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Please Say Black is a podcast dedicated to uplifting conversations with folx across the African Diaspora. It is a creative extension of The AntiBlackness Reader platform. The podcast mirrors the goals of ABR (Anti-Blackness Reader) in amplifying Black truth and knowledge, centering Black stories and exposing anti-Blackness. Our host, Joquina Reed is deeply committed to valuing the lived experiences of people deeply impacted by colonialism, xenophobia, racism and anti-Blackness.
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Our True Colors

Dr. Shawna Gann, CDE

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Our True Colors is a podcast that explores the challenges of being racially ambiguous and focuses on identity and belonging. What’s it like when you fit everywhere yet belong nowhere all at the same time? If you or someone you care about might be considered a racial riddle, an ethnic enigma, and a cultural conundrum, this show is for you! Our True Colors is sponsored by True Culture Coaching and Consulting, a diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) firm aimed to help you and your organization ...
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This introductory episode introduces listeners to the premise of Our True Colors. In this opening episode, I discuss terms and concepts surrounding issues of race. The links below are here for your reference and to learn more. I encourage you to reach out to me and share your thoughts! What topics would you like to discuss? Do you have some feedbac…
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In this last episode of the Juneteenth Drop, I speak to Justice Educator, Activist, Minister, and my personal funny joke texter, Alicia Crosby Mack. Alicia and I have a engaging conversation about Black Theology and the Black Church. We unpack if what we think about with the term theology which includes imagination and creativity doesn't necessary …
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Historian, Writer, Educator, and Cultural Activist, Lisa Betty joins me for this episode of Please Say Black. Lisa is dedicated her work in challenging mainstream social justice movements' problematic views on various issues. Lisa and I discuss the impact of white supremacy on black communities and the importance of understanding its history and pa…
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In this episode, I am graced with the presence of Dr. Jenaya Perdue an educator and entrepreneur living in China. We discuss Jenaya's experiences as a Black expat and the global nature of anti-Blackness. The conversation touches on the decision to leave the United States, the concept of progress for Black people, and the challenges of accessing inf…
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Author, Liberation Activist, and Black Joy Advocate, Tina Strawn joins me for this episode of Please Say Black. During this episode, Tina and I discuss decolonizing one's life and prioritizing black joy and liberation. Together, we discuss the importance of pleasure activism, centering joy and celebration as a way to resist oppression, and the harm…
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This episode I am speaking with Guido Melo. Guido is an Afro-Brazilian-Latinx multilingual author and poet based in Naarm (Melbourne). We have an insightful conversation about how slavery affected the entire North and South America continents and not just the United States. 40% of the enslaved Africans that were brought to the Americas were found t…
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This is it, y'all! The last episode of OTC! Join the cohosts and me as we reflect on this journey and enjoy the sampler platter we've prepared for you as we talk about the themes we explored, lessons learned, and incredible growth over the years! About This Episode: Part 1: The Mixed Tape with Jason Season 2: I'm Gumbo, Baby! Season 2: What's in a …
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This week I am joined by Joquina M. Reed, my colleague and dear friend. She is the founding steward of J Reed Consulting LLC. She is also the curator behind the Please Say Black podcast as well as the Divesting from Whiteness Podcast. Kina is deeply committed to global reparations for chattel enslavement and creating shared humanity. In this episod…
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Yay! Yolandie is back after taking a few months to be with her little one (if you listen carefully, you'll hear a little bit from her, too! 👶). In this episode, Yolandie (and sometimes Olivia) tells us about a play she is working on and the complexities of identity and stereotypes. This all made me very curious and, despite my congestion (sorry, y'…
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Prepare to be inspired! On this episode of OTC, I am talking with Dija Henry. Together we discuss her work in film and how the work supports the empowerment of authenticity all the way from the people contributing to the film to those viewing it. We go on to discuss the nuances of having a multicultural family and the connections that younger gener…
