow MASLD patients to access shared experience programs and holistic MASLD support programs. This final conversation focuses on sh…
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Co-chairs Shira Zelber-Sagi and Mike Betel and panelists Tom Marjot and José Willemse, all from the EASL Congress session "Patient Experiences in Clinical Settings," join Louise Campbell to discuss ways that socioeconomic and psychological issues impact the dynamic of the physician-patient consult, and, as a result, often patient adherence to thera…
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Co-chairs Shira Zelber-Sagi and Mike Betel and panelists Tom Marjot and José Willemse, all from the EASL Congress session "Patient Experiences in Clinical Settings," join Louise Campbell to discuss strategies and questioning styles that can improve the dynamic of the physician-patient consult. This conversation starts with Tom stating that having m…
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Co-chairs Shira Zelber-Sagi and Mike Betel and panelists Tom Marjot and José Willemse, all from the EASL Congress session "Patient Experiences in Clinical Settings," join Louise Campbell to discuss some of the key dynamics shaping the physician-patient consult. This conversation starts with Mike asking Tom whether he reviews the patient's history b…
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Co-chairs Shira Zelber-Sagi and Mike Betel and panelists Tom Marjot and José Willemse, all from the EASL Congress session "Patient Experiences in Clinical Settings," join Louise Campbell to provide an overview of issues in physician-patient communication. The conversation itself has two elements. It starts with first-time surfers Tom Marjot and Jos…
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00:00:00 - Surf's Up: Season 5 Episode 23 During SurfingMASH's wrap-up interviews from the EASL Congress (S5 E19), Louise Campbell and Mike Betel mentioned a session Mike co-chaired on challenges in provider-patient communications. Today, the other co-chair, Shira Zelber-Sagi and panelists Tom Marjot and Jose Willemse join Louise and Mike to return…
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In this week's episode, Jeff Lazarus discusses the idea that the MASH community, including patient advocates, live in a "bit of a bubble," where the clinicians with whom they interact are part of the MASH community. Last year's ICER Public Comments session exposed them to an FDA Advisory Board of hepatologists...and it was a very different experien…
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In this closing conversation, Healthy Livers, Healthy Lives Chair Jeff Lazarus and Surfers Jörn Schattenberg, Louise Campbell and Roger Green discuss the upcoming United Nations General Assembly side event and consider ways listeners can support the "Healthy LIvers, Healthy Lives" coalition. Jeff discussed this impact on global care when the World …
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Healthy Livers, Healthy Lives Chair Jeff Lazarus joins Jörn Schattenberg, Louise Campbell and Roger Green to discuss the value of the updated EASL/EASD/EASO MASLD clinical practice guidelines and consider the role of Big Data in early MASLD screening. Roger asks Jeff whether he considers the updated MASLD CPG a step forward. Jeff praises the guidel…
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Healthy Livers, Healthy Lives Chair Jeff Lazarus joins Jörn Schattenberg, Louise Campbell and Roger Green to discuss some of the specific structural challenges that confront global MASLD public policy, along with some promising local activities. Louise observes that, in her experience, primary care practitioners appreciate the support that speciali…
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Healthy Livers, Healthy Lives Chair Jeff Lazarus joins Jörn Schattenberg, Louise Campbell and Roger Green to discuss why political will is so important in overcoming inertia and obstruction in global MASLD public health policy. Louise notes that she left NHS because of obstruction against earlier stage efforts to promote liver health and asks how t…
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Healthy Livers, Healthy Lives Chair Jeff Lazarus joins Jörn Schattenberg, Louise Campbell and Roger Green to discuss how the coalition came into existence and to describe two initiatves aimed at increasing early screening. Jeff starts the conversation by describing the "bit of a bubble" in which the MASLD community lives: great news and lots of exc…
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00:00:00 - Surf's Up: Season 5 Episode 22 Jeff Lazarus joins Jörn Schattenberg, Louise Campbell and Roger Green to discuss Healthy Livers, Healthy Lives, a coalition of four major professional organizations (AASLD, ALEH, APASL and EASL) and other partners. This coalition works with other specialties to create global public health awareness and driv…
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In this closing conversation, updated MASLD CPG co-authors Frank Tacke and Elisabetta Bugianesi and podcast co-hosts Louise Campbell and Roger Green consider what the guidelines might foretell in changes in provider education, structure of patient visits and treatment in less affluent or medically advanced countries. The last set of questions begin…
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For most of this conversation, updated MASLD CPG co-authors Frank Tacke and Elisabetta Bugianesi discuss key issues related to pharmacology and prescribing choices. At the end, the focus shifts to the guidelines' overall benefits and some new kinds of education they call for. The conversation starts with co-host Roger Green asking about key issues …
