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A Podcast dedicated to the show This Is Us on NBC. Join hosts Mary and Blake as they discuss the previous week's episode, This Is Us news and spoilers, as much Listener Feedback as humanly possible, theories, and their favorite moments from the show.
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As a Dauntless Media podcast, this is a companion to Scott's forthcoming book about losing faith while teaching at an evangelical university. This podcast will feature former students and faculty of Azusa Pacific University. They will tell stories of racism, sexism, hatred towards the LGBTQ community, and early alt-right shenanigans. Other guests outside of the APU world will also be invited to share their experiences. Join the growing Chapel Probation community on Instagram, Discord, and Fa ...
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Chapel Probation s4- Maggie Harrigan: Hello Deconstructionists Podcast Host and Gordon College Alumn
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One of the new hosts in the Dauntless Media Collective, Maggie Harrigan is a graduate of Gordon College who came onto Chapel Probation to talk about her experiences there and her life since. She found some good professors and even better friends while at Gordon who helped her to deconstruct her fundamentalist beliefs and forge a new worldview based…
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Chapel Probation s4: The Horny Chapel #4- Marriage and Relationships After Purity Culture
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This week, Priska and Scott dive into marriages and intimate relationships, sharing their own experiences and talking about the harms done by purity culture that keep people from experiencing real connection and wholeness. We share some deeply personal stories and details of our own lives while unpacking all the trauma in general. The Horny Chapel …
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Chapel Probation s4- Blake Chastain: Author of ExVangelical and Beyond
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Long before most of us were a glint in the eye of today's deconstruction world, Blake Chastain created the Exvangelical hashtag and Facebook group, giving the world the title and the framework for the good, bad, and the ugly of all things related to deconstruction. He also started the Irreverent Media Group bringing together so many great podcasts …
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Chapel Probation s4- Desiree McCullough- From SBC Pastors Wife to Sexual Empowerment
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Earlier this year, I read an amazing piece in the Huffington Post about a woman who was once a pastor's wife who left the church and ended up opening up her marriage to explore dating and sexuality for the first time. I immediately thought this woman would fit in beautifully with our Content Warning community...only to discover she had actually bee…
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Chapel Probation s4: Horny Chapel #3 Keiko Agena Talks Purity and Gilmore Girls
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This week we are joined by a special guest, our dear friendKeiko Agena. Keiko is best known for her role as Lane Kim on the show GilmoreGirls, but she is also a writer, artist, and beloved member of our AAPI artsand activist community in Los Angeles. With her own real-life evangelical pastto draw on, she goes deep in analyzing her Lane Kim role as …
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Chapel Probation s4- Hannah Lee: Korean American Church, Ski Pants Demon, and Purity Culture Survivor and Artist
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Hannah Lee knew early on that life inside of her Korean American church was far too restrictive for her. And even though she felt that church life was deeply embedded into life as a Korean American, she saw its limitations as a curious, passionate person who valued art and people outside of the church. From her mom trying to exercise demons who wou…
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Chapel Probation s4- The Horny Chapel Episode 2
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In this second episode, we're still introducing ourselves, and we compare our experiences as Asian Americans from different generations and in different kinds of churches. But there are still incredible similarities between our experiences...bad ones, mostly. Scott's experiences as a Gen X-er in the 80's was less intense than Priska's Millenial exp…
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Chapel Probation s4- Marla Taviano Returns to Talk Poem Art Therapy and Terrible Christian Men
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Marla Taviano returns this week to talk about how her latest book of poetry, Poem Art Therapy, can help all women who've been through terrible marriages and divorces in the christian world. Just as her White Girl Learning work reflects Marla's journey as she decolonizes her mind regarding race, Poem Art Therapy reflects her clap back against patria…
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Chapel Probation s4- Clare McIvor- Australian NAR Homeschooling Survivor
