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Welcome to the Stacking Slabs, a podcast for sports cards collectors. There's been a tremendous amount of change to our Hobby over the last few years and the one constant has been the passion from the collecting community. Stacking Slabs is built by the collector and lives to tell stories for the collector.
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What people want is a big outcome. And the only way you get a big outcome is to take a big swing and be bold. Welcome to The Content Cocktail Hour, the show hosted by The Juice’s Jonathan Gandolf and Clayton Stobbs that squeezes out the deepest secrets of modern B2B marketing professionals on pushing your brand to the forefront of the industry.
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The Search Economy

David Riggs and Brett McGrath

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Traditional advertising channels like newspaper ads, radio spots, billboards, and TV commercials are a great way to create demand, but lack what’s needed to capture it. We’re living in The Search Economy. Consumers have more access to information than ever before which puts them in complete control of their buying decisions. The problem? Most businesses aren’t doing enough to adapt to the changes to make it easy on their next customer to find them. On The Search Economy, David Riggs, Founder ...
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The Business & Marketing Scoop with Mark Flavin of 3B1 brings you interviews with entrepreneurs, marketers, founders and leaders. Discover actionable insights and learnings that you can take back to your business. Check out 3B1 at https://3B1.ie
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Curtis (@90s_kid_card_collector) makes his return on SSP to discuss the importance of collector focused content and talk about the importance of spending time with your cards. Last week Curtis dropped a video on Instagram that went "hobby viral" and we discuss the origin story of the post. Get exclusive content, promote your cards, and connect with…
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In the latest episode of Auction Talk Nic talks about some recent auction wins that he landed. He discusses the reasons why he wanted the cards and how he evaluated their values. Also, the two spend a lot of time talking about Finest Football and cover their favorite auctions for this week. Don't forget to check out The Wharf Sports Cards for all o…
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On this week's edition of the flagship episode of Stacking Slabs Brett shares his recent experience of diving into the Indianapolis Colts Gold Prizm collecting run. He shares the mindset and mentality he's using to tackle this behemoth of a project. Get exclusive content, promote your cards, and connect with other collectors who listen to the pod t…
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"It isn't about using video, podcasts, or any other medium. It's about understanding what your audience is doing. Are they engaging with specific channels? If they're not, that could be an opportunity for you to stand out," says Ali Schwanke, Founder of Simple Strat. In this episode of The Content Cocktail Hour, we’re joined by the Founder of Simpl…
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In the latest episode of The Search Economy, David talks with Eric Hinman who is an endurance athlete who has built an business around his personal brand. Eric shares the business concepts that he's created and the role of content in the process. He talks about the journey that his audiences goes on to interact with his brands in The Search Economy…
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We're unlocking a new character Paul (@jrem8collectibles) on today's collector conversation. Paul discusses his first year collecting shiny Colts cards and how he found his footing. He talks about the importance of nostalgia and how that's driven his collecting from the beginning. Get exclusive content, promote your cards, and connect with other co…
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In this week's episode of Auction Talk Brett and Nic discuss what's happening with cards in the build up to The National, brokering deals in the private market, the fallout on Tatum vs. Brown, and all of the auctions that are catching their attention this week. Don't forget to check out The Wharf Sports Cards for all of your consignment needs. Get …
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On this episode Brett talks about sending cards to consignment with The Wharf Sports Cards and how he's thinking about the allocation of his funds. Oddly enough, it feels like a unique situation where there isn't already a card to be paid for or one he's after. He shares his mindset going into his next pick up. Get exclusive content, promote your c…
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"One of the most interesting and fun aspects we're focusing on is the word 'fun' itself. The idea that B2B brands can and should be more playful and exhibit their personality in their branding to catch consumers’ attention in a more meaningful way,” says David Kavanagh, Chief Marketing Officer at Jebbit. In this episode of The Content Cocktail Hour…