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In this conversation, updated MASLD CPG co-authors Frank Tacke and Elisabetta Bugianesi discuss some of the guidelines' key goals and issues surrounding the screening, diagnosis and management of MASLD patients. As the conversation starts, co-host Roger Green says that he, too, was impressed that all these adjustments were made within a month at th…
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In this conversation, updated MASLD CPG co-authors Frank Tacke and Elisabetta Bugianesi explain how the guidelines process benefitted from the close collaboration between EASL, EASD, and EASO. The conversation starts with Elisabetta conveying the "big advantage" that came from this collaboration. The presence of the three organizations conveyed the…
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Two of the co-authors of the upgraded MASLD Clinical Practice Guidelines, Elisabetta Bugianesi and Frank Tacke join Louise Campbell and Roger Green to discuss the guidelines. The theme for the conversation is "introductions". First, the audience is introduced to co-authors Elisabetta Bugianesi and Frank Tacke, neither of whom has Surfed the Tsunami…
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00:00:00 - Surf's Up: Season 5 Episode 21 One important session at the EASL Congress 2024 involved the presentation of the new MASLD Clinical Practice Guidelines. CPG co-authors Elisabetta Bugianesi and Frank Tacke join Louise Campbell and Roger Green to share their perspectives on the guidelines' development some key recommendations. 00:09:36 - Re…
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In this conversation from July 2023, Stephen Harrison, Jörn Schattenberg and Roger Green discuss the implications of presentations on the FGF-21 agent efruxifermin and the dual GLP/glucagon agonists pemvidutide and efinopegdutide. Here is the description Roger wrote for the original conversation: In this session, conversation shifts from resmetirom…
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Mazen Noureddin and Naim Alkhouri join Jörn Schattenberg and Roger Green to discuss some of the other major drug development stories from the EASL Congress 2024, with special focus on denifenstat, ION-224 and TAK-227, and to review the SPECIAL study on bariatric surgery and cirrhosis. The panelists concur that all three of these agents have potenti…
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Mazen Noureddin and Naim Alkhouri join Jörn Schattenberg and Roger Green to focus on the role FGF-21s will play in long-term advanced fibrosis treatment: induction or long-term therapy...or might we even think of the class as being able to produce a "MASH cure?" Responding to Naim's comment closing the previous discussion, Mazen questions why we re…
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Naim Alkhouri and Mazen Noureddin join Jörn Schattenberg and Roger Green to discuss issues regarding incretin agonists and results from the efruxiermin late-breaker at the EASL Congress 2024. Naim shares his general excitement about glucagon agents in general. He mentions that the efinopegdutide study included a semaglutide cell, which showed furth…
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Mazen Noureddin and Naim Alkhouri join Jörn Schattenberg and Roger Green to discuss the tirzepatide late-breaker at the EASL Congress 2024 and other "Twin-cretins," all of which are GLP-glucagon combinations. "Twin-cretins" is the name Jörn has coined for agents with a GLP-1 agonist plus another incretin effect. Tirzepatide is a GLP/GIP agent, whil…
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Naim Alkhouri and Mazen Noureddin join Jörn Schattenberg and Roger Green to discuss some of the new research on resmetirom at the EASL Congress 2024. Mazen begins this discussion by covering a paper he presented on Stephen's behalf, looking at dose-response with resmetirom. The analysis indicated that PDFF and histology improvements at the 100mg do…
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00:00:00 Surf's Up, Season 5 Episode 20 Naim Alkhouri and Mazen Noureddin join co-hosts Jörn Schattenberg and Roger Green to discuss major drug development stories from the EASL Congress 2024. They pay tribute to Stephen Harrison and proceed to groundbreakers. 00:08:16 - Presentations on Resmetirom Mazen shares a paper he presented looking at resme…
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00:00:00 - Surf's Up: Season 5 Episode 19 During EASL Congress 2024, US-based Roger Green, conducted interviews with Mike Betel, Louise Campbell (twice) and Sven Francque from Milano. These interviews focused on the major MASLD themes and presentations at the event. 00:04:14 - Conversation with Mike Betel begins On Wednesday, the first afternoon of…
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In this final conversation, Sober Livers leaders Jenn Jones and Beth Lehman share what they hope listeners will take from this discussion of HOPE (Healing Others with Peers and Education) and how they can help this unique support program grow. The conversation starts with Roger asking what Sober Livers and/or transplant centers can do to help patie…
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Sober Livers leaders Jenn Jones and Beth Lehman join Roger Green to discuss HOPE, their new support community for people who have harmed themselves through AUD (Alcohol Use Disorder). This conversation focuses on plans and hopes for the future. Roger starts this conversation by sharing a story from his own experience about the pressure caregivers s…