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On this episode of Our True Colors, I had the opportunity to spend time with Velda Thomas - sharing our thoughts on identity, growth, and belonging. Velda Thomas is the author of Blended: Perspectives on Belonging. She was born and educated in England, UK with family ancestry from Africa, the Caribbean, and the America's. Healing modalities have al…
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What a fantastic episode I have for you this week! I am joined by Joe Huang-Racalto, a Civil Rights lobbyist, who works for organizations that defend people who are enslaved in labor and sex trafficking, abused children, minorities living with HIV/AIDS, and humane animal welfare. He retired from Capitol Hill on June 1, 2017 as Chief of Staff. Durin…
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Rach Kass is a Nursing Station Technician (NST), life coach, and podcast host and joins us for this episode to talk about her experiences as the White mother of her five biracial children. Also joining us as a guest host, while Yolandie takes some time with her new little one, is Sarah Bacerra - a two-time former guest on OTC. Rachel and her husban…
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In this very special episode, I have a one-to-one real-talk session with my son, Christian Gann. Christian is back for his second interview on Our True Colors. If you missed the first interview, you can check it out here. It's linked below, as well. In this episode, Christian talks about his experiences as a multiracial makeup artist and drag queen…
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This week we are back with Part 2 of the interview with Amy Daniels. If you missed Part 1, you can check it out here. In this episode, Amy and I continue our conversation about her lived experiences as a Korean woman who was adopted by White parents and what it's meant moving through spaces where people around you have certain expectations about yo…
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This episode is the first of a 2-part interview with my friend, Amy Daniels. I'd been wanting to interview her for a couple of years now, and she happened to be hanging out my place when we were like...let's do this! Amy is a superstar recruiter in the management consulting industry in the DC Metro area - sometimes called the "DMV" since it encompa…
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Daniel Washington is an I/O Psychology Master's graduate with a passion for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. He was born in New York City but raised in Atlanta, GA and moved back to New York City in August of 2018 to further his education in I/O Psychology. I received my Master's from Touro College in the summer of 2020. He is now I'm working towa…
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In this special episode of Our True Colors, Yolandie and I discuss Disney's new live action Little Mermaid, starring Halle Bailey as Ariel. Join us for this important conversation about social expectations and redefining norms. REFERENCES The Little Mermaid Trailer AI Technology Making Little Mermaid White Charlotte La Bouff - "Man Catchin' Beignet…
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After a bit of a summer break, Yolandie and I are back with our guest Ashnie Butler. Ashnie's story starts on the island of Trinidad with roots going back to Southern India. She has lived on the east and west coast of the United States, currently residing in Portland, Oregon, with her non-binary teenager. Her passion for cooking took her to culinar…
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In this episode of Our True Colors, we welcome Karlton Hoskins, #1 International Best Selling Author, Business Owner, Real Estate Investor, and Strategist. In this episode we talk about business and go all the way back to roots. Do NOT miss this fascinating conversation that takes us around the world and back in time. Resources related to the convo…
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In this fantastic episode with Payal Beri, we discuss what it's like living abroad for an extended amount of time as 3rd Culture folks. Along the way we talk about how this has equipped us to be empathetic and applying these life lessons to what we do every day. Come along for the ride! If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: STAR…
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In this intriguing episode of Our True Colors, Sandra Hunter joins us to talk about her work with Wild Women Leaders of Colour and shares her own experiences of identity and "herstory". Together we talk about leaning on each other...and our ancestors...for support as we as women of color navigate space historically dominated by white men. Resources…
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I am so happy to welcome back Season 3 Cohost, Carmen Watson, to talk with me about the news of the US Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade. I wanted to know her thoughts and perspectives as a Canadian and understand what conversations are happening among our neighbors to the north. Join us for this special episode as we discuss this incredibly im…
