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There are certain topics that are considered "taboo" within the church. Jay Lowder and his guests will discuss subjects that are important and relevant but often not discussed openly in church and the Christian community at large. You will hear emotional, insightful, & encouraging discussions on topics you have wondered about in the past. Jay and unique personalities will address the realities of life, marriage, suicide, sex, overcoming addictions, abuse and much more. We will release a new ...
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Real Atheology

Justin Schieber, Ben Watkins, Ben Bavar, Ryan Downie

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Real Atheology is a conversational podcast focusing on contemporary philosophy of religion from an atheist perspective which features discussions, interviews, and debates for philosophy of religion nerds of all metaphysical stripes.
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In this episode of Taboo Talk with Jay Lowder, Jay is joined by Andrea Waitley. Jay and Andrea discuss navigating trials, suffering, and trying to understand God's timing. In this podcast they talk about things we have all dealt with at one point or another- wanting immediate answers from God, wanting what feels like ongoing suffering to end, and s…
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In this week's episode of Taboo Talk, we are discussing all things LOVE! Jay is joined by guest's Regan and Brendy. Regan and Brendy discuss life as newlyweds, challenges they have faced as a couple, how they overcame them, and how they have helped each other grow in their walks with Christ. They share a sweet story of how they came to be in a rela…
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In this week's episode of Taboo Talk with Jay Lowder, Jay is joined by Ken Guidroz for Part 2. In this episode we hear of tragedy, repentance, and recovery. Ken shares an in-depth look at what it is like to be affected by addiction, and its consequences. Ken goes on to share how him and his wife dealt with this, and how with faith and forgiveness t…
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In this week's episode of taboo talk with Jay Lowder, Jay is joined by Ken Guidroz. This episode is Part 1 of a 2 Part episode. Through this conversation, we hear a powerful testimony from Ken. Ken dives into how addiction struck his family, and the effects of this emotionally and spiritually, and how even later there was redemption. Ken and Jay di…
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In this week's episode of taboo talk with Jay Lowder, Jay is joined by Missy and Kayley Lowder. In this episode, Jay dives into the topic of The New Year. With The New Year starting comes new goals, resolutions, and intentions. Jay, Missy, and Kayley give their takes on resolutions and goals they have set for themselves in the past. They also discu…
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This video is a response to a recent video by Christopher Cloos at Christian Philosophy Academy. Chris' Video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja9dldyWQwE&t=1445sIn his video, Cloos presents an objection to Schellenberg's divine hiddenness argument from a recent essay by Daniel Howard-Snyder which argues that, possibly, God may hide from people to a…
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In this week's episode of Taboo Talk with Jay Lowder, we are getting in the Christmas spirit! Jay brings on his wife Missy, and his daughter Kayley. They each discuss some of their fondest memories, their favorite Christmas, traditions, and the true meaning of Christmas. We hope that this year is your best Christmas yet, and that you are spending i…
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A few weeks ago, Gavin Ortlund of Truth Unites released a video exploring the argument from divine hiddenness and giving several objections to it. While I appreciated Gavin's wrestling with the argument, I did not think his objections are successful. This video seeks to respond to those objections by clarifying aspects of Schellenberg's reasoning. …
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In this week's episode of Taboo Talk Jay is joined by PJ Yarbrough for Pt. 2 of her story. Jay and PJ pick up where they left off as they discuss addiction and what PJ's early adulthood looked like. PJ opens up about personal struggles she dealt with, and how she found her way back to Christ and got involved in church. PJ shares an inspiring story …
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In this week's episode of Taboo Talk, Jay is joined by guest Shaniel "PJ" Yarbrough. In this episode, we hear Part 1 of PJ's story. She discusses the traumas she faced as a child in foster care, being born a statistic, and opens up about dealing with many different types of abuse. Pj shares an inspiring story of perseverance, and you won't want to …
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Welcome back to the Hiddenness Series. In the last episode, we looked at Schellenberg's concept of a nonresistant nonbeliever which plays a central role in his argument from Divine Hiddenness. To refresh, somebody is a nonresistant nonbeliever if they (1) fail to believe that God exists and (2) that failure is not the result of their resistance to …
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In this week's episode of Taboo Talk with Jay Lowder, Pamela Davis joins us. Pamela opens up about her childhood, struggles within her faith, and traumas from her young-adult life. In this podcast Jay and Pam also talk about the importance of forgiveness, as well as building a firm foundation in Christ. To hear more from this weeks episode listen n…
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In this week's episode of Taboo Talk with Jay Lowder, has on long-time employee Sharonda Donnell. Jay and Sharonda discuss all things Halloween related. Is it wrong to celebrate? What are demons? Is Halloween evil? In this episode we take a deep dive into all of these questions, and so much more. Jay shares some of his own experiences witnessing ev…