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In this conversation, Society of Sober LIvers leaders Jenn Jones and Beth Lehman describe the HOPE (Healing Others with Peers and Education) program. They go on to discuss why version 1.0 does not include specific support for caregivers. Jenn describes the program's core elements, starting with a monthly video call that is a support meeting one mon…
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This conversation focuses on the target population of patients with AUD (Alcohol Use Disorder) with decompensated cirrhosis and asks why this group needs a support community like HOPE (Healing Others with Peers and Education). Roger asks what makes people who have harmed their bodies through AUD a unique community as compared to other communities p…
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This conversation re-introduces us to Sober Livers Founder/Visionary Jenn Jones and introduces us to Beth Lehman, Principal Strategic Advisor to Sober Livers and HOPE, a multi-element patient support program for people who have harmed their livers though AUD (Alcohol Use Disorder). As this conversation starts, we meet Beth Lehman, Principal Strateg…
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Roger Green is joined by Sober Livers Founder/Visionary Jenn Jones and Principal Strategic Advisor Beth Lehman to discuss HOPE, a support program launching June 11 for people who have harmed their bodies through ALD and its consequences. 00:00:00 - Surf's Up: Season 5 Episode 18 Standard lead-in, including quotes from panelists 00:02:07 - Introduct…
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This week's Vault looks back to the EASL Congress 2023 and includes Aleksander Krag, Sven Francque and all three surfers: Jörn Schattenberg, Louise Campbell and Roger Green. The focus of this conversation revolves around program design. The original conversation came with a robust description: This conversation starts with Roger’s question to Sven …
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This final conversation from SurfingMASH's EASL Congress 2024 preview includes two final papers, one covering MASLD drug development, and a diverse set of answers to Roger Green's closing question. Jörn Schattenberg discusses a paper he will present on a completely new concept to treat MASLD, a Phase 2a trial of a transglutaminase inhibitor, a comp…
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This conversation revolves largely around two Big Data presentations Hannes Hagstrom's team is sharing at the EASL Congress. Every other panelist has at least one meaningful comment to make about the future of Big Data in MASLD. Hannes describes two big data studies of his own, "very much Big Data, but it's not omics." One examined 860,000 resident…
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This conversation starts with Jörn Schattenberg joining the conversation. The main points are two abstracts, one reviewed by Jörn and the other by Aleksander Krag. As Hannes finishes discussing his abstract, Jörn joins the podcast. While Michelle looks for an abstract she highlighted on which Jörn is an author, Jörn discusses a panel that Hannes wi…
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This conversation starts and ends with thoughts from Michelle Long. Her first comment praises the expanded networking opportunities in the program, and her last comment focuses on the quality of the MASLD abstracts (really, all abstracts) and the importance of reviewing them in advance. Michelle starts by commenting on the networking sessions that …
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This first conversation from our EASL Congress 2024 preview starts with EASL Secretary General Aleksander Krag offering his vision for next week's meeting in Milano, after which Hannes Hagstrom shares some of his thoughts about the meeting design. Aleksander starts by discussing the preparation that has gone into this Congress since the Vienna meet…
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Next week, 7,000+ hepatology stakeholders will convene in Milano, Italy, to consume 2,000+ posters and presentations, including an extensive set of MASLD studies, at EASL Congress 2024. EASL Secretary General Aleksander Krag, Hannes Hagstrom, and Michelle Long join Jörn Schattenberg and Roger Green to preview the program. 00:00:00 - Surf's Up: Seas…
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In this excerpt from last July, Stephen Harrison shares results of the FASCINATE-2 study as part of SurfingMASH's larger coverage of exciting drug trials presented at The EASL Congress. The original writeup reads: This month, Surfing NASH embarks on a series of episodes dedicated to takeaways emerging from June's two major conferences: the 2023 EAS…
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This is the second half of Roger Green's conversation with Dimitar Tonev. It focuses largely on some of the elements of Stephen's personality that made him so unique and a role model within the community. Dimitar discusses one more innovation Stephen brought to MASLD clinical trials: recruiting in neighborhoods that received lower levels of medical…
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The conversation shares the first half of Roger Green's interview with Dimitar Tonev, whose tribute comment to Stephen Roger shared in a recent SurfingMASH weekly newsletter. Because this is Dimitar's first appearance on SurfingMASH, he starts by telling the audience a bit about his history, including the fact that he came to know Stephen from the …
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