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Coaches Lisa Levin and Julie Sapper provide tips and tricks for running farther, faster, and stronger. After running the Boston Marathon 32 times collectively, Julie and Lisa, along with weekly guests, provide advice for training and racing. While specific to Boston, this podcast is appropriate for runners of all levels and ages.
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Wining About Herstory

Wining About Herstory

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Have you ever wondered where all of the women were in your history books? You're not alone! Join long time gal pals, Kelley & Emily, as they swap stories about incredible women from history over a cheap bottle of wine. They take wining to a whole new level. Women's history has never been this tipsy!
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The Way of Champions Podcast is brought to you by Changing the Game Project and hosted by Changing the Game founder John O'Sullivan. Each week we connect you with the top minds in sports, coaching, leadership, and building championship programs so you can take your athletes and teams to the next level.
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After spending the last 22 months diligently rehabbing after ACL surgery, Julie attempted a marathon and spoiler alert—crossed the finish line in 3:45 and qualified for the Boston Marathon at the Last Chance to BQ.2 Marathon in Batavia/St. Charles, Illinois. In this episode, Julie shares all the details about her race, including her training, fueli…
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In this replay from 2019, John talks with Ted Kroeten (@Joyofthepeople), founder of Joy of the People, a free play soccer program in Minnesota. Kroeten leads the way in rethinking and delivering player development always championing kids and possibilities based on his experienced, dedicated, and innovative soccer career. Joy of the People’s mission…
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Juwan Brescacin (@jbrescacinjones82) is a former collegiate football player at Northern Illinois University and the 15th overall Canadian Football League draft pick in 2016. He played 8 years professionally in Canada, winning two Grey Cups (2018 and 2022) before retiring and founding the High Point Athletes Foundation. Today he is pursuing a master…
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Same shit, different way! Kelley tells the story of Penelope Barker, a woman living in the American Colonies who capitalized on several husbands' (unintentional) deaths to raise her status, make her own money, and start the first women's led political movement! Then, Emily tells the story Phyllis Lumley, the woman behind the viral 1950s television …
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Brett White is a seasoned sports coach and leadership expert with over 17 years of experience in football (soccer) coaching. He currently serves as the Head Coach for Bonnet Bay FC’s First Grade team in the SSFA Premier League. He has a rich history of fostering talent and managing large teams, having served as the Coach & Player Development Coordi…
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The Ladies are BACK! AGAIN! For the 238th time! First, Emily celebrates the Olympics by covering Olympian Matilda 'Lida' Scott Howell, who found love and success through archery, making history at the first Olympic Games to be held in the U.S. Then, Kelley tells the story of Susan Ahn Cuddy, a Korean American woman who proved just what a woman coul…
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Episode 219: When we saw Nate Kahaiali’i’s story on the CBS Evening News, we had to have him on our show to share his story. Nate is a middle school teacher in Lahaina, Hawaii, who was training for the 2023 Chicago Marathon when his home was destroyed by fire. Nate managed to grab his running shoes before fleeing his home and used those shoes to pu…
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Dr. Joe Baker (@bakerjyorku) is the Tanenbaum Research Chair at the University of Toronto, Canada. He is a world-leader in research on talent identification, developing sport expertise, relative age effect, and high performance athlete development and has held visiting researcher/professor positions in the United Kingdom, Australia and Germany. His…
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In this excellent conversation from 2021, we are joined by Rasmus Ankersen (@RasmusAnkersen), an internationally known author, speaker, and film producer and one of the worlds leading experts on talent identification and development. Today he is one of the founders of Sport Republic, which is the majority shareholder of Southampton FC, where he als…
