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5-4 is a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks. It's a progressive and occasionally profane take on the ideological battles at the heart of the Court's most important landmark cases; an irreverent tour of all the ways in which the law is shaped by politics. Subscribe to our access our premium episodes & much more at fivefourpod.com/support Listen each week as hosts Peter, Michael, and Rhiannon dismantle the Justices’ legal reasoning on hot-button issues like affirmative action, gun ...
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Your Trump 2.0 Questions, Answered [UNLOCKED]
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1:08:44This episode was available early to Premium members. If you'd like that kind of perk, consider joining at fivefourpod.com/support. What do you do if ICE comes to your door? How will Trump enforce his anti-trans orders? Are there risks to podcasting in the age of Trump? You asked some really dark questions, and we have answers. To hear this and othe…
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Trump’s blitzkrieg of executive orders has left many of us scrambling. The policies are cruel and reactionary, but do they amount to a constitutional crisis? If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-…
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What do you do if ICE comes to your door? How will Trump enforce his anti-trans orders? Are there risks to podcasting in the age of Trump? You asked some really dark questions, and we have answers. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode, including this one with helpful tips on how to survive Trump 2.0! To hear this and…
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The Supreme Court says that you don’t have a constitutional right to post short form videos of cute cats. Is it time for a revolution? You can subscribe to 5-4 Premium on Patreon, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Dustin DeSoto. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. …
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Peter and Michael dissect Jen Sincero's "You are a Badass," a book that answers the question: What if "The Secret" was written in the painful, try-hard style of "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck"? Featuring a surprise digression about Sincero's other, even worse books. Where to find us: Peter's other podcast, 5-4 Mike's other podcast, Maintenanc…
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You may have noticed that sports betting apps have taken over the world in just a few short years. Blame the Supreme Court. You can subscribe to 5-4 Premium on Patreon, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Dustin DeSoto. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researc…
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5-4 x Know Your Enemy: Trump 2.0 and the Courts
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1:08:59Peter and Michael join the hosts of the podcast "Know Your Enemy" to discuss how Trump is likely to reshape the federal judiciary during his second term. They talk about some of Trump's judicial appointees as well as outgoing President Biden's successes and failures in the courts. You can subscribe to 5-4 Premium on Patreon, Apple Podcasts, or Spot…
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Every year we like to share some organizations that have a special meaning to us. Given the year ahead, please consider donating or, at the very least, keep listening to 5-4. https://vocal-tx.org shutitdown4palestine.org/fundraiser https://www.detentionwatchnetwork.org https://www.hechoonline.org https://runforsomething.net https://www.marinemammal…
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Holiday Extravaganza: Drake, TikTok, and the Clean Girls [TEASER]
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5:45Only subscribers can hear the rest of our conversation about some of pop culture's entertaining legal battles. You could impress your friends at the holiday party by having a fresh take on the Drake and Kendrick beef or knowing the latest regarding the potential TikTok ban. Be smart and sound cool -- become a subscriber! Here is a link to The Verge…
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Imagine losing some of your civil rights based on where you happen to be hanging out. Crazy, we know. You should walk, not run (unless you want to be detained and searched by police), to fivefourpod.com/support to become a premium member, where you can hear every episode. You can also subscribe to 5-4 Premium on Patreon, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify.…
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In 2004, historian Thomas Frank proposed a theory about the rightward drift of the white working class. Was he a prescient king whose work presaged the rise of Trump — or a bumbling fool with a broken thesis? Unfortunately it turns out he is a secret third thing that takes one hour and six minutes to explain. Special thanks to Julia Valdés for her …
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We should all want accurate food labels and strong regulations. We don't want to consume raw milk or mix dolphin in our canned tuna... well, maybe some do. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get first dibs on live show tickets, dig into our Premium episode catalog, join our Slack community, and more. Join us at…
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Only subscribers get to hear the rest of our conversation about how the Democratic party fell short of making judicial appointments and failed to hold Republicans - and specific Supreme Court Justices accountable. A lot of these mistakes stem from one man, Senator Dick Durbin. To hear the whole episode, subscribe to 5-4 Premium on Patreon, Apple Po…
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Damn you, Merrick Garland. This all could have been avoided... With the election now over, we digest what happened with our friends Jay Willis from Balls & Strikes and journalist Josie Duffy Rice. You can subscribe to 5-4 Premium on Patreon, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Dustin DeSot…
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The Year Ahead for Trans Rights [UNLOCKED]
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49:00With a second Trump presidency on the horizon, we look ahead to how trans rights will be under attack. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Dustin DeSoto. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy…
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Only subscribers get to hear the rest of our delightful review of My Cousin Vinny, which we consider one of the best courtroom movies ever. It's Joe Pesci and Marisa Tomei. What's not to love? To hear the whole episode, subscribe to 5-4 Premium on Patreon, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. Bonus content, access to a vibrant 5-4 Slack community, and occas…
