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What you do outside of your day job is what makes you unique, provides meaning and value, and makes you a better person. As presales professionals it is critical to your success to embrace all parts of your life, not just the things in your day job. Join Jack as he talks to industry leaders, influencers, and authors as they talk about their passions outside of work, and how that has made them better sellers and better people.
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Demo Jockeys

Jack Cochran, Adam DiTomasso

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Join your demo jockeys Jack Cochran and Adam DiTomasso for a weekly book club podcast. This weekly podcast will feature a different book each month from a variety of categories, which will be discussed from the lens of 2 seasoned presales professionals.
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Singer-songwriter Chris Difford (Squeeze) is joined by musical guests to talk about the highs and lows of their career in this new podcast from Help Musicians. Series 4 returns on Tuesday March 19th with James Blunt. Listen to our previous episodes now and find out more at http://www.HelpMusicians.org.uk
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Path to PreSales is an interview podcast that shares the stories of how people got their start in one of the greatest tech career paths that many have never heard of: PreSales. Join senior Sales Engineer, Matt Madden, each week as he speaks with PreSales professionals about their own unique journey into PreSales. In each episode, we'll surface actionable insights from our guest's journey into the role, including tips, lessons learned, and recommendations shared that will help you determine a ...
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Detroit City of Champions

Detroit City of Champions

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1935. The Great Depression. Detroit is ranked as the hardest hit city in America. Speramus Meliora Resurgent Cineribus Akin to a miracle something incredible began to happen. Detroit began to win in a way that had never been seen before…or since. The Tigers, Lions and Red Wings all won their first Championships. An unknown Joe Louis would rise to international super stardom. Speed boat racing, tennis, track and field, golf, bowling, swimming, firearms…champions all and all from Detroit. In t ...
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Jack Cochran is joined by Paul Krauss. We continue our conversation from the last episode. Today we explore how to better identify the things that lead to burnout and how to deal with it when you are experiencing high stress. Book discussed during the interview: Panic Proof: The New Holistic Solution to End Your Anxiety Forever by Dr. Nicole Cain P…
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Jack Cochran is joined by Paul Krauss to talk about the actual mental health science around focusing on yourself and the benefits to your job when you do so. Paul Krauss MA LPC is the Clinical Director of Health for Life Counseling Grand Rapids, home of The Trauma-Informed Counseling Center of Grand Rapids. Paul is also a Private Practice Psychothe…
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Jack Cochran is joined by guest Matthew James. The discussion focuses around video games, strategy, and how this can make us better sellers. Matthew Young James is a former banker turned top-performing Solutions Engineer. After starting his career at Goldman Sachs, Matthew saw the opportunity to revolutionize the financial industry through technolo…
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Jack Cochran is joined by guest Matthew James to talk about music and presales. Matthew Young James is a former banker turned top-performing Solutions Engineer. After starting his career at Goldman Sachs, Matthew saw the opportunity to revolutionize the financial industry through technology. Since then, Matthew has been in client facing roles at le…
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Ron Whitson joins Jack Cochran, continuing their conversation about tennis. In this episode they explore the deeper mental health benefits to tennis and other hobbies. Ron Whitson is an experienced Presales leader with a strong background in sales engineering and solution consulting. With a natural ability to take complex software and present it in…
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Ron Whitson joins Jack Cochran this week on Beyond Presales to talk about all things Tennis! Ron Whitson is an experienced Presales leader with a strong background in sales engineering and solution consulting. With a natural ability to take complex software and present it in a simple, straightforward way, Ron excels at connecting with audiences and…
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Send us a text Ever wondered how a single year could define a city’s sports legacy? Join us as we revisit the exhilarating year of 1935 when Detroit's Lions, Tigers, and Red Wings each clinched their first championships, earning the city the moniker "City of Champions." We’ll also marvel at the incredible rise of Joe Lewis during this golden era. F…
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Liz Anderson from the PreSales Collective finishes her interview on the show, talking about some of her various hobbies, more Dungeons & Dragons, and how DND has impacted her work. Find the PreSales Collective Pillars courses Want to get started in DND? Here's a newbie-friendly DND Discord community. Liz is the Director of Learning at Presales Coll…
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Liz Anderson from the PreSales Collective joins the show and talks about her hobby: Dungeons & Dragons! It's a great way to connect with people, and can help you going through a RIF or any hard time. Play DND and always have something to look forward to! Find the PreSales Collective Pillars courses Want to get started in DND? Here's a newbie-friend…
