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“Exegetically Speaking” is a weekly podcast of the friends and faculty of Wheaton College, IL and The Lanier Theological Library. Hosted by Dr. David Capes, it features language experts who discuss the importance of learning the biblical languages—Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek—and show how reading the Bible in the original languages “pays off.” Each podcast lasts between seven and eleven minutes and covers a different topic for those who want to read the Bible for all it is worth. Click on the ...
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The Stone Chapel Podcast

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“The Stone Chapel Podcast” is a weekly podcast of the friends and staff of The Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center in Houston, Texas. It is hosted by David Capes, Director of Academic Programming of the Lanier Theological Library and Learning Center. David is an engaging host, a respected New Testament scholar, and the author of Rediscovering Paul and Matthew through Old Testament Eyes. “The Stone Chapel Podcast” features theologians, scholars, and thought leaders from around the ...
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Scientist and genealogist, Dr. Nancy Dawson, is back on this episode of The Stone Chapel Podcast to talk about another “grandmother” of Jesus. Bathsheba is not named in Matthew’s genealogy of Jesus (Matthew 1). She is referred to as “the wife of Uriah.” David fathered Solomon “through the wife of Uriah.” Matthew’s comment on the genealogy echoes th…
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Eve’s words about her newborn son, Seth, which are her last recorded words, echo the Hebrew words to the serpent in Gen. 3:15, signaling Eve’s persevering hope in God’s deliverance. Dr. Ingrid Faro, who has contributed to this podcastbefore, is Professor of Old Testament at Northern Seminary in Lisle, IL. Among other things, she is the author of Ev…
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This week Dr. Nancy Dawson is back to talk about two other remarkable women, grandmothers of Jesus: Rahab and Ruth. These women became famous as converts to the faith of Abraham and are part of the family line of Jesus. What else do they have in common? Listen to Nancy, and see if you can figure it out. Dr. Dawson is author of an important book, "A…
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Some claim that John 1:1 states that Jesus is ‘a god.’ Others claim that it states that Jesus is God. What is in fact the best way of understanding the Greek language employed? Grammatical parallels can shed some light. Dr. Michael Licona is Professor of New Testament at Houston Christian University. His publications include Why Are There Differenc…
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Matthew’s Gospel begins with the genealogy of Jesus and includes five remarkable women, one of whom was his mother. In this episode, scientist and genealogist, Nancy Dawson unpacks the story of the least known of the women, Tamar. Matthew’s inclusion of these women was purposeful not accidental, but why? Listen to Nancy, and I think you will know w…
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In his previous conversation centered on Rom. 1:16-17, Roy Ciampa contextualized the unique phrase ἐκ πίστεως (translated there as, “through faith”) in Greek writings generally and Romans in particular. He now studies this phrase throughout Galatians, with special reference to Gal. 2:16. In addition to his posts at Samford University and Gordon Con…
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Dr. Jahdiel Perez joins David Capes on "The Stone Chapel Podcast" to discuss some of his recent research. Specifically, he is investigating the claims by anti-theodicists that explaining God's relation to pain, grief, and suffering is actually harmful to people who are suffering. The Stone Chapel Podcast is part of the ChurchLeaders Podcast Network…
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Nowhere in all known Greek writings is the precise phrase ἐκ πίστεως (“out of” or “from faith”) found until the Greek version of Habakkuk 2:4, and some of the scribes transmitting that text altered it. It is this phrasing that Paul adopts in the crucial lines of Roman 1:16-17, and rewords elsewhere. What, then, was the intended sense of this unique…
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The Greek language Paul uses in 1 Corinthians 15 to convey the gospel’s teaching of Jesus’ resurrection lodges this in authoritative tradition dating back to months after the events. The center of God’s self-revelation and salvation is more firmly attested than anything else in Scripture. Dr. Gary Habermas is Distinguished Research Professor in the…
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In this special Encore edition of the Stone Chapel Podcast. Dr. Amy Orr-Ewing joins Dr. Capes to talk about her book, "Mary’s Voice." It’s a terrific Christmas devotional that takes us back to Mary, the mother of Jesus. She is the first and perhaps most important witness to the Incarnation. The Stone Chapel Podcast is part of the ChurchLeaders Podc…
