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Recreation Elevated

Division of Outdoor Recreation

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A podcast brought to you by the Division of Outdoor Recreation. Listen and learn about what goes on behind the scenes to create the vast and varied recreational opportunities we enjoy here in Utah.
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Dark Starts Backcountry Splitboard Podcast

Maxwell Morrill & Darrin Milne

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Join your hosts Maxwell & Darrin as they talk with splitboarding and backcountry industry pros, gear manufacturers, and certified mountain guides. No matter how much experience you have in the backcountry, you'll learn everything there is to know along with us to take your tours and shredding to the next level. New episodes drop weekly - subscribe to get notifications when new episodes are Dropping.
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On this episode, Bob chats with Hector Estevez, the CEO of Centum Research and Technology. Calling from his company's headquarters in Spain, he and Bob talk about the "Lifeseeker" technology and devices that have been used in Europe and are now being introduced in the United States. The devices, which can locate a missing hiker in minutes, work alo…
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On this week's podcast, Bob goes solo as he talks about his trip hiking and photographing waterfalls in North Carolina. He discusses the scenery, the trails and the people he's encountered. Also, a short discussion on when you should go with a tour group and when you should make your own arrangements. Also, Colorado Springs E-bike survey and El Pas…
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On this week's podcast, Bob and co-host Kevin discuss big changes coming to the podcast, and ask the listeners to voice their thoughts on the changes. Also, water safety and Kevin went to the Outdoor Magazine event in Denver Please consider becoming a patron of this podcast! Visit: https://www.patreon.com/hikingbob for more information Hiking Bob w…
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On this week's podcast, Bob's guest us author and adventurer Kevin Fedarko. They talk about his newly released book "A Walk in the Park: The True Story of a Spectacular Misadventure in the Grand Canyon". The book details his and photographer Pete McBride's attempt to hike the entire length of the canyon, from east to west. Also, they discuss how ov…
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On this week's podcast, Bob sits down for a chat with Colorado Springs' Richard Skorman. Skorman is a a former city councilor, a small business owner, outdoor advocate, civic leader and water conservation activist. They talk about his newest initiative of getting volunteers to help clean up trash in sensitive areas and neighborhoods, the scarcity o…
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On this week's podcast, Bob provides an update on the shuttle and reservation system on Pikes Peak. Also, interesting facts around the proposed Fox Run Park Nature Center, a new feature on the COTREX app and website, and Bob is selling one of his cameras. Pikes Peak season/annual passes: https://tinyurl.com/tz94b427 COTREX wildfire alerts: https://…
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On this week's podcast, Bob and Kevin discuss master plans projects underway for Colorado Springs' Fishers Canyon Open Space and El Paso County's Jones Park. Also, a discussion about timed-entry reservation requirement for Pikes Peak, and a new shuttle system that leaves out recreational users. Fishers Canyon Master Plan: https://tinyurl.com/3ndbv8…
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On this week's podcast, Bob takes a short hike while interviewing Sheila Doherty a/k/a "Hiking Unlimited" on social media. An expert based in Phoenix, she gives advice on hiking in the desert Southwest, chats with Bob about her favorite trips and hikes, and also her future plans. Along on the hike was Sheila's friend, Michelle, a new hiker who was …
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On this week's podcast, Bob is joined by co-host Kevin "Wild" Westendorf and they catch up on what Kevin has been doing since he was last on the show. They also discuss people behaving badly on trails, a rescue due to people being woefully underprepared, and if you want to hike to the popular Hanging Lake, you will need to prepare carefully and far…
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On this week's podcast, Bob interviews Jolie NeSmith, the Executive Director of the Rocky Mountain Field Institute (RMFI). They talk about her first year at the helm, including challenges and accomplishments, and then move on to discuss the 2024 work season. The review the projects RMFI will be working on, with an update on the multi-year Devils Pl…
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Bob chats with Luis Benitez, the author of "Higher Ground: How The Outdoor Recreation Industry Can Save The World". The first head of Colorado's Outdoor Recreation Industry Office, and a leader in the outdoor recreation industry, he talks with Bob about the need to change how outdoor recreation in the United States is funded and managed, and how he…
