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Walking with Change is an invitation to "walk" with me and my guests on some brambly-filled-paths as we discover landscapes of lost or clandestine questions, or uncover new and better ones along the way. I am intentionally inviting folks into these conversations whom I feel are asking interesting and unique questions at this time, or are willing to sit with not knowing as they ponder possible questions on the horizon. The show is a blending of conversations, short fiction, poetry, music, and ...
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the Grounded Futures Show is hosted by carla joy bergman and Uilliam Joy. Uilliam (Liam) and carla discuss topics ranging from climate change to identity to how youth can gain new skills to thrive amid current and ongoing disasters that we are collectively facing. The show will take a deep dive on these issues, and be in conversations with incredible guests. We are a Gen-X and a Gen-Z, and we are keen on tearing down the walls between generations together and on our show! Each episode includ ...
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On Belonging: an audio series to connect us, part conversation and part storytelling, hosts carla joy bergman and Jamie-Leigh Gonzales ask their guests to explore why so many of us are feeling called to find a deeper sense of belonging, whether with our ancestors or to the land where we live, and beyond. In the many landscapes across the world, each of us walk pathways that take us to the edges of possibility, finding belonging and collective thriving along the way. Support our Work: https:/ ...
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Songcraft is a bi-weekly podcast that brings you in-depth conversations with and about the creators of lyrics and music that stand the test of time. You probably know their names, and you definitely know their songs. We bring you their stories.
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Content warning: we talk about sexual assault and rape, though not in detail. On today’s show, I talk with my dear friend Girl Cock about the breaking up of Femboys Against Fascism. We had previously spoken about the group on an episode of The Final Straw Radio in May of 2023. The group was formed to counter anti-migrant rallies taking place in Liv…
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Folkie Americana indie hero Drew Holcomb joins us to chat about the songwriting process and which of his songs he's not a fan of! PART ONE Scott and Paul debrief the experience of recently seeing the 74-year-old Bruce Springsteen perform with the energy of a teenager PART TWO Our in-depth conversation with Drew Holcomb ABOUT DREW HOLCOMB Memphis na…
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Welcome to the Breakup Theory Agony Letters. This is our first episode where we respond to listener submissions over phone and through our online form. We talk through four submissions in today’s episode, all dealing with different issues. The first letter deals with a relationship going long distance and poly at the same time. That starts at 3:44.…
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Grammy winners and astonishingly fabulous musicians Chris Thile, Sean Watkins, and Sara Watkins of Nickel Creek join us to chat about their fresh approach to songwriting on their most recent album, Celebrants. PART ONE Paul and Scott chat about musical virtuosity, Beyonce, Ricky Skaggs, and the blending of musical genres. PART TWO Our in-depth conv…
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Ninety-eight-year-old Songwriters Hall of Famer Alan Bergman chats with us about a wide-ranging career that started with Johnny Mercer and continues to today. PART ONE Paul and Scott talk about the Abba Voyage virtual concert and scare themselves with the possibilities of digital technology. PART TWO Our in-depth interview with Alan Bergman ABOUT A…
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On today’s show, I talk with one of my favorite people, Jamie Theophilos, a dear friend and comrade. Jamie teaches and studies the politics of digital technology and is a long time organizer, anarchist, as well as video editor/videographer, graphic designer, and motion graphics artist. Jamie also has an essay, “Ways of Seeing: Radical Queerness,” i…
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SUMMARY: Norah Jones joins us to chat about her new album Visions and the evolution of her songwriting since she took the world by storm in 2002. Afterward, stick around for a very special conversation with Tish Melton. The 18-year-old songwriter discusses her new Brandi-Carlile produced EP and more. PART ONE: Paul and Scott reflect on Norah Jones'…
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In this episode, Shuli talks with the wonderful carla joy bergman, a transdisciplinary artist who collaborates with humans and more than human friends. she co-wrote Joyful Militancy and edited Trust Kids! She formerly made the podcast Grounded Futures with her son Uilliam, as well as the On Belonging audio series with Jamie-leigh Gonzalez. The conv…