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In the latest episode of 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐡 𝐄𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐨𝐦𝐲 podcast Brett and David discuss why CEOs should care about search. They discuss the importance of CEOs making SEO a part of the broader company strategy and ways that we can communicate the value to leaders who might not understand the potential growth impact. Subscribe to The Search Economy Newsletter fo…
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In this week's collector conversation Katelyn (@coldlunchcards) makes her triumphant return to the damn pod to talk about the current state and community around WNBA cards. Katelyn gets into the growth of the category, ways to get educated, and some of her favorite cards in her WNBA PC. Get exclusive content, promote your cards, and connect with ot…
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In this week's episode of Auction Talk Brett and Nic talk about the biggest thing missing from buying and selling cards right now. They do deep dive into the No Recent Comps concept and share their favorite auctions that are running this week. Don't forget to check out The Wharf Sports Cards for all of your consignment needs. Get exclusive content,…
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In this episode Brett talks about moves that he's made simply by spending additional time with his cards. He talks about the hobby as an escape and how different ideas can hit you in those moments with your cards. Get exclusive content, promote your cards, and connect with other collectors who listen to the pod today by joining the Patreon: Join St…
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And we're back with another episode of Hobby Shop Talk with Jamison Long, Owner at Port City Sports Collectibles. During this conversation Jamison dives into what it's been like to get the shop ready for Summer traffic, current priorities with his shop, and adapting to changes that are going on throughout the industry. Jamison discusses Port City S…
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"We often talk about marketing as if we're addressing robots, using playbooks to tenfold our growth, stuck in the early 2000s mindset of click funnels. Too many people are still in that space,” says Luke Frazier, Chief Growth Officer at GOOD Agency. In this episode, we are joined by GOOD Agency’s Luke Frazier to discuss the authenticity of marketin…
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In the latest episode of The Search Economy, David talks with Amanda Liew Hill, Director of Ecommerce & Lifecycle for First Day. Amanda shares how she thinks about helping her DTC brand stand out, get attention, and create new customers. Today's conversation is about tactics, mentality, and philosophies for getting found by your next customer. Subs…
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In this week's collector conversation long time collector Ben (@nonsensenamecards) makes his first appearance on the podcast to discuss his collection of culturally and historically significant people and their first cards. Ben has been building a one of a kind collection based on significance for some time and he shares how he defines significance…
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In this week's episode of Auction Talk Brett and Nic talk about some of the things they do when preparing for a new collecting lane, tactics used when a big card goes up for sale, and as always discussion on some of the coolest cards hitting the auction block this week. Don't forget to check out The Wharf Sports Cards for all of your consignment ne…
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In this week's flagship edition Brett talks about losing on a card that he'd been working towards for the last month. He shares the reason why he was after the card alongside the process he went through to try to win it. Get exclusive content, promote your cards, and connect with other collectors who listen to the pod today by joining the Patreon: …
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"So I believe the true purpose of content is twofold: it serves as both an act of philanthropy and a marketing strategy for brands,” says David Ebner, President of Content Workshop. In this episode, we’re joined by the one and only David Ebner, President of Content Workshop, to dive into the art and science of content marketing, covering everything…
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In the latest episode of 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐡 𝐄𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐨𝐦𝐲 podcast Brett and David discuss the roles of both SEO and Social Media in getting your next customer's attention. They discuss the intent of each discipline and why it's important to understand how each discipline can impact the types of conversations that are happening about your brand. Subscribe to The …
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In this episode Austin (@carlson_cards) discusses his love of the 2000-2010 era of football cards. He shares his favorite sets, opportunities, and how this era measures up with others. Get exclusive content, promote your cards, and connect with other collectors who listen to the pod today by joining the Patreon: Join Stacking Slabs Podcast Patreon …
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In this week's episode of Auction Talk Nic talks about his 5 favorite cards that have come through for consignment, underrated parallels in football, YTD% change of players from Card Ladder, and all of the auctions that are getting their attention. Don't forget to check out The Wharf Sports Cards for all of your consignment needs. Get exclusive con…
