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Ep. 111: Dr. A. Jan Taylor- Mentorship in the 21st Century: Guiding Music Educators in a Digital World
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin dive into a beautiful conversation with a world-class educator who invested in the lives of both Eric and Justin. This episode features the well-decorated Dr. A. Jan Taylor. Dr. Taylor has taught at every level and achieved great success. And was the former Choral Director and music professor a…
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Ep. 110: Adam Chitta- Deaf Students CAN be succesful in music!
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin dive into a beautiful conversation meeting the needs of every student. Specifically, our deaf students make up our various musical ensembles. To help us fully grasp this nuance, we had the pleasure of engaging with Mr. Adam Chitta. Mr. Chitta is the founder and owner of The Chitta Sound and an …
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Ep. 109- Authenticity is the NAME of the Game: Developing a Strong Care for the Names of the Kids We Teach
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin dive into the beauty of a name. Not just any name but specifically the students' names in our programs. There is something to be said about getting a child's name right. Listen in as both Eric and Justin discuss how we can make something so significant seem insignificant. There is confidence, c…
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Ep. 108- Sean Rodriguez- This and That: A Mariachi Directing Choir
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin get the great opportunity to connect with Mr. Sean Rodriguez. Mr. Rodriguez is the choir director at Southwest Legacy High School in San Antonio. Sean has such an interesting story of his journey into music, which continues to shape his purpose as a director. Listen in as both Eric and Justin p…
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Ep. 107-After the Ratings: How to Prepare for Next Year
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin discuss the aftermath of the results. What do you do once the scores have been given and the final festival or adjudication performance has finished? It is such a hectic time of rehearsals, sectionals, and clinics that once the final note has been played, all you really want to do is just get a…
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Ep. 106: Protecting Your Peace: Balancing Demands in Music Education
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin discuss the overworked and ever-tired aspect of music education. Both Eric and Justin walk down memory lane and remember the pivotal moments of their careers that raised a flag towards self-care. Listen in as the discussion of peace and the ways we can meet that need by reimagining the old way …
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Ep. 105- Seize Your Opportunity: Ricardo Brown
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin catch up with Professor Ricardo Brown. Ricardo Brown is the Associate Director of Athletic and Wind Bands at the University of Connecticut. He also serves as the Co-Caption Head of the Sacramento Mandarins Drum Corp. This has been a well overdue interview and it doesn’t disappoint. Listen in as…
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Ep. 104: Beyond Words: Colleague Reactions to the Symphony of Well-Spoken Communication
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin jump back in the saddle with a much-needed conversation about the art of communication. Specifically how it can hinder student progress when not valued. Both Eric and Justin have experiences where their ability to articulate well was met with surprise instead of normalcy. Listen in as both host…
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Ep. 103- The Hustle Outside of Music: Dr. Kelvin Jones
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin get the great opportunity to catch up with none other than Dr. Kelvin Jones. Dr. Jones is a world-class musician/educator and a product of The Jackson State University. He is the former director of the famous LSU Tiger band. Dr. Jones has since switched lanes and now resides in the world of rea…
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Ep. 102- Head and Assistant Directors: A Match Forged Through Truth and Grace
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin discuss one of the most important relationships in the life of a band program. This relationship is none other than the head director and assistant director. This week's conversation pulls back the layers and exposes the elephant in the room: lack of unity and collaboration. Eric and Justin div…
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Ep. 101- Dr. Andrew Hunter- This AND: Open to Innovation In a Traditional World
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin bring in their brother from another mother, Dr. Andrew Hunter, Director of Bands at the University of Texas El Paso. Dr. Hunter brings his convictions in this conversation about the concept of innovation in a world that can sometimes be caught up in tradition. This dialogue is filled with healt…
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Ep. 100- Four Years of Reflection, Service for Music Ed Podcasting
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Send us a text Well, it's finally here, episode 100, a momentous occasion and still slightly unbelievable. In this episode, Eric and Justin look forward by looking backward and reflecting on the work, the journey, and all the possibilities that lay ahead. Listen in as Eric and Justin envision what's next in the life of The Score podcast. Please che…
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Ep. 99 Inclusive Notes: Exploring the Rich Tapestry of Latino Music Education