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Dr. Felicia Bell joins me for the latest episode of Please Say Black. During this episode, Dr. Bell and I reflect on the significance of enslaved labor throughout the United States. Dr. Bell’s research and testimony before the United States Congress has been significant in establishing a historical record that reveals the tremendous material offeri…
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In this episode, we talk with Rahimeh Ramezany about identity and making assumptions about who people are and what their lived experiences must be. Rahimeh is a Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Intercultural Specialist, whose work is focused on addressing the experiences of marginalized ethnic, racial, and religious communities in the United State…
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Ruthie Bowles is a US Army Veteran, mom to four kids, and lives in Maryland with her family, goats, and chickens. She focuses on bringing awareness to the unethical tactics and strategies in the small business coaching and consulting industry. Ruthie is also an audiobook narrator. She joins OTC this episode to talk about the difference between work…
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Join Yolandie and me this week as we chat with my wonderful friend, Twanette Barrett. She is a retired army vet and now a life coach living in Bali, Indonesia. If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Our True Colors is sponsored by True Culture Coaching & Consulting. Head to our website …
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While Washington, DC is the city where he resides, Dr. Christopher Riddick is a proud son of North Carolina and hails from the rural county of Gates. His upbringing was significant in shaping his identity and fuels many of his passions today. Dr. Riddick is intent on helping organizations truly exhibit what they frequently say but are often challen…
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We interrupt our regularly scheduled broadcast because racial terrorism is real and its debilitating. On May 14, 2022, a mass shooting occurred in Buffalo, New York, at a Tops Friendly Markets store, a supermarket in the Kingsley neighborhood on the eastern side of the city. Ten people were killed, and three others were injured; 11 of the victims w…
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Katrina Strohl (they/she/him) served as an Aviation Structural Mechanic in the US Navy. In 2018, Katrina decided to take their own life after internalizing the behavior of an unsafe workplace. They now serve others through their work in psychological safety, mental health and boundary strategy for people who share their identities or their lived ex…
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Welcome to Season 4 of Our True Colors! I am happy to introduce my co-host for this season, Yolandie Hamilton. She'll be hangin' with us for the season, so get to know a little bit about her in this episode. Yolandie Hamilton is a personal style and confidence coach, mom and proud to be the very interesting mix of Jamaica and Poland, with a lot of …
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My good friend Tommy Allgood joins me for the latest episode of Please Say Black. During this episode, he and I discuss Black Joy. Tommy shares an expansive understanding of Black joy. Together, we hold space to discuss the tensions that communally exist that may prohibit joy in light of our traumas. Tommy helps our listeners understand the power o…
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Celebrated Queer Artist, Techie, and Anti-racism Educator, Nandi Kayy joins me for the latest episode of Please Say Black. During this episode, Nandi and I inspire to celebrate and amplify Twerk Culture as an antidote to Respectability Politics. Nandi complicates our current interpretations of Black solidarity as they offer insights into labor and …
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My good sis Courtney Napier joins me for the latest episode of Please Say Black. During this episode, Courtney and I travail together reflecting upon the old adage, often credited to our dear ancestor Zora Neale Hurston, “All Skinfolk Ain’t Kinfolk.” Together, we hold space to share our feelings with the expression and unpack the ways we have embod…
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Andre Henry joins host Joquina Reed for the latest episode of Please Say Black. Andre shares the latest tea from his new book, All The White Friends I Couldn't Keep. Andre is an uncompromisingly powerful author, singer and songwriter. Listen to this robust conversation about the significance of embodying anti-racism practices in our closest relatio…
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Dr.Christena Cleveland joins me for the premiere episode of Please Say Black. Dr. Cleveland expands upon her latest book, God is a Black Woman. Dr. Cleveland shares the significance of self-compassion in Black Liberation and communal healing. Together, we hold space to name the sacredness of Blackness. During this episode, Christina mentions the si…
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Welcome to the Premier Season of Please Say Black! Please Say Black is a podcast dedicated to uplifting conversations with folx across the African Diaspora. It is a creative extension of The AntiBlackness Reader platform. The podcast mirrors the goals of ABR in amplifying Black truth and knowledge, centering Black stories and exposing anti-Blacknes…
