Best Lizz Enns Petters and Esther Joy Goetz Podcasts (2024)

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Reclaiming Internal Authority - Esther Joy Goetz 45:59

2M ago45:59

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We tend to look for answers outside ourselves. From books. Church. From friends or family. Even from society. We are called deeper, to sink down inside ourselves, where what we need is intertwined with what the Divine has to offer us. The place where we can trust and rest and then go and do. (Esther Goetz) Our guest this week is our very own Esther…

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Giving Up God - Sarah Henn Hayward 58:56

2M ago58:56

58:56

“We are meaning-making machines. Chaos is uncomfortable, and thinking that everything that happens to us is due to random chance feels cold and impersonal. The brain seeks out patterns and order when they are not necessarily present.” Sarah Henn Hayward Our guest this week is Sarah Henn Hayward. Sarah is a mom of two, an author and our first self-p…

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It's Not Complicated - Malynda Hale 56:22

3M ago56:22

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Promote what you love instead of bashing what you hate. - Malynda Hale Malynda Hale, mom, activist, singer, author and actress, is our guest this week. Malynda uses her voice through her music and social media presence as an educating activist to effect change within social justice, female empowerment, LGBTQ+ rights, the Black Lives Matter movement…

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Love Yourself - Amber Schultz 51:06

3M ago51:06

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The Church needs to be called out and take responsibility for the damage it has done to people. The survivors should be heard. So no, I don't always talk about the good. Because until the darkness is exposed, and more people are removed from power that absolutely should not be in it, I will not be quiet. - Amber Schultz Amber Schultz, founder of Fu…

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Deconstructing Your Faith Without Losing Yourself - Angela J. Herrington 55:42

3M ago55:42

55:42

Deconstruction invites us to become really honest about what we believe, why we hold those beliefs sacred, how they influence the way we relate to our creator, and who is actually served by our beliefs. If we trust the process enough to lower our walls and honestly engage with our questions, deconstruction promises to reveal undiscovered bias, limi…

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Walking Out of & Into Spiritual Rooms - Emily P. Freeman 1:00:52

3M ago1:00:52

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The question we need to ask is this one: Am I being pushed by fear or led by love? (Emily P. Freeman) We are absolutely thrilled to have Emily P. Freeman join us on the podcast this week. Emily is a New York Times best-selling author, a mom to three, a spiritual director and podcast hostess. Her most important work is to help create soul space and …

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Finding My Voice Again - Leslie Nease 59:01

3M ago59:01

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I want to be a voice for the invisibles. (Leslie Nease) What do a Survivor contestant, deconstructing mama of four bigs, former Christian radio broadcaster, life and faith transitions coach, author and newly-minted podcast hostess have in common? They are all named Leslie Nease, our podcast guest this week. Leslie is quick-witted, well-spoken and p…

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Deconstructing Spanking - Matt Shantz 1:00:02

4M ago1:00:02

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*trigger warning* “My passion is to have a kinder and gentler world for our little people in faith spaces.” (Matt Shantz) Meet Matt Shantz, husband, dad, social worker in child and adolescent mental health, and spiritual mentor. Matt is our podcast guest this week and we are so grateful to have had one of the most complicated, difficult and needed …

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Essentially Good & Worthy of Love - Stephanie Stalvey 53:56

4M ago53:56

53:56

I’m trying to be in alignment with what I understand what the true principles of love to actually be. (Stephanie Stalvey) The passionate and kind Stephanie Stalvey is our guest this week on the podcast. Stephanie is a deconstructing mama of one, high school art teacher, and painter writer and comic book artist extraordinaire. She loves music and an…

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You Will Always Belong - Matthew Paul Turner 51:03

4M ago51:03

51:03

“God is like a fort, strong and secure with walls that are mighty and safe. Inside, there are hidden places to hold you when you’re scared or need a quiet place to rest.” What is God Like (Matthew Paul Turner & Rachel Held Evans) The spunky and amazing Matthew Paul Turner is our guest this week on the podcast. Matthew is a dad of three, New York Ti…