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This week's podcast is all about feet and how to take care of them. Bob is joined by frequent guest Physical Therapist and "Healthy Hiker" Alicia Filley, for an enlightening talk about feet. From common injuries, to how to decipher pain, to socks and shoes, they cover almost anything you'd want to know about feet and hiking. The Healthy Hiker websi…
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On this week's podcast, Bob and Kevin discuss trail projects at two of Colorado Springs' most popular parks; one master plan is being finalized while another is starting. Also Cheyenne Mountain State Park has new Terrain Hoppers for visitors with accessiblity issues; will you able to see the April solar eclipse from Colorado? And finally, in the af…
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On this week's podcast, Bob and co-host Wild Westendorf discuss the latest developments with the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission. Also, winter driving, choosing the right hiking footwear and Kevin has another medical scare. Please consider becoming a patron of this podcast! Visit: https://www.patreon.com/hikingbob for more information Hiking…
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On this week's podcast, Bob and Kevin talk about Daylight Saving Time, the hubbub over some appointments to the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission, and why are some hikers and cyclists harrassing construction workers? Please consider becoming a patron of this podcast! Visit: https://www.patreon.com/hikingbob for more information Hiking Bob webs…
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On this week's podcast, Bob flies solo! He discusses his next major "bucket list" trip, hiking in the desert, where are the best behaved hikers and cyclists. Also, the master plan process is ending for one Colorado Springs park and starting for another one, controversy with the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission and more. Fishers Canyon Master …
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More often than not, UAC forecaster Craig Gordon heads into the backcountry alone. He loves it. the solitude. Moving at his own pace. Spending as much time as he wants, as much time as it takes to understand the snowpack. He also understands the risks involved in touring alone. Craig joins us to talk through two of his most memorable solo backcount…
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On this week's podcast, Bob talks with Dr. Jason Herbert, the Tribal Liaison with the Pike-San Isabel National Forests and Cimarron and Comanche National Grasslands (PSICC). Dr. Herbert, the first person to hold this position with the PSICC, talks about his previous experiences working with Native American tribes in the southern U.S. prior to worki…
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This week's podcast goes back out into the field, as Bob tries out cross-country skiing for the first time. Michael Brothers from the Woodmoor Nordic Cross-Country skiing center gives Bob a quick lesson on how to ski and afterwards, they talk about how well Bob did - or didn't - do. They also discuss the history of the skiing center, and what is av…
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Co-host Kevin returns for this week's podcast, and he and Bob catch up on recent events. They also discuss winter hiking etiquette, and avalanche danger, mountain lion management, a new El Paso County nature center, movie suggestions and more. CPW SE Region Mountain Lion Management meetings: http://tinyurl.com/mr3wbfpc CAIC: https://avalanche.state…
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If there's one thing we can all agree on, it's snow. In his 20-plus years as a UAC forecaster for the Logan region, Toby Weed has seen snow's uniting effects. The Logan mountains boast an abundance of terrain, and for years, motorized and non-motorized users battled for the best slopes. But, Weed says, these days, things have changed. He joins us t…
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On this week's podcast, Bob chats with El Paso County Parks Department Director Todd Marts. They discuss the accomplishments of the department in 2023, and what's ahead for 2024 and beyond. Items discussed include the success of the departments "Trailability" program, Paint Mines Park, the proposed Fox Run Park Nature Center, how the parks are reco…
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There isn’t any hard data on this, but it seems safe to say that Paige Pagnucco is one of very few people who are both full-time avalanche forecasters and MBAs. In fact, she may well be a group of one. Pagnucco, who forecasts for the Logan region, says that, while it may not seem like it at first, there’s actually some significant overlap between b…
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On this week's podcast, Bob chats with Colorado Springs Parks, Recreation and Cultural Services Department Director Britt Haley. They discuss the signifcant accomplishments of the department in 2023, and what's ahead for 2024, including e-bikes, Blodgett and Fishers Canyon master plans, and more. Please consider becoming a patron of this podcast! V…
