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People Talking Sitting Down is a podcast built to peel back the layers of the human experience. Through sharing, connecting, and listening to the experiences of others it is our goal to love, empathize, and think a little differently than usual.
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Sasquatch Tracks

Micah Hanks, Dakota Waddell and Jeff Smith

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Sasquatch Tracks takes a scientific look at whether there are large animal species that remain undiscovered. With special emphasis on the Sasquatch in North America, the show looks at claims of apelike “relict hominoids” and other animals purported to exist in various parts of the world.
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Ranger for Life

The Darby Project

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We learn nothing from the stories we don't tell and the successes/mistakes we don't share. These lessons help shape future generations of Rangers, and provide a source of inspiration to those in need of some. Rangers are leaders, and that comes with a price. Collaborating together and creating an area of growth helps to lessen the burden for each, making wanting to be a leader even after you take the uniform off. Do you want to help others by sharing your story? Start by registering at www.d ...
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The American mental health system is broken beyond repair. Rather than trying to tweak a system which fails everyone, it is time to commit to a bold vision for a better way forward. This podcast explores the American system against the plumb line of an international best practice, recognized by the World Health Organization (WHO), in Trieste, Italy. The 40-year old Trieste model demonstrates how a community-based treatment system upholds the human rights of the people served. The Trieste sto ...
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Meet Georgette Darby in this interview. She is one remarkable woman who has endured so much and has emerged strong and resilient. Georgette has a Bachelor of Science in Public Administration with an emphasis in Criminal Justice from California State University at Dominguez Hills. She graduated in 1996. She also has an AA degree in Science, Computer…
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Whether it be throwing weights around at the gym, closing deals in corporate America, or getting her hot takes off on Instagram, there’s one thing that Darby Sinunu is always doing - and that’s keeping it real. In Episode #16, @222darby joins @PeopleTalkingSittingDown to talk about her transformation from being diagnosed with clinical depression to…
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In this episode of Sasquatch Tracks, the team is joined by Gary Opit, an Australian expert on the continent's indigenous fauna, and a longtime researcher of Australian cryptozoology. Opit is an environmental consultant and scientific member of the Royal Zoological Society of New South Wales for 48 years. He is also a radio broadcaster, teacher, and…
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Blaise Connor is the Co-Founder of Dript Coffee Co., a Philly based coffee company that was born in the city & inspired by the shore, operating with one mantra in mind: “A Rising Tide Lifts All Boats.” At Dript, owners Blaise and Sal strive to be that tide, one that lifts customers and improves their communities, one coffee at a time. Blaise joins …
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Will Toms is as cool as they come. As the Co-Founder and Chief Creative Officer of @recphilly, he finds himself juggling the day-to-day business and simultaneously leading the charge to keep Philly on the map in the world of art, music, and culture. He makes it look easy, but it wasn’t always that way. Sleeping in warehouses while trying to fundrai…
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In this episode, we visit with two representatives from Fountain House in New York. Our primary intent was to provide a platform to share the results of a recent research report issued by Fountain House: Beyond Treatment: How Clubhouses for People Living with Serious Mental Illness Transform Lives and Save Money. This first of its kind analysis not…
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In the summer of 1978, a strange series of events began to unfold for rural residents of northeastern Ohio. While enjoying a quiet evening at their rural home near Minerva, the Cayton family and their grandchildren witnessed a large, hairy, bipedal creature peering through their kitchen window. This creature, described as standing over 7 feet tall …
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In this installment of Sasquatch Tracks, the after opening news that focuses on tales of "swamp beasts" in rural America and also massive reptiles invading the Florida Everglades, the team is joined by John Hickenbottom, the naturalist at Ohio's Salt Fork State Park. A longtime outdoorsman whose interest in wildlife includes snakes and reptiles ind…
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In Part II of this interview with Adrian Berumen, an inmate at Calipatria State Prison, we track his journey from serving as an inmate Mental Health Assistant (MHA) at LA County Twin Towers to being sentenced to serve a 25-year to life sentence. Adrian’s story resonates with Heart Forward because his peer service, under the supervision of the LA Sh…
