Best Corey Haines & Chris Spags Podcasts (2024)

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83 | All good things must come to an end 31:04

1+ y ago31:04

31:04

Corey and Chris are bringing the podcast to an end. They discuss why, where things are at today, and what to look out for in the future. Learn more about their businesses: Default Alive Ventures Swipe Files Jetboost SwipeWell Follow them on Twitter: @coreyhainesco @c_spagsBy Corey Haines & Chris Spags

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82 | CEO Stuff 1:08:37

1+ y ago1:08:37

1:08:37

Corey shares some learnings on startup taxes. Chris shares how the recent growth of the Jetboost team is going and what he’s learning from that. They also discuss SaaS team account architecture, user onboarding email sequences, churn trends in 2023, and of course, they have to talk about ChatGPT. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Andrew from Fl…

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81 | 2023 Goals 59:38

1+ y ago59:38

59:38

Corey and Chris talk about their goals, themes, and big projects for the new year. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: SwipeWell Product Hunt launch More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about their businesses: Default Alive Ventures Swipe Files Jetboost SwipeWell Follow them on Twitter: @coreyhainesco @c_spags…

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80 | 2022 Year In Review 58:34

1+ y ago58:34

58:34

Corey and Chris look back on the past year’s highlights, lowlights, and learnings. Ask us a question → Learn more about their businesses: Default Alive Ventures Swipe Files Jetboost SwipeWell Follow them on Twitter: @coreyhainesco @c_spagsBy Corey Haines & Chris Spags

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79 | Webflow Conf 2022 49:04

1+ y ago49:04

49:04

Corey is working on co-marketing campaigns for SwipeWell. Chris is back from Webflow Conf and shares everything that happened at the event! They also discuss some of the unique aspects of the Calm Fund SEAL agreement. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Webflow Conf Announcements Webflow Apps Reilly Chase’s tweet Tyler Tringas’s tweet More podcas…

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78 | AI takeover 1:11:06

2y ago1:11:06

1:11:06

Corey recaps the SaaS Marketing Summit and State of SaaS Marketing report. Chris is wrapping up his final prep before Webflow Conf next week. They also talk about AI, newsletter sponsorships, and SwipeWell mobile apps. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Webflow Conf Agenda Corey’s AI generated profile pictures SaaS Marketing Summit recording Sta…

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77 | 10,000 subscribers 53:17

2y ago53:17

53:17

Corey hits a big newsletter subscriber milestone. Chris gets back from vacation and officially launches the Jetboost blog. They also talk about playing the waiting game with SEO, Webflow Conf, and SwipeWell’s public roadmap. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: SwipeWell Public Roadmap SaaS Marketing Summit on October 12th Jetboost Blog More podca…

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76 | 2-year anniversary listener Q&A 1:25:04

2y ago1:25:04

1:25:04

Corey and Chris answer listener questions live on the podcast to celebrate the 2-year anniversary of publishing. They cover how they spend their time, favorite tools, what success looks like, the highs and lows of the journey, and more. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Grain Mailman ZipMessage Manifest Destiny blog post More podcasts for boots…

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75 | Celebrating wins 56:26

2y ago56:26

56:26

Corey integrates a new newsletter growth tool for Swipe Files and ships a new landing page for SwipeWell. Chris is still celebrating recent wins while pondering the future of Jetboost. They also talk about Chrome web store SEO, “Two Way Write Ups,” and product evolution. Next week is a Q&A episode to celebrate the 2-year anniversary of the podcast.…

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74 | SEO is king 1:11:21

2y ago1:11:21

1:11:21

Corey prepares to roll out waitlist invites for SwipeWell. Chris shares what he learned while setting Jetboost up to hire full-time employees instead of contractors. They also discuss Google’s upcoming search update, programmatic SEO, and useful SEO tools. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Above Board podcast Startup to Last podcast PageFactory…

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73 | Hiring spree 56:06

2y ago56:06

56:06

Corey launches a programmatic content experiment on Product Hunt and starts planning the Swipe Files Summit. Chris moved to Chicago and made two new hires! They also talk about a new SaaS project and Webflow Conf. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Retext More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about their businesses: Default Alive Ventures S…

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72 | Bought a new domain 1:00:15

2y ago1:00:15

1:00:15

Corey builds a mobile app MVP using the no-code tool Adalo. Chris is continuing to push out small UX updates for Jetboost while preparing for his big move across the country. They also talk about new onboarding flows for SwipeWell and Swipe Files. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Adalo Crash Course YouTube Video More podcasts for bootstrappers…