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In this episode Brett discusses how a recent experience with his collection led to some dramatic changes. He talks about the reasons why those decisions were made and what might be next. Get exclusive content, promote your cards, and connect with other collectors who listen to the pod today by joining the Patreon: Join Stacking Slabs Podcast Patreo…
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“People are realizing now, with the higher level of scrutiny that they're facing, that they really have to be able to show the impact of what they're working on. And it's not just for the sake of reporting and saying it, but also because they all want to have an impact,” says Pranav Piyush, Co-Founder and CEO of Paramark. In this episode, Jonathan …
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In the latest episode of The Search Economy, David talks with Stephanie Fornaro, Owner of Hello, Nanny! about how she uses data to better inform how to find her next customer. She covers why she built the Hello, Nanny!, how she thinks about content, and why creating great experiences can lead to growth. Subscribe to The Search Economy Newsletter fo…
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In today's collector conversation John (@packnicholson) returns to the podcast to discuss his recent acquisition of the 2012-2013 LeBron James Select Gold Prizm /10. He shares why he needed this card and the process that he went through in order to secure it for his collection. Get exclusive content, promote your cards, and connect with other colle…
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We're back with Auction Talk! In this week's episode Brett and Nic cover the moment when you realize that you need a card, advantages of not going to The National, trends they're spotting, and auctions that are catching their attention. Don't forget to check out The Wharf Sports Cards for all of your consignment needs. Get exclusive content, promot…
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We're two months away from The National and plenty of other big shows happening this Summer. Brett shares the process he uses to set up deals in advance of shows to make sure he avoids as much aimless meandering as possible. Get exclusive content, promote your cards, and connect with other collectors who listen to the pod today by joining the Patre…
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"Salespeople know a lot, and yet that knowledge gets impacted. It just sits dormant inside us. But if you're in sales today, you have stories, you have assets that are underused. Start using your damn assets." In this episode, we’re joined by Bill Caskey, President of Caskey Achievement Strategies, to stir the pot by challenging conventional sales …
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In the latest episode of 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐡 𝐄𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐨𝐦𝐲 Jonathan Rivera of Superior Attic talks about how he thinks about using data to find his next customer. He shares his process, strategy, and how he allocates budget to making sure his business stands out above the rest in the space he's in. Subscribe to The Search Economy Newsletter for the companion piec…
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Today, Stacking Slabs Podcast launches a new content series in partnership with PSA. On this episode Brett talks with Ryan Hoge, President at PSA about how their team makes decisions with a collector first mindset. Ryan discusses recent news like the new holders and eBay partnership. Also, he dives into topics like the 2021 backlog, counterfeit car…
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In the Friday conversation Josh at 90s Auctions (@midwestvintagecards) returns to the podcast to discuss curating auctions for a specific segment of the hobby. I'm a big believer that the more we shrink the sea and connect like-minded collectors the more our hobby will grow. 90s Auctions has an auction running now that ends on June 2, 2024. Check o…
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We're back with Auction Talk! In this week's episode Brett and Nic cover the process of consolidation, boomerang cards, thinking about value from a player vs. set collection, and of course all of the auctions that are making them happy right now. Nic spends some time discussing the recent 2017 Select Gold Field Level Patrick Mahomes RC that just so…
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In this episode Brett talks about The Art of Chasing Cards or maybe just the determination it takes to get the cards that we need. Chasing cards can place us in a helpless position most of the time, but landing your grail can be everything. There's no instruction booklet to the madness, but theres a ton of experience that can be shared amongst coll…
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"Content without consumption is just a massive waste. And I feel like often we build these big, robust content strategies and a big list of all these pieces of content we need to create, and we don’t optimize it to get consumed." In this episode, we’re joined by Demandbase’s CMO, Kelly Hopping to discuss the new era of ABM and the key ingredients t…