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Peter and Michael discuss the book that launched the phenomenon of New Atheism and asked the question: What if we hated Muslims, but in a secular way? Where to find us: Peter's other podcast, 5-4 Mike's other podcast, Maintenance Phase Sources: Views of Violence Carnival Booth: An Algorithm for Defeating the Computer-Assisted Passenger Screening Sy…
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How America’s morally and physically ugliest billionaires are plotting to destroy labor rights. You can subscribe to 5-4 Premium on Patreon, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode. To get first dibs on live show tickets, dig into our Premium episode catalog, join our Slack community, and mor…
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The Coming Battle Over Reproductive Rights
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51:15Could a national abortion ban already be in the works? A majority of Americans say no thank you, but as we know, that doesn't matter... *cough* Roe V Wade *cough* If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get first dibs on live show tickets, dig into our Premium episode catalog, membership in our Slack community, and …
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What should workers do when they get laid off? In 1998 a bleak, asinine bestseller told them to find another whey. Where to find us: Peter's other podcast, 5-4 Mike's other podcast, Maintenance Phase Sources: Bright-Sided: How Positive Thinking Is Undermining America Downsizing in America Temp: How American Work, American Business, and the American…
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Think you're an American citizen just because you're born here? Think again. You can subscribe to 5-4 Premium on Patreon, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Dustin DeSoto. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was de…
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Do you love culture war? Then the upcoming Supreme Court term is for you... You can subscribe to 5-4 Premium on Patreon, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Dustin DeSoto. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was des…
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New York’s favorite criminal is in the news, so here is our episode about his ridiculous life. To hear all of our bonus episodes, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/IfBooksPodBy Michael Hobbes & Peter Shamshiri
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Is fact-checking a legitimate enterprise? Is America's most famous fact-checker nothing more than a dweeb? Michael and Peter discuss. To hear the rest of the episode, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/IfBooksPodBy Michael Hobbes & Peter Shamshiri
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A memoir about parenting very badly and then getting weirdly defensive when anyone asks you about it. Where to find us: Peter's other podcast, 5-4 Mike's other podcast, Maintenance Phase Sources: Effects of Authoritative Parental Control on Child Behavior, Child Development Types of Parenting Styles and Effects On Children Does “Tiger Parenting” Ex…
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This is a subscriber-only episode about the Real John Roberts, as rendered in a New York Times exposé about the Chief Justice's role in shaping Trump-related jurisprudence and turning the Court into a tool of the ex-President. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode. To get first dibs on live show tickets, dig into our …
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Securities and Exchange Commission v. Jarkesy
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43:21White collar ass crime... You can subscribe to 5-4 Premium on Patreon, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode was produced by Benjamin Frisch. Leon Neyfakh and Andrew Parsons provide editorial support. Our researcher is Jonathan DeBruin, and our website was designed by Peter Murphy. Our artwork is by Teddy B…
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Is being dosed against your will with mind-altering drugs just part of being a soldier? You won't believe what the famously prankish Supreme Court says... You can subscribe to 5-4 Premium on Patreon, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. Now is a good time: We have an exclusive subscriber-only episode coming next week. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. …
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You've heard about the law on 5-4… now, what if you went to a school about it? In this annual episode, let Peter, Rhiannon, and Michael tell you what you need to know if you're sticking your foot in the old meat grinder. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get exclusive Premium-only episodes, access to our Slack…
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Biden, Harris, and the Future of Court Reform (TEASER)
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4:45This is a subscriber-only episode about Biden's proposals for reforming the Supreme Court... will the hosts of 5-4 say "we do"? If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode. To get first dibs on live show tickets, dig into our Premium episode catalog, join our Slack community, and more, subscribe at fivefourpod.com/support. …
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Did the January 6th riot "obstruct an official proceeding"? That depends on how you interpret that very straightforward and unambiguous phrase. You can subscribe to 5-4 Premium on Patreon, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. Now is a good time: We have an exclusive subscriber-only episode coming next week. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episod…
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It's not about BEING homeless, it's about doing something that's homeless. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get first dibs on live show tickets, dig into our Premium episode catalog, join our Slack community, and more, subscribe at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. This episode w…
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Is social media to blame for the teen mental health crisis? It's complicated! Thanks to Emily Weinstein, Amy Orben, Andrew Przybylski, Dean Burnett, Michael Mullarkey and Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz for help researching and fact-checking this episode! Where to find us: Peter's other podcast, 5-4 Mike's other podcast, Maintenance Phase Sources: Emily Wei…
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Barbie doesn't have shit on John Roberts. Now that he's killed off Chevron deference, Roberts can be an aircraft safety inspector, biomedical researcher, highway planner, nutritionist, Atlantic herring fishing boat monitor ... the possibilities are endless! If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get first dibs on l…
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Breaking News Re-Release: "Hillbilly Elegy"
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51:12To celebrate ("celebrate") Donald Trump choosing JD Vance as his running mate we are re-releasing our "Hillbilly Elegy" episode. Enjoy!