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According to Schellenberg’s argument from Divine Hiddenness, a nonresistant nonbeliever is, simply put, somebody who fails to believe in God in such a way that the failure is not itself the result of resistant self-deception. A key premise of the divine hiddenness argument just is the claim that such persons exist and/or have existed in the past. F…
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In this episode Justin Schieber continues the hiddenness series by presenting J.L. Schellenberg’s Argument from divine hiddenness. Since the 1993 publication of his Divine Hiddenness and Human Reason Schellenberg’s argument has received widespread attention and still generates deep engagement. This is because many atheists find it to be quite power…
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Broadly speaking, Arguments from Hiddenness are philosophical arguments with atheistic conclusions arising from the fact that either the felt presence of, the nature of, or the very existence of God is somewhat less clear than we might expect if God existed. As with the problem of evil, there is no single argument from hiddenness. Rather, there is …
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This week on Taboo Talk with Jay Lowder is guest Terry Blacker, who tells a story of how God saved him from drug and alcohol addiction several times and gave him a story to share with others. Terry proves that second chances do happen and that as long as you have breath, God can use your story to reach others. To follow Terry's Ministry, Restoratio…
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In this week's episode of Taboo Talk, Jay has on guest Tonya Mooney. Tonya shares an inspiring story of perseverance, trust in God's plan, and unwavering faith in the Lord. Tonya was in a freak accident leaving her in a situation she never could have imagined and is actively using her inspiring testimony to encourage others. To follow along with To…
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On this week's episode of Taboo Talk, Jay has on guest Carla Blanchard. Carla discusses the recent loss of her son, Kyle. Carla talks about ways that she was able to seek God out through this painful loss. She opens up about her family's journey through Kyle's sickness and how she remained faithful to God through it all. Carla has an incredible sto…
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In this week's episode of Taboo Talk, Jay has on guest Kathy Drake. Kathy goes in depth on what it looks like to truly seek Christ through God's Word, and the best way to do it. Jay and Kathy talk about ways you can study the Bible, how to get started, and how that can look different for everyone! Kathy discusses her own walk with the Lord and give…
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In this week's episode of Taboo Talk, Jay has long time friend Ronnie Hill as his guest. Something both Ronnie and Jay have in common, they are both evangelists. In this podcast Ronnie dives into how he came to know the Lord at a young age, and how he got started in evangelism at age 14. Jay and Ronnie also go over how you can be an evangelist to t…
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This week's taboo talk episode is the Part 2 of Norm Wielsch's story. Norm talks about his struggles in life and mental health. You can learn more about Norm Wielsch here: https://www.christ-centeredhealing.com/ Or get his book, available at: www.christcenteredhealingbook.com Or Amazon- https://amzn.to/3ynqaV5 To hear this weeks episode visit: http…
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This is our second discussion with philosopher doctor Kenny Pearce. In this episode we pick up the conversation by discussing Pearce's thoughts on the practice of apologetics in contrast to philosophy. This led to a consideration of what arguments for or against God may need to be retired or deemphasized. In particular, Pearce explains why the mora…
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In this week's episode of Taboo Talk, Jay's guest is Norm Wielsch. This episode is Part 1 of Norm's story. Part 2 will be the next episode. Norm opens up about some of his greatest life struggles, what it was like for him being a cop, and how he ended up behind bars on the other side of the law. His story is one that we did not see coming. Norm has…
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In this episode Ben Watkins continues his series on Hume with a look at section IX of Hume's Dialogue's Concerning Natural Religion. Section IX finds Hume's Demea, Philo, and Cleanthes presenting and subjecting to analysis a cosmological argument for the existence of God. Ben and Dr. Joe Campbell discuss the argument as presented and the various cr…
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In this week's episode of taboo talk, Jay has on Hank Hough. Jay and Hank discuss what life was like for Hank during a time where he felt he had no direction. Hank tells his story of redemption, faith in God, and how God gave him a newfound passion and purpose. God never gave up on Hank and had far greater plans than what the eye could see. To hear…
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In this episode, Justin Schieber sits down with Jeffrey Jay Lowder for a wide-ranging interview. Fans of the show will no doubt be familiar with Jeff's work. From founding Infidels.org and the Secular Outpost to his contributions to The Empty Tomb and his several public debates, Jeff has earned his reputation as a fair-minded and philosophically in…
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In this week's episode of Taboo Talk, Jay has David Hill on the podcast. David shares a story of deliverance and what true faith in God looks like. He discusses the lessons God taught him through a time most would lose all hope, a time when he was wrongfully convicted of a crime he did not commit. To hear David's story, check out the podcast now! F…
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In this episode, Ben Watkins sits down with Matthew Adelstein to discuss utilitarianism and theism. Utilitarianism, in its classical forms, claims that what we morally ought to do is act in ways that would maximize happiness and minimize suffering. This simple moral calculus is open to several important objections, but if true, has important conseq…