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On this week's podcast, Bob interviews Ashlee Sack from Fremont Adventure Recreation (FAR), based in Canon City, CO. The discuss the short history of FAR, and their work to build new trails in the Canon City area, and also build awareness of the outdoor recreation opportunities in the Fremont County. FAR website: http://www.joinfar.org/ Please cons…
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On this week's podcast, Bob and co-host Kevin talk about why it was more than 20 degrees warmer 4,000' higher in elevation; new trail map for the Town of Green Mountain Falls; and how is it possible to violate someone's "air space" while hiking (someone is literally making a Federal case out of it). "air space" amicus brief: https://bitly.ws/39U3J …
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On this week's podcast, Bob and co-host Kevin discuss winter hiking, including how to prepare and where to go. Also, why now is the time to buy gear for next winter, the podcast's return to the Studio 809 group, why a road in a popular local park is closed, how many miles Bob hikes in 2023 and much more. Please consider becoming a patron of this po…
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The La Sal Mountains of southeastern Utah erupt out of the surrounding red rock desert. They sport steep slopes and big alpine lines that just beg to be skied. But this is expert terrain, says UAC forecaster Eric Trenbeath. It’s highly avalanche prone, especially in the heart of winter, when the coverage is thin. Trenbeath is based in Moab, and he’…
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It's the New Year, and Bob and Kevin look back at 2023 and forward to 2024. What did they do (or didn't do) last year, and what is ahead for them this year? Please consider becoming a patron of this podcast! Visit: https://www.patreon.com/hikingbob for more information Hiking Bob website: https://www.HikingBob.com Wild Westendorf website: https://w…
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After a long break while Bob was doing interviews, Kevin returns to the podcast. He and Bob discuss the holidays, winter gear and when is the best time to buy, donating to the Give Campaign and other organizations, how to recycle your Christmas tree, first day hikes, and more. Give campaign: https://givepikespeak.org/ Care and Share: https://carean…
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Greg Gagne is a self-described conservative backcountry skier. His greatest satisfaction comes from putting in the work before entering avalanche terrain. He wants to know, as well as he possibly can, that the snow he’s traveling on and around is stable. Greg joins us to explore how we grow our knowledge and experience in avalanche terrain, and we …
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In the last of a series with groups particpating in the 2023 Give Pikes Peak campaign, Bob talks with Heather Graves, the Executive Director of the Catamount Institute They discuss the work the Catamount Institute does to introduce school age children to the outdoors, and how the can also prepare them for outdoor-related careers. They discuss how t…
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It's time for the annual Give Pikes Peak campaign, and on this week's episode, Bob talks with Teri Peisner from the Friends of Monument Valley Park They discuss the work the group has done over the years to protect and restore the many old stone structures in Monument Valley Park, many of which go back to Colorado Springs' founder, General Palmer. …
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It's time for the annual Give Pikes Peak campaign, and on this week's episode, Bob talks with Calla Balliett from the Rocky Mountain Field Institute (RMFI) They talk about the work RMFI does on trails and in parks in the Pikes Peak region and how support during the Give campaign can help them continue their work. Give campaign: https://givepikespea…
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UAC forecaster Nikki Champion knows first-hand the challenge of charting a career path in snow and avalanche science. She joins us to talk about how having role models and mentors that looked like her helped her find her way. We also talk about her recent ISSW paper evaluating the accuracy of the avalanche center’s forecasts in the last few years.…
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It's time for the annual Give Pikes Peak campaign, and on this week's episode, Bob talks with Kristie Nackord from the Palmer Land Conservancy. They talk about what the Palmer Land Conservancy does to secure land for not only recreation, but also for farming and ranching in the southern Colorado, and how support during the Give campaign can help th…
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On this week's podcast, Bob and Kevin talk about who they are thankful for in their pursuit of outdoor recreation. Also, taking care of yourself and others, mentally and physically, and more. Please consider becoming a patron of this podcast! Visit: https://www.patreon.com/hikingbob for more information Hiking Bob website: https://www.HikingBob.com…