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Sean Kent is a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine who works in the emergency room taking care of animals in their most vulnerable moments. In this episode of People Talking Sitting Down, Sean joins to discuss the emotional toll of his profession, his love for animals, and the hardest part of working in the ER. He also shares what it’s like to be a twin,…
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In this 2 -part interview with Adrian Berumen, an inmate at Calipatria State Prison, we track his journey from serving as an inmate Mental Health Assistant (MHA) at LA County Twin Towers to being sentenced to serve a 25-year to life sentence. Adrian’s story resonates with Heart Forward because his peer service, under the supervision of the LA Sheri…
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Scott Ruth is a singer, songwriter, and producer who has recently taken his talents from Los Angeles to Nashville. While releasing his upcoming EP, he’s detailing the story of how each song was made on his new podcast, the Retrospected Podcast. We had the honor of talking about his new single, THE AFTERLIFE, on this weeks episode of People Talking …
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Dr. Deborah Pitts is a Professor of Clinical Occupational Therapy at the USC Chan Division of Occupational Science and Occupational Therapy. Her practice expertise includes community-based mental health and psychiatric rehabilitation, particularly in the permanent supportive housing (PSH) context, and the ‘lived experience’ of recovery for persons …
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Julian Dorey is The Grittiest Podcaster Of All Time. Over the last 3 years, Julian has built one of the world's biggest podcasts - all from his parents’ basement. With guests ranging from brilliant scientists to convicted felons, UFO researchers to CIA spies, he’s willing to talk to anyone, about anything. In this episode, Julian joins People Talki…
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'Tis the season... and so joining the Sasquatch Tracks team for their 2023 holiday installment of the program is Mister Sam Shearon, artist extraordinaire and dealer in knowledge of all things esoteric and hominological. Along with his impressive horror art, Sam Shearon is known for his work in the field of cryptozoology, most notably for cryptozoo…
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Jim DiOrio has seen a lot. As a former FBI Special Agent and Captain in the United States Army, he’s lived a life that many people only get to see in the movies. (Literally… the movie Captain Phillips) Whether it be uncovering financial fraud schemes, dismantling human trafficking networks, interrogating terrorists, working undercover, or protectin…
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During the summer of 1924, a team of gold seekers alleged that they were attacked by giant, ape-like creatures, measuring about 7 feet tall, who hurled boulders at them. Their story recounts an encounter with these beings in a remote area, where a member of their group shot at one of the creatures, hitting it thrice, resulting in it falling off a c…
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This is Part Two of a conversation with Leila Towry and Aimery Thomas of The Future Organization (TFO) about their recent year-long research study into Los Angeles County ARFs and RCFEs. These are commonly referred to as “board and care” homes, but the researchers make a case that the community and regulators should intentionally move away from tha…
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This is Part One of a two-part podcast interview. A long-awaited research study and report prepared by The Future Organization (TFO) helps to shine a light on an important, but fragile segment of our housing continuum for people with mental health conditions, many formerly homeless. Colloquially referred to as “board & care homes,” they are officia…
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Marc Jackson is larger than life, and at 6 foot 10, he’s larger than you too. That said, he deals with the highs and lows of life - just like everyone else. Playing in the NBA, traveling the world, and hosting Sixers Pre- and Post- Game Live are just a few of those highs, but none compare to being a father to his 3 sons. What you don’t get to see o…
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Is involuntary psychiatric treatment a solution to the intertwined crises of untreated mental illness, homelessness, and addiction? In recent years, elected officials and advocates have sought to expand the use of conservatorships, a legal tool used to require someone deemed “gravely disabled" (e.g., unable to meet their needs for food, clothing, o…
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In this second part in a special two-part installment of Sasquatch Tracks, veteran researcher Matt Pruitt returns to the podcast to discuss his new book The Phenomenal Sasquatch: Seeking the Natural Origins of a Cultural Icon, a tour-de-force of intellectual exploration in the study of the relict hominoid mystery, In the new book, Pruitt explores t…
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In this first in a two-part installment of Sasquatch Tracks, veteran researcher Matt Pruitt returns to the podcast to discuss his new book The Phenomenal Sasquatch: Seeking the Natural Origins of a Cultural Icon, a tour-de-force of intellectual exploration in the study of the relict hominoid mystery. Matt Pruitt has dedicated nearly two decades to …