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71 | Achievement unlocked: First MRR 1:02:02

2y ago1:02:02

1:02:02

Corey celebrates getting the first SwipeWell customers. Chris ships a helpful update to Jetboost and brainstorms some content ideas. They also discuss product analytics and being a power user of your own app. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: PostHog More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about their businesses: Default Alive Ventures Swipe…

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70 | CopywritingPrompts.com 53:37

2y ago53:37

53:37

Corey launches CopywritingPrompts.com and experiments with programmatic SEO for SwipeWell. Chris is getting back in the groove, talking to customers, exploring partnerships, and working on new features for Jetboost. They also provide an update on Default Alive Ventures and discuss the opportunity cost of buying a SaaS. Ask us a question → Notable m…

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69 | Introducing: Default Alive Ventures 54:19

2y ago54:19

54:19

Corey works on a new side project as marketing for SwipeWell. Chris ships an important update to handle subscription changes and works on turning content briefs into articles. They also introduce Default Alive Ventures and talk about SaaS acquisition multiples based on ARR vs SDE. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Default Alive Ventures Tweet H…

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68 | Emergency Pod: “I’m sorry, I sold the company.” 1:07:51

2y ago1:07:51

1:07:51

Corey and Chris were about to close on a deal to acquire a micro SaaS business together until it suddenly fell apart. Listen in to hear what happened and what they’d do differently next time. Know a SaaS business we might want to acquire? → Notable mentions: MicroAcquisitions course Boopos More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about their busi…

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67 | $500 MRR 53:31

2+ y ago53:31

53:31

Corey experiments with a $500 MRR Challenge to gain new members. Chris has had to put work on the backburner for a bit while overcoming some challenges at home. They also talk about Elon buying Twitter, NFT launches, and meetups. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Milk Road City Clash More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about their busine…

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66 | What to build for an MVP 48:41

2+ y ago48:41

48:41

Corey onboards the first SwipeWell users on calls and publishes some new blog posts. Chris is only working half-time right now but managed to ship a key stability update for Jetboost. They also how sleep affects productivity and a new indie hacker podcast, Framework Friends. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Framework Friends More podcasts for …

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65 | Do founders get parental leave? 1:04:29

2+ y ago1:04:29

1:04:29

Corey builds a waitlist for SwipeWell and shares the outline for Founding Marketing. Chris gives a short update on how paternity leave is going. They also talk about the woes of tax season, meeting online friends in person, and the discipline to focus on what you work on. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Founding Marketing Table of Contents Je…

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64 | Corey gets into SaaS 58:37

2+ y ago58:37

58:37

Corey announces a new SaaS project. Chris makes a marketing hire and shares some product updates. They also talk about platform risk, outcome oriented communities, and hiring outside of your area of expertise. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Bootstrapping an outcome oriented community The Elephant in the room: The myth of exponential hypergro…

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63 | Don’t poke the bear 45:06

2+ y ago45:06

45:06

Corey is focused on newsletter content and gives an update on the Swipe Files Job Board. Thanks to a situation with a competitor, Chris’ fire has been re-lit. They also talk about competition and celebrating customer wins. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Founding Marketing Swipe Files Job Board More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about…

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62 | Founding Marketing 48:04

2+ y ago48:04

48:04

Corey explores a new cohort-based course partnership and reveals a book concept. Chris is working on major product improvements for Jetboost and a brand new booster. They also talk about community engagement and pricing dynamics. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Founding Marketing More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about their business…

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61 | Reaquired! 45:49

2+ y ago45:49

45:49

Corey reacquires Hey Marketers and rebrands it to the Swipe Files Job Board. Chris shares his current struggles with productivity and setting direction for Jetboost. They also talk about burnout, launching on Product Hunt, and Alexis Ohanian’s approach to customer support. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Corey’s tweet announcing Hey Marketers…

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60 | 2022: grow the funnel 50:47

2+ y ago50:47

50:47

Corey finishes Marketing Like A Media Company and prepares for launch. Chris is getting ready to roll out the Jetboost affiliate program in January. They also talk about goal-setting, 2022 plans, and recording biweekly moving forward. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Corey’s holiday side project: How To Beat Your Friends At Poker Ruben Gamez t…

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59 | 2021 Year In Review 1:08:58

2+ y ago1:08:58

1:08:58

Corey and Chris chat about the last year — highlights, wins, losses, learnings, and everything in between. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about their businesses: Swipe Files Jetboost Follow them on Twitter: @coreyhainesco @c_spagsBy Corey Haines & Chris Spags