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Parenting After Deconstruction - Sarah Schwartzendruber 53:31

4M ago53:31

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“You aren't going to mess up your kids' theology." (Sarah Swartzendruber) The brilliant Sarah Swartzendruber is our guest this week on the podcast. Sarah is a mama, pastor, kid's faith curriculum creator (Zippee) and cohort leader for Parenting After Deconstruction. Most of the parents who reach out to her know what they don't want to teach their k…

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Diet Culture & Extreme Religion - Trisha Wilkerson 1:06:19

5M ago1:06:19

1:06:19

“Self-discovery is the goal. Self-compassion is the vibe." (Trisha Wilkerson) We start off Season Five with Trisha Wilkerson as our guest this week on the podcast. And it's really good! Trisha is a deconstructing mama, author, former pastor's wife turned certified Nutrition Coach. She works with individuals and groups, guiding a behavioral change p…

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The Struggle - Lizz Enns Petters and Esther Joy Goetz 58:16

8M ago58:16

58:16

“Chronic trauma can overwhelm our internal coping resources. Trauma disrupts the same system that regulates our body’s stress response causing a hyperactive fight-or-flight reaction. It’s not just all in our head. It’s in our bodies too. (Brittany Moses) Guess what??? The guests on our podcasts this week are...drum roll please... us. We are closing…

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I Might Be Wrong - Zack Hunt 53:04

8M ago53:04

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“Admitting we could be wrong about the things we are most convinced of, that are so fundamental to who we are, is painful and becoming someone new is scary.” (an excerpt from Godbreathed, Zack Hunt) Zack Hunt (sometimes known as Zaack Hunt around the internet, a deconstructing dad, former pastor, prolific author and BBQ magician extraordinaire, is …

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My Love, God is Everywhere - The Reverend Mamas 46:08

8M ago46:08

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“My love, God is here when you choose goodness and are living from your heart. When you follow the path of love, God is with you from the start. And God is there when you mess up, if you make a choice that isn’t best. It doesn’t mean you’re bad; it just means you’re human-like all the rest.” (an excerpt from My Love, God is Everywhere) Victoria Rob…

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Deconstructing Hell - Chad Bahl 49:38

9M ago49:38

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"I would hope never to feel so confident in my theology as not to be willing to correct a wrong view once presented with compelling evidence." Chad Bahl (Deconstructing Hell) Chad Bahl is our podcast guest this week. Chad is a theologian, step-dad and author. Chad is also a kind, humble, deep, brilliant soul who is on a personal mission to seek the…

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Liminal Space & Winter's Gifts - Kaitlin Curtice 49:57

9M ago49:57

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“In a time when we love to keep ourselves separated from one another with our ideologies and beliefs, liminality asks how we exist in those in between spaces.” - Kaitlin Curtis (Living Resistance) Kaitlin Curtice is our podcast guest this week. Kaitlin is an award-winning author, poet-storyteller, and public speaker. As an enrolled citizen of the P…

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Stories and Solidarity - Dr. Drew Hart 54:30

9M ago54:30

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“Following Jesus out of the entanglements of Christian supremacy and white supremacy are deep convictions. We believe God desires so much more from the Church than the frequently empty religiosity and hypocrisy we have become adjusted to.” --Dr. Drew Hart Dr. Drew Hart, black activist, racial reconciliation expert, biblical studies professor and fa…

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From Constrictive to Expansive - Kyndall Rae Rothaus 52:47

10M ago52:47

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Kyndall Rae Rothaus, a preacher, poet, feminist theologian, spiritual director, and preaching coach, is our guest this week. She is the author of Thy Queendom Come: Breaking Free from Patriarchy to Save Your Soul (2021) and Preacher Breath (2015). She is the co-founder and Executive Director of Nevertheless She Preached, a national, ecumenical prea…

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Deconstructing Grief - Dr. Glenn Siepert 1:04:08