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Clare McIvor grew up in the toxic Christian Nationalist movement known as the New Apostolic Reformation. This included all of those damn 7 Mountains, and it forced her to deny all of the natural aspects of her humanity. After fighting to get out, she has educated herself and armed herself with knowledge and courage to fight against that world and i…
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Chapel Probation Collab- The Horny Chapel Episode 1
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The first episode of the Horny Chapel, a collaboration with Priska of the Two Horny Goats podcast. We introduce this limited series with a look back at our youth and early adulthood and break down the ins and outs, so to speak, of purity culture. And we talk about where this series will go in the coming episodes. In the end, we hope to help everyon…
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Chapel Probation s4- Sheila Chappelle- Freed-Hardiman Pastor to Deconstruction Mentor
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Sheila Chappelle has come such a long way from being a student at an oppressively high control school that had a wild counter culture. She had to remove herself from this environment and ultimately this religion altogether to overcome her finely honed skills of keeping secrets. But she's overcome that by getting sober and transitioning into her tru…
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Chapel Probation s4- Seth- Deconstructed Because of Bob Jones III
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Seth survived 2 years at Bob Jones only because he figured out how to actually live life. But this required a significant amount of deception and rides in trunks of cars, so it was just a matter of time before he asked himself if all the effort was worth it. When he challenged the school's racist prohibition of interracial dating, arguing directly …
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Chapel Probation s4- Peter Hull- The Chapel Probation Champ of Grace College
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We're back with a traditional Chapel Probation episode talking to Peter Hull, a Gen X dude who almost never went to chapel while at Grace College. He only stayed for 5 semesters, but he got a taste of shitty christian higher ed. We talk purity culture and the struggles of finding oneself after faith in the aftermath of Grace College. Here's a link …
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Chapel Probation s4: Christa Brown- SBC Abuse Survivor and Activist for Justice
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Christa Brown was a victim of horrible sexual abuse as a child by her SBC youth pastor. This took place in what she calls, "Baptistland," and this is the title of her incredible book. She writes unflinchingly at her childhood filled with abuse at the hands of said pastor and her family members, but she also pulls herself out of Baptistland to becom…
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Chapel Probation s4- Dave Galvan: Pentecostal Worship to a Life of Real Music in Community
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I knew Dave Galvan as a friend and bandmate for many years before I learned that he grew up in a strict Pentecostal church. And I learned in this episode that Dave led worship with a black Les Paul copy at that church. Epic. When you know people outside of religion, you can just live and enjoy life, so I was a little anxious making Dave go back thr…
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Chapel Probation s4- Mark: The Pentecostal to IVCF to War to Goth Club Pipeline
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Ever since I started this podcast, I've wanted my friend Mark to come on to tell his story. But even more has happened since early 2022, so I'm actually glad he finally agreed to come over and do this. It's a story of a common upbringing in high control pentacostalism to the lighter theologies of Inter Varsity Christian Fellowship at the beginning.…
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Chapel Probation s4 Erica Smith- Sexual Healing After Purity Culture
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Sex educator Erica Smith did not grow up in Purity Culture, but she has learned about how damaging it is for men and women and for society. She has dedicated her life's work to helping people heal from their patriarchal pasts that stunted their development as sexual humans and move forward to explore their bodies and their sexuality. With a deep un…
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Chapel Probation s4- Taz Ahmed: Art, Activism, and Islam for Social Justice
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The first non-Christian guest on Chapel Probation! Hear Scott's pal Tanzila (Taz) Ahmed tell her story and talk about her life of advocating for human flourishing. Her poetry will rock you to the core, and you'll hear her performace from the 2016 AAPI Heritage event at the White House during President Obama's last year. And whatever you know or don…
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Chapel Probation s4 Abraham Kim: Korean PK- Badass Drummer
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When you are the son of a big-time Korean pastor who suffers from narcissism and rage, christianity and life are filled with trauma and despair. But Abraham Kim found music and drums early on to help him deal with life, drumming his response to violence at home and oppression in the church. And he found his way out with the help of Talbot (Biola) a…
