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The Crisis in Education Podcast

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Educators are the backbone of our nation, and education is its lifeblood. But because of a number of issues exacerbated by politics and the pandemic, it is progressively faltering. From teacher shortages and failing schools to growing mental health issues, there is an undeniable growing crisis in Education at the individual, classroom, and school level. Though painful, with the right approaches, crises can be leveraged as an opportunity for growth. Therefore, Dr. Paul "Paulie" Gavoni and Dre ...
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Send us a text Ever wonder why some leaders instantly command respect while others struggle to get their message across? The secret lies not in what they say, but how they communicate it. Communication represents the fundamental difference between leadership that merely directs and leadership that transforms. In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. …
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Send us a text In this episode of Crisis in Education, Dr. Paulie sits down with educator and leader Jamia Green to discuss the challenges and opportunities in supporting deaf students. With experience as a teacher of the deaf, a STEM technology educator, a principal, and now a state-level leader in Hawaii, Jamia brings a wealth of knowledge on how…
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Send us a text John Maxwell once said, “If you think you're leading and no one is following, you're just taking a walk.” Leadership isn’t about titles—it’s about the team you build, develop, and inspire. In this episode, we’re breaking down the 5 P’s of Team Building—Pursuing, Promoting, Purging, Pushing, and Pulling—to help you create a high-perfo…
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Send us a text Unlock the secrets to impactful leadership with insights from Dr. Paul "Paulie" Gavoni and AJ Rinaldi. Discover how real leadership transcends titles and transforms cultures by focusing on influence and authenticity. Dr. Paulie reveals his journey from social work to leadership, driven by a passion for improving leadership practices.…
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Send us a text In this episode of the Crisis in Education Podcast, host Dr. Paulie welcomes his good friend and former colleague, Pierre Louis. As a long-time leader and one of the founders of Ovation Behavior Group, Pierre brings deep insights into the intersection of behavior science, leadership, and education. Dr. Paulie and Pierre discuss: ✅ Ho…
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Send us a text Episode Description: In this episode of The Crisis in Education Podcast, Dr. Paulie sits down with behavior analyst and education expert Steve Ward to discuss practical strategies for supporting teachers and students—especially those with special needs—while highlighting lessons that apply to all classrooms. They dive into the critic…
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Send us a text In this eye-opening episode of Crisis in Education, Dr. Paulie sits down with Dr. Greg Rockhold to explore a bold and urgent topic: the growing teacher turnover crisis and its potential implications for national security. Drawing from decades of experience in education and leadership, Dr. Rockhold offers a compelling analysis of how …
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Send us a text BCBAs and RBTs enter the field to create meaningful change for learners, but more and more is being dumped on their backs, draining their energy and impacting the quality of care. This burden also sucks the life out of leaders, making it harder to retain talent and maintain high standards. But what if there was a way to ease the load…
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Send us a text In this episode, Christopher Hull sits down with Dr. Paulie to share his journey from the classroom to becoming a leader in educational innovation. As a former teacher, Christopher understands the challenges educators face every day and uses that experience to drive meaningful change in K-12 education. Together, he and Dr. Paulie div…
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Send us a text How can behavior analysts build better relationships and avoid burning out? In this episode, Dr. Monica Gilbert and I dig into the game-changing power of Motivational Interviewing (MI) in behavior analysis. Monica’s journey—from working with people battling substance use to bringing MI into her ABA practice—shows just how powerful re…
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Send us a text In this episode, I’m tackling a topic that’s incredibly close to my heart: "Breaking the Cycle: A Behavior-Based Approach to Bullying Prevention." Growing up, I experienced just a small amount of bullying—so few incidents I could probably count them on one hand—but the impact was profound. It shaped me in ways I didn’t fully understa…
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Send us a text In this episode of the Crisis in Education podcast, Dr. Paulie sits down with Dr. Skip Wilhoit to dive into a critical yet often overlooked aspect of educational success—measuring and incorporating school climate into the overall school grade. Together, they explore why a supportive, positive climate is essential for both students an…
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Send us a text Ever wondered how behavioral science can change lives? Join us as we sit down with the insightful Kendall Ryndak Samuel, a dedicated behavior analyst who transitioned from an aspiring school counselor to a pioneer in the field of behavioral science. Kendall shares her captivating journey, fueled by a high school psychology class that…
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Send us a text Ever wondered how a background in nutrition can lead to a flourishing career in Applied Behavior Analysis and Organizational Behavior Management? Behavior analyst Troy Burg shares his unique journey from direct support work to ABA expertise in this enlightening episode. Troy reveals how his early experiences fueled a passion for beha…
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Send us a text In this episode of Crisis in Education, we sit down with 25 year principal Martin Silverman, author of the upcoming book Sustaining Excellence: How Culture Drives Teacher Retention. Marty shares his perspective as a long-time school leader, discussing effective strategies to foster a positive school culture that encourages teacher re…
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Send us a text Why are Black men so rarely seen in leadership roles in our schools? In this episode, Dr. Paulie teams up with Dr. Bruce Tinor, a trailblazing school principal and behavior analyst—perhaps the only Black man to hold both distinctions. In it, they dissect the complex layers of systemic barriers and historical patterns that contribute …
