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Leadership Decanted

Paul Garcia & KG Butler

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Curious about leaders, leading teams, or leadership? So are Paul Garcia and Kerry "KG" Butler. In fact, they turned their periodic happy hour chats about life and leadership into the Leadership Decanted Podcast. Join Paul and KG as they discuss all things leadership. Each episode of Leadership Decanted asks fascinating questions about leadership and keeps the conversation flowing over a nice bottle of wine.
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For this Cheeky Half Paul & KG riff on the latest report by the Workplace Gender Equality Agency, the "Employer Gender Pay Gaps Snapshot." It is both, a compelling and somewhat unsettling look at Australia's progress in reaching gender pay equity. The many interesting pieces of data lead them to ask a couple of simple questions: "What conversations…
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KG & Paul have always held the position that healthy, productive, and even impactful, leadership practice is one that stays with the difficult conversations - even when these conversations are likely to reveal the most inscrutable, even darker, sides of our own natures. These aren't always comfortable conversations, but they can nevertheless carry …
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In this Special Bonus episode (think of it as a Cheeky three-quarters!), Paul & KG start Season 4 by visiting our sponsor's 'wine cave'. Sitting down with Chris Loth, the owner of Annadale Cellars, and a generous friend of the show, they spend a brief time hearing about Chris' passion for wine, his inspiration and his approach to how he makes his w…
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Paul & KG reflect on the year that was - 2023. We love talking about leadership over some lovely wine. It's how it all started in 2021, and how it continues. It's even more exciting to us when we get to share that wine with some very special people as we broaden our discussions and listen to their stories, their experiences and their wisdom. We rea…
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In this Cheeky Half episode, Paul & KG discuss a very recent report published by the Scanlon institute in Australia, the Mapping Social Cohesion report. It's a fascinating social research project that seeks to assess the state of our 'social cohesion' at a given point (the report is published annually). It looks at categories such as our sense of b…
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What does a hot cup of tea have to do with our understanding of culture in the organisations where we work? Join Paul & KG as they touch on this surprising 'phenomenon' with their special guest, Michael Henderson. Michael is a Corporate Anthropologist (yep, it's a real thing!) with a clear and sharp take on what makes culture in our organisations, …
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In this Cheeky Half episode, Paul & KG talk about the idea of 'Courageous Conversations'. Why is 'courage' needed in these scenarios? Aren't they simply just conversations that happen to touch on difficult topics? Why then the need for 'courage'? Is there real danger where some form of bravery is required? Or does this term say more about our fears…
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KG & Paul often refer to leadership practice as being contextual. No one size, style or framework fits all. And despite their many years of combined leadership practice, they have barely experienced the sheer diversity of contexts where leaders 'play'. And so they invited Nicole Schleicher, General Manager of Services and Impact at redkite, for a l…
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Have you ever found yourself in a position where a confidential or sensitive message you need to convey somehow morphs into a set of well-meaning lies? We confess, we have. And sometimes, despite our best intentions, we just haven't worked out how to navigate that slippery slope. Paul & KG talk about some of these moments, not always something to b…
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KG & Paul love their regular conversations on leadership over a glass of wine. That's no secret. But it's easy to forget that these conversations provide only a small, even infinitesimal, slice of what leadership is and could be. They'd be the first to admit they don't have a monopoly on leadership practice, nor its definition. It is for this reaso…
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Life can sometimes beat us around, and it doesn't care who you are or what responsibilities you hold in an organisation. And yet, if you do hold a position where you have responsibility over others, and a deeply emotional crisis hits you and the team, then you may be at risk of neglecting your own feelings of emotional and psychological exhaustion,…
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"Two sporting teams, both alike in dignity, In fair London, where we lay our scene, From ancient grudge break to new mutiny, Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean." (with sincere apologies to Mr Shakespeare...) What leadership object lessons can we take from a recent sporting controversy. Where two teams, two captains, face what seems to be t…
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Is influence an essential trait for effective leadership? Join Paul & KG as they explore different notions of influence. Is it persuasion? Is it manipulation? How about the art of telling compelling stories, advocating for others, and leading by example? Join the conversation and tell us what you think influence to be, and how it might work in prac…
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In leadership roles, we often face uncomfortable conversations and encounters. When experiencing these unsettling situations, we have a few options. These include enduring the discomfort and navigating through the storm until we find stability, or prematurely ending the conversation, ignoring the tension. One approach fosters growth and connection,…
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The term 'Self Care' has become a common one. However, the practice itself, as it pertains to those in leadership positions, seems to be as scarce or as ad hoc as ever. Why should we care about 'Self Care', and what difference would it even make to how we lead? Join Paul & KG as they discuss their own challenges around 'Self Care', and how they try…
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Celebrating our leadership successes should be a joyful and necessary practice. However, if we are not attentive to our leadership shortcomings, especially our failures, then we are condemned to repeat the same mistakes. Join KG & Paul as they chat with Ed Vaughn, from Generation Leadership, about his fascination with leadership failure and, amongs…