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Chapel Probation s4- Episode 100 with traci kato-kiriyama
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If you've read my book, Asian American Apostate, you know how important traci is to me. She's important to a lot of people, really. But she met me when I was still trying to be a Christian, and she helped me become the person I am today. So it makes sense to have her be the guest for the 100th episode of Chapel Probation. You'll hear her story, her…
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Chapel Probation s4- Ross Montgomery
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Ross is the real deal. Solid human who sees all the things we need our White men allies to see. Do I go a little overboard praising him? Sure. Am I sorry about that? Hell no. Anyone who steps away from privilege to engage in the complexities of other peoples' lives is awesome in my book. Throughout Ross's christian life, he challenged assumptions a…
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Chapel Probation s4- Pastor Trey Ferguson
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Pastor Trey is the author of Theologizin Bigger from Lake Drive Books, and he is a solid human. From a wild college experience at the University of Miami, Trey found himself at a fundamentalist seminary and eventually dropped out. He found a home at a much more open-minded seminary and now is a pastor and social media presence, pushing back at the …
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Chapel Probation s4 Lisa Christy (Grove City College)
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The first full episode of Season 4 has Lisa Christy from Grove City College. She got duped into going to this Libertarian and Presbyterian school and ended up staying. She found community in the "rebel" crowd and started a significant sports revolution at the school. Chapel Probation is part of the Dauntless Media Collective Join the …
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Chapel Probation s4- An Introduction to the Podcast
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And we're back. Heading into the 100th episode. This one is #95. We look back on some clips, bits, and songs of the past 3 seasons as we look forward to the shenanigans coming in season 4. Chapel Probation is part of the Dauntless Media Collective Join the Dauntless Media Discord for more conversation with all the podcast co…
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REPOST: After Hours #5 Keiko Agena (Gilmore Girls) and Shin Kawasaki- Heroes of the Asian Kids at APU
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Despite this episode containing some incredible music by Shin and the presence of Keiko, a bonafide Gilmore Girl and TV/Movie star, very few people heard this, comparatively. So before season 4 gets going, I wanted to give newer listeners a chance to hear from two of my favorite people on the planet: Shin Kawasaki and Keiko Agena. Even as the show …
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REPOST: After Hours #3 Jenny Yang- The Acclaimed Actor and Comedian Remembers...APU?
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Repost in honor of The Brothers Sun, a series that was just cancelled despite being hugely popular. All the love to Jenny Yang. Before Jenny Yang became a big-time comedian and Buzzfeed sensation, before she became a writer for television, and before she was cast as one of the stars of The Brothers Sun, a Netflix dramedy starring Michelle Yeoh, Jen…
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New Collab Coming Repost: Chapel Probation s3- Priska- From PK to the Two Horny Goats Podcast
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UPDATE: Get to know Priska if you haven't already. She will be collaborating with Scott to bring you a BIPOC-centered, AAPI-flavored podcast about leaving evangelical Purity Culture. Coming soon! About 11 years ago, I went to a Tuesday Night Cafe and saw a young woman in her early 20's perform there for the first time. Priska's voice and playing fl…
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Chapel Probation s3 Valentine's Day Special
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It's a bromance that eclipses the love of women. It's playful, raw, and unabashed. God has made men in his image, and that image is good, so young christian men at evangelical schools not only proudly display their dicks and balls, they create ways to interact with them. In this episode, we look at the practices and we laugh a little, but we also w…
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A thank you to all of you who listen and a preview of things to come. Be sure to register for the Content Warning livestream which happens Feb 17-18. Or better yet, come on out to Portland to hang with us. Chapel Probation is part of the Dauntless Media Collective Join the Dauntless Media Discord for more conversation with all t…
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Chapel Probation s3- Angela Herrington- From Wesleyan to Deconstruction Author