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Ala Ebtekar on Art, Iran, Hip-Hop, and Sci-Fi https://www.alaebtekar.com/ Music by AwareNess: https://awareness0.bandcamp.com/ Please support the podcast on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/timetalks Channel Zero Network: https://channelzeronetwork.com/ Time Talks: https://www.instagram.com/time_raps On Belonging Podcast: https://groundedfutures.co…
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Blackberry Smoke frontman and primary songwriter Charlie Starr goes deep on his music's Southern roots and wide-ranging appeal. PART ONE Paul and Scott talk Pearl Jam's new single, how travel defines fanhood, and why Blackberry Smoke are a force to be reckoned with when it comes to playing live. PART TWO Our in-depth interview with Charlie Starr AB…
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In this episode, Shuli talks with Conner Habib, author of the novel Hawk Mountain and host of the podcast Against Everyone with Conner Habib. The discussion goes into many different places, with certan themes about the connection between relationships and politics running throughout. We start this discussion talking about “breaking up with the stat…
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90-year-old blues legend Bobby Rush joins us for a wide-ranging and revealing conversation about songwriting, music, life, and so much more! PART ONE: Scott and Paul chat about Scott's experiences at the Grammy awards, including running into Ted Danson, Jason Isbell, Verdine White, and others. Plus seeing the Killer Mike drama go down and getting s…
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In this conversation Shuli talks with Sebastian Merrill, whose debut collection GHOST :: SEEDS was selected by Kimiko Hahn as the winner of the 2022 X. J. Kennedy Poetry Prize, and published by Texas Review Press in November 2023. GHOST :: SEEDS was recently named a winner of 2024 Stonewall Honor Book - Barbara Gittings Literature Award from the Am…
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Rock & Roll Hall of Famer Duff McKagan, best known as a member of Guns N' Roses and Velvet Revolver, talks about writing songs with his legendary bandmates, a few of his various side projects, and his genre-spanning recent album, Lighthouse. PART ONE Scott and Paul shout out some Patreon supporters and reflect on the small handful of artists who, l…
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Two moss loving friends talk about being moms who make art with community as a way to cultivate connections in a world that aims to divide us. carla and Jamie-Leigh also dive into feeling-thinking together about what each discovered in themselves while making On Belonging— ending with an invitation to you, the listener, to reflect on what it means …
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Patrick Pouponneau joins Jamie-Leigh in conversation to explore ideas around place-based belonging within diasporic identity, carrying our ancestors with us as a tool for healing, and how being Black in really White places can hinder the process. A conversation which ultimately inspired Patrick to write a powerful poem to further explore his own co…
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In this story, rowan ewanyshyn reads a timeline bending narration that blurs the lines of life and death to bring us closer to ancestors known and unknown. Painting vivid scenes of memories, visions, and dreams, we explore rowan’s own turbulent path towards healing ancestral pain woven with threads of softening masculinity, embracing grief, and ult…
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Elia, who grew up in Lebanon, takes us on a profound journey across lands, cultures, and into liminality— both the in-between and the periphery— where he feels belonging has the potential to be more generative. Through the lens of radical histories and cultural studies, Elia discusses a myriad of topics and ideas, such as: languages, autism, social…
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This episode has two segments: in the first, Caroline, River, and Shuli address the escalated genocide in Gaza in the wake of October 7, giving more context to some of the references in the previous discussion. In the second, River and Shuli grapple with feelings of despair and hope as an astonishing worldwide, massive solidarity movement rises up …
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SUMMARY: Audley Freed founded the band Cry of Love before going on to become a well-known guitarist for the Black Crowes, the Dixie Chicks, Sheryl Crow, and many others. He sits down with Songcraft at his Nashville home to go deep on his own fandom, the kind of musician he tries to be, and how his riffs have kickstarted some great songs. PART ONE: …
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In this episode, Shuli, River, and Caroline discuss the breakup theory, borrowing lessons from anarchism to think about how to engage in our relationships for mutual liberation. We aim for collective liberation and mutual autonomy. Anarchism can teach us how to end things. But how do we get over ourselves? Here you multiverse of hosts set up the wa…
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SUMMARY: Songwriters Hall of Famer JD Souther joins Scott and Paul for an in-depth interview to kick off the New Year! PART ONE: Paul and Scott welcome two very special guests (ages 8 and 5) to help set the tone for the new year. Plus they reveal the clever message a listener sent in to win the Stax Christmas LP from the last episode. PART TWO: Our…