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Send us a text As students return to school, some carry the invisible burdens of trauma, which can manifest as anxiety, avoidance, and disruptive behavior in the classroom. Recognizing these challenges is critical but only the first step in a comprehensive support strategy. In this episode of the Crisis in Education Podcast, Dr. Paulie explores the…
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Send us a text In this episode of the "Crisis in Education" podcast, Dr. Paulie interviews Janine Driver, a New York Times Best-Selling Author and award-winning keynote speaker. Known as the “Lyin’ Tamer,” Janine is a body language expert and former federal law enforcement officer with over 16 years of experience at the Department of Justice. She’s…
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Send us a text In this episode, Albert and Jessica explore how behavior analysts can connect with teachers by understanding and aligning with their core values through Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT). This dynamic duo is passionate about integrating behavior analytic technologies—such as Relational Frame Theory (RFT), Acceptance and Commitm…
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Send us a text Join Dr. Paulie as he takes a solo deep dive into the nuanced world of 'hands-off' policies in educational and care settings. In this compelling episode, Dr. Paulie shares firsthand experiences from the front lines of a struggling elementary school, revealing the real-life impacts and challenges of implementing 'hands-off' strategies…
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Send us a text In this episode, Dr. Paulie has an insightful conversation with David Jenyns, a serial entrepreneur, systems devotee, and the mastermind behind SYSTEMology. David has dedicated his career to helping business owners worldwide scale and streamline their operations with his proven seven-step process. During conversation, David and Pauli…
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Send us a text In this episode I dig into the importance of improving training standards for Registered Behavior Technicians (RBTs) with special guest Stephanie Waldon, a recent master's graduate in Applied Behavior Analysis from FIT. Stephanie shares her firsthand experiences and passion for ABA, highlighting the critical need for better training,…
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Send us a text In this episode, Dr. Paulie sits down with former principal and national consultant Dr. Kisha Bellande-Francis to dive into the essentials of good instruction and instructional leadership. Together, they explore the critical components necessary for fostering an effective educational environment. Key topics include the importance of …
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Send us a text In this episode of the Crisis in Education Podcast, Dr. Paulie sits down with behavior analyst and professor Dr. Guy Bruce, Ed. D, BCBA-D, from Appealing Solutions, LLC, to dig into the pressing issues facing educational institutions today. Dr. Bruce shares insights from his extensive experience in Organizational Performance Engineer…
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Send us a text Unlock the secrets of the criminal mind with behavior scientist Presley Wanner, as we navigate the intriguing intersection of behavior analysis and forensic investigation. Imagine peering through the eyes of a behavior analyst at the crime scenes frequented by law enforcement professionals; we do just that, offering a fresh and compe…
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Send us a text In this enlightening podcast episode, Dr. Paulie and Clint Evans, known as the Behavior Chef, delve into effective strategies for promoting healthy eating habits among educators using Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA). This discussion is timely, given the higher obesity rates among early care and education (ECE) teachers compared to th…
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Send us a text In a recent enlightening discussion on the podcast, Dr. Paulie spoke with CEO of Futures Forge, Nat Green, about the transformative shifts in education and workforce preparation. During their conversation, Nat compellingly argued that the traditional college path might not be necessary for many individuals. Instead, the key to succes…
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Send us a text In our recent podcast, Dr. Clarence Cooper, a doctoral-level certified behavior analyst, joined Dr. Paulie to delve into the complex world of behavior analysis consulting in classrooms. Dr. Cooper discussed the significant challenges behavior analysts face when working in educational settings. Key among these is the difficulty of app…
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Send us a text In this episode, my good friend and Vice President at Aubrey Daniels International, Francisco Gomez, breaks down the application of Organizational Behavior Management strategies in organizations. If you are interested in learning more about OBM and leadership, this is definitely an episode for you. Francisco, an OOG in this space, ha…
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Send us a text Feedback is universally recognized as a cornerstone of growth and development, yet its delivery often falls short, missing the mark on fostering the intended positive impact. But, by recalibrating our approach to providing feedback, we can transform it into a catalyst for genuine improvement. In this episode, assistant executive dire…
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Send us a text In today's episode, we're diving deep into the heart of educational transformation with our esteemed guest, Dr. Jim Van Allen, a renowned speaker who travels across the country to share his insights on creating a thriving school and classroom environment. Jim, alongside co-author Jon Gordon, has penned the game-changing book, "The En…
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Send us a text Dive into the revolutionary world of professional sports through the lens of behavior analysis with my guest, Brett Yaris. Brett is breaking the mold by integrating Applied Behavior Analysis with NFL training methods. His unique path from special education to professional football coaching challenges traditional coaching methods and …
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Send us a text In this episode, seasoned Principal Anthony Chiles discusses the importance of focusing on the fundamentals for improving culture, climate, and ultimately, student achievement in schools. Principal Chiles is an authentic and servant leader who is making real change through practical approaches. If you are a district or school leader,…
