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Think, Pair, Swear

Justin Orscheln and Ronnie Lathrop

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Think, Pair, Swear, a podcast exploring the strange, sometimes ridiculous, sometimes dead on portrayals of the field of education in popular culture. Hosted by Justin Orscheln, former elementary Music teacher turned assistant-principal and Ronnie Lathrop, retired high school English teacher.
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Summer Schooled: Camp - Race for Your Life, Charlie Brown Was it a comment on internment camps or a glimpse into a post-apocalyptic world, campers? You decide. We follow the gang from Peanuts on a trauma filled adventure. What could happen in a world with no adult supervision? A menstrual flag, feral children at gas stations, Linus’s deformed clone…
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Summer Schooled: Camp - Wet Hot American Summer Hold onto your butts and don’t light those farts on fire, campers. We visit a hot mess parody of 80s summer camp sex comedies. What could happen on the last day of camp? Talking cans of vegetables, anal sex in a shed, horny gum chewing, children giving relationship role play therapy, the skylab crashi…
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Summer Schooled: Camp - Little Darlings Summer break continues, campers. What happens when two girls place bets on who loses their virginity first? Gay coding, adolescent lung disease, a staff member with the hairiest back in recorded cinema history, a gas station condom machine exploding, “Miranda?” in the voice of Steve from in the City, a hairle…
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Summer Camp: Theater Camp Welcome to summer break, campers. This summer we are covering five films set at summer camps. What happens when the matriarch of a camp for theater kids goes into a strobe light related coma at a production of Bye, Bye Birdie? One man/woman shows for bedtime stories, classes on past life identification, The Crucible Junior…
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There’s listener mail involving Pez dispensers, psychotic nuns, Justin supplying Emily Valentine with rolls of quarters, and teachers that don’t like authority figures. They put two School House Rock songs on trial and Judge Jeff Vincent (Ronnie’s other half) sentences one of them to die as it’s a battle for the worst. Which host presents the best …
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Anticipatory Set: A year after the release of this film, Ronald Reagan sounded the alarm on American education called “A Nation at Risk”: a series of lies and hyperbole that kicked off a narrative of teachers as villains and public education as a failure. Repercussion still felt today. Schooled: Former high school teacher and San Diego resident Mat…
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Anti Set: Ronnie attempted to have Chat GPT humorously summarize a real lawsuit involving a teacher let go for testing positive for drugs after having an epileptic seizure. Does a school district have the right to drug test teachers? Looks like the Connecticut courts have an answer and the host have an answer for how Chat GPT interprets humor: lots…
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Anti Set: People of color are not going into education and many are beginning to notice. How do colleges and school districts attract diverse hires especially when DEI programs are being demonized by politicians on the right? Justin found an article with some solutions. Schooled: It’s a trip back in time to London in the 1960s and the hosts are dro…
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Anti Set: A teacher sets up a fight club in their school, a student is injured and parents file a lawsuit. Yes. This really happened. Why? Just why? While student engagement was probably at an all time high, it isn’t advised. Schooled: This lesbian girl fight club saga has it all: Pre-DUI Marshawn Lynch, caged football players, “Total Eclipse of th…
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Anti Set: Is your principal a psychopath? A teacher in Australia worked with one and wrote a book about it. How can you tell if you too are working with one? This article gives us some hints, and it hits a little too close to home for Ronnie. Schooled: What if your teacher was a narcissistic sociopath? This theme is explored and would have been a g…
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Anti Set: The rich kids at an elite New York school are hosting parties at exclusive venues and charging each other for the experience. They turned it into a niche money making opportunity and good for them. Would our hosts attend that kind of party back then? Schooled: Two episodes. The emergence of Emily Valentine as psychotic. That's what’s onbo…
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Anti Set: Guess what? Journalists frequently leave out the voice of educators when covering education, and frequently focus on firings and school board happenings. Shocker. One researcher has an idea to shift that but will journalists or school districts listen? Schooled: Another teacher tries to get with a student in this romantic comedy that made…