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58 | Vertical vs horizontal SaaS with Brian Casel 1:25:56

2+ y ago1:25:56

1:25:56

Corey and Chris bring on Brian Casel to talk about growing ZipMessage, what he'd do differently today if he was starting from scratch, and recent experiments including freemium. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: @CasJam on Twitter ZipMessage Bootstrapped Web More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn more about their businesses: Swipe Files Jetboost…

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57 | “Code without tests is bad code” 1:06:39

2+ y ago1:06:39

1:06:39

Corey gets another premium sponsor commitment and shares Black Friday results. Chris recaps No-Code Conf and has an epiphany when it comes to testing software. They also discuss code rewrites, throwing away your MVP, and of course, end with Corey's Crypto Corner. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Working Effectively With Legacy Code Constitutio…

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56 | Competing against free 59:31

3y ago59:31

59:31

Corey records the first module for Marketing Like A Media Company and gets airdropped free crypto. Chris contemplates expanding the customer support team. They also talk about the new Calm Fund scout program, Black Friday / Cyber Monday preparation, and free competitors. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: ENS Report "@swipefiles" for impersonati…

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55 | Someone should create a SaaS marketing course 1:00:21

3y ago1:00:21

1:00:21

Corey feels the pressure to create new course content and pitch premium sponsorships before the holidays. Chris launches a new search feature and Webflow template along with it. They also talk about YNAB's pricing update snafu, emailing Seth Godin, and a tweet by Jon Yongfook about SaaS marketing. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Jetboost Sear…

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54 | Goodbye MRR notifications 1:04:04

3y ago1:04:04

1:04:04

Corey hosts the first Swipe Files Office Hours session. Chris turns off MRR notifications as he works to make Jetboost more of a calm company. They also talk about "skeuomorphism", digital information paradigms, and the merits of keeping a changelog. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Startups For The Rest Of Us #572 Andrew Wilkinson on the My F…

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53 | The price of entrepreneurship 38:21

3y ago38:21

38:21

Corey notices low new member signups for Swipe Files and thinks about how to introduce ways to give people a taste of the membership. Chris deals with some of the not-so-fun realities of running a business. They also talk about platform risk and playing the part of an independent recruiter. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Apply to the Swipe F…

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52 | The grind 1:06:13

3y ago1:06:13

1:06:13

Corey shares how the membership pricing has resulted in the best month to date. Chris realizes Jetboost has been lacking direction and puts together a roadmap with the team. They also talk about the grind to default alive, strategies when making pricing changes, and dopamine's effect on our ability to work. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Pat…

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51 | Charge more 41:54

3y ago41:54

41:54

Corey finally follows the "charge more" advice and rolls out a pricing update for Swipe Files. Chris celebrates the latest Jetboost demo reaching the front page of the Webflow Showcase. They also discuss hiring lawyers and other professional services, giving raises to employees, and how scary DNS is. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Webflow Sh…

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50 | Chris the community leader 52:42

3y ago52:42

52:42

Corey works on a new membership landing page and plans on rolling out pricing updates. Chris officially releases Jetboost's Dynamic Sorting Booster and a new free Webflow template along with it. They also talk about Webflow's No-Code Conf and managing email list unsubscribes with Smart Subscriber. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Jetboost Dyna…

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49 | Default Alive: One year later 39:31

3y ago39:31

39:31

Corey gets ready to ship the Tiny Marketing Ideas newsletter and record his talk for Ad World. Chris rants about chargebacks and other frustrations with operating a SaaS business. They also reminisce about recording the podcast for a year and how things have changed since the first episode. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: 1 year anniversary o…

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48 | Shipping September 45:56

3y ago45:56

45:56

Corey is heads-down creating newsletter content and begins niching down to SaaS marketing. Chris and the Jetboost team kick off September on a shipping spree. They also talk about energy ebbs and flows and Intuit acquiring Mailchimp for $12B. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Axios: Intuit Acquires Mailchimp for $12B How I Built This: Mailchimp…

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47 | Corey Bombs 50:28

3y ago50:28

50:28

Corey explores niching down to focus on SaaS marketing and increasing pricing for Swipe Files. Chris shares how Jetboost is growing up. They also talk about MicroAcquires financing partnerships to make acquisitions more accessible. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Jetboost's big update 1,000 True Fans? Try 100 Bootstrappers.com Andrew Gazdecki…

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46 | Indie Hackers of San Diego 54:35