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In this installment of Sasquatch Tracks, we are joined by Scott Tompkins, the creator of The Bigfoot Mapping Project, for an in-depth discussion about his mapping, data collection, and analysis of Sasquatch sightings. Scott holds a Bachelor of Science degree in GIS from the State University of New York at Cortland. With more than 14 years of GIS fi…
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Nicole Glass has a heart of gold. If you’re familiar with her work as the creator of @AffirmationsForBlackMen, you probably already know that. With over 100,000 followers across all platforms, Nicole’s powerful, thoughtful, and loving words of affirmation reach millions. What her followers might not know - is that she is every bit of positive, frie…
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Mike Giongo has the heart of a lion. Actually – in his own words, it more closely resembles that of a dog. Full of love, and always willing to both give and receive it. Growing up as a person with Autism, Mike faced unique challenges. Through self-reflection, a positive spirit, and a family that always had his back, Mike learned to appreciate his s…
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What we do each day and how we define ourselves to others is critical to our identify and sense of self worth. In this interview, we will explore the importance of identity as a foundational component of mental health recovery. For those who are involved in designing social enterprise businesses, or creating more pathways to employment for people l…
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In this installment of Sasquatch Tracks, we are joined by researcher and educator Darby Orcutt, who discusses an ambitious new project that is seeking to collect and analyze anomalous biological samples, in an effort that could ultimately help reveal the existence of relict hominoids like Sasquatch. Darby Orcutt is a faculty member at North Carolin…
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This interview with an amazing couple – Rhoda and Gochin – who have operated a small family-style board and care home in the San Fernando Valley (Los Angeles) for the last 22 years, will leave you feeling anxious at the end. And that is the objective: to stimulate not just a sense of urgency, but emergency, to protect precious beds that provide hom…
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Wow - it's been 10 months since we uploaded the final episode of Season Three! This podcast is a labor of love -- and is not something that is casually produced on the fly. So, the time is right to jump back in and resume these interviews! We are excited to provide a platform for some compelling guests and stories in the coming months. The theme re…
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Frank Jackson is a writer, speaker, and founder of The Pearl Effect, and that doesn’t even begin to scratch the surface of who he is, and what he does. After losing his mom at age 9 and his dad at 23, Frank has turned his pain into positivity, earning his Masters of Applied Positive Psychology at the University of Pennsylvania. In this episode, Fra…
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Wrestling is one of the most grueling sports in the world, and arguably requires just as much mental strength as physical strength, if not more. With over 20+ years of wrestling experience combined, Aston and Mike joined @PeopleTalkingSittingDown to share lessons they've learned from a life on the mat. In this episode, we discuss how the mentality …
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In this installment of Sasquatch Tracks, the team looks at encounters with relict hominoids in North America reported by U.S. military personnel. Among reports involving encounters with alleged humanlike primates that remain currently unacknowledged by science, a striking number have been reported by military personnel while in the line of duty. In…
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Dan Pulzello is a stand-up comedian, co-host of the Culture Clash comedy podcast, and creator of the viral series, Europe vs. America. Growing up, Dan used his innate ability to make people laugh as a coping strategy for an undiagnosed anxiety disorder. Much like his comedy, he's continued to develop over the years and joined People Talking Sitting…
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In this installment of Sasquatch Tracks, we catch up with primatologist Esteban Sarmiento, an expert in hominid evolution and researcher renowned for his interest in the speculative side of vertebrate zoology, particularly when it comes to Sasquatch. Sarmiento is a primatologist and vertebrate zoologist whose main area of focus involves the skeleto…
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MEET TYLER: Tyler is my friend, former co-worker, and someone who has helped me just by being him. Whether it’s catching waves, swimming laps, taking care of clients, or 1-on-1 conversations, Tyler puts his all into everything he does. It was no surprise when I found out that he has faced hurdles in life that many people don’t get through. After lo…