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You've probably heard of or seen Angela Herrington through her online events or the Faith Deconstruction Cafe on Facebook, and you might have wondered, what is her back story? Well here it is. Angela has a book due out Feb 20, How to Deconstruct Your Faith Without Losing Yourself, and she did time on Chapel Probation to tell her story of coming out…
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Chapel Probation s3- Jon Turney- A Life of Searching for Truth
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Jon Turney is the co-host of the This Is Not Church podcast with his brother and previous Chapel Probation guest, Nat. He has written a novel, RJ the Astronaut, which is reminiscent of CS Lewis's science fiction work with a modern twist. Jon spent is youth and young adult life trying to find answers to his deep questions about life and faith, and t…
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Chapel Probation s3- The Sexvangelicals- Jeremiah and Julia
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Christian colleges often tout their illustrious alumni who accomplish great things in the christian world. Jeremiah and Julia won't likely be listed in such lists for Abilene Christian or Calvin college. That's because they are licensed sex therapists who promote sexual wellbeing in all of its forms. Their podcast, the Sexvangelicals, is a great lo…
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Chapel Probation s3- Justin Gentry- Former Pastor to Go Home, Bible, You're Drunk
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Another podcasting hero of mine, Justin Gentry, does time on Chapel Probation. He talks about his time at Indiana Wesleyan and his epic attempt at being a pastor before deciding his humanity and care of others were more important than his faith. After leaving fundamentalist christian faith, Justin has used his voice and perspective, teaming up with…
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Chapel Probation s3- Esther Tseng- Food and Social Justice after Faith
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Esther Tseng is a badass food blogger and writer who wrote the article, The Silence of My White Friends After Atlanta, back in 2021. She captured what a lot of us were feeling during a time when our AAPI community felt targeted by rabid, ignorant MAGA Trumpers. But before she became a renowned food writer and social justice advocate, Esther grew up…
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Chapel Probation s3- Tim Mills- The Harmonic Atheist (BJU)
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It may seem a little harsh to post an episode the day after xmas with the creator of the Harmonic Atheist youtube channel, it just kinda worked out that way. Tim Mills is a self-described atheist who, like so many others this season, devoted his life to absolute adherence to fundamentalist Christianity. But his quest for the truth ultimately led hi…
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Chapel Probation s3- Ryan Mulkowski- IFB, Pensacola, Liberty to Loss of Faith
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Once again, we have someone who did everything humanly possible to be a devout, devoted christian only to walk away from fundamentalist, White nationalist christianity. Ryan Mulkowski, the host of the Some Random Thoughts podcast did time on Chapel Probation to share his story of coming up through the violent IFB cult to a soul-crushing semester at…
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Chapel Probation s3- Jered- Simpson College to Social Justice Math
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Jered held on to his evangelical faith for dear life for a long time. But when he couldn't abide the racism, conservative politics, and weak teachings anymore, he just couldn't stay. To his credit. In our conversation, we talk about rampant nudity in the Simpson College boys dorms, problematic teachings in church, parenting, and...math? Yes, math. …
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Chapel Probation s3- "Special K"- An Anonymous Listener Tells Her Story for the First Time
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"K" had the unique experience of growing up Southern Baptist in Southern California. She went to UCLA fully intending to maintain her deeply held fundamentalist Christian faith and sought to fortify her faith by learning as much as she could from campus ministries and local churches. But K realized she was not satisfied with the answers to her ques…
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Chapel Probation s3- Kit- IBLP to SBC to Freedom
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Kathleen, aka Kit, will tell you she was infantilized by her parents from time her family entered the IBLP world until she was in her early 20's. In the patriarchal, abusive, and oppressive world of IBLP, going to a Southern Baptist Convention college was a breath of fresh...er air. Freshness being relative in this metaphor, Kit, found freedom in S…
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Chapel Probation s3- Sarah Hayward- Author of Giving Up God
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Like many of us, Sarah Henn Hayward did everything she could to remain a christian. She read books, she asked questions, and she learned to be inclusive and affirming. And everything she did to remain helped her deconstruct all the way out of christianity. It's not so much a "slippery slope" as it is a snowball succumbing to gravity as it rolls dow…
