In Getting Making, Dr. Bridget Harvey discusses making and repairing, and caring for things. She speaks with a variety of makers, curators, conservators and thinkers to explore how that care extends to understandings of the world. bridgetharvey.co.uk instagram.com/bridgetharvey/ Thanks to CCW Research and the Centre for Circular Design who funded this podcast, project manager Meghan Hutchins and illustrator Debbie Powell who helped bring it to life.
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A conversation with experts in cutting-edge fields related to mental health, physical wellbeing, and spiritual sustenance. A look at what our future holds for us.
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Maiko Tsutsumi studied furniture making and Japanese lacquer work in Kyoto before moving to London to study furniture design at the Royal College of Art and later completing her practice based PhD The Poetics of Everyday Objects. After leaving the furniture industry She was course leader role for MA Designer Maker at Camberwell College of Arts, unt…
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Conserving conservation materials with Simon Fleury
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Simon Fleury originally trained as a photographer, making and developing physical photographs. He came to conservation incidentally, training on the job and transitioning from technical worker to become a conservator. Simon and I met at Victoria and Albert Museum back in 2018 when I was artist in residence there. Our conversation here is about Simo…
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Mariah Nielson’s background as an architect has informed her work as a curator and design historian. She worked as curator at the Museum of Craft and Design, San Francisco, (2009–2011) and as director of the JB Blunk Residency (2007–2011). In 2013, she completed an MA in Design History at the Royal College of Art and the Victoria & Albert Museum, L…
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Making and Collecting with Tommaso Corvi-Mora
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Tommaso Corvi-Mora (b. 1969) is artist and gallerist. He opened his first gallery in London in 1995. Corvi-Mora, the gallery, represents a swathe of artists, and creates conceptual links between contemporary art and ceramics, showing works by Sam Bakewell, Shawanda Corbett, Myra Greene and Julian Stair amongst many others. After enrolling in an eve…
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Archive Curation with Jacqueline Winston Silk
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Jacqueline Winston-Silk is a curator at the Archives & Special Collections Centre, University of the Arts London. She looks after the Camberwell Inner London Education Authority (ILEA) Collection, which is what most of our conversation centres on. We talk about organising, storing and handling the collection, an unusual selection of design objects,…
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Danielle Thom is a curator, currently at London’s Design Museum, and also a writer, broadcaster and lecturer. She has a dual focus on contemporary craft and design, and eighteenth-century sculpture and decorative arts, and works to locate objects and images in their wider social and cultural contexts. Amongst other things, we talk about the differe…
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Hello and thanks for tuning in! This is a short introductory episode of my podcast, Getting Making, where I explore how we care for objects. About 5 years ago I started thinking more explicitly about mishaps and care in relation to things. They were both topics which were very present in my practice and research around repair, but seemed to shine t…
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The Mommy (and Daddy) Brain Controversies: Adaptation not Deficit with Bridget Callaghan, PhD (Los Angeles)
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"We trained pregnant and never pregnant women and we tested them on their memory for these items immediately after they learned them and then we tested them two weeks later, looking at their long term autobiographical memory. What we found was that for the immediate test, the pregnant women did better than the never pregnant women on the baby relev…
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Two Psychiatrists Face the Illness of Their Daughter with Philip