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In the latest episode of 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐜𝐡 𝐄𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐨𝐦𝐲 podcast Brett and David discuss the impact of people over technology when it comes to SEO. They discuss how you decide what SEO work needs to be done by technology and what needs to be done by people. They share where business owners, operators, and marketers get it wrong and examples of brands doing it r…
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In today's episode Brett chats with Dave (@iowa_dave_sportscards) about the landscape of content that makes up our hobby. Dave has long been a curator of content in the hobby and even was crazy enough to listen to 60 total hours of content in one week. Also, Dave hosts "The Shallow End" podcast where he discusses how to manage collecting on a budge…
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Welcome back to Auction Talk! This week we talk about the most important lessons we've learned as collectors over the last year, how to manage the grieving process of an auction loss, auctions across the universe that are catching our attention, and more! Get exclusive content, promote your cards, and connect with other collectors who listen to the…
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Yes, there's such a thing as good irrational behavior when collecting sports cards. Brett discusses the differences between the good and the bad and how he uses it to fuel his own collecting journey. Get exclusive content, promote your cards, and connect with other collectors who listen to the pod today by joining the Patreon: Join Stacking Slabs P…
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"Over the past decade, marketing has become more of a finance position and less of a creative position. A lot of marketers, today, forget how to be creative,” says Greg Wise, Co-Founder and Chief Customer Officer at OneScreen.AI. In this episode, we’re raising our glasses with OneScreen.AI’s Greg Wise on The Content Cocktail Hour for a discussion o…
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In today's episode Brett brings back Kevin (@dacaptain37) to discuss what's happening at card shows this year. Kevin is a long time dealer and talks about the things he's seeing from both a buyer and dealer perspective. If you're looking to get out to more card shows this Summer this is an episode that you won't want to miss. Get exclusive content,…
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Welcome back to Auction Talk! This week spend some time showing appreciation for some collector pages who are teaching us a thing or two about cards. We dive into nostalgia, the NBA Playoffs, and cover all things auctions. Get a 93% payout on your consignment with The Wharf Sports Cards by using promo code "stacking93" [Final week of promo] Get exc…
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In this episode Brett talks about the place that collecting cards carves out for him in his every day life. He discusses all of the various ways to enjoy the hobby and why he views it as an escape from reality. Also, he discusses some industry shifts taking place and how he's thinking about them. Get exclusive content, promote your cards, and conne…
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Welcome to the first episode of The Search Economy podcast. In this episode David Riggs, Founder and CEO at Pneuma and Brett McGrath, VP of Marketing at Pneuma define what The Search Economy means. They give their reasons for starting the show and what's possible when businesses start showing up in ways that are consistent with how their next custo…
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Brett welcomes back Jamison Long owner of Port City Sports Collectibles for another episode of Hobby Shop Talk. Jamison was recently at the Topps Industry Conference and shares what he learned about future plans ahead from one of the largest manufacturers in the hobby. Follow Port City Sports Collectibles: Instagram | TikTok | Facebook | Website Ge…
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In this week's collector conversation Brett chats with Brian (@prison_mike_pc) about gathering information from good resources in the hobby. Recently, Brian authored articles about 2012 Prizm Pylon 1/1's and 1997 Finest Embossed Refractors that went into detail about providing clarity around sets that previously had a lot of mystery to them. Also, …
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Welcome back to Auction Talk! Nic and Brett discuss the challenges of collecting one of your favorite player's cards that's currently running through a hobby hype cycle. Also, the two discuss the steps to take and options when preparing for a significant card purchase. As always, Nic and Brett share some of the current auctions that are catching th…
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In this episode Brett talks about how the intersection of fandom and collecting sports cards. He shares the evolution he's been on with his collection and how he's avoided getting sucked up in the next hobby hype cycle. Get exclusive content, promote your cards, and connect with other collectors who listen to the pod today by joining the Patreon: J…
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In this week's collector conversation Brett talks with James (@madcitycollector) about the power of set collectors. They discuss the consistency and patience that goes into building a set in the ultra modern era. Also, they discuss the intersection of set, player, and team collector and how that competition impacts values. Get exclusive content, pr…
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