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Send us a text In this episode, Dr. Paulie explores the realm of improving PBIS (Positive Behavioral Interventions and Supports) and Trauma-Informed Care, guided by the expertise of psychologist Mike Bonevento. Join us as we uncover practical strategies and expert insights grounded in the principles of OBM (Organizational Behavior Management) and A…
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Send us a text In this engaging episode of our podcast, we dive deep into the world of Positive Behavioral Interventions and Supports (PBIS) Tier I, focusing on its vital role in both mainstream and alternative education settings, with Dr. Bruce Tinor. As both a seasoned behavior analyst and a school principal, Dr. Tinor brings a unique and practic…
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Send us a text As a high school teacher in inner-city DC, Kareem Farah, founder of the non-profit, Modern Classrooms Project, witnessed chronic absenteeism, emotional dysregulation, and students with a wide range of skill levels in each class, making it impossible for each student to succeed. Today, he’s helping 58,000 educators in hundreds of coun…
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Send us a text In the latest engaging episode hosted by Dr. Paulie, listeners are given a front-row seat to the wealth of knowledge shared by Dr. Stephen Jones, a vanguard in educational strategy and student empowerment. They delve into the essential shifts needed in public education, the pivotal role of teacher and professor preparedness, and the …
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Send us a text Are you tired of the same worn-out discussions about the education crisis? Dr. Paulie and guest Steve Ward are flipping the script. This podcast promises more than just a rehashing of problems—it's a tactical playbook for revolutionary change. Listen in as they dissect the complex landscape of modern education, from the pitfall of di…
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Send us a text In this episode, David Roth and I emphasize the critical need for the field of behavior analysis to delve deeper into the concept of resilience. While the concept of resilience is widely acknowledged, there's a gap in our understanding of it. It's our goal to ignite a conversation and inspire action on the pressing issue of defining …
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Send us a text Ever been dumped? Remember that pain? Being broken up with is something that most people experience at some point in their life. Many learn and continue to move forward. But for some, it's a painful experience they try to avoid but end up living many times over. If you are one of those people, what might you have done more, less, or …
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Send us a text Dive headfirst into the intriguing world of behavior analysis with my good friend, Dr. Merrill Winston. In this fascinating discussion, we challenge the norms of traditional functional analysis in education, shedding light on the holistic aspects of behavior challenges. Anchored in the teachings of field pioneers like Brian Iwata and…
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Send us a text What does it mean to create healthier, equitable workplaces? How does behavioral science play a key role in this transformation? Join us as we welcome the insightful Portia James to answer these questions. Portia, a prominent leader in the field of behavior analysis, shares her experiences and passion for constructing fair workforces…
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Send us a text In this episode of the Crisis in Education Podcast, Sheryl Cababa, a researcher, systems designer, and consultant with well-known organizations like the United Nations and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, discusses leveraging research, storytelling, and systems thinking to benefit all stakeholders in education. Check out this tra…
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Send us a text Uncover the secret recipe for transforming school environments with our esteemed guest and friend of the show, Dr. Bruce Tinor, a behavior analyst and school transformation principal. In this episode, Dr. Tinor provides insights on building sustainable frameworks, understanding staff beliefs and values, fostering engaged learning env…
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Send us a text Hey there, fellow behavior analysts and seekers of knowledge! Get ready to dive into an eye-opening episode with Dr. Antonio Harrison, a true maverick in the field of applied behavior analysis (ABA). And guess what? We're not just sticking to the ordinary. Sure, ABA is like a superhero when it comes to helping those on the autism spe…
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Send us a text There are educational leaders who talk it, and those who walk it. Dr. Damia C. Thomas is a leader who definitely walks the talk. Though she excelled as a student during her K-12 education, Dr. Thomas had a rude awakening when she went away to college: Her urban educational experience had not provided her with the knowledge and skills…
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Send us a text From a behavior analytic perspective, trauma can be seen as an aversive event or series of events that have led to maladaptive behavior patterns or reactions to certain stimuli. When we understand that an individual's behaviors might be a response to trauma, we can respond more effectively. But how can we better understand trauma? An…
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Send us a text As an entrepreneurial Behavior Analyst, Dr. Emily Ice has participated in founding organizations within the non-profit and profit sectors for over two decades. Additionally, she has expertise in consultation and mentorship with applying Applied Behavior Analysis for the treatment of sleep disturbances. In this chat we discuss behavio…
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Send us a text Keith Storey received his Ph.D. from the University of Oregon. He obtained his BCBA-D in 2014. He is currently a Professor Emeritus of Education at Touro University in Vallejo, California. He served six years as a classroom teacher working with people with a variety of disability labels. The third edition of the book Positive Behavio…
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Send us a text In the episode, Dr. Nick Green and I dive into issues related to finding the right career, determining what success is, and effectively using data to improve and sustain organizational success. Email Nick: [email protected] Find him on LinkedIn: Nick on LinkedIn Behaviorfit Website https://www.behaviorfit.com Learn about Business …
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