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It's not unusual for any of us to feel under the pump, where there just aren't enough hours in the day to get done what needs to get done. It is a perennial challenge that often ends with us spinning our wheels, emotionally throwing our hands in the air and giving in to the situation, as if there were no other option. If you identify with this resp…
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On this episode, KG sneakily turned the spotlight on Paul. What exactly does Paul do? All this talk of leadership and team development, surely we shouldn't just assume he knows what he's talking about, right? Check out this conversation if you are at all interested in his take on working with leaders and their teams. And, as usual, the conversation…
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Leadership can sometimes feel like a cross between a talent show, where your leadership capabilities are always being judged, and a high-stakes survival show, where you constantly have to choose between the preservation of your own career and the development of the careers of others. How to choose!!?? Join Paul & KG as they think out loud about how…
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Apparently, there are some things about leadership that make Paul want to squirm and run into the woods, shrieking like a Banshee. On this occasion he was disturbed and triggered by our special guest, Marcus Crow, co-founder of 10,000 Hours and a deeply experienced facilitator who works with leaders across many industries and sectors. Join us for a…
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Anyone with any interest in the Australian context will know 2023 is going to be a significant year for many of our leaders holding public office. This is the year a national referendum is put to the population about enshrining a voice of our Indigenous People into the constitution. But not just those in the public domain who have a role to play. A…
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As a new season of Leadership Decanted kicks off, Paul & KG discuss what it might take to refresh and reframe their leadership practices, as they are very mindful that all of those qualities, practices, behaviours and energy that got you here, may not necessarily get you to where you want to go next! There's also a tortured metaphor about sailing s…
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Our 2023 Leadership Decanted teaser! KG & Paul are looking forward to sharing ideas, thoughts, conversation - and some very good wine - as we continue to explore the vast leadership landscape. We'd love to share all this with you too!! Do you have a question? Would you like to suggest a topic of conversation? Please reach out on askus@leadershipdec…
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It's that time in our lives when we look back, doe-eyed and in soft focus, to a magical year... Hmm, maybe not. Despite our penchant for a nice glass (or two) of wine during our Leadership Decanted conversations, we manage to take a sober look at how we think leadership may have played out over the past year. Join Paul and KG as they reflect on 202…
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Thanks to a listener question, KG & Paul are reminded of their leadership 'scars' as they contemplate the question of why anyone would want to lead at all! Is it purpose, is it force of personality or is it sheer bloody-mindedness, amongst the many options? Maybe a little from each column. Shout out to Damien for your reflection that lead to this l…
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Vanilla has had a bad rap over the years. Often associated with blandness and things vaguely unremarkable, to be called 'Vanilla' can be experienced as a back-handed compliment at best, and a dismissal at worst. However, KG & Paul beg to differ. Over an impeccable bottle of 2004 Buller & Sons [now Buller Wines] Calliope Shiraz, they discuss the oft…
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As it turns out, not a huge amount. Paul & KG visit the website of the Australian Leadership Index. Driven by Swinburne University of Technology, the index "provides a way to measure how people view the performance of leaders and their institutions, when it comes to their overall leadership, and its drivers." This Cheeky Half conversation merely sc…
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The death of Queen Elizabeth II has generated more commentary, analysis and nostalgic introspection in the last few weeks than we can ever remember. Despite the overwhelming avalanche of words, Paul & KG still felt they could add their small drop in this vast ocean by turning their attention to the idea of 'legacy'. What is it and, more importantly…
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Questions of gender identity are becoming more commonplace in public discourse, but not everyone in leadership has necessarily grappled with all the complexities wrapped around those conversations. Paul and KG are no exception. Nevertheless, in this Cheeky Half episode they talk about how leaders might broach discussions and interactions with those…
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Leadership development takes time. Sometimes it's a painstaking process where the results couldn't come fast enough, teasing us with the smallest of incremental results. But what if you could find a way to short-circuit that protracted process and see results sooner? And what if it wasn't just about improved speed? What if you could also unlock a n…
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We want to stop talking about Covid. We really do. But it seems this pesky virus isn't done with us just yet. In this instalment of our Cheeky Half episodes, KG and Paul talk about how the persistence of Covid has shaped leadership responses, especially as many organisations are now negotiating with their people to return to their respective office…
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Leadership is a tough gig at the best of times. And sometimes it's even harder than that! This is especially true when, having delivered a message to our teams or colleagues, we find ourselves having to rescind, and maybe even replacing it with a contradictory message. What's it like when you have to 'recant' a previous message? How can leaders mai…
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When it comes to understanding the impact and effectiveness of our leadership style, there's a fine line between confidence and delusion. In this instalment of our Cheeky Half episodes, KG and Paul discuss ways of getting a better handle on both, your leadership style and its effectiveness in your context, whatever that might be. To that end, we ta…
