BerlinsideOut, the podcast that takes an expert look at international politics from Berlin. Hosted by Dr. Benjamin Tallis, Senior Research Fellow and Head of the Action Group Zeitenwende at the German Council on Foreign Relations (DGAP), and Aaron Gasch Burnett, a journalist specialising in German politics, we look at how Germany sees the world and the world sees Germany.
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Interviews and discussions linked to the Duck of Minerva blog (https://duckofminerva.com)
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Out of Order is a German Marshall Fund podcast about how our world was, is, and will be ordered. From the way the pandemic is shaping geopolitics; to the dark side of tech for democracy; to the political movements, elections and uprisings changing global governance; the podcast brings together international experts from inside and outside of GMF to help us understand our disordered world. In addition to Out of Order episodes, GMF also produces topical mini-series including Post-Pandemic Orde ...
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22 – A Strategic Deficit with German Characteristics: Why Berlin Struggles to Move Beyond the Zeitenwende
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In season two’s third episode, Ben and Aaron are joined by grand strategy expert Maximilian Terhalle, as well as the DGAP’s own Aylin Matlé and Jacob Ross, to discuss why Germany must move on from its reactive Zeitenwende to a more proactive grand strategy – which marshals all of its resources together for strategic goals. They tackle questions lik…
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24 – Chip War: Mastering Tech, Geopolitics & the China Challenge
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Chris Miller, author of the bestselling and highly-awarded “Chip War: The Fight for the World’s Most Critical Technology”, sits down with Ben and Aaron to chat about his book, and how the semiconductor industry is redrawing the current map of geopolitical risk – from the Taiwan Strait to Europe and the US. Miller also talks about how corresponding …
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23 – Germany’s Wealth, Power – and Their Limits: Economic Miracles, Imperialist Hangovers, and the "End of History"
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In the fourth episode of BerlinsideOut season two, Ben and Aaron sit down with Albrecht Ritschl, a renowned German economic historian, to trace the historical origins of Germany’s economic model – and how its current emphasis on geoeconomics and free riding on security has influenced German foreign policy towards Russia, Ukraine, and wider Europe. …
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21 – "Our Enemies Will Vanish" – Does the West Still Underestimate Ukraine and Overestimate Russia?
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In the second episode of BerlinsideOut season two, Ben and Aaron sit down with Yaroslav Trofimov, the Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent for the Wall Street Journal and author of “Our Enemies Will Vanish: The Russian Invasion and Ukraine’s War of Independence”. Guests: Yaroslav Trofimov, Chief Foreigns Affairs Correspondent, The Wall Street Journa…
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20 – Germany’s Failing Zeitenwende – And What to Do About It
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In BerlinsideOut’s second season premiere, Ben and Aaron dive into Germany’s recent foreign policy problems – driven by a Chancellery whose threat assessment of Russia is increasingly jeopardising European security. Together with parliamentarians Anton Hofreiter and Thomas Erndl, as well as regular panellists Minna Ålander and Britta Jacob, Berlins…
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19 – MunichsideOut Live From the PSC: Neo-Idealism – Winning the Systemic Competition Starts in Ukraine
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In this special episode of BerlinsideOut, Ben and Aaron take questions live at the 2024 Pirate Security Conference in Munich. They chat about how Germany needs to change its strategy to have a will to win in the systemic struggle between democracies and authoritarian regimes – and why that starts in Ukraine. They also chat about and take questions …
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19 – MunichsideOut: The Munich Security Conference and Germany’s Foreign Policy Agenda
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BerlinsideOut, the podcast that takes an expert look at international politics from Berlin (and Munich!). Hosted by Dr. Benjamin Tallis, Senior Research Fellow and Head of the Action Group Zeitenwende at the German Council on Foreign Relations (DGAP), and Aaron Gasch Burnett, a journalist specialising in German politics, we look at how Germany sees…
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18 – Freedom is a Duty – Why Germany Needs to Go From Zeitenwende to Grand Strategy
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In BerlinsideOut’s first season finale, Ben and Aaron identify key themes and talk through their highlights from the last few months focusing on how Germany’s Zeitenwende has progressed - or not - in that time, how allies see that, and why Germany needs a real grand strategy. We also have a look back at some of the most memorable lines and lessons …
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17 – Germany and the US: Here, Ukraine Matters – Discussion with Alexander Vindman [Part 2]
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In this second of a two-part series, Ben and Aaron speak with Alexander Vindman – the man who literally wrote the book on Trump – Here, Right Matters – detailing his decision to report the phone call between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelenskyy, resulting in Trump’s impeachment. Alexander speaks about the possibility of a second Trump presidency, b…
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17 – Germany and the US: Common Strategic Deficit & Mutually-Assured Dysfunction [Part 1]
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In the penultimate week of BerlinsideOut’s first season, Ben and Aaron take a look at the transatlantic relationship’s current strategic deficit, what’s in store for the relationship during either a Trump or a Biden win in 2024, and the China challenge that will come increasingly into view over the next few years. With four expert guests they discu…
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16 – Canada and Germany: Finding Ways to Take Strategic Responsibility [Part 2]
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In this two-part series, BerlinsideOut talks about Germany’s relationship with Aaron’s (other) home country of Canada, its potential role in helping to provide Germany and the rest of the democratic team with critical resources, whether both countries are underpricing Russian and Chinese threats, and how to leverage another transatlantic relationsh…
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16 – Canada and Germany: From Free-Riding Laggards to Re-engaged Teammates? [Part 1]