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A NOTE FROM THE HOST: Hi everyone, As mentioned in the introduction, throughout this episode we discuss topics and stories that may be difficult to listen to, especially for those who are on a healing journey of their own. These topics include drug abuse, alcohol use disorder, eating disorders, and sexual trauma. We are not professionals, therapist…
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In this installment of Sasquatch Tracks, the team is joined by Lailani Upham and Carrie Lynn Bear Chief, Blackfeet Tribe members and creators of the Pikuni Bigfoot Storytelling Project. Lailani Upham is a member of the Blackfeet Nation, and is president and lead creative of Iron Shield Creative. A journalist by trade, she loves adventure and explor…
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A NOTE FROM THE HOST: Hi everyone, My name is Christopher Antich, and if you're reading this, I wish I could look you in the eye and tell you how much it means to me that you're choosing to spend your time giving the People Talking Sitting Down podcast a listen. Ever since I was a kid, I've been constantly asking myself the question "why?" Why am I…
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In this installment of Sasquatch Tracks, the team is joined by anthropologist and Sasquatch researcher Kathy Strain, author of the book, Giants, Cannibals & Monsters: Bigfoot in Native Culture. Kathy Strain is the Heritage Resource and Tribal Relations Programs Manager for the Stanislaus National Forest in Sonora, California. She has a M.A. in Anth…
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In this installment of Sasquatch Tracks, the team is joined by Australian researcher Buck Buckingham, who shares his knowledge about Australian Yowies, the purported relict hominoid that occupies the remote wilds of the Land Down Under. Buckingham is a member of the group Australian Yowie Research, and has been hooked on Yowie studies ever since he…
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Joining the team for this installment of Sasquatch Tracks is Gregory Forth, a retired professor of anthropology at the University of Alberta. He earned his PhD from the University of Oxford in 1980. Beginning in 1986, Forth was a professor at the University of Alberta for over thirty years. Forth is a fellow of the Royal Society of Canada, and is a…
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As the team returns from a seasonal hiatus to officially kick off 2023, we are joined by Nathaniel Bronis, a Sasquatch researcher from Michigan's lower peninsula who currently resides in Idaho, and previously spent time in Washington. An avid outdoorsman, he has been collecting reports and conducting field research into the relict hominoid mystery …
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In this edition of Sasquatch Tracks, the team is joined by Kentucky researcher Jeff Waldridge, who in addition to being an expert in the study of Sasquatch, is also one of the team members behind the annual CryptidCon event in his home state. Jeff Waldridge is a researcher of Sasquatch with an interest in cryptozoological mysteries and the unexplai…
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In this Halloween installment of Sasquatch Tracks, we are joined by Mister Sam Shearon, who in addition to being renowned for his unique cryptozoological artwork, presents an impressive knowledge of all-things Sasquatch, along with an assorted conversation about eerie cryptids in keeping with the season. Along with his impressive horror art, Sam Sh…
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In this installment of Sasquatch Tracks, the team is joined by researcher Aleksandar Petakov for a discussion about his wide-ranging cryptozoological interests. Aleksandar Petakov was born in 1993 during the last year of Apartheid in South Africa to parents that fled civil war in the former Yugoslavia. He grew up in the United States & has always b…
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Mark Gale’s credentials for this interview are unparalleled. He serves as the Criminal Justice Chair of NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness) Greater Los Angeles County. Mark also represents NAMI on the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Criminal Justice Mental Health Advisory Board, serves as a member of the Permanent Steering Committee o…
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In this installment of Sasquatch Tracks, the team catches up on the subject of Indigenous American beliefs about Sasquatch, as discussed in a recent BBC Travel feature, as well as sightings reports and emails from our listeners. We are then joined by filmmaker and researcher Tate Hieronymus, producer of the forthcoming four-part series “A Search fo…
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In this episode of Sasquatch Tracks, after the team goes over recent news related to the study of relict hominoids, we shift our attention over to reports from our listeners, which includes several sightings and intriguing accounts that may involve observations of an unrecognized species of primate in North America. Beginning with emails covering a…
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In this installment of Sasquatch Tracks, after a bit of herpetological banter near the beginning of the episode, the team is joined by researcher Ken Gerhard, the author of several books including The Essential Guide to Bigfoot. Ken Gerhard is a widely recognized cryptozoologist and field investigator for The Centre for Fortean Zoology as well as a…
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