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In part two of our podcast with Esau McCaulley, he talks about African American biblical interpretation and how he finds value in every culture in every age. Finally, the conversation turns to his role as a public theologian. For more information about The New Testament in Color click here. For the companion book, Reading While Black, click here. T…
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What happens when your modern English translation renders the meaning of biblical names, connecting this with the practices of the ancient Hebrews and traditional Native Americans? Terry M. Wildman, of Ojibwe and Yaqui ancestry, is the Lead Translator, Editor, and Project Manager of the First Nations Version. He is the Director of Spiritual Growth …
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Dr. Esau McCaulley, Associate Professor of New Testament and Public Theology at Wheaton College, joins David Capes to talk about a New Testament Commentary he edited. It is called The New Testament in Color (InterVarsity Academic). In this episode, he talks about African American biblical interpretation and his own, spiritual journey. This is part …
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An important verb in Gal. 5:2 could be either passive voice or middle voice. It is translated, “if you accept circumcision” (ESV) or “if ye be circumcised” (KJV) or “if you have yourselves circumcised” (NAB). Verse 4 is sometimes translated, “You are severed from Christ” (ESV) or “You . . . have been alienated from Christ” (NIV). Consideration of t…
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Dr. Michael Licona, Professor of New Testament at Houston Christian University, joins David Capes on the Stone Chapel Podcast. After coming through a period of doubt and questioning in his own life, Mike found his way back to an even better, more informed type of faith. Now he reads the Gospels like what they were, ancient biographies. He has writt…
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Does Rom. 13:1 leave room for sanctioned rebellion against a government? Take 1775 for example. Dr. Michael Bird is Deputy Principal and Lecturer in New Testament at Ridley College (Melbourne, Australia). His many publications include Romans: Greek-English Interlinear | Paraphrase | Study Notes, Jesus among the gods: Early Christology in the Greco-…
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Brant Pitre joins David Capes on The Stone Chapel Podcast to talk about his new book, Jesus and Divine Christology (Eerdmans). Brant is Professor of Sacred Scripture at the Augustine Institute in St. Louis, Missouri. He is also author of Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist: Unlocking the Secrets of the Last Supper along with other books on …
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In Jesus’ prayer of John 17 he prays for future generations of believers with special emphasis on their oneness. Karen Jobes provides a close reading of the Greek of this astonishing and vital passage. Dr. Karen Jobes is Gerald F. Hawthorne Professor of New Testament Greek and Exegesis, Emerita, at Wheaton College & Graduate School. She has authore…
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Terry Wildman joins David Capes again on The Stone Chapel Podcast. He is an indigenous church leader who makes his home in Phoenix, along with his wife, Darlene. He led the effort to create the First Nations Version: An Indigenous Bible Translation of the New Testament (InterVarsity Press). You can hear David’s and Terry’s conversation about that h…
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Greek verbs have been traditionally labeled “tenses,” but many grammarians have for some time argued that “tense” is not the best way to explain what is going on. The linguistic category of “aspect” is a more powerful theoretical explanation. But what is “verbal aspect” and how does this theory affect the reading of Greek texts? Dr. Constantine Cam…
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Gary Habermas has spent a lifetime studying the resurrection of Jesus and asking: did Jesus truly rise from the dead? He just published volume two in a four-volume series on the resurrection published by Broadman & Holman. Dr. Habermas will deliver the fourth annual John Warwick Montgomery lecture in Evidential and Legal Apologetics at the Lanier T…
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Because he was known for his baptisms, and because English transliterates the Greek words, John’s nickname as “the Baptist” provokes little thought. It ought to. Dr. James F. McGrath is Clarence L. Goodwin Chair in New Testament Language and Literature at Butler University. His publications include Christmaker: A Life of John the Baptist and (forth…
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Dr. Ingrid Faro is Professor of Old Testament at Northern Seminary in the western suburbs of Chicago. She was recently a Visiting Scholar at the Lanier Theological Library in Houston and sat down with David Capes to talk about her book, Demystifying Evil. Ingrid began her study of evil and suffering after an extensive period of trauma and abuse. Th…