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In this two-part series, BerlinsideOut talks about Germany’s relationship with Aaron’s (other) home country of Canada, its potential role in helping to provide Germany and the rest of the democratic team with critical resources, whether both countries are underpricing Russian and Chinese threats, and how to leverage another transatlantic relationsh…
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15 – Germany and UK: Military Cooperation – Different Roles, Common Needs. [Part 2]
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In this second of a two-part series, Ben and Aaron look at Germany’s relationship with Ben’s native UK – and how Russia’s war against Ukraine has necessitated a move-on from the tension around Brexit to new ways of cooperating – particularly on security issues. Together with retired Air Marshal Edward Stringer Ben and Aaron look at the respective c…
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15 – Germany and UK: Friends in Need Must Start Playing as Teammates [Part 1]
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In this first of a two-part series, Ben and Aaron look at Germany’s relationship with Ben’s native UK – and how Russia’s war against Ukraine has necessitated a move-on from the tension around Brexit to new ways of cooperating – particularly on security issues. They look at how the two countries should prepare for a possible Trump presidency in the …
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12 – Why Ukraine Must Win – and Germany Must Finish Its Zeitenwende [Part 2]
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In the second part of a special on Ukraine (and bumper Christmas episode) BerlinsideOut looks at current German strategy for European Security and why it needs to both finish its Zeitenwende and think bigger. Ben provides an update from Vilnius and, together with Aaron, they address the recent decision on Ukraine’s EU Accession talks and the keynot…
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14 – Leading from the Front: Germany and France Struggle to Rise to the Task [Part 2]
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In this second of a two-part series, Ben and Aaron take a look at how the French “Bratislava Agenda” of rapprochement with CEE and thus rebalancing European leadership complements – or clashes with – Germany's Zeitenwende, its supposed sea change in foreign and security policy. We talk support for Ukraine, how Germany and France should prepare for …
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14 – Germany and France: Fixing Europe’s Sputtering Engine [Part 1]
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In this first of a two-part series, Ben and Aaron take a look at the current dysfunction in what German foreign policy elites often refer to as the country’s most important bilateral relationship – and the “motor” through which Europe either moves or stalls. Guests Jacob Ross and Sylvie Kauffmann talk about the history of the relationship – and how…
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13 – Germany and Poland: From Historical Foes to Uneasy Friends [Part 2]
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In the second episode looking at Germany’s tough, but crucial relationship with Poland, Ben and Aaron are joined by former German Ambassador to Poland and author of Feinde, Fremde, Freunde (“Foes, Strangers, Friends”) – a book about Germany’s current relationship with Poland following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine – to discuss the opportunities for …
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13 – Germany and Poland: New Opportunities, Old Challenges [Part 1]
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For the first part of a two-part special, Ben and Aaron get into a particularly important, but historically difficult and tense relationship – the one that Germany has with its largest eastern neighbour in Poland. Recent elections have seen a new Polish coalition gain the numbers to oust the populist Law & Justice Party from power in Warsaw, leavin…
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12 – Why Ukraine Must Win – and What Germany Needs to Do [Part 1]
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In a very special BerlinsideOut, Ben and Aaron are joined by HE Olha Stefanishyna, Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine for European and Euro-Atlantic Integration directly after her keynote speech at the DGAP on 24/11/2023 - in which she outlined not only why Ukraine must win, but also why EU and NATO accession would benefit all Europeans, including Ge…
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11 – Northern Outlooks: New Germany-scepticism in the Nordics?
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Ben and Aaron are joined in introducing this episode by Minna Ålander, as well as panelists Anna Wieslander, Tuomas Iso-Markku, and Kim Olsen – to talk about Germany’s relationship with the Nordic countries of Finland, Sweden, Denmark, and Norway. From the EU’s northern enlargement to the euro crisis, Germany’s Nordic partners in the EU had often l…
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10 – Germany and the Baltic States: Imperial Histories, New Horizons [Part 2]
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In the second part of this two-part special, Ben and Aaron are joined by Professor Ulrike von Hirschhausen for an extended discussion of the ties that bind the Baltic States and Germany and the opportunities that new ways of seeing each other offer for greater mutual understanding. Looking beyond the state to the movements of people, goods and idea…
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10 – Germany and the Baltic States: Being Ready to Die for Freedom [Part 1]
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For the first part of a two-part special, Ben and Aaron are joined this week by an all-star panel of Baltic politicians, including Marko Mihkelson and Žygimantas Pavilionis – who chair the Foreign Affairs Committees in Estonian and Lithuanian Parliament, respectively – along with Artis Pabriks, a former Foreign, Defense, and Deputy Prime Minister o…
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6b Bonus – Germany’s China Risks: Geoeconomics vs Geopolitics?
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In this bonus episode, we speak with DGAP CEO Dr. Guntram Wolff and Natixis Chief Economist Dr. Alicia Garcia-Herrero about the scale of Germany’s exposure to an increasingly aggressive China in particular, and the challenge of diversifying German supply chains to mitigate geopolitical risks, especially in critical sectors. We hear about competing …
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9 – Germany’s Baltic Future: Can Berlin Learn from its Partners on Lake NATO?
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Ben and Aaron are joined on this episode by Oliver Moody, Berlin Correspondent for The Times and author of a forthcoming book entitled Baltic: The Future of Europe to be published by John Murray press. The book shows how the region is not only the frontier of our present security but of our better future. Described as the most economically, politic…
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