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Anticipatory Set: Justin has a history lesson on federally funded indigenous boarding schools, and the trauma they caused Native Americans in the United States. All in the name of assimilation and a cheap labor force. Horrifying. Getting schooled: Keeping with the light tone, our hosts critique this World War II drama where priests hide Jewish stud…
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Anticipatory Set: What were the different student groups you had when you were in school? Ronnie offers some data from a study on high school hierarchies and where students see themselves from 2023. Were Ronnie and Justin a part of the popular kids? The jocks? Avid listeners already know the answer to this one. Getting schooled: We’re going back to…
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Anti Set: Between the serious news item vs something a bit lighter, choices were made and then regretted. Justin, in lieu of it being his birthday “season” would like to hear a favorite memory Ronnie has from celebrating his birthday. Stories were told. Nothing like a 30-something homosexual celebrating their birthday all month to make one regret t…
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Anticipatory Set: Should a teacher supplement their low salary by doing an OnlyFans? Well two English teachers from the same Missouri high school found out the answer to that in the last year. And the answer is sure. But can you use it for career ladder hours? Getting Schooled: Whoa. This was a heavy one to watch. One definitely finds out what Stin…
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Anticipatory Set: White teachers who teach students of color are offered advice from an instructional coach at a Title 1 charter school. Basically don’t do what the film version of Luann does in Dangerous Minds. Getting Schooled: Luann Johnson is probably a lovely woman in real life but this movie version of her is a mess, and not just because Mich…
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Anticipatory Set: Ronnie channels his inner My Favorite Murder with the first recorded school shooting in 1853 a time when a mansion cost 80K. It was a bummer of a story that sounds as equally 2023 as it does from the 19th century. Prepare to be disappointed by the judicial system too. Getting Schooled: Justin is finally introduced to the Buffyvers…
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Anticipatory Set: Justin shares some information on students overspreading themselves with extracurricular activities. How much is too much? Ronnie complains a lot and regrets that his school didn’t have a beekeeping or calligraphy club. Does one need a sponsor for a beekeeping club? Getting Schooled: Max Fisher has way too many extracurriculars wi…
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Anticipatory Set: Were narcs a real thing or just an 80s urban legend from 21 Jump Street? We find out the secret history of narcs in the United States, and Ronnie thinks there were two at his high school. Cops in high schools weren’t always school resource officers. Getting Schooled: Ronnie gets a little carried away with the synopsis on this one,…
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Anticipatory Set: What are the ten types of problematic parents schools face? And who knew there were just ten and not two hundred? Stories are shared including a parent whose daughter battles raccoons in a crawlspace. How does one best handle these hot messes? Strategies are offered, ridiculed and refined. Getting Schooled: How many dirty pillows …
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Anticipatory Set: With all the sweeping social changes in Florida public schools, how’d they do across the board their first semester? They got their latest report card, and it looks fantastic! Just kidding. It’s a sh*t show. Getting Schooled: This movie had it all. Copy machine fights. 80s breasts. Opposing counsel in a lawsuit roaming the halls, …
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Anticipatory Set: What happens when a public school principal removes a student from student government and sabotages her scholarship chances for twerking at a party telling her she’s not pleasing the Lord Jesus Christ? Turns out he apologizes and resigns for the rest of the school year. Getting schooled: Justin has a crush on Walton Groggin’s char…
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Anticipatory Set: As if putting on a public school theater production wasn’t hard enough, now all over the United States parents and school boards are getting them censored or banned. Masks, queer kids, books and now the performing arts. Next up, football. Ha. Sure, Jan. Dalton shares a story about the blood sacrifice a student made from the musica…