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Chapel Probation s3- Ryan Stollar- Child Liberation Theology
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Ryan "RL" Stollar is an invaluable online presence, writing about homeschooling and child liberation theology on his blog and for many online publications. His new book, The Kingdom of Children, is a must-read for those of us interested in fighting the fundamentalist christian parenting movements that seek to indoctrinate children with harmful ideo…
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Chapel Probation s3- Simon Graham- Deconstructing Whiteness and Patriarchy
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I met Simon Graham during my last year at UC San Diego, and though we've rarely seen each since that year, we've kept in touch, marking our growth as people, as husbands, and as fathers in this complex world. And Simon is one of the finest humans I've had the pleasure of knowing. In the past year, we've talked about our views on race, gender, patri…
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Chapel Probation s3- A Conversation with Jo Luehmann
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I bonded with Jo Luehmann last year over our shared love of comedian Atsuko Okatsuka, and I even had the honor of introducing Jo to Atsuko. Two epic women for sure. In this bonus episode while I'm on vacation, Jo and I talk about our books while sitting on a bench in Central Park just a stone's throw from one of Turmp's towers. Jo's forthcoming boo…
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Chapel Probation s3- PDX Ben- Vanguard to Seminary to Great Dad
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Ben is a friend I first met at the epic PDX meetup last year. He had told me a little about his past as an evangelical who wanted to be a pastor or some kind of biblical scholar, but I had no idea how far he had come from his early adulthood. It's really an honor to bring you this story that goes all the usual places with problematic evangelical cu…
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Chapel Probation s3- Kristin Luna- A Sister 9 from APU
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Back at APU with another of the badass Sisters 9 writing group. Kristin Luna, aka K-wing, was such an important person to me. She was part of the group of students who saw me and welcomed me in as a fellow fringe/bad person at APU. I remembered my mentor professors who let me into their personal lives at UC San Diego, and I allowed myself to be tha…
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Chapel Probation s3- Timothy Cooper- Newly Deconverted and Kicking Ass after Masters College
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I spend way too much time trying to figure out how fundamentalist, conservative White folks become enlightened and caring of the world around them. We may never know, but meeting Tim Cooper has given me hope. Tim deconverted slowly over time and taught himself to interrogate first his faith and then his worldview. And in a relatively short time, he…
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Chapel Probation s3- Nat Turney-Author of The Seeds of De(CON)struction.
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I was a guest on the podcast, This Is Not Church with Jon and Nat Turney a few months ago, and we had a great time talking about my book and rock music. Sometimes you meet people, and immediately click, and this was the case with me and the Turney boys. So when I heard that Nat was publishing his book, The Seeds of De(Con)struction, I messaged him …
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Chapel Probation s3- Jon Carl Lewis- Sex Education for All of Us
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Jon Carl Lewis went to Princeton, but he sought out the repressive Christian elements he grew up with, hoping to "pray the gay away." But, he deconstructed after some horrific and lonely times to progressive forms of Christianity, eventually finding his way to leather bars in Boston and a life of sexual liberation. He has written and taught about s…
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Chapel Probation s3- Xeres Villanueva- From APU into the Mystic
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Xeres survived APU as a neuro-divergent Filipina woman and went on to explore personal and generational healing through community activism and explorations into the mystical aspects of religion. Leaning into her culture and her identity have helped her to find ways to help others with her project, The Estuary Moments. And I've had the privilege of …
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Chapel Probation s3- Paul aka "The Fictitious Prof" and the Divine in Music
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Paul Kirz is a classically-trained pianist and musician from Souther California who went to APU. Thankfully, his rigorous training, practicing, and performing in the Music Department kept him so busy that he didn't get the full brunt of all the usual racism, bigotry, and conservative fundamentalism of the school. And as the concept of the divine ha…
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