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Mark Sedgwick on Islam, Sufism, Anarchism, and Ivan Aguéli https://www.driveproject.eu/team-member/prof-mark-sedgwick/ https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/anarchist-artist-sufi-9781350177895/ Music by AwareNess: https://awareness0.bandcamp.com/ Please support the podcast on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/timetalks Channel Zero Network: https://channelz…
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Webs of Connectivity begins with a poetic narration by Sophie and then flows into a deep conversation with carla. Sophie speaks to the importance of making and unmaking worlds within a practice of presence, and shares some potential pathways towards opening ourselves up to surprises within every moment or interaction so we can deepen our innate bel…
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April joins carla and Jamie-Leigh in a joyful conversation about broadening our perspectives of what ancestry can be, and who and what it includes. They discuss the potential of technology to facilitate connections, as well as a need for grounding amongst/within the more-than-human kin around us. Exploring these expansions of radical ancestry as a …
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This story opens with a dreamy narration by Coulee Ross that moves into a conversation between Coulee and Jamie-Leigh. Through auditory exploration, Coulee lands us in a world where all beings inherently belong. In the follow up conversation, they look at how ongoing colonialism challenges the narrative of belonging and how reciprocity and kinship …
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Grounding in land, ceremony, and ancestry, Klee narrates a poetically powerful and honest story, one that brings us to the root of this conversation about belonging. In Klee’s words: “for Mother Earth to flourish, settler failure is necessary.” Moving beautifully between genres, Klee’s words are medicine — an offering to move us towards deepening m…
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SUMMARY In this very special holiday episode of Songcraft, we're taking it back to Christmas at Stax, featuring conversations with some of the luminaries of the storied Memphis label that dominated Southern soul music in the 1960s and 70s. You'll hear from Deanie Parker, William Bell, and Carla Thomas as we celebrate the season and close the book o…
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SUMMARY: Two-time Grammy nominee and acclaimed singer-songwriter Peter Case joins Songcraft to talk about his wide-ranging career. PART ONE: Scott and Paul chat about instruments that are nearly as famous as their players. PART TWO: Our in-depth interview with Peter Case ABOUT PETER CASE: Two-time Grammy nominee Peter Case made a name for himself i…
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Riddlore on Freestyling, Leimert Park, Project Blowed, Cuba, and Hip-Hop Riddlore/CVE Bandcamp: https://theriddlore.bandcamp.com/album/riddlore Born A Villain Book: https://www.lulu.com/shop/hamadi-riddlore-owens/born-a-villain-paperback-jahs-one-variant-cover/paperback/product-grz9k4.html?q=&page=1&pageSize=4 Riddlore IG: https://www.instagram.com…
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SUMMARY: Bush front man Gavin Rossdale joins to chat about the band's first career-spanning compilation as he looks back on all the classic songs. PART ONE: This is a long one that covers Scott's eyewitness account of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony, Paul's experience at U2's Sphere show, and the guys' thoughts on new music from the…
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SUMMARY: Grammy-nominated artist and songwriter Dave Barnes joins us to chat about his recording career, his hits for other artists, and his latest album that was inspired from an entire year listening to nothing but the Beatles PART ONE: Scott and Paul talk about concept albums and reveal their favorites PART TWO: Our in-depth conversation with Da…
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Gerald Horne on Acknowledging Radical Histories, Colorado, and Palestine Acknowledging Radical Histories by Dr. Gerald Horne & chris time steele: https://www.intpubnyc.com/browse/acknowledging-radical-histories/ https://www.facebook.com/DrGeraldHorne/ https://www.uh.edu/class/history/faculty-and-staff/horne_g/ Music by AwareNess: https://awareness0…
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SUMMARY: Celebrated songwriter Natalie Merchant chats about her songwriting, from her days fronting 10,000 Maniacs up to her most recent album, Keep Your Courage. PART ONE: Were the Lilith Fair-era 1990s the best time for women in music? Scott and Paul discuss. PART TWO: Our in-depth conversation with the legendary Natalie Merchant ABOUT: Natalie M…
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T Storm Heter on the Sonic Gaze, White Listening, and Jazz The Sonic Gaze: https://rowman.com/ISBN/9781538162613/The-Sonic-Gaze-Jazz-Whiteness-and-Racialized-Listening https://esu4.academia.edu/TStormHeter IG: https://www.instagram.com/stormheter/?hl=en Music by AwareNess: https://awareness0.bandcamp.com/ Please support the podcast on Patreon: http…
