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But That's Another Story

Will Schwalbe / Macmillan

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Can one story change the course of your life? Will Schwalbe, bestselling author of The End of Your Life Book Club and Books for Living, invites notable guests to tell stories of the books — and the moments — that changed them.
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Memoirist Jennifer Finney Boylan on J. R. R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings, transitioning, and man’s best friend. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out Charlotte’s Web by E.B. White, Lord of the Rings by J. R. R. Tolkien, and Good Boy by Jennifer Finney Boylan. Also consider our staff pick’s: Matilda by Roald Dahl,…
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Writer Emily Gould on Eileen Myles’s Chelsea Girls, riot grrrl culture, and turning her observations inward. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out The Adventures of Tintin graphic novel series created by Hergé, the Babysitter’s Club series by Ann M. Martin, the Goosebumps series by R. L. Stine, and Inferno by Eileen …
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National Book Award finalist Min Jin Lee on George Eliot's Middlemarch, imposter syndrome, and her lifelong obsession with wisdom. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out Giovanni's Room by James Baldwin, War and Peace and Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy, Main Street by Sinclair Lewis, Middlemarch by George Eliot, and Pac…
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Novelist Rufi Thorpe on Jane Smiley’s Private Life, balancing motherhood with artistry, and a brush with mortality. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out Anne of Green Gables Lucy Maud Montgomery, The Chocolate War and We All Fall Down by Robert Cormier and Private Life by Jane Smiley. Be sure to check out Rufi’s boo…
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Novelist Melissa Rivero on Elie Wiesel’s Night, questioning God, and growing up undocumented in America. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out Miss Nelson is Missing by Harry Allard, Dreaming in Cuban by Cristina Garcia, Death in the Andes by Mario Vargas Llosa and the Pigeon series by Mo Willems. Be sure to check ou…
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New York Times food writer Melissa Clark on Miguel de Cervantes’ Don Quixote, Jewish Brooklyn, and eating her way through literature. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out the Little House on the Prairie series by Laura Ingalls Wilder, The Clan of the Cave Bear by Jean M. Auel and Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes. …
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Scholar and podcaster Simran Jeet Singh on Malcolm X and Alex Haley’s The Autobiography of Malcolm X, Edward Said’s Orientalism, and imposter syndrome to the max. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out The Autobiography of Malcolm X by Malcolm X with Alex Haley and Orientalism by Edward Said. To learn more about Simra…
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Writer André Aciman on Emily Brontë’s Wuthering Heights, bygone eras and luxurious summer days spent reading. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out Enid Blyton’s The Famous Five series and The Hardy Boys books. Stay in the know about the latest Macmillan news by reading our free newsletter here. Learn more about your…
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If you're enjoying But That's Another Story, there's another storytelling podcast we think you'll really like. The following is an episode of Storybound, a new podcast from Lit Hub and The Podglomerate. In it, Mitch Albom reads an excerpt from his new book Finding Chika. Musical compositions by Maiah Wynne & Aliephant. To hear more episodes of Stor…
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Writer Gretchen Rubin on Virginia Woolf’s A Writer’s Diary, finding joy and children’s literature. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out E.B. White’s Charlotte’s Web and Laura Ingalls Wilder’s Little House on the Prairie series. Also look for Virginia Woolf’s works such as The Waves, Mrs. Dalloway, To the Lighthouse,…
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Businesswoman and philanthropist Melinda Gates on James Baraz's Awakening Joy, spirituality, and the books that come into our lives later -- and put everything into perspective. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out Ghost Wall by Sarah Moss, The Moment of Lift by Melinda Gates, Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret by…
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Writer Michael Frank on Pema Chodron’s When Things Fall Apart, infertility and waiting. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out Pema Chodron’s When Things Fall Apart. Also look for Michael Frank’s The Mighty Franks and What is Missing? Stay in the know about the latest Macmillan news by reading our free newsletter here…
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Thought provocateur Michael Eric Dyson on James Baldwin’s The Fire Next Time, fictionalizing race and immersing himself in all forms of learning. To learn more about the books, poems and lyrics we discussed in this episode, check out Richard Henry Dana Jr.’s Two Years Before the Mast, Thomas Gray’s poem Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard, John P…
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Author and environmental activist Terry Tempest Williams on W.S. Merwin’s poem The Last One, leaving Mormonism and writing from pain. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out Michael DiGiorgio and Roger Tory Peterson’s Peterson Field Guide to Birds of Western North America, Kafka’s Metamorphosis, Marie Louise Von Franz’…
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TV writer Gary Janetti on Charles Dickens's David Copperfield, Armistead Maupin's Tales of the City, and writing his own script. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out Randy Shilts's And the Band Played On:: Politics, People, and the AIDS Epidemic and Michael Cunningham’s The Hours. You can read Macmillan's newsletter…
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Author and playwright Jessica Hagedorn on Roberto Bolaño’s 2666, taking risks and the place of the writer in America. To learn more about some of the books we discussed in this episode, check out Grimms' Fairy Tales by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm, The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger and iovanni’s Room by James Baldwin. Also see A Hundred Years of S…
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This week, we're revisiting our conversation with Last Week Tonight writer Josh Gondelman, who just released his new memoir, Nice Try. He talks David Foster Wallace's Infinite Jest, his comedy career, and the value of goodness over niceness. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinge…
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Director and producer Lisa Cortes on Salman Rushdie’s Midnight’s Children, cultural consciousness and finding her voice through different mediums. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out Dr. Suess’s One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish, Gabriel García Márquez’s One Hundred Years of Solitude, Gloria Naylor’s The Wome…
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Writer Monique Truong on Louisa May Alcott’s Little Women, food in literature, and seeing stories from a different angle. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out Little House on the Prairie by Laura Ingalls Wilder, Lafcadio Hearn’s Creole Cookbook by Lafcadio Hearn and Little Women by Louisa May Alcott. Learn more abou…
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Editor of The New York Times Book Review Pamela Paul on Thalia Zepatos's A Journey of One's Own, travel, and nonlinear life paths. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out Island of the Blue Dolphins by Scott O'Dell, A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle, Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy and A Journey of One's Own by Thali…
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Playwright and podcaster Janielle Kastner on C.S. Lewis's The Silver Chair, a winter literature party for the books and finding her meaningful narrative resolution. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out The Boxcar Children series by Gertrude Chandler Warner, The Babysitters Club series by Ann M. Martin, as well as Th…
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Writer Dani Shapiro on Joan Didion's The Year of Magical Thinking, growing up as an Orthodox Jew and writing from trauma. To learn more about the books we discussed in this episode, check out Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret by Judy Blume, the Book of Ruth from the Hebrew Bible, The Year of Magical Thinking by Joan Didion and Inheritance by Dan…
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Novelist Cherise Wolas on John Berger's Portraits, visiting museums, and finding her way back to writing. You can find transcripts of this episode and past ones on LitHub. Check out the podcast Case Closed, and the brand-new audiobook The Last Book Party from Macmillan Audio. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…
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We're back at the Book Expo America for a live panel filled with candid conversation. Will sits down with authors Aarti Shahani, Stephen Chbosky and Nicole Dennis-Benn to discuss a book that changed their lives, as well as their own works. For more great stories from Macmillan Podcasts, subscribe to our newsletter at http://bit.ly/mpnnewsletter. --…
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Writer and activist Larry Kramer on D.H. Lawrence's Women in Love, the merits of rereading, and the best advice he's ever had. To learn more about the books we've mentioned in this week's episode, check out The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, Women in Love by D.H. Lawrence, and The Normal Heart and The American People by Larry Kramer. A …
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