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin continue their conversation about Latino music education. Think of this week's episode as a part two of sorts as the light shines on Eric and his Latino experience as a student and music educator. Justin digs into Eric’s experience as an HBCU student and how his love and loyalty to his cultural…
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Ep. 98- Celebrating Latino Culture and Heritage from a Black Music Educator's Perspective
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin discuss how you, as a music educator, can celebrate the culture and music of the Latino community in your program. This is a deep dive from the perspective of Justin’s point as a black educator. This vulnerable and honest conversation is his approach. Justin and Eric take an intricate look back…
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Episode 97 - Title I is Not One Size Fits All- There Are Levels to This
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin discuss the world of Title I schools. Eric and Justin have cut their teeth as educators in the Title I context, which can easily be typecasted as monolithic. Listen in as both hosts pull back the layers and the multi-faceted aspects that create the world of Title I. Let this episode be your gui…
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Ep. 96- Season 4- Back Like We Never left
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Send us a text Eric and Justin are back to kick off another season of The Score. We could not start this season without letting our listeners know about the new seasons of life we are in and how, even though they look different, the outcome is all the same. We may have left our places of origin, but IMPACT is still the name of the game. Please chec…
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Ep. 95- SUMMER BREAK! But with some BIG UPDATES from Eric & Justin
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin discuss some major changes that have taken place in their respective lives. Both Eric and Justin are excited about the new life changes and want to share them with our listeners. Don't miss out on these exciting times in the life of The Score Podcast. Tune in and check out this week's episode. …
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin passionately discuss knocking down doors of opportunities to create something new. This discussion is powered by the concept that we all have to do something to contribute to the world of music education. Whether it's a pedagogical approach, student relationship cultivation, or a nuanced way of…
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Episode 93- The Wife, The Mom, The Educator, and The Brand- The Hard Truth of Finding Balance- Jasmine Fripp
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin had the great honor of talking with educator extraordinaire Jasmine Fripp. Jasmine Fripp is the Director of Choral Activities and General Music at Kipp Nashville Collegiate High School. Mrs. Fripp is an innovator and world-class music educator. Yet, in this episode, she is speaking about someth…
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Ep. 92- Article: My Pretend Music School- Ivan Trevino
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric narrates an article, "My Pretend Music School," from composer and percussionist Ivan Trevino. Ivan, an active educator, currently serves as a Lecturer in Percussion at the University of Texas at Austin. He is also co-director of the Eastman Percussion Festival, a biennial summer festival hosted by the Eas…
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Episode 91- Trans Kids Belong: Nicolas Prosini & Ær Queen
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin get the chance to interview Nicolas Prosini & Ær Queen, two elementary school music teachers from Fairfax County Schools, Virginia. We explore the topic of trans kids in the music classroom and how music educators can create a safe, equitable, inclusive, and welcoming environment for them. Ulti…
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Ep. 90-I’d Rather Not Be Saying This To You Right Now- Introverts in Music Education- Aaron Staebell
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin get the chance to interview Aaron Staebell. Mr. Staebell takes us into the world of a introverted music. This birds-eye view conversation will give every listener a great insight into why understanding introverts in the classroom. Listen in as Aaron discusses with Eric and Justin the importance…
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Ep. 89- Beyond The Ensemble- Music Education for the Other 80%: Meghan O'Connor-Vince
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin get the chance to interview Mrs. Meaghan O’Connor-Vince. Mrs. O’Connor-Vince teaches Music Technology at Barnstable High School in Hyannis, Massachusetts. Meaghan has a great journey as a prototypical band director that has developed a deep passion and vision of the imminent possibilities for e…
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Ep. 88- Relationships Matter: Dr. Jack Eaddy
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin get the chance to interview Dr. Jack Eaddy. Dr. Eaddy is the Director of Athletic Bands and the Pride of the Mountains Marching Band at Western Carolina University and has a similar mindset to both Eric and Justin. Dr. Eaddy is a stark believer of authentic relationships and that they are the f…
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Ep. 87- Article: The Climb of Your Life- Jesse Cannon II
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Send us a text Article reading of Jesse Cannon II's most recent article in the TMEA Southwestern Musician magazine- The Climb of Your Life. Please consider Jesse for TMEA President-Elect! Why Jesse Cannon II for the TMEA President-Elect Southwestern Musician Support the show Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescore Email: podt…