3y ago54:35

54:35

Corey makes progress on the Swipe Files "evergreen newsletter" content and considers a way to drip out course content instead of dropping all at once. Chris is taking a break from marketing and working to wrap up a few product updates. They also talk about the first Indie Hackers of San Diego meetup since covid, the advantage of shipping small and …

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45 | Manifest Destiny 37:50

3y ago37:50

37:50

Corey publishes a blog post about his public goals and his time offline at a summer camp. Chris is finding more balance between work and his personal life. They also talk about meeting SavvyCal founder Derrick Reimer in person and the surprising benefits of scheduled team calls. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Manifest Destiny blog post Start…

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44 | The almighty H1 54:57

3y ago54:57

54:57

Corey shares what he's learned from doing 25 personalized landing page teardowns for clients. Chris announces Dynamic Sorting for Jetboost (coming soon!) and describes the journey he took to get there. They also discuss positioning service businesses vs SaaS products, building a personal brand vs company brand, and a clever marketing hack for free …

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43 | Building and scaling with Derrick Reimer 59:20

3y ago59:20

59:20

Corey is off this week, so Chris is joined by Derrick Reimer, founder of SavvyCal. They chat about building and scaling SaaS products, making early hires, onboarding developers, and indulge in a bit of tech stack discussion. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: SavvyCal Art of Product Podcast Derrick's Twitter More podcasts for bootstrappers Learn…

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42 | How to become a calm company 50:37

3y ago50:37

50:37

Corey trades notes with another community manager and creates a timeline for course updates. Chris wrestles over how to handle an extremely large potential customer. They also talk about shipping speed, Twitter threads, and building a more calm company. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Email Chris about the future of Jetboost: chris@jetboost.i…

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41 | Chaos in the early days 58:52

3y ago58:52

58:52

Corey deals with some dog issues and offers landing page audits. Chris makes a key new hire and is excited to push Jetboost forward faster. They also talk about founder archetypes, handling chaos in the early days, and how to get big customers to let you use their logo. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Corey's landing page audit offer There Ar…

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40 | Founder hobbies 1:02:22

3y ago1:02:22

1:02:22

Corey writes his first angel checks and talks about how high the bar is these days for content creation. Chris puts work on the back burner for a week to resolve some personal issues. They also talk about what they do for fun and the dynamics of being an investor with an audience. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Outseta Chris Cantino's tweet …

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39 | Itching to get out 1:00:03

3y ago1:00:03

1:00:03

Corey struggles with his own community activity and gives an update on a cohort-based course. Chris successfully ships a major Jetboost update and levels up his Google Analytics skills. They also discuss bootstrapper funding and not feeling all that motivated for work as Covid restrictions end and summer begins. Ask us a question → Notable mentions…

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38 | Irons in the fire 49:20

3y ago49:20

49:20

Corey contemplates spending longer, focused time on big projects instead of juggling multiple projects at once. Chris feels like he's currently floundering a bit while jumping from one thing to the next. They also talk about competition, angel investing, and Berkshire Hathaway. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: MegaMaker podcast Acquired podcas…

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37 | Thinking in public 48:00

3y ago48:00

48:00

Corey shares the (candidly disappointing) results of opening enrollment for Swipe Files courses. Chris has a mostly heads down week while working on a big infrastructure update. They also talk about some potential pivots for Swipe Files and paying for SaaS products. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Cold Turkey Blocker Noah Bragg on Nathan Latk…

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36 | K club and comma club 51:41

3y ago51:41

51:41

Corey reaches a Twitter following milestone and opens up enrollment for his courses. Chris celebrates a milestone and ramps up hiring for Jetboost. They also discuss burnout, launching on Product Hunt, and hiring VAs. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Mental Models For Marketing Refactoring Growth https://share.swipefiles.com Squared Away Missi…

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35 | Surprisingly calm 43:51

3+ y ago43:51

43:51

Corey tests the waters with a "marketing bootcamp" cohort-based course and begins onboarding a virtual assistant. Chris has a surprisingly calm week. They also answer a listener question about how to evaluate new product ideas. Ask us a question → Notable mentions: Marketing Bootcamp cohort-based course ORB Framework Content Remix 10 Questions for …

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34 | The hedonic treadmill of MRR 53:01

3+ y ago53:01

53:01

Corey accidentally starts a Twitter growth challenge with 100+ people. Chris ships off the Modkit update and has to send a difficult email to customers. They also talk about the hedonic treadmill of revenue growth and the myth of passive income. Ask us a question on Zip Message → Notable mentions: ZipMessage Be the first to join the waitlist for Co…

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