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RESTalk, produced by RESNET.us is the best way to stay up-to-date on everything going on in the world of Home Energy Ratings (HERS), including initiatives, standards, marketing, and more. Hosted by building performance veteran Bill Spohn, the show features interviews with the RESNET team and prominent guests from throughout the rating and home building industries, discussing a wide range of topics, current events and new technologies.
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The Building Performance Podcast is an interview series drawing on the experience and ideas of a wide array of professionals in the high performance building industry. The intersection of advances in building technologies, the energy crisis, green building trends, and the environmental crisis has made it hard to pursue business-as-usual. The general climate is forcing those of us in the building industry to take a more integrated, systematic approach to building. We talk with engineers, poli ...
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The greatest value of a picture is when it forces us to notice what we never expected to see. John Tukey In this episode of RESTalk, host Bill Spohn welcomes his most frequent guest, RESNET staff member, Ryan Meres, to discuss the latest trends in the 2024 edition of the HERS-rated homes. This report, created as an initiative of the RESNET Supplier…
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Great things in business are never done by one person. They’re done by a team of people. Steve Jobs Bill Spohn welcomes RESNET staff member Clara Hedrick to discuss the upcoming RESNET 2025 conference. Clara, the lead events coordinator for RESNET, shares her excitement about the event and details her responsibilities. The conference is scheduled f…
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"In the end, we will conserve only what we love; we will love only what we understand; and we will understand only what we are taught." — Baba Dioum In the latest episode of RESTalk podcast, Bill Spohn hosts Paulette McGhie and Ryan Meres to discuss RESNET®'s innovative approaches to water, carbon, and building codes. Paulette McGhie, who recently …
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"Build-to-rent isn't just about providing a place to live; it's about crafting communities where flexibility and convenience meet modern living standards." In this episode of the RESTalk podcast, host Bill Spohn welcomed returning guest Laurel Elam and new participant Thomas Cochran. The discussion primarily centered on the burgeoning trend of buil…
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Today Corbett goes down a new rabbit hole in healthy homes, with the many compounds that contain lead, which we are still being sold in shops and groceries at this very moment. Learn how to identify lead-containing consumer products and parts of your home with Eric Ritter's new DIY lighting fast DIY Lead Test Kit (https://DetectLead.com). For the v…
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"Advocacy is the mirror reflecting the voices of the community into the corridors of power." - Unknown In today’s podcast we cover the topic of advocacy and public policy in the context of the residential energy sector learning from our guests Robert Pegues, General Manager of Technical Delivery at US Ecologic, and RESNET board member, and Carl Chi…
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"I never dreamed about success. I worked for it." - Estée Lauder We welcome Sharla Riead, Lead Instructor at Energy Smart Institute and Emelie Cuppernell Glitch, VP Programs at Performance Systems Development to focusing on the recognition of women in the HERS (Home Energy Rating System) rating industry. Sharla shares her extensive background, begi…
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Today we talk with HVAC design legend Russ King (https://kwikmodel.com) about how to trim the fat out of heat load calculations in Manual J (and how you sometimes can't), along with fine points on duct design, grille selections, and a brand new movement in software to help homeowners perform their own load calculations (https://DIYloadcalcs.com). H…
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The best way to predict your future is to create it. - Abraham Lincoln Data is king, they say. How can the RESNET Quality Assurance (QA) app's data insights revolutionize how we rate energy-efficient homes? Imagine a world where getting your home energy rating was made easier by using a smartphone app. Is that the future the RESNET QA app promises?…
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Time is neutral and does not change things. With courage and initiative, leaders change things. - Jesse Jackson The advent of a new year naturally brings broader thinking, more introspection, and the creation of future goals. What future goal has RESNET’s board recently adopted? What near-term initiatives create the path to that goal? How confident…
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That’s the funny thing about time. It is only in looking back that it’s easy to connect the dots. To see exactly why everything needed to happen the way that it did. - Rebecca Serle 11 episodes, 11 topics, 17 different guests and over 5 hours of RES-Talking in 2023! We covered a lot of ground in the RESTalk podcast in 2023, now going into our 6th y…
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Whatever good things we build end up building us. -Jim Rohn In today’s episode we chat with Michael Lee coordinator of the Construction Technology Program at Texarkana College in Texarkana, TX. We learn of his back story which led him to this role. He thoughtfully describes the approach he has taken to build the construction technology department a…
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Coming together is a beginning, keeping together is progress; working together is success. -Edward Everett Hale On today’s podcast we welcome Clara Hedrick and Emma Bennett to give us up to date and inside information about the Upcoming RESNET conference: Nov 15-17, 2023 in San Diego, CA. Since the last face to face conference was in 2020, and afte…
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Sustainability is no longer about doing less harm. It’s about doing more good. -Jochen Zeitz In this episode of the RESTalk podcast we are joined by Robert Broad, Senior Vice President of Development at AMH (NYSE: AMH), where he oversees new home and community development operations - including land acquisition, land development, purchasing, produc…
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Sustainable development is the pathway to the future we want for all. It is a framework to generate economic growth, achieve social justice, exercise environmental stewardship and strengthen governance. -Ban Ki-moon ESG has become an integral factor in the financial world. The Structured Finance Association estimates that $11.6 trillion, or $1 of e…