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Ep. 86- Viva Mariachi! Interview: Ramon Rivera
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin get a chance to interview Mr. Ramon Rivera, Director of Mariachi in The Mt Vernon School District. You don't want to miss this episode as Mr. Rivera passionately lays out the need and power of developing a quality mariachi program. It is a great episode to inspire and give resources to those lo…
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin bring in the new year by discussing what recent changes have transpired at the start of 2023. The duo also discusses the experience of getting the opportunity to present and be a part of the Midwest Clinic in Chicago. In Rotation: Eric- Carin Leon & Grupo Frontera "Que Vuelvas" Justin- Donnie H…
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Ep. 84- Viva La Musica- Interview: Ani Silva-Berrios
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin interview elementary music extraordinaire Ani Silva-Berrios. Mrs. Berrios takes us on a journey of exploration and discovery in her classroom as she works to give her students an unforgettable experience. This week's episode gets into the vulnerability that we as educators must have, even in ou…
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Ep. 83- But, The Lyrics Are Inappropriate
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin discuss the relationship between lyrics and music. This relationship is what can cause a disconnect between students and directors. Simply because of a lack of knowledge or willingness to check out the newest sound in music. Eric and Justin discuss the barrier that can be in our band hall and p…
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Ep. 82- On The Beat- Interview- Tim Greene Sr.
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Send us a text On the Beat: A discussion in percussion pedagogy and common practices with Tim Greene Sr. In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk with special guest and friend percussion educator extraordinaire Tim Greene Sr. In this episode, you will get a chance to hear an honest conversation on the aspect of change in the world of music educ…
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Ep. 81- All Hands On Deck: How to Increase Parental Support in Music Education
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Send us a text Eric and Justin discuss their experiences building a foundational parental support group at various campuses. Each has experienced a wide range of levels of participation, from no parental involvement to a declining one but has been able to create the necessary space to increase participation levels while making parents feel valued a…
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Ep. 79- Re-release: Hip Hop Music Ed- RIP Jarritt Sheel
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Send us a text We received the news that our friend and past guest, Jarritt Sheel, had passed. We met via social media as he was a supporter and fan of our podcast. He booked us for several semesters to do guest lectures for various of his courses at the Berklee School of Music. In return, he would always reach out to us to celebrate our multiple m…
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Ep. 80- Re-release: ARTICLE- The Long Scars of Culturally Responsive Teaching: RIP Jarritt Sheel
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Send us a text We received the news that our friend and past guest, Jarritt Sheel, had passed. We met via social media as he was a supporter and fan of our podcast. He booked us for several semesters to do guest lectures for various of his courses at the Berklee School of Music. In return, he would always reach out to us to celebrate our multiple m…
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Ep. 78- Has anything REALLY changed in music education?- Dr. Sarah Gulish
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk with special guest and friend Dr. Sarah Gulish. Dr. Gulish is a music teacher and the owner of F-Flat Books Publishing. In this episode, you will get a chance to hear an honest conversation on the aspect of change in the world of music education. Hear hard truths and perspectives on where …
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Ep. 77- Why You Should Stay: How to Learn From Every Job- Interview: Ryan Clift
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk with our special guest Mr. Ryan Clift, the Director of Bands at Hightower High School in Missouri City, Texas. In this episode, you will get a chance to hear how to grow where you are planted even when the environment isn’t the greatest. We hope to affirm and encourage you not to let tough…
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Ep. 76- Authenticity Is Your Superpower-Interview: Jerell Horton
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk with our special guest Mr. Jerell Horton, the Director of Bands at Vestavia Hills High School in Vestavia Hills, Alabama. In this episode, you will get a chance to meet one of the most humbled and interesting educators in Jerell Horton. Mr. Horton will discuss what it means to be authentic…
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Ep. 75- We NEED You! Why Representation Matters
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Send us a text Eric and Justin are back to kick off Season 3! What better way to do that than by discussing representation? Listen in to hear why representation is important in every music classroom and band hall. The discussion reveals real-time application of putting action behind these conversations. So don’t wait-check out this week's episode t…
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Ep. 74- An Un-Caged Bird- Interview: Timothy Richardson