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What does it take to write a book about one's Leadership journey and some of the tools that helped you along the way? Furthermore, how can you make those experiences and expertise resonate for a broader audience? We're glad you asked! Whilst in the grip of a delectable Tyrrell's 2006, Vat 1 Semillon, Paul unpacks KG's own literary journey in writin…
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As practicing leaders, sometimes it's a struggle to simply get out of bed, let alone contemplate the day ahead, with all the pressures leadership might bear down on us. In this 'Cheeky Half' conversation Paul & KG explore some possible reasons why we might feel this way every now and again (or sometimes on quite a regular basis). How might we appro…
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*(Formerly titled, "Leadership has no gender...") In this episode Paul & KG are excited to have Reyna Matthes as our conversational guest. Reyna is a Founding Director of Executive Central. But above all else, she is deeply passionate about building leadership capability for women. During the discussion, however, it becomes very clear that Reyna's …
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We've all heard it before: the 'great' managers versus leaders debate. In this 'Cheeky Half' conversation Paul & KG try to dismantle the stubbornly persistent myths around what they consider to be a highly unproductive approach to thinking about management and leadership practices. And Paul gets rather worked up! We'd love to hear what you thought …
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Two middle aged guys harping on about leadership may be interesting to some, but clearly that is never going to be enough. If Leadership Practice is in any way forward looking, surely we need to look to those who are nipping at our heels. What do today's youth think of Leadership? What do they expect of those who claim to lead? And how do they aspi…
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Do you prefer to lead with your 'Head' or with your 'Heart'? That's the conversation in the first instalment of our 'Cheeky Half' edition of Leadership Decanted! We'd love to hear what you thought of this conversation. Is this a topic worth pursuing in one of our longer monthly episodes? Please let us know through either of the options below. Pleas…
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Sometimes a month between Leadership Decanted episodes feels like a long time between drinks, doesn't it?! To ease the anxiety KG & Paul will regularly be sharing some of their unfinished thoughts and ideas. Think of them as incomplete thought bubbles. By doing so we want to give our listeners a sense of how we process our ideas and how we come to …
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In this episode Paul and KG are taken even deeper into the realms of Deep Listening. This is the final leg of a two leg journey, where we discover the Five Levels of Listening, and why they matter. They continue to be guided [virtually] on this journey by Oscar Trimboli - author, speaker, creator and presenter of the Apple award winning podcast, "D…
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This month's episode is a little different. Join Paul and KG as they are taken on a quest to the realms of Deep Listening. In this first leg of a two leg journey we set the scene by understanding a few broad principles and getting to the bottom of why deep listening is not just a courtesy, but a critical component of meaningful leadership practice.…
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Professor Michael Anderson joins us over a few glasses of wine to talk about his research and work in the areas of education and how some of the ideas, concepts and frameworks might be relevant to leadership practice. As usual, our conversation is helped along by a delicious bottle of wine. This time it's a 2004 Giaconda, Pinot Noir. We'd love to h…
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Paul & KG thought it might be an interesting exercise to synthesise their experience of Leadership in 2021 by choosing one word that, at least for them, best represents how they believe Leadership practice showed up throughout the year. As usual, our conversation is helped along by a delicious bottle of wine. This time it's a 2017 Running Horse, Hu…
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When you hear or read the word "POT", what pops into your head?!? Yeah, figured as much. In this episode KG and Paul pull apart this little word to reveal a powerful acronym, and one worth remembering for anyone striving to stay focused in their Leadership practice. As usual, our conversation is helped along by a delicious bottle of wine. This time…
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KG and Paul return after an unplanned hiatus to gently shine a spotlight on themselves. What does it take to persevere in the midst of adversity, serious or otherwise, to keep a passion project like this podcast going? How might looking through a slightly different lens help us understand leadership, and how we might lead ourselves, a little more? …
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Yes, after a Covid induced absence we are back with a vengeance. Well, that's what we're promising, anyway. Thank you for your patience as you waited, device in hand, refreshing your podcast feed every few minutes. As of next week, we hope it will have been worth the wait! Are there any leadership topics you'd like us to discuss (or perhaps other b…
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Naomi Nash, from New River Leadership, joins us as our very first guest on Leadership Decanted. Over a bottle of wine we discuss the idea that leadership is, first and foremost, an action, and how that concept may inform our understanding of how we might exercise a more effective and transformative leadership practice. Today we really enjoyed a bot…
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Over the allure of a good bottle of red Paul & KG discuss some of the ideas in Brene Brown's 2018 book, "Dare to Lead: Brave work. Tough conversations. Whole hearts." Grab yourself a glass of your favourite beverage and dare to join us in the conversation. Today our wine of choice was a 2003 Setanta Black Sanglain Adelaide Hills Cabernet Sauvignon.…
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The old nature vs nurture question raises its controversial head as Paul & KG tackle the thorny question of whether leadership is something we're born with, or a skill we can learn. Over a bottle of wine, of course. Today's tipple of choice was a 2002 Castagna 'Genesis' Syrah. Sláinte! Disagree or agree with anything we've said? How wrong are we?!?…
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