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In this episode we welcome back Amy Goldsmith, RD, to discuss the Women’s Olympic Marathon, the impact of under fueling on injury, particularly among endurance athletes, and what we as amateur runners can learn from the 2024 Olympics. Amy Goldsmith, RD, has worked with hundreds of athletes in her practice, Kindred Nutrition. Amy specializes in spor…
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Ken Rouff and Jean Linscott are the authors of What is the Goal? The Truth About the Youth Sports Industry. Today we discuss their new, book, many of the problems with the youth sports industrial complex and how it more often than not negatively effects children and drives them out of sports. Ken, jean and John share their own parenting experiences…
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After discussing the Olympic Marathon events, we welcomed one of our very special runners, Susan Spencer, who had been running for over 40 years and continues to improve upon her age-graded times. Susan shares how she is joyfully running marathons after an 18-year hiatus. Susan also shares her tips for staying motivated and avoiding the comparison …
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We are excited to be back after a July break filled with racing, travel, and summer training. Speaking of which, we discuss in this episode how to overcome common summer setbacks to set yourself up for a successful fall racing season. We also discuss our favorite Olympic moments and what we can all learn from so many of our amazing Olympians. You c…
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Neill Collins is a former professional soccer player, with nearly 600 appearances across clubs such as Sunderland, Leeds, Wolves, Sheffield United, and the Tampa Bay Rowdies. As a player he won promotion to the English Premier League with both Wolves and Sunderland, and played under managers such as Roy Keane and Mick McCarthy. In 2018 he became he…
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Mike Lee (@whoisMikeLee) is a globally recognized keynote speaker, internationally sold author, and coach who shares high-performance leadership lessons from inside the hearts and minds of NBA’s elite. His work helps individual contributors, leaders and organizations elevate engagement, win the war for talent, and create cultures of belonging in a …
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Maggie Mertens www.MaggieMertens.com) is a writer, journalist, and editor located in Seattle. Her essays and reporting have appeared in The Atlantic, NPR, Sports Illustrated, ESPNw, Deadspin, VICE, The Cut, Glamour, Pacific Standard, Refinery29, and Creative Nonfiction, among others. Her work has also appeared in The Year’s Best Sports Writing 2021…
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We are Gerbil Money Pit and we are here to rock your faces off! First, Kelley tells the story of Penta who, to avoid her pervy brother, cut off her hands, gave birth to a dog, and attended the world's worst pity party. Then, Emily covers Elizabeth 'Baby Doe' Tabor, an ambitious young woman whose meteoric rise and fall is still legendary in Colorado…
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Tara VanDerveer was the head women's basketball coach at Stanford University from 1985 until her retirement in 2024. VanDerveer was a 10 time Pac-12 Coach of the Year and the 1990 National Coach of the year, and led the Stanford Cardinal to three NCAA Women's Division I Basketball Championships: in 1990, 1992 and 2021. She took a leave of absence i…
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This week's episode is sponsored by unmitigated nonsense! Emily covers Sarah Kidder who wasn't kidding around when she became the first woman President of a (questionably named) railroad! Then, Kelley tells the story of Helen Gardener (the artist formally known as Alice Chenoweth) who was a writer, activist, and intellectual, but DEFINTELY NOT a fe…
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So many marathoners hate the 5K distance—and for good reason—5Ks hurt! What if we told you, though, that 5Ks, especially during a marathon training cycle, can make you a better marathoner? In this episode, we share why, how and when to race a 5K during a marathon training cycle. Listen if you are ready to take your running to the next level. You ca…
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Urs Koenig is a veteran executive coach, professor, ultra-endurance champion, former UN Peacekeeper, author, and keynote speaker. All these seemingly disparate paths led him to one idea: that the best leaders lead from a place of humility. Urs has captured those ideas in his new book, Radical Humility: Be a Badass Leader and a Good Human. His lesso…
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The ladies are here to drink and validate your beautiful self! Kelley tells the story of Laura Bridgman, a disabled woman who redefined what people thought a blind and deaf person could accomplish. Then, Emily covers Gudrid Thorbjarnardóttir, a far traveling Viking woman who had bad luck with husbands, but great fortune with traveling the world. Gr…