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In this week's episode of Taboo talk, our guest is Sara McDaniel. Sara opens up about her divorce, and some of the most trying times in her life. Sara shares an incredible story filled with examples of how God consistently pursues us. She discusses how she reclaimed her life and restored her home in the process! To Find Sara on Socials: Instagram: …
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Our newest podcast "Til death do us part" is out now! In this week's podcast, Jay is joined by his sister Alara. Alara recounts the day that her life was flipped upside down, and how God preformed a lifesaving miracle in the midst of it. She shares a moving story that you do NOT want to miss! To listen to this latest episode on taboo talk, click he…
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As a follow up to the last episode which gave a general overview of Hume's famous essay, Ben Watkins interviews philosopher Dr. Bill Vanderburgh on his 2019 book David Hume on Miracles, Evidence, and Probability. The conversation explores some of the reasons the text is often misinterpreted. The importance of placing Hume in his historical context …
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In this week's podcast, Jay brings on both Sharonda and Kayley. In this episode you'll hear different points of view on dating in today's world and what it's like. They dive into conversation about dating and marriage, discuss red flags, things to avoid, lessons they have personally learned and advice on how to have a healthy relationship!…
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In this episode, Real Atheology co-host Ben Watkins takes us on a tour through parts one and two of Hume's controversial essay 'Of Miracles'. Ben begins by providing context that serves to undercut some popular but ultimately uncharitable readings of Hume's central thesis. With the infamous argument clarified, other common objections are also explo…
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In this week's podcast Jay and Kayley dive into the "Why's of life." Jay takes a seat on the other side of the table this week while Kayley asks the questions. They go over questions that many of us have probably asked ourselves, or even God! Why do evil things happen and why doesn't God stop it from happening? Why do bad things happen to good peop…
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Perhaps the most common response to the problem of evil is an appeal to the goodness of free will. Free will, it is argued, is so good that it justifies God's policy of non-intervention in cases where evil is the result of the free actions of moral agents. in his 2019 article published in The Heythrop Journal titled The Moral Problem with the Free …
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Our newest podcast Kayley's Journey with Stills Disease is out now! In this week's podcast, Jay asked his daughter, Kayley to join him in discussing how Kayley's sickness began, how their faith was affected, and an update on how things are going now! Many of you have asked for an update on Kayley...where here's your chance to hear it straight from …
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In the second part of Ryan's interview with Dr. Kenny Pearce, they discuss some of the issues surrounding the debate between Protestantism and Catholicism. In the second half the discussion turns to the issue of apologetics and whether there exists a clean distinction between it and philosophy of religion.…
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In this first part of Ryan Downie’s interview with Dr. Kenny Pearce, strategies for productive dialogue with those who hold opposing views are discussed. The conversation then turns to discussing the value of historical approaches to philosophy. Finally, they discuss Leibniz contributions to philosophy of religion and the strengths and weaknesses o…
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Happy Valentines Day! A Look at Love podcast is out now. We are releasing this early for Valentines Day because Jay and Missy are talking about relationships, love, and marriage counseling. They discuss ways to strengthen your marriage, helpful tips they learned through marriage counseling, and breaking the stigma around it.…
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In this, the second half of Justin's interview with Dr. Dustin Crummett, they discuss an early paper of his in which he expands on an objection to the argument from divine hiddenness. The objection, known as the responsibility objection, claims that one reason God might have to keep belief from non-resistant persons is the good of the responsibilit…
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When Pastors Prey is out now! In this week's podcast Jay speaks with Sandy Phillips Kirkham. Sandy shares her story of abuse as a child/young adult at the hands of her pastor, how it affected her relationship with Christ, and the need for accountability in the Church. She also talks about warning signs and discusses outlets for those who are going …
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In this episode, Justin Schieber interviews philosopher Dr. Dustin Crummett (dustincrummett.com, https://www.youtube.com/@dustin.crummett, @Dustin_Crummett). Dr. Crummett received his PhD from the University of Notre Dame in 2018, and specializes in social and political philosophy, ethics, and philosophy of religion. In this first of two episodes, …
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Jay talks with Nick Liberto from provenministries.org to discuss when it is the right time to have the "Big Talk" on sex with your children. We live in a wildly sexually saturated world, with a digital device that connects us to anything and everything whenever we want it. Your child is most likely encountering sexual issues regularly, even as youn…
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In this episode, returning host Justin Schieber interviews Dr. Michael Hemmingsen on his 2020 paper titled Soul-Making and Social Progress which was published in the International Journal for Philosophy of Religion. John Hick's Soul-Making theodicy, according to which suffering exists to provide opportunities to develop our moral virtue, is a popul…
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