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Class is back in session! Anticipatory Set: Schools are still cutting arts programs. How is this still a thing? Athletics is still untouchable, but the school musical? Pottery? Dance? They’ve got to go. Unbelievable. Getting schooled: Glenn Holland is a horrible human. He won’t learn ASL to talk to his deaf son. He takes a rebellious kid to a funer…
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Season 1 Bonus Surprise! The Bonus is early! The podcast has listeners in Thailand, Vietnam, and Sedgwickville, Missouri. Hello, friends! There is some listener feedback as well as listener stories involving underwear: a revealing accident during a production of Grease and some drunk teachers laugh a little too hard. Advice was given. Ronnie talks …
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Anticipatory Set: Some more court cases made some headlines, and are going to affect education. Get ready for more lawsuits, y’all. Document everything! Getting Schooled: Matthew Broderick checks out the dumper on First Lady Mellie Grant. Reese Witherspoon pronounces the word “better” weird and doesn’t know the trick to sticking posters to cinder b…
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Anticipatory Set: Someone threw chicken feed during a school board meeting. Really. That happened. Getting Schooled: It’s known as the “Donna Martin Graduates” episodes, but we know it as two steaming piles of garbage. What school district operates this way? Who okayed these board meetings? Why is Tori Spelling? Just Why? Special musical guest star…
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1.08 Saved! Anticipatory Set: Social media is being regulated in some schools while others are actually suing social media itself. Go, girl! Get it! Social media has been the bane of administrators and teachers for years now. Getting Schooled: This film had everything: Mandy Moore without all the old person-This Is Us aging, a principal/youth pasto…
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Anticipatory Set: Recent Supreme Court rulings have a direct impact on education, and we have some thoughts. It’s going to get messier up in this profession for sure. Getting Schooled: The first two episodes of this controversial Australian mockumentary shocked and reflected types of students and staff all too familiar to us. Ja’mie’s mean girl has…
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Anticipatory Set: Texas explored teacher merit pay but not just based on test scores. Was watching teachers jump through hoops worth it? Not so much. Getting Schooled: So all teachers teach because they have been unsuccessful in other ventures. That’s the tired theme these filmmakers explored. How many movies are too many movies to show in class? I…
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Anticipatory Set: A Christian School loses its funding for supporting its LGBTQIA+ students, and we lose our minds over it. Recent book bans also take a ride on this set. Getting Schooled: The first two episodes of season one introduce us to a very horny high school. Poor Mia is that one girl gay men tested out and broke their heart. Never make fri…
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Anticipatory Set: Parents can get fined and go to jail for allowing children to drink at their homes in Massachusetts. The trope “At least they're drinking under my supervision” is ridiculed. Getting Schooled: What happens when a group of teachers conduct and experiment to stay just drunk enough during the school day and their waking lives? Improve…
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Anticipatory Set: Ungrading is apparently a thing. Its roots are problematic but has evolved into an intriguing concept. Should your school try it? Meh. Getting Schooled: John Stewart wasn’t that bad. What was bad: Frodo snorting caffeine, Piper Laurie’s wigs both pre- and post-alien infestation, and a school that looked like a set from The Walking…
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Anticipatory Set: Pennsylvania had a significant drop in teacher certificates being issued in ten years. To make up for the difference, many emergency certificates were issued to non-teachers. We had thoughts. Getting Schooled: the first two episodes of season one of Abbott Elementary left us wondering if Janine should be in education, why so many …
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Anticipatory Set: Some schools are blocking Chat GPT while some are embracing it. Who cares really? We do that’s who, and Chat GPT created a one act play to prove it. Getting Schooled: Billy Madison takes us on a journey filled with frightening educators, bus drivers with issues, and Adam Sandler’s vocal range. Some butts were cleaned out by sprink…
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Coming August 7th, 2023--the podcast, "Think Pair Swear." Come explore the ridiculous, off the wall, and sometimes spot on portrayals of the field of education in pop culture and media. Your hosts, Justin Orscheln and Ronnie Lathrop, give a sneak peek into episodes to come. Facebook: ThinkPairSwear Instagram: Think_Pair_Swear Discord: https://disco…
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