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We once again revisit the idea that a bribe is only a bribe if it's in a pillowcase with a dollar sign on it, or from a check with "in exchange for illegal favors" on the memo line. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get first dibs on live show tickets, dig into our Premium episode catalog, membership in our Sl…
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Richard Hanania's "The Origins of Woke"
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1:01:54Peter and Michael discuss "The Origins of Woke," a glimpse into the dark aspirations of the Republican Party and the mind of a very unusual man. Where to find us: Peter's other podcast, 5-4 Mike's other podcast, Maintenance Phase Sources: What Speech Does "Hostile Work Environment" Harassment Law Restrict? Tunis v. Corning Glass Works, 698 F. Supp.…
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This case includes descriptions of domestic violence. Please take care while listening. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get first dibs on live show tickets, dig into our Premium episode catalog, membership in our Slack community, and more, join at fivefourpod.com/support. 5-4 is presented by Prologue Project…
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Take a deep breath. John Roberts just handed Donald Trump the keys to the country and said "don't bother bringing it back in one piece." If you're not a 5-4 Premium subscriber, you won't hear that Rahimi episode that we've got planned for next week. Just sayin! 5-4 is presented by Prologue Projects. Rachel Ward is our producer. Leon Neyfakh and And…
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Citing Urban Dictionary and wikiHow*, Clarence Thomas argues that a gun that can kill hundreds of people with a single trigger pull is not a machine gun. *Not actually true but those are the vibes. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To get first dibs on live show tickets, dig into our Premium episode catalog, memb…
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The Court is back at again, pretending like they don't understand politics, while handing conservatives a victory that cements their power in South Carolina. To buy tickets for our DC show, head here: https://www.seetickets.us/event/5-4-live/604614 To buy tickets for our NYC show head here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/5-4-live-tickets-912709608007…
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"The Constitutions Includes Everybody" Live at Harvard Law School
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3:56Harvard invited us back (so that's on them) to talk about the speciousness of originalism, inclusive constitutionalism, and how to get serious about court reform. Featuring Balls and Strikes' Madiba Dennie, author of The Originalism Trap: How Extremists Stole the Constitution and How We the People Can Take It Back (out now!) and Ryan Doerfler of Ha…
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Run a January 6th insurrectionist flag up the pole and see who salutes. Oh look! It's appointed-for-life Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito! Did you know that the majority of tickets to our DC and NYC shows were sold before the shows were even public? That's because our beloved Premium subscribers got first dibs. Plus they'll get to listen to the f…
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Brett Kavanaugh might have had a better shot at writing a reasonable decision if Arizona v. Navajo Nation revolved around beer rights instead of water rights, but instead the associate justice barfed up a garbled opinion about property rights. Did you know that our Premium subscribers got first dibs on our live show tickets? One of those shows is a…
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In the movies, detectives trail a suspect until he messes up and throws his DNA-soaked paper cup into the trash. In real life, they just pretend like they don't understand the word "identify" in order to abuse the 4th Amendment. If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and other Premium-only episodes, acces…
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Peter and Michael discuss the media coverage of the protests at Columbia — from the crazed, bloodthirsty ravings of right-wing media to the more muted, respectful bloodthirst of centrist media. To hear the rest of the episode, support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/IfBooksPod
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What to do if you get arrested (not legal advice™), why are the liberal justices just sitting back while conservatives devour the judiciary, and whether or not to vote for Biden - you've got questions, we've got … maybe not "answers," but definitely "responses." If you're not a 5-4 Premium member, you're not hearing every episode! To hear this and …
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Free Rhiannon! Campus Protests and the First Amendment
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1:03:36Rhi got locked up. The food was bad, the comrades were immaculate, and while the friendless centrist pundits on Twitter were wrapping themselves in knots to try to argue protests aren't speech, the kids were keeping the focus where it belongs: On Gaza. If you don't think laws are real either you can get a sick shirt about it from Shout Your Abortio…
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"Going Infinite": Michael Lewis Takes On Sam Bankman-Fried
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1:15:44Peter and Michael discuss Michael Lewis’s bestselling book about the rise and fall of Sam Bankman-Fried, a young prodigy whose only flaw was that he dreamed too big. Where to find us: Peter's other podcast, 5-4 Mike's other podcast, Maintenance Phase Sources: Michael Lewis Is Buying What Sam Bankman-Fried Is Selling Michael Lewis Likens Critics of …
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E Pluribus Unum, more like E Pluribus Sue Them! In America, if your landlord refuses to do repairs, you sue 'em. If you get food poisoning from a chain restaurant, you sue 'em. But if you're stripped of your bodily autonomy by your state legislature via a bounty hunting scheme, you CAN'T sue your state in federal court, because of Hans v. Louisiana…
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