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Join Carmen and me as we talk about our experiences, what we've learned, and the takeaways from Season 3. If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Our True Colors is sponsored by True Culture Coaching & Consulting. Head to our website to find out how True Culture Coaching and Consulting c…
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Our guest this week is Stefanie Kurgatt. Stefanie was born in Eldoret, Kenya but moved to the states at a young age and most of her childhood was spent in Tallahassee, Fl. She attended Georgetown University, where she earned her B.S. in Healthcare Management/Policy and M.S. in Health Systems Administration. She holds a great interest in health disp…
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Dr. Charletta Wilson is an industrial & organizational psychologist, an International Coaching Federation (ICF) Certified Professional Coach, Global Team Coach, TEDx Speaker and Certified Dare to Lead™ Facilitator at CaPeesh Consulting LLC. For over two decades, she’s served thousands of clients in business startups, leadership and organizational d…
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Haley and Megan are sisters who grew up in rural Louisiana. Haley is now a school psychologist working in South Louisiana. Megan lives in New Orleans and works in the film industry. These sisters love history and started making a list of historical figures who were mixed race a few year ago. Two years ago they decided to turn their list into a blog…
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In light of the continued violence against Asian communities around the US and, indeed, around the world; and in an effort to bring renewed awareness, I am bringing back an episode from earlier this year. Daniel Quan-Watson, a high-ranking official in Canada's Public Service, has a unique blend of experiences. He's held the highest Canadian civil s…
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My guest this week is Nikki Innocent. Nikki is a 2-time TEDx speaker, certified women’s leadership coach, diversity, equity & inclusion (DEI) strategist and the host of the podcast Checkbox Other, that focuses on the journey toward belonging. Five years ago, Nikki left behind her career in corporate America to live and lead fully as herself focusin…
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My guest this week is Dr. Shantel Gabrieal Buggs. Dr. Buggs is an assistant professor of sociology and African American studies at Florida State University, specializing in research on multiracial identity, representation, and romantic, sexual, and family relationships. She is currently working on an edited collection of essays on "queering" consen…
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Maris Lidaka is a filmmaker in Los Angeles and the creator of the Blended Future Project. Maris talks with me about his experience growing up mixed both in a mostly white suburb but also abroad in high school. This experience allowed him to gain some perspective on race and who he is. If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START …
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Natalie Forest, Ph.D. an intuitive transformational Mentor with a background in history and teaching. She is a teacher inside and out in all she does. She helps people going through a "midlife crisis" reconnect with their own unique self through addressing "the Hidden Power of Patterns" so that they can finally live their lives, their way. Natalie …
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Sarah Lotus Garrett is a life coach working with mixed adults and monoracial parents of mixed children. She was born and raised in northern California and has lived in Northern Italy for the past 15 years. She is a woman, daughter, sister, mother, wife, auntie, friend, world citizen, chef, gardener, creator of beautiful things, a napper, and a joy …
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How was the topic of race handled in your household? Something you've always discussed or an area that typically went untouched? Meredith and Cindy Palomo are a couple living in the Kansas City area. They recently paused a three-year endeavor as foster parents. They're lucky to have three amazing daughters, aged 20, 17, and 3. They have a passion f…
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Daniel Quan-Watson, a high-ranking official in Canada's Public Service, has a unique blend of experiences. He's held the highest Canadian civil service position, is fluent in both English and French, has lived in 13 Canadian locations, traveled extensively across the country, authored long-lasting legislation, overseen a prominent National Parks sy…
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If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Our True Colors is sponsored by True Culture Coaching & Consulting. Head to our website to find out how True Culture Coaching and Consulting can support you and your organization. You can find us at truecultureconsulting.com where you can also cont…
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