10M ago1:04:08

1:04:08

This Week on the Podcast: Dr. Glenn Siepert, a deconstructing dad, former pastor, author and podcast host of the What If Project, is our guest this week.Glenn creates a safe space for people to explore this idea: What if there are ways of thinking about God and faith that are different than what our traditions have handed us? . On this episode, we …

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Your Body is a Revolution - Tara Teng 54:36

10M ago54:36

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Tara Teng, an Embodiment Coach who works in the intersections of spirituality and sexuality, is our guest this week. Tara helps people find their way back to their bodies, overcome shame, heal trauma and dismantle purity culture in a way that is in alignment with their values and beliefs so that they can build a healthy, sexual ethic and thrive in …

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Evolve to Survive - Ericka Graham 51:35

10M ago51:35

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Ericka Graham, freelance pastor and Bible-nerd extraordinaire, mama to two littles, recovering 12-stepper, and podcast hostess, is our guest this week. Ericka has a passion for reframing the Bible to be a source of life and healing and spreading that word far and wide. On this episode, we dive deep into the hard spaces of OCD manifested in scrupulo…

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Is God Violent? - Dr. Eric Seibert 49:26

10M ago49:26

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Dr. Eric Seibert, Old Testament scholar and professor, dad of tweens and teens, prolific author and Minecraft guru, (yes, you read that right) is our guest this week. Eric is passionate against churchce sanctioned violenebecause he is troubled by how much violence Christians condone and sometimes participate in. I do NOT believe this is what God in…

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Rewilding Our Soul - Mary DeJong 1:02:29

11M ago1:02:29

1:02:29

We continue Season Four with Mary DeJong. Mary lives in Seattle, Washington's Rainier Valley in Columbia City, at Hedgewood, a home that for over a decade has hosted community connection through the reclamation and restoration of a neighborhood forest. Mary finds herself an eco-theologian and urban naturalist who delves into why place matters, the …

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Safe Sex - Dr. Laura E. Anderson 1:01:08

11M ago1:01:08

1:01:08

We are so excited to launch Season Four with Dr. Laura E. Anderson, the author of that wisdom. Dr. Laura is a psychotherapist, trauma resolution coach and consultant, writer and educator specializing in complex and developmental trauma, dynamics of power and control and religious trauma. She views herself as still a work in progress. She believes h…

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Embodied Faith - Annalise Hume 50:07

1y ago50:07

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Annalise Hume, is our guest on our perfectly-timed summer bonus episode. Annalise is a passionate, creative, down-to-earth mover who loves listening and asking questions to help others recognize the movement of God in their life. After growing up in Boise, Idaho, she earned a BFA in Dance, spending a year touring with a performing-arts organization…

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Reparenting Ourselves - Bekah McNeel 47:47

1y ago47:47

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Bekah McNeel is our final guest of Season Three. Bekah is a native of San Antonio, Texas, where she has been a reporter for nine years. Her work has appeared in print with Christianity Today, The San Antonio Current, and the Public Justice Review, as well as online with the Christian Science Monitor, Sojourners, the Texas Tribune, the Hechinger Rep…

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The Space Between - Matt Mattson 47:16

1y ago47:16

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Matt Mattson, the "starter" of both the BETWEEN community and Today I Pray For You project on Instagram and Facebook, is our guest this week. Matt dreams of creating a global relational religious movement. Matt believes “church” (and faith exploration) can and should happen in our conversations with others. He's passionate that the space between us…

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What About the Why? - Liz Mall 47:29

1y ago47:29

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Liz Mall, apologist (fancy word for someone who uses "argument" and "reason" to make a point that something is or isn't true and she has her masters in this area of expertise), deconstructing mama of three littles and podcast hostess, is our guest this week. She and her cohost provide incredible resources for both faith deconstruction and reconstru…

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Tear Everything Down - Melissa Neeb 48:34

1y ago48:34

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Melissa Neeb, author, deconstructing mama of two teens, avid photographer, and podcast hostess is our guest this week. Her mantra is "love big, live kind" and there could be nothing truer about Melissa. She's highly committed to loving without strings, inclusive of everyone who walks into her home or her life and kindness is her main squeeze. When …