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“Example is not the main thing in influencing others. It is the only thing.” -Albert Schweitzer Habitat for Humanity’s mission is to help families build and improve places to call home. In the process developing strong and stable communities with affordable housing. Often household utility costs make affordability a challenge. What factors need to …
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“The trend is your friend.” -Mark Zweig With Texas as the leading state in new home starts, we can expect some housing trends first to arise there. Why was House Bill 3215 developed and enacted in Texas? What entities and organizations participated in developing the language in the bill? How will this impact the HERS industry in Texas and elsewhere…
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“Data is the most valuable asset in the world.” - Brittany Kaiser Housing trends have significant importance to the RESNET community. In addition to tracking progress with RESNET HERS Ratings, the hundreds of data points collected on each home provide insights into the trends in energy efficiency, component selection and electrification. What are s…
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“Doing your best in this moment puts you in the best place for the next moment.” -Oprah Winfrey A critical element in the decarbonization of homes is the embodied carbon produced in the construction of homes. As the current RESNET Carbon Index® only covers the carbon produced due to energy used in a home, what do we do next? What type of standards …
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“Leadership is the capacity to translate vision into reality.” -Warren Bennis What are some of the qualities embodied in outstanding board leaders? Someone who has experience in business leadership roles. A person that has a proven track record in developing and executing strategy. Someone who demonstrates a forward-thinking mentality. In today’s p…
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“The big picture doesn’t just come from distance; it also comes from time.” -Simon Sinek Climate change is becoming an increasing concern. The private sector, individuals as well as state, local and federal governments are seeking to combat climate change by reducing greenhouse gas emissions. As the energy used in all buildings, including homes, is…
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“The achievements of an organization are the results of the combined effort of each individual. -Vince Lombardi Strong organizations fulfill their mission by periodically reflecting on their goals and priorities. RESNET is no exception having adopted their 2023 Mission, Goals and Priorities by vote of the Board of Directors on October 7, 2022. How …
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Without reflection, we go blindly on our way, creating more unintended consequences, and failing to achieve anything useful. - Margaret J. Wheatley 23 episodes, 23 topics and 34 different guests. We covered a lot of ground in the RESTalk podcast in 2022, now going into our 5th year of episodes. (Over 12 hours of conversations about the world of RES…
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I remind myself every morning:Nothing I say this day will teach me anything. So, if I’m going to learn, I must do it by listening. Larry King Change is a constant. Gathering feedback, reviewing changes and trends and acting upon the results is critical to maintaining a successful business, organization or system. As we look back on 2022, and look f…
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Those that educate the market, own the market. Emily Mottram We’ve all heard of advanced housing concepts that require little net energy to operate. Architects, builders, and suppliers in the residential construction industry often get together at conferences and locally and sometimes birth new concepts while challenging others. What kind of ideas …
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The only source of knowledge is experience. Albert Einstein The message is clear, HVAC equipment is often the largest energy-consuming system in a home. While listeners likely know about blower door and duct leakage tests, what impact do blower Watt draw and refrigerant charge on HVAC energy use? What can we learn from an HVAC expert with so much e…
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Passion provides purpose, but data drives decisions Andy Dunn What does CO2e mean? What are the impacts of time and location on energy use and production? How and why are we morphing from energy as a proxy for emissions? We are joined on today’s podcast by David Goldstein, Energy Co-Director at the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) and John …
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We must shift our thinking away from short term gain toward long-term investment and sustainability, and always have the next generations in mind with every decision we make.. Deb Haaland What does it take to start a conversation on smaller homes in a community that traditionally bans them? How can we collaborate to move the conversations to realit…
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Simplicity is the outcome of technical subtlety. It is the goal, not the starting point. Maurice Saatchi It’s worth repeating that HVAC equipment is often the largest energy-consuming system in a home. While listeners have likely run duct leakage and blower airflow tests, how did we arrive at the straightforward, almost simple test equipment and me…
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“Once something is a passion, the motivation is there.” Michael Schumacher The Cross-Border Challenge is an annual event sponsored by RESNET and the Canadian Residential Energy Services Network (CRESNET) to recognize U.S. and Canadian builders who are pioneering the path to high-energy performance homes. CRESNET is RESNET’s sister organization in C…
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“Positive attitude plus effort equals performance.” Tommy Tuberville As we hear more about droughts, what is the impact on residential new construction? Why did KB Home feel it was important to commit to the WaterSense label for all future home builds in Arizona, California, and Nevada? How is KB Home using RESNET’s HERSH2O water efficiency rating …
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“The hidden harmony is better than the obvious.” Heraclitus Earlier this year RESNET was approved as a Home Certification Organization (HCO) for the California ENERGY STAR Homes Program by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). What are the roots of this partnership with CalCERTS? Who will benefit from this harmony? What benefits will evolve fo…
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“Sustainability is no longer about doing less harm. It’s about doing more good.” Jochen Zeitz How is the topic of energy efficiency in new single-family homes addressed in the mortgage industry? What pillars of ESG (Environmental, Social & Governance) are at play in this system and who are the players? We are joined on today’s podcast by Simone Bea…