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On this week's podcast: Wild Westendorf talks about an acute health scare he had over the weekend, and discuss taking better care of ourselves. Also, Bob talks about a movie that does a great job telling the story of a real-life incident. They also talk about the Give Pikes Peak campaign, and what plans they have made for next year. Give campaign: …
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This season, something a little different on the podcast. We want you to get to know the UAC forecasters, so, Drew is handing over the host's mic to producer Benjamin Bombard, and he'll be the one interviewing the crew. Drew's first at bat. He joins us to talk about how relaying valuable information through stories—rather than "just the facts, ma'a…
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It's time for the annual Give Pikes Peak campaign, and on this week's episode, Bob talks with Trails and Open Spaces Coalition (TOSC) executive director Susan Davies. They talk about what TOSC accomplished with the funds raised during last years Give campaign, and what they hope to do in 2024 with funds raised this year. Also, they discuss what wil…
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On this week's podcast, Bob spends a day riding along with a U.S. Forest Service Law Enforcement Officer in the Pikes Peak Ranger District in Colorado's Pike National Forest. Find out what it's like to be responsible for protecting one of our countries most valuable resources. Please consider becoming a patron of this podcast! Visit: https://www.pa…
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On this week's podcast, Bob announces that this podcast has been named the "Best Podcast for 2023". Find out by whom, and how it decided... Also, the Colorado Springs "Discover COS" calendar for 2024 has been released; the current status of the Blodgett Open Space Master Plan and the Fox Run Park Nature Center; Bob's recent trip to the east coast, …
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After sampling a few of Utah's greatest endurance events, races and routes this summer, Caroline shares stories of her own as well as many others who have learned that Utah is the place to test your limits! With races like LOTOJA, the Wasatch 100 and Crusher in the Tushars, Utah is well equipped to provide unique experiences for those wishing to pu…
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On this week's podcast, Bob re-visits Fishers Peak State Park with park manager Crystal Dreiling. They hike the much anticpated trail to the summit of the peak, and along the way discuss the trail itself, including the distance and difficulty future users can expect. Also, the future plans for the park. https://cpw.state.co.us/placestogo/Parks/Fish…
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This week, we're visited again by Angie Davis, the Executive Director of the Teller County (CO) Regional Animal Shelter. We discuss pets that need the human equivilent of service dogs, and also for humans, what is the difference between a service and a support animal. Also, some fun fund-raising this month for TCRAS. TCRAS website: https://www.tcra…
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On this week's podcast, Bob and Kevin discuss the draft of the Colorado Springs City budget and how it affects the parks department. Also, Colorado Parks and Wildlife is being sued over access to some public lands. And finally, how the fall colors are looking in Colorado. Colorado Springs Budget: https://tinyurl.com/3vzr65ra CPW being sued: https:/…
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On this week's podcast: An update on where to see fall colors in Colorado this weekend; Bob talks about his recent trip to Salida, Colorado, and hiking part of the Continental Divide Trail; more on Colorado Springs 2024 city budget; plans for next year? Colorado Springs City Council: https://tinyurl.com/43nkxvcd Please consider becoming a patron of…
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On this week's podcast, Bob and co-host Kevin discuss a moose attack and an unfounded rumor that followed it; public support is needed to make sure the Colorado Springs Parks Department doesn't suffer disproportionate funding cuts next year; a Colorado Sun editorial about outdoor recreation was riddled with errors. Is the writer selfish? And finall…
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Jennifer Peterson, the "Partnership Coordinator" with the U.S. Forest Service's Pike-San Isabel National Forests and Cimarron and Comanche National Grasslands (PSICC) is Bob's guest. Formerly an executive director for a non-profit, she describes what the Partnership Coordinator does, and how that integrates with non-profit, for-profit and other gov…
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On this week;s podcast, Bob and co-host Kevin discuss hiking over Labor Day weekend; bears starting to eat before hibernating; what happened to three missing hikers on the Pacific Crest Trail. Trail of the Lost: https://bit.ly/3LbX8h8 CPW Bear Aware info: https://bit.ly/3syZEr1 Fall foliage map: https://bit.ly/3ErLrPn Please consider becoming a pat…
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