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Summary: Josh Ritter, named one of the "100 Greatest Living Songwriters" by Paste magazine, dives deep with Scott on the evolution of his songwriting and the boundaries he pushed on his most recent album. Part One: Scott and Paul talk about politicians who play music. Because SOMEONE needs to talk about it! Part Two: Scott's in-depth conversation w…
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SUMMARY: You wanted the best, you got the best! Rock & Roll Hall of Famer Paul Stanley of KISS joins Songcraft to talk about his long and diverse career through the lens of his role as a songwriter. PART ONE: Paul and Scott talk about musicians who adopt personas, how KISS seems to have the best timing of any musical group of all time, and their re…
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SUMMARY Stax Records legend Deanie Parker talks about writing songs for Otis Redding, Albert King, William Bell, and Carla Thomas, dives deep on what made the Stax environment so special, and shines a light on the recently-released box sets of forgotten Stax songwriter demos. PART ONE Scott and Paul discuss the wild story behind the monumental box …
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SUMMARY: Zach Williams of The Lone Bellow chats about his songwriting development and the band's latest album, Love Songs for Losers PART ONE: Scott and Paul dive deep on the evolution of George Michael's "Careless Whisper" and the role that production plays in presenting a great song. PART TWO: Our in-depth conversation with Zach Williams of The L…
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SUMMARY: Lake Street Dive's Rachael Price and composer/guitarist Vilray discuss their dynamic duo that preserves the spirit of the Great American Songbook with original music. PART ONE: Scott tells a story about a bad demo that helped him learn an important lesson. Then Paul introduces a pop quiz to identify songs solely based on their drum intros.…
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SUMMARY: We chat with Ashley Gorley who, with more #1 singles than any writer in any genre, is the reigning king of country music songwriters. PART ONE: Paul and Scott discuss the state of contemporary country music, the way the genre has come to dominate the pop chart, and the rapidly-changing nature of what's the most popular song at any given mo…
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Trust Kids Mixtape ft. Grouded Futures I want to thank carla joy bergman and Liam for collaborating on this show and mixtape, please check out their amazing podcast: https://groundedfutures.com/ Another one of our collaborations is Listening House Media: https://www.listeninghousemedia.com/ Trust Kids! Stories on Youth Autonomy and Confronting Adul…
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SUMMARY: REO Speedwagon's Kevin Cronin sits down in person with Scott and Paul for an amazingly in-depth conversation about his career and his legendary songs "Roll with the Changes," "Time for Me to Fly," "Keep on Loving You," and "Can't Fight This Feeling," and more! PART ONE: Paul and Scott talk about the resurgence of Tracy Chapman's "Fast Car,…
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SUMMARY David Shaw, lead singer and one of the primary songwriters of the New Orleans-based band The Revivalists joins us to talk about the band's history, their three #1 Billboard singles, the times they opened for The Rolling Stones, and their new album, Pour it Out Into the Night. PART ONE Paul and Scott offer up opportunities for song critiques…
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Summary: Rock & Roll Hall of Famer Graham Nash joins us to talk about CSN, his solo career, and his most recent album. Part One: Joe Biden and Donald Trump are the two oldest presidents in American history. And it looks like they might square off once again in a contest of the aged. But guess which rock stars are older than our oldest presidents? S…
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The Grounded Futures Show, Episode 25: Remaining Unbroken, with chris time steele “I've always been a rapper, since I was 12. So that's what I do. And it's the way I communicate best and most vulnerable.” In their last episode of the season, Uli and carla share a wonderful talk-about with the always inspiring chris time steele! A dreamer, writer, a…
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Denis O'Hearn on Irish Revolutionaries, Bobby Sands, Prison Abolition, and the Zapatistas https://www.utep.edu/liberalarts/sociology-and-anthropology/people/denis-ohearn.html Music by AwareNess: https://awareness0.bandcamp.com/ Please support the podcast on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/timetalks Channel Zero Network: https://channelzeronetwork.…
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SUMMARY: With nine Grammy nominations and a GMA Dove Award for Songwriter of the Year, Matt Maher is one of the leading songwriters in contemporary Christian music. He joins us for a wide-ranging conversation about creativity, collaboration, and and his evolving career. PART ONE: Paul and Scott talk about the recent Ed Sheeran copyright infringemen…
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