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Two Trees - Mike Morrell 49:55

1+ y ago49:55

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Mike Morrell, coauthor of the Divine Dance with Richard Rohr (a pretty big deal), dad of two, an opti-mystic (which he likes to call himself), and Dudeist Priest (look it up here), is our guest this week. He's a contemplative-in-process, seeking a more grounded experience of God, life, himself and the world, not because of grand mystical aspiration…

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Purity Culture Recovery - Dr. Camden Morgante 41:55

1+ y ago41:55

41:55

Dr. Camden Morgante, psychologist, coach, writer, and fellow mama is passionate about purity culture recovery, egalitarianism and reconstruction. She currently lives in Knoxville, TN with her husband and her two beautiful children. We know what is wrong with purity culture—now we need to know how to heal. As a licensed psychologist specializing in …

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The Gift of the Unexpected - Jillian Benfield 50:53

1+ y ago50:53

50:53

Jillian Benfield, author, mom of three, former TV news anchor, and fierce advocate for access and inclusion of all types, is our guest this week. When she and her husband Andy were just 27 years old, they unexpectedly found out their son would be born with Down syndrome. Originally, devastated, they later, through months and years of learning and u…

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What About Doubt? - Kat Wordsworth 43:16

1+ y ago43:16

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Kat Wordsworth, author, mom of two, avid swimmer, and experienced doubter, is our guest this week. Although she is constantly living with doubt and unpacking both the harm and the healing it has brought to her life, she is taking slow steps on her own path of faith. Our conversation with Kat, one of most gentle souls we've had the privilege of inte…

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Parenting Deconstructed - Jason Elam 44:29

1+ y ago44:29

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Jason Elam, grateful husband, author, proud dad of four amazing kids, host of the Messy Spirituality Podcast, and former church pastor, is our guest this week. Although he is deconstructing from toxic religion, he is still enamored by Jesus. Our time with Jason was refreshing and empowering, especially in the area of deconstructing and parenting. S…

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Is God a Safe Grown-Up? - Meredith Miller 48:07

1+ y ago48:07

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Meredith Miller, mom, children's pastor and soon-to-be author of a legit book coming out in August titled Woven: Nurturing a Faith Your Kid Doesn't Have to Heal From, is with us this week. Meredith has over 20 years experience in children’s ministry and curriculum. In 2019 she and her husband Curtis started a small church on Zoom that wants to live…

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Stay Out of the Way - Sarah Bessey 46:53

1+ y ago46:53

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Sarah Bessey, mom, best-selling author of dozens of words and books, podcast host herself and co-creator of the Evolving Summit is with us this week. Sarah was born and raised in the prairies and foothills of western Canada. Now living in Calgary, Alberta, Canada (on the traditional territories of the people of the Treaty 7 region in southern Alber…

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I am Enough - Jonathan Puddle 45:13

1+ y ago45:13

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Jonathan Puddle, dad of four, children's pastor and author, is with us this week. Jonathan was born in New Zealand and now resides in Guelph, Ontario with his wife Maija and their three kids. He love books, music, movies, dark beer, good food, and long walks on the beach. Jonathan feels passionately about living freely and loving powerfully. He bel…

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Love is Not - Jamie Edelbrock 41:03

1+ y ago41:03

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Jamie Edelbrock, mom of three tween and teenage daughters, children's author, mental health advocate and fellow deconstructing mama kicks off Season Three with us. Jamie was born and raised in Salem, Oregon. She's married to her high school sweetheart and has been all of the following at some point: homeschool mom, preschool director, family minist…

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Compassionate Curiosity - Shelly Robinson 41:03

1+ y ago41:03

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"Motherhood is the hardest and holiest work because my kids reflect back to me what I haven't yet resolved within myself." (Shelly Robinson) Shelly Robinson, mom of two, founder of Raising Yourself, certified family wellness coach, author of the Rebirth Journal, and creator behind the Connected Collection, a powerful bundle of transformational pare…

