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We are in the midst of a data driven revolution, and it is going to change everything. This podcast is all about the intersection of business intelligence, data analytics, AI, privacy, data protection, cyber and information security. Hosted by Kate Carruthers this podcast will explore the new frontiers as data creates an entirely new economy.
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Make Me Data Literate

Dr Linda McIver, Australian Data Science Education Institute

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Make Me Data Literate features Dr Linda McIver interviewing fascinating people who work with Data, asking the question: What is the one thing you wish everyone knew about data? From Maths Education to Misinformation, we'll cover everything that's interesting about Data Science and how it affects us all.
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Kate shares her thoughts on us being at the very start of the AI revolution - we are in the Netscape stage of the journey (not the TikTok stage). She also discusses how Generative AI might just be the start of a new generation of user interfaces. And how AI will merge into autonomous systems - which will make things much more interesting. Episode p…
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This time my guest is the intriguing Quinn Dombrowski, whom I have been keeping an eye on via social media for ages due to their Textile Makerspace project and general all-round niceness and humanity. We had a fascinating chat about some non-traditional approaches to data visualisation. You can even study data visualization with Quinn at Stanford.…
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"So like while we would never believe that if we saw a stone rolling down a mountain, that if we all just stared at it and willed it back up the hill, it would do that, we do tend to believe that if we all individually do our part for the environment or ask people to just individually act that because people want that to be so and want that to work…
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This time my guest is Mark Nicholls. He is CEO of the Information Professionals Group , who help businesses to leverage digital technology to achieve their business objectives. We had an excellent chat about all of the IT good practices that still need to be done to ensure that good clean data can drive our business processes. A bit about Mark: “Wi…
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My guest this time is Adam Sharman from data consultants to the manufacturing sector https://dsifer.com/ - who “combine extensive experience in manufacturing, primary and food processing with world leading data analysis to help business leaders embrace the future of productivity”. We had an excellent chat about the uses of data in manufacturing bus…
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Mark Gray on technology. "people have developed a kind of implicit trust in the way that technology works. And I think partly it's because they don't actually understand how it works. And so, they just choose to trust it. I mean, I've got a lot of experience in programming. ...I would not trust a computer-driven car to not hurt me."…
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My guest for this episode is the charming and erudite Catherine Flick, who is an ethics researcher (and newly minted Professor) working with the Digital Observatory Research Cluster. We have been friends on social media for ages, most recently on the dear departed Pebble, and this was our first chance to chat. We had a fascinating discussion about …
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"Behind every business problem is a human being with some kind of need. And if we understand that, we can solve it and increasingly now every business is a data driven business, but you can't let data be the only thing you need to, we need to focus in on the human problems we're trying to solve. And that's probably one of the things that is making …
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This time my guest is the remarkable Dr Linda McIver, who is the CEO of the Australian Data Science Education Institute. We had a wide-ranging chat about the importance of educating the rising generation to make sense of data in the in the modern world. And, even though we did not talk explicitly about her book, Raising Heretics: Teaching Kids to C…
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My guest for this episode is Steve Wilson from Lockstep. He is my go-to human for all things relating to identity. As we were contemplating this episode we started talking about identity (which might not actually be the best word for it) and then Steve said “identity is all about data” and that is where our discussion started. Steve Wilson “Steve i…
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A truly thought provoking conversation about data and accessibility with an amazing Software Engineer and Accessibility Expert & Advocate, Larene Le Gassick. "The most popular statistic that is shared about disability is that, you know, if you don't consider accessibility in the web or in mobile apps, you are excluding at least 20% of folks who mig…
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To be fair it has been a hellish month at work so I decided to do a low key chat with a mate because I’m tired. This time my guest is Kobi Leins. Dr Kobi Leins (GAICD) is a global expert in AI, international law and governance. Leins provides strategic advice on selection, implementation and operation of technologies to drive business edge; creates…
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In this episode my guest is Peter Leonard. He is a guru in the legal data and tech space and one of my primary go-to people when I am thinking about data governance, data sharing, regulation, and AI ethics. Today we are talking about some of the issues that folks are going to need to think about as we all wing our way into the AI era. Episode infor…
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My guest today is Khaled Auf, and we will be talking about the benefits of a bi-modal approach to delivering Analytics, BI and Data Science . We also touch on tri-modal approaches (and even coin the very innovative quad-modal approach 🤣). I have known Khaled for years and we have often chatted about the next big thing in data. Nowadays the next big…
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This time my guest is Fiona Tweedie. She has been thinking about the need for explainable AI for a long time. We had a fascinating chat on why this is important, why we should care about AI being explainable, some of the risks associated with AI not being explainable. Fiona Tweedie fell in love with the transformative power of data when working on …
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For this episode of the Data Revolution podcast my guest is Gladwin Mendez. Today we are going to be talking about the important other things that data and technology need to work - people and process. Gladwin is passionate about making a difference to the world through data and relishes the opportunity to expand that to the wider global stage. He …