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This time of year there is a lot of fear in sport, We see it in the Copa America and Euro Soccer championships, Olympic Trials, and even on the youth level as our kids tryout for teams. In this podcast replay from 2021, we are joined by Owen Eastwood (@oweneastwood), one of the world’s most sought after high performance coaches. He has worked with …
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Swarthy fireman, gaslighting cohosts, and looks that could kill! Emily shares the story of Kate the ghost, a hard working gal who got caught up in men's bullshit and now haunts the location of her greatest tragedy. Then, Kelley tells the story of Eliza Suggs who, despite suffering from brittle bone syndrome, brought short girl energy to everything …
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We are thrilled to welcome Dr. Jay Spector, who shares why super shoes can sometimes lead to injury, along with form tips, and ways to avoid typical podiatric pitfalls. Dr. Spector has been practicing in the greater Atlanta area since 1994. He specializes in surgery and sports medicine. Dr. Spector was the Chairman of the PRESENT Sports Medicine Vi…
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Dr. Jay Martin is entering his 48th season as the Ohio Wesleyan Men's Soccer Coach in 2024. During his tenure his teams have amassed 750 victories, making Martin the winningest NCAA Men's soccer coach of all time. His teams have also won 2x NCAA Championships and 26 Conference Championships, so he knows a little something about culture and winning …
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It's Dairy Appreciation Month y'all so naturally, we're wining about LGBTQ ladies! First, Kelley tells the story of Mary Frith, AKA Mol Cutpurse, used her affinity for masculine clothes to further her criminal enterprises. Then, Emily talks about Kitty Tsui, a multi-hyphenate living legend who helped to establish the AAPI Lesbian community in Calif…
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Stetson Lawrence (@StetsonLawrence) is a former professional bull rider with Chippewa Sioux Native American heritage. He was on the professional tour for over a decade and ranked in the top 25 in the world, reaching 9 PBR World Finals and being the first to ride many of the world's toughest bulls. Bull riding is both an art and a sport where mental…
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Falling uteruses! Epic gore! A vindicated grandma! Author of 'Better Faster Farther: How Running Changed Everything We Know About Women,' Maggie Mertens joins the ladies to talk about these topics and more! Better Faster Farther explores the history of women in running, the myths that were designed to hold women back, and the liberation women have …
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In this episode, we did a deep dive into what, when, why, and how to qualify for the Boston Marathon. Questions? Reach out to us at julieandlisa@runfartherandfaster.com. Share this episode with anyone who you think would find this information helpful. . Connect with us!Instagram: @runfartherandfasterFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/RunFartherFast…
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Katie Steele (@thrivementalhealththerapy) is a licensed marriage and family therapist and cofounder of Thrive Mental Health, an outpatient mental health clinic in Bend, Oregon. She is also the founder of Athlete’s Mental Health Foundation, a 501(c)(3) launched in January 2023. Competing in track and cross-country at the University of Oregon and Flo…
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With thanks to Li Perez, the ladies are drinking some GORG Stella Pino Grigio to wine about boobs, women, and how history hates women! First, Emily tells the story of author Nobuku Yoshiya, an open lesbian who defined the Shojo and Yuri genres and went to extreme legal lengths to be with her partner! Then, Kelley tells the story of Vasilissa Vasily…
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We are thrilled to welcome our longtime friend, Dr. Brad Serwer, an interventional cardiologist, who shares how and why all runners must pay attention to their heart health. We discuss heart issues specific to runners, including prevention, signs of heart disease, effects of statins, and so much more. More about Dr. Serwer—Before entering private p…
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Jeff Jones (@jonseyjeff1) has spent the past four years as the Arkansas St. Red Wolves’ Assistant Athletics Director for Athletics Performance. He has 19 years of coaching experience at the collegiate level, including prior stops working with football at Arkansas State, Boise State, Auburn and Appalachian State. Jones came to Arkansas State owning …
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