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk with our special guest Mr. Timothy Richardson, the newly appointed Director Of Bands at Eisenhower High School in the Aldine Independent School District. In this episode, you will get a chance to meet one of the most humbled and hardworking educators in Timothy Richardson. Mr. Richardson w…
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin discuss what it means to define success. This episode's conversation deals with how UIL Concert & Sightreading ratings keep us paralyzed and only define success with a number. This conversation is to help refocus and develop a deeper more authentic meaning of success for us as educators and the…
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Ep. 72- SEL Alone Isn’t Enough to “Save” Our Music Students - Interview: Darlene Machacon
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk with our special guest Mrs. Darlene Machacon, an elementary general music teacher and choir director in Orange County, California, a proponent of Social Emotional Learning. This episode's conversation deals with how the term shouldn't be educational jargon but something authentic that requ…
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Send us a text This week's episode addresses the biggest question music educators deal with throughout their careers. Where should I teach music? A question that can cause us to respond in many different ways. Eric and Justin discuss how they have been intentional about not letting that question push toward complacency—instead of being bold enough …
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Ep. 70- The Long Scars of Culturally Responsive Teaching-Jarritt Sheel-Article
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric narrates the most recently published article by Jarritt Ahmed Sheel, Assistant Professor of Music Education- Berklee College of Music, published Fall 2021 in the Massachusetts Music Educator Journal. Jarritt has been a past guest, episode 38, "Hip Hop Music Ed'. We hope you enjoy it! Jarritt's website Con…
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Ep. 69- The Art In Choosing A Quality Concert Program
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Send us a text In this week's episode, we address the thing that keeps all directors up at night, which is the UIL program. Eric and Justin discuss the good, the bad, and the ugly of picking that coveted UIL program for Concert Sightreading. To program or not to program, that is the question. The wisdom in this episode is focused on the vulnerabili…
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Ep. 68- We Teach Life! Music is the Icing on the Cake
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Send us a text In this week's episode, we address the art of life teaching. What is that, you ask? It's the method of pouring into our students' lives through our music rehearsal and classroom instruction. We get it. The sacred time of rehearsal and prep is very important. Yet Eric and Justin want to interrupt your scheduled rehearsals and sectiona…
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Send us a text In this week's episode, we address the elephant in the room and what has been taking band halls by a storm which is teacher burnout. Are you tired and ready to throw in the towel? Well, listen in as Eric and Justin discuss this ever-growing phenom and how we can better ourselves and care for longevity not only as directors but most i…
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Ep. 66- TMEA 2022- Latino/a/x Representation in Music Education
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Send us a text In this week's episode, we share a recording of our session at TMEA 2022. Eric had the opportunity to facilitate a conversation amongst three outstanding panelists. Each brought a wealth of knowledge to the table regarding their personal experience as products of public school music education and how they each take on the task to inc…
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Ep. 65- Article: Dispelling The Myths of Teaching In a Title I School
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Send us a text Today's episode is a reading of our article published in the September 2020 issue of TMEA- Texas Music Educator's Association Magazine- Southwestern Musician. PDF of Article Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescore; podthescore@gmail.com; The Score Podcast Website Support The Score on Patreon or Paypal Music Cre…
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Ep. 64- Debunking Stereotypes in Mexican Themed Music- Interview: Dr. Sixto Montesinos
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk with our special guest Dr. Sixto Montesanos. Dr. Montesinos is an Assistant Professor and Head of Instrumental Studies at Saint Mary’s College of California and wastes no time debunking stereotypes in Mexican-themed music. This week's conversation leads deeper into getting to the nuisance …
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Ep. 63- Welcome Back: Season 3- Year In Review
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Send us a text Welcome back everyone it’s been a while since we have given content but we are back and better than ever. In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk about this past season and what’s been happening in our lives as we enter this new year. There are quite few big updates that you don’t want to miss. We will also be discussing some pl…
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Ep. 62- New Kids On The Block: Tips for Your New Music Teacher Job
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Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin talk about some tips that will make this upcoming year manageable and effective. These tips may not necessarily revolve around a score or drill chart but they will help with efficiency, community, culture, and overall program vision. Eric will deep dive and unpack some simple but very major ite…
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