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Original Blessing - Danielle Shroyer 47:19

1+ y ago47:19

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The funny, yet very insightful Danielle Shroyer, is our guest this week. Danielle Shroyer is an author, speaker, spiritual director, and former pastor. A founding member in the emerging church movement, Danielle served as the pastor of one of the nation’s first independent emerging communities of faith for nearly a decade. Her primary goal as a pas…

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Pastoring, Potatoes and Parenthood- Ben Cremer 59:52

1+ y ago59:52

59:52

The fabulous Ben Cremer is our guest this week. Ben is all these things: Wesleyan. Writer. Chronic student. Constant investigator. Idahoan (Lizz and Esther had never met anyone before from Idaho). He is very well-known for the black boxes on social media filled with mic drop after mic drop of wisdom and cut-to-the-chase snippets that speak to where…

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Spiritual Misfits - Joy Vetterlein 53:45

1+ y ago53:45

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The very wonderful Joy Vetterlein is our guest this week. Joy is a lifelong church girl and former-pastor-turned-misfit-rebel who got tired of being hurt and seeing other people get hurt by evangelical Christianity. She's here to help you find your own path to spirituality, especially if you feel like a "spiritual misfit" just like her. Joy is a fe…

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This Little Light of Mine - Torri Williams 43:32

1+ y ago43:32

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“To be human in an aching world is to know our dignity and become people who safeguard the dignity of everything around us.” -Cole Arthur Riley- This Week on the Podcast: Torri Williams, our guest this week, is an activist and brilliant soul. Growing up in a small town which was prominently white and highly evangelical as a a black charismatic fund…

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Mama God - Daneen Akers 41:02

1+ y ago41:02

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"As long as a masculine god remains at the top of the pyramid, nothing else we do matters." Dr. Rev. Will Gaffney Daneen Akers is the author of Holy Troublemakers and Unconventional Saints, an illustrated children's book about people of diverse faiths working for more love and justice in their corners of the world, even when that means rocking the …

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Internal Family Systems - Molly LaCroix 52:48

2y ago52:48

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"Why do Christians talk so much about love but often, fail to be loving?" Molly LaCroix is the author of that quote, a speaker and licensed marriage and family therapist (LMFT). She specializes in treating the impact of early adverse experiences and trauma, using the Internal Family Systems (IFS) Model she finds as a comprehensive, evidence-based a…

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Who Do I Trust? - Angela J. Herrington 49:38

2y ago49:38

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"Deconstruction is an opportunity to deepen your faith, not just a rejection of what you believed in the past." The author of those beautiful words, Angela J. Herrington, a fellow deconstructing mama of FIVE and a faith deconstruction coach, walks us through how unhealed trauma informs our ability to trust ourselves. We walk through how difficult a…

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Faith Jenga - Cassie Gottula Shaw 36:44

2y ago36:44

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In this episode, Cassie Gottula Shaw, a fellow deconstructing mama and brilliant faith researcher, walks us through something she's deemed "faith Jenga." Listen in as we chat through the blocks of our faith, the carefully constructed faith towers we build, what we do with the blocks we want to pull out and throw away, and what we can work with the …

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What is Seeping In? - Pete Enns 50:30

2y ago50:30

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This week on the podcast, we dive deeper with Pete Enns as we continue to navigate the tricky tightrope of parenting while deconstructing toxic religious systems and reconstructing our faith with love and freedom. One of the big questions we ask each other is this: WHAT IS SEEPING IN? You definitely don't want to miss out on the sarcastic and very …

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Better Than Purity - Brittany Meng 52:19

2y ago52:19

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"We need to embrace better questions when we try to help relationships thrive, rejecting shame and judgment, and instead focusing on love, respect, and boundaries that encompass the entire expression of what it means to be human and healthy. " In this episode on the Deconstructing Mamas podcast, Brittany Meng of the Bam Blog, dives deep with us int…

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