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“Passion is what gives meaning to our lives. It’s what allows us to achieve success beyond our wildest imagination. Try to find a career path you have a passion for.” Henry Samueli The RESNET ecosystem continues to grow and morph as demand increases and external factors change. What new opportunities exist for those already in or considering enteri…
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“The details are not the details. They make the design.” Charles Eames HVAC equipment is often the largest energy consuming system in a home. While listeners are likely grounded in the aspect of “house as a system,” where does the rubber meet the road when it comes to HVAC system design? In today’s podcast, we begin part one of a three-part series …
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“It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has the data.” Arthur Conan Doyle Details make the difference to builders and their customers, really to the whole new home construction industry. Trends emerge when one studies HERS rating details over a large national dataset and over time. What kind of theories can we draw from data in “Trends in H…
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“The minute you decide to do what you love to do, you have made a life plan for yourself and a career choice” Huda Kattan What are the perspectives of those new to the building industry? RESNET’s Emerging Leadership Council (ELC) Fellows program provides recognition for future leaders. What are some of the reasons they got “noticed”? How do this ye…
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Today Corbett drills down into the details of high-resolution, long-lasting testing trackers called 'dataloggers' with Paul Gannett, an engineer at HOBO by Onset. These days we can track the temperature, humidity, carbon dioxide (CO2), light levels, electrical load, and so much more with these instruments that often cost under $200 (which used to b…
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“Anytime we step boldly to make changes, we take a chance that we might fail. But the only way to get better is to try.“ -Joyce Meyer How do you define sustainable home building? What will sustainable home building look like in 2022? Where can you get a handle on data to help drive your decisions in this area? What are the bold steps you can take? …
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“A creative man is motivated by the desire to achieve, Not by the desire to beat others “ -Ayn Rand What’s it like in the rating world north of our border? What are some of things that the Canadian Raters do that parallel or differ from what is done in the US? What can we learn from our neighbors to the north though a cross border challenge? The Cr…
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“Science does not know its debt to imagination. “ -Ralph Waldo Emerson More and more we hear of the impact of carbon on our society and environment. Recent data says that operational carbon (the carbon that comes from energy, heat, lighting, etc. ) is becoming less of a factor. Now. attention is now shifting to embodied carbon - the carbon dioxide …
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“Leaders don’t create followers; they create more leaders. “ -Tom Peters Employee retention is a hot topic as 1/3 of new employees leave their job after about 6 months. Additionally, over 70% of employers are having a tough time recruiting skilled candidates. How does RESNET’s Emerging Leadership Council (ELC) work to address these challenges? How …
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“I hope to continue to inspire our nation’s youth to pursue careers in science, technology engineering, and math so they, too, may reach for the stars.“ -Ellen Ochoa (American engineer, former astronaut, and former director of the Johnson Space Center) The percentage of women in the construction industry grew from 9.9 percent in 2018, to 10.9 perce…
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“You can have data without information, but you cannot have information without data. -Daniel Keys Moran Time marches on. And so do the changes in the demographics of buyers. What are the characteristics of home buyers, especially those that buy HERS rated homes? How can those in the HERS industry align with the factors important to the new wave of…
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“The fun for me in collaboration is, one, working with other people just makes you smarter; that’s proven.” -Lin-Manuel Miranda There are some distinct megatrends that will increase the number of NetZero homes. How is the ICC facilitating the drive to Net Zero homes? How is RESNET collaborating with ICC on this topic? We are joined today by two exe…
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“Collaboration is a key part of the success of any organization, executed through a clearly defined vision and mission and based on transparency and constant communication." -Dinesh Paliwal In simplest terms, what path is RESNET on? What is the RESNET mission? How are the goals crafted that align with and fulfill the mission? How are priorities and…
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“For me, conferences are like little mental vacations: a chance to go visit an interesting place for a couple of days, and come back rested and refreshed with new ideas and perspectives.” -Erin McKean Con-fer-ence: a large official meeting, usually lasting for a few days, at which people with the same work or interests come together to discuss thei…
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“Whether it’s the best of times or the worst of times, It’s the only time we’ve got.” - Art Buchwald 23 episodes, 23 topics and 22 different guests. We covered a lot of ground in the RESTalk podcast in 2021. We hope we stimulated your thinking and moved you into action in this sometimes complex world of home energy ratings. If you’d like to dig a l…
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“Most decisions are not binary, and there are usually better answers waiting to be found if you do the analysis and involve the right people.” -Jamie Dimon The topics of real time data and data analytics are discussed in many businesses circles these days. As the RESNET Board and Quality Assurance (QA) team charts a path to move RESNET QA from the …
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“Women are the real architects of society.” -Cher By some estimates, women make up only about 10 percent of those employed in the construction industry. What would it take to design and build a home solely by women? Would there be enough interest, enough women available in one area? We are joined by Natalie Miles (project manager and designer for W…
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