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Phil. 1:27 is translated by the NIV as, “conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel,” while the NLT translates it as, “you must live as citizens of heaven, conducting yourselves in a manner worthy of the Good News.” Here and in 3:20 Paul is using a Greek verb and noun that he uses nowhere else in his letters, aside from a related word in E…
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Recently, Dr. James McGrath, professor of New Testament Literature at Butler University, made his first visit on The Stone Chapel Podcast. He and David Capes discussed his new book, Christmaker: A Life of John the Baptist (Eerdmans). The provocative title came to McGrath to describe the life and legacy of the Baptist. McGrath shares with us his inc…
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The Lord’s Prayer in Matthew 6 reads in the NIV: “Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.” In the Greek wording, the first occurrence of the word ‘heaven’ is plural in form, but the second is singular. Close attention to this difference across the Greek OT and NT reveals a diff…
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Dr. Michael Bird returns to The Stone Chapel Podcast to talk with David Capes about his recent book, co-authored with Tom Wright, entitled Jesus and the Powers: Christian Political Witness in an Age of Totalitarian Terror and Dysfunctional Democracies. Bird and Wright teamed up to write about politics, the kingdom of God, and theology in light of t…
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Prof. N. T. “Tom” Wright returns to our podcast to discuss Eph. 3:10 and its vision for the church in the present age: God’s “intent was that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known.” God created us so that through us he could show the world who he is, in particular, by a community of all races and nations drawn tog…
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Constantine Campbell, professor and research director at the Sydney College of Divinity in Australia, joins David Capes on The Stone Chapel Podcast to talk about a new edition of a well-known book, Basics of Verbal Aspect in Biblical Greek (2nd edition, Zondervan Language Basics Series). He and David nerd out a little on the Greek, but they demonst…
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Esau McCaulley (PhD, St. Andrews University) joins David Capes on the Stone Chapel Podcast to discuss his upcoming lecture at the Lanier Theological Library, October 12, 2024. His title is “The Gospels and the Anti-Slavery Movement.” Many scholars and critics of the Bible conclude that the proper reading of the Christian Scripture promotes slavery …
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The Gospels tell us the story of John the Baptist and Jesus in distinct ways. Mark’s narrative is a fast-moving action story, comparable in some ways to John Grisham’s style. Attention to Mark’s use of the aorist tense in particular helps us appreciate where the real action is. Michael Kibbe earned his Ph.D. at Wheaton Graduate School, and is Assoc…
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John Peckham returns to The Stone Chapel Podcast to discuss a new book, titled "Why We Pray: Understanding Prayer in the Context of Cosmic Conflict" (Baker Academic, 2024). Rather than conceiving of prayer as merely communication one to another, Peckham asks of us to put prayer within the context of what is and has been going on since creation; the…
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Psalm 46 is a psalm for our moment, and its encouraging message is amplified when read in Hebrew. The psalm reminds us that amidst the nations in uproar, and battles, and devastations, and mountains falling into the sea, the God of Jacob is our high fortress, lifting us above the chaos. Our instinct in turmoil is to tighten our grip on things. The …
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Dr. Amy Orr-Ewing is an international author, speaker, and influencer from near London. She will lecture at the Lanier Theological Library on the weekend of 20-22 September 2024. Her topic: “C. S. Lewis and the Problem of Pain.” In this podcast we provide a bit of apreview to that lecture. Click here for a description of that weekend’s lecture: htt…
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1 Peter 2:23 is translated in the NIV as, “When they hurled their insults at him, he did not retaliate; when he suffered, he made no threats.” Close attention to the Greek grammar can illuminate that Christ’s non-retaliation was an enduring one, outlasting the repeated attacks made on him. Dr. Darian Lockett is Professor of New Testament at Talbot …
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In September 2024 the Lanier Theological Library in Houston will host the 2024 Earle Lectures in Biblical Studies for the Nazarene Theological Seminary (NTS) in Kansas City, Missouri. Dr. Michael Gorman, widely known for his work in hermeneutics, Paul, and John, will deliver the lectures which will be streamed all around the world and presented liv…
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In Daniel 12:2-3 the dead awake, some to life, some to shame and contempt. This has long been understood to refer to bodily resurrection, one of a few such OT passages. But there are indications in the text’s language that its intended sense is otherwise. John Walton, Old Testament Professor Emeritus at Wheaton Graduate School, is a frequent contri…