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Stop being so boring! What makes you unique isn't the fact that you "take a consultative approach" or "are a great listener" ... it's the things outside of work, such as that woodworking hobby, or the competitive underwater basket weaving championships that make you interesting. As a solutions consultant you need to embrace the side of you that is …
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Send us a text Step into the golden era of Detroit sports with us as Jamie Flanagan and Charles Avison unveil the meticulous research and dedication that brought the legendary athletes of 1935 back to life. Journey through time as Charles recounts his thrilling discoveries of rare memorabilia and the painstaking effort he put into piecing together …
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Send us a text What if a city could be crowned the "City of Champions" in a single year? Travel back to Detroit in 1935, a pivotal moment when the Tigers, Lions, Red Wings, and the legendary Joe Louis collectively put the city on the sports map. In this episode, we uncover the recruitment strategies that shaped the Detroit Tigers and contrast their…
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Send us a text What if the scouting strategies of the 1930s are the secret to modern baseball success? Join us as we journey through the foundational era of the Detroit Tigers, where the Mississippi River became a strategic dividing line for talent acquisition. We'll uncover how Bob Coleman and Del Baker's pivotal roles in the early minor league sy…
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Send us a text What if you could walk through Detroit's most glorious sports memories and meet the legends who lived them? This episode takes you on a nostalgic journey back to 1935, the year Detroit earned the title "City of Champions" with victories from the Lions, Tigers, Red Wings, and the meteoric rise of Joe Louis in boxing. Fast forward to t…
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For a bonus episode of his podcast, Chris welcomes Travis frontman Fran Healy. Emerging from Glasgow in the mid 90s, and now in their fourth decade together, Travis were inspirational to a number of like-minded British guitar bands like Coldplay, Snow Patrol and Keane. Travis 2nd album, 1999's 'The Man Who', was a became a huge hit globally, fuelle…
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Send us a text What if one year could define an entire city's sports legacy? Travel back with us to 1935, a year when Detroit was crowned the "City of Champions," and discover how the Lions, Tigers, Red Wings, and boxing phenom Joe Louis made an indelible mark on sports history. We'll unpack the rich interconnections between Detroit and Portsmouth,…
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Joining Chris is Mark Knopfler, the revered singer-songwriter and a masterful guitar player, with a totally distinctive sound and style. Always fascinated with music, Mark worked as a junior reporter and studied English before finally realising his long held dream of finding the right band. That band was Dire Straits, whose ascent was remarkable wi…
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Joining Chris for this episode is legendary PR man Alan Edwards. During his 45 years working in the music industry he's worked with the likes of David Bowie, The Rolling Stones, The Spice Girls, Michael Jackson, The Stranglers, Blondie, Paul McCartney and Amy Winehouse. Alan began his career under the tutelage of another music PR legend, Keith Alth…
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Joining Chris today is songwriter Guy Chambers, best known for his work co-writing hits like 'Millennium', 'Angels', 'Let Me Entertain You' and 'Rock DJ' with Robbie Williams. Having graduated from The Guildhall School Of Music, Guy went straight to work with Julian Cope, then joined The Waterboys before moving onto World Party. And alongside his h…
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Chris is joined by Scottish vocalist Eddi Reader for this episode, to chat about her fascinating career in music. From busking around Europe, to singing backing vocals for artists as diverse as Gang of Four, Eurythmics and Alison Moyet to finding fame - and having a number one single - with Fairground Attraction. But the band's success was fleeting…
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Chris' guest in this episode is Leeds born singer songwriter Corinne Bailey Rae. Though Corinne appeared to have success straight away with her first single, 'Like A Star', she'd already been through the painful process of having her first band fall apart - the punky 3 piece Helen she'd formed with friends. But a change in musical direction - partl…
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In this episode, Chris welcomes rapidly rising rock star Wolfgang Van Halen. Now fronting his own band, Mammoth, Wolfie made his stage debut at 16 playing bass alongside his dad Eddie and uncle Alec in the legendary rock band Van Halen. Like his dad, Wolfie started his musical journey playing drums, before also picking up the guitar and bass. For h…
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Chris Difford is joined in this episode by Sharleen Spiteri, the lead singer of the Glasgow band Texas, who've blended pop, rock and soul with huge success since their breakout single 'I Don't Want A Lover' back in 1989. The band have since enjoyed an incredible run of hit singles and number one albums, but have also overcome an 8 year hiatus and t…