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Everyone seems to be running around trying to work out what the new surge in AI that is driven largely by the growth in generative AI. And so many people are being all doom and gloom about how AI will kill us all, and others saying we will all lose our jobs. And today I will discuss how we will need to look at how our data teams work and the new ro…
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For this episode I am joined by a well-known data leader - Felipe Flores - who is talking about things you need to do as a data leader when you start a new role. Felipe is a data science senior executive with almost 20 years experience. He has worked across data engineering/warehousing, reporting, business intelligence, analytics, data science, mac…
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Thinking about data protection. Transcript available here ENISA threat landscape: https://www.enisa.europa.eu/topics/cyber-threats/threats-and-trends NIST Cyber Security Framework: https://www.nist.gov/cyberframework Thanks for listening! You can find more episodes at datarevolution.tech © Kate Carruthers – Data Revolution Podcast 2023 https://data…
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In this episode I am having a chat with Mark Pesce - well known futurist, inventor, author, educator and broadcaster - about artificial intelligence (AI). We talk about how fast AI is moving, in weeks and days not months or years anymore. And we also talk about some of the scary stuff and how this technology does not have agency (yet), and about ho…
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In this episode Kate talks about why data governance is important and the features of a good data governance program. With a slight digression on why data is not the new oil and the problem with data. Thanks for listening! You can find more episodes at datarevolution.tech © Kate Carruthers – Data Revolution Podcast 2023 https://datarevolution.tech/…
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In this episode Kate Carruthers covers her personal journey into the world of data and gives an overview of some key concepts for future episodes of the Data Revolution podcast. The picture on this episode is a waratah from one of my bushwalks. Thanks for listening! You can find more episodes at datarevolution.tech © Kate Carruthers – Data Revoluti…
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"I remember my first day at university, I was one of those overly friendly people who introduced myself to everyone in a lecture theatre of a thousand and never saw those people again. I remember sitting there in that first term, one of the lecturers did say 'just be aware. we are another species, we're an animal, but the data would suggest that we…
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Antony Green is well known as the ABC's Election Data Specialist, and he generously shared his time and expertise in a wide ranging conversation about the statistics of elections, how stats are misused, and what he wishes everyone knew about data. Turns out there's a vast amount of preparation that goes into those fascinating election night broadca…
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This is an infuriating interview with Polly Hemming, Senior Researcher at The Australia Institute. Polly is amazing, but the interview is infuriating because of the outright deceit practiced in the field of Climate Data and Carbon Credits. I kept wanting to stop the interview to scream and throw things. An enlightening, fascinating, and enraging co…
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"Particularly in the Indigenous context, We're really keen to unpack this notion of research objectivity or independence. To make the point that the person who's doing the evaluation/data analysis really brings their own social and cultural baggage to that question. So on that basis we're trying to make the case that it's important for Indigenous p…
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An amazing chat that ranged over the power of data storytelling, the impact of scientific fraud, and how to stay positive in the face of environmental catastrophe, Professor Euan Ritchie is a remarkable science communicator, an Ecologist, and a seriously lovely human being."Data is power and knowledge, and if we have good data it gives us opportuni…
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"The first thing I think [about graphs] is: what story am I supposed to believe when I see this? What are they trying to make me think? And then immediately, once you understand 'oh they want me to think that it's really big, or it's going down really quick, this pattern is abnormal…' then I immediately think 'what other stories also fit that data?…
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"So economics calls itself the science of the efficient allocation of resources. It tells itself that we help answer the question of what to produce, when to produce, and for whom to produce… but there's nothing in economics that says we shouldn't collect more tax and have a health system that's as good as the Nordic countries. There's nothing in e…
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It's this really tense balance between the side that treats data as if it's almost reality itself, it's so accurate and precise, and empirical, that it's almost like you're holding the real world in your hand… on the other hand you have the overly sceptical side which is basically someone who has been burnt in the past, like they looked at the back…
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Mel is a data advocate, designer, storyteller, maker and founder of Nook Studios. This episode is a fascinating look at the case for Open Data, Government Transparency, and accessible Data Story Telling. “I think there’s a lot of work to be done and there’s a lot more impetus now, because the public have that awareness… Continue reading Mel Flanaga…
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“I love that the thing that I work on is actually so consequential to better decision making, to solving real world problems. To understanding and evaluating forces in our world. I just love that I’m part of a way of making a difference that has applications in so many settings.” “How do we start to… Continue reading Ellen Broad talks Cybernetics, …
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Alan Duffy talks Data Literacy and Astronomy. "We are so keen to get into problem solving mode and we don't spend enough considered time checking and cleaning the data, because that's not as much fun as training a machine learning algorithm and seeing what it comes out with. "By Dr Linda McIver, Australian Data Science Education Institute
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Make Me Data Literate kicks off with an interview with Professor Adrian Esterman, Epidemiologist and Biostatistician. One of the big problems with experts, whether economic experts or any other sort of science expert, is that they have a lot of trouble bringing their conversation down to the level of the general public. It's not their fault, it's w…
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