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World acclaimed mathematician and Christian scholar, John Lennox, returns to the Stone Chapel Podcast, this time to talk with David Capes about his recent book, Friend of God: The Inspiration of Abraham in an Age of Doubt (SPCK, 2024). Lennox writes about Abraham with passion and insight into the whole of Scripture. Abraham’s faith becomes the stuf…
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1 Timothy 4:1 is translated by the NLT, “Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith.” Some take the Greek behind “the last times” to mean “the last days,” the extreme end of history. But is that Paul’s meaning? Dr. Jermo van Nes is Assistant Professor of New Testament at Evangelische Theologi…
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Dr. Stanley Porter is a well-known New Testament scholar. He is also president and dean of McMaster Divinity College in Hamilton, Ontario. He and Bryan Dyer, Baker Academic Books, co-authored a new book investigating the New Testament’s titles and traditions associated with Jesus. Stan joined David Capes on the Stone Chapel Podcasts to talk about t…
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Proverbs 15:12 is translated, “mockers resent correction” (NIV), “scoffers do not like to be rebuked” (NRSV), “mockers hate to be corrected” (NLT), and in other ways. Close attention to the Hebrew wording enhances our awareness of the character type (the scoffer) and the response to reproof (does not love it). Dr. Arthur Keefer is a Presbyterian Mi…
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The First Nations Version is a new Bible translation created by and created for native Americans. The project director, Terry Wildman, joined David Capes on The Stone Chapel Podcast to talk about the impetus to the translation and to read selections. You can read the transcript of this episode here: https://churchleaders.com/podcast-episode/stone-c…
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A close and careful reading of the words and grammatical constructions of Revelation 3:20 will clarify at whose door the Lord stands, and the strong encouragement of what he is doing there. Dr. Scott Duvall is Fuller Professor of New Testament at Ouachita Baptist University. Among his publications are (with J. Daniel Hays), Grasping God's Word, Fou…
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Interpreting the Bible begins with wrestling with the original context. In part that means understanding the genre of the literature (Gospel, history, letter, apocalypse, etc.) and the genres embedded in them (hymns, letters, confessions, preformed traditions, riddles, etc). Dr. Jeannine Brown, Professor of New Testament at Bethel Seminary (Minneap…
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When an OT character is first introduced in narrative literature, we are typically given important clues about who they are and what they are going to do. So it is with Elijah, a foreigner who would seem to be an unlikely opponent of Baal worship. Dr. David Firth is Old Testament Lecturer at Trinity College, Bristol, UK. Among his publications are,…
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In this episode of the Stone Chapel Podcast, David Capes talks with N. T. Wright about his book, Jesus and the Powers (Zondervan). Wright and his co-author, Michael Bird, are deeply concerned about the political polarization in cultures now across the globe. And they are more disturbed with how Christians are responding in the midst of it. Wright a…
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Among the spiritual gifts Paul lists in Romans 12 is diakonia, often translated simply as “ministry” or “service.” The social context of the Greek speaking world can assist us in understanding more fully what this term signified for them. Dr. Teresa McCaskill is an independent researcher who resides in central Florida. She has authored Gifts and Ri…
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Stone Chapel Podcasts hosted by David Capes https://www.laniertheologicallibrary.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/TSC_199-Rebirth-2.0-final.mp3 Episode 199 Rebirth 2.0 with Jonathan Brant Jonathan Brant was recently at the Lanier Theological Library in Houston. While there, he delivered a great address. He stopped by and talked with David Capes on T…
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“Train up a child in the way he should go” (KJV) is a popular proverb, but to understand what it means we have to understand what biblical proverbs are, and what key Hebrew words of this proverb likely intend. Dr. Richard Schultz is the Blanchard Professor of Old Testament in Wheaton College Graduate School. In addition to other publications, he ha…
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Stone Chapel Podcasts hosted by David Capes https://www.laniertheologicallibrary.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/TSC_198-Lost-World-of-the-Prophets-final.mp3 Episode 198 Lost World of the Prophets John Walton was recently at the Lanier Theological Library in Houston. He addressed a packed house on a topic related to the book of Daniel. Recently, h…
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