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Lidia Vasileva joins us to talk about Stolen Focus and about getting into flow! Find Lidia on Linkedin or at https://www.packetmage.com/ This month's book is Stolen Focus by Johann Hari. Pick up a copy (or don't). Be sure to check out https://demojockeys.com/ for our full list of past and upcoming books, previous episodes, and more. Next month's bo…
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With Chris Difford for another episode of his podcast is Jack Cochrane, frontman for the West Lothian four-piece, The Snuts, a guitar driven act citing The Arctic Monkeys and The Libertines as influences. The band formed at school in 2015, with a single 'Glasgow' appearing in 2016, and since then, Jack and his band have enjoyed a remarkable and rap…
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It's hard to stay focused. We're hoping this month's book can provide some great tips and tricks to getting our focus back! Turns out things are not all as they seem. Join Jack Cochran and Adam DiTomasso as they get clickbaited this month. This month's book is Stolen Focus by Johann Hari. Pick up a copy (or don't). Be sure to check out https://demo…
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Singer-songwriter Gabrielle joins Chris to discuss her career as a music maker. The London born singer was a huge music fan growing up, loving the music she heard on the radio and TV from acts like Wham, Haircut 100, Duran Duran and Adam And The Ants. And she was also exposed to the records of Barry White, Motown, Michael Jackson and Bobby Womack w…
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Let's talk about all of the crazy annoying and sometimes distracting things that happen on all our calls and online meetings. This hilarious episode covers the camera, the mute button and of course dogs and traffic… Come and join the Demo Jockeys! This month's book is Stolen Focus by Johann Hari. Pick up a copy. Be sure to check out https://demojoc…
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On this episode of his podcast, Chris welcomes the Canadian singer-songwriter Ron Sexsmith to talk about the fine art of music making. Starting his music career in a band that couldn't really play, then screaming his head off in a hard rock band, Ron finally found his voice making music more influenced by his Canadian forebears like Neil Young, Jon…
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Sometimes you have to hide your facts within your stories. Like the medicine in the peanut butter or bologna for your dog. I mean, is there even a better way? There are BAD ways to tell stories! Adam, Jack, and special guest Mattie Stremic discuss Stories that Stick. Pick up a copy of Stories that Stick by Kindra Hall. Also mentioned Never Split th…
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Joining Chris for a chat about the fine art of music making is the amazing Norah Jones, who's released a string of albums that have constantly surprised and delighted, and which have covered a lot of ground musically; from jazz, blues and country to folk, pop and even punk. Norah burst onto the scene in 2002 with the hit single, 'Don't Know Why', f…
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Business storytelling needs an overhaul! Join Adam, Jack, and our guest Mattie Stremic as they talk about bad starts to demos, Vanna White, how everyone has a story to tell, getting feedback from others, and adding in specific details to keep your stories real. Pick up a copy of Stories that Stick by Kindra Hall. Be sure to check out https://demojo…
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Chris Difford is back with his charming and insightful podcast series, 'I Never Thought It Would Happen'. In this first episode in the new series, Chris chats to the ever-excellent James Blunt. James is a hugely talented and highly respected artist who has sold over 20 million records. His self-aware, self-effacing character is just part of his cha…
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This month Adam DiTomasso and Jack Cochran are discussing storytelling after reading Stories that Stick by Kindra Hall. Join us for conversations about motorcycles, sports, middle school failures, and why your stories probably suck (and how to fix that)! Pick up a copy of Stories that Stick by Kindra Hall. Be sure to check out https://demojockeys.c…
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Series 4 of the hit podcast 'I Never Thought It Would Happen' with Chris Difford is back on March 19th. We return with a joyous and eclectic guest list from James Blunt to Wolfgang Van Halen. From Norah Jones to Ron Sexsmith and all in aid of the wonderful charity Help Musicians. Find out more at www.HelpMusicians.org.uk…
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Join your cohosts Jack Cochran and Adam DiTomasso as we talk about everything related to presales and our lives as demo jockeys. This month's book is Doing Discovery by Peter Cohan, who joins us for this episode! Peter Cohan is the founder and principal of The Second Derivative and the author of the Great Demo! and Doing Discovery methodologies, fo…
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Join your cohosts Jack Cochran and Adam DiTomasso as we talk about everything related to presales and our lives as demo jockeys. This month's book is Doing Discovery by Peter Cohan, who joins us for this episode! Peter Cohan is the founder and principal of The Second Derivative and the author of the Great Demo! and Doing Discovery methodologies, fo…
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Join your cohosts Jack Cochran and Adam DiTomasso as we talk about everything related to presales and our lives as demo jockeys. This month's book is Doing Discovery by Peter Cohan. We have a community: Demo Jockey Slack Community! We will soon be opening up the backstage for you to listen and engage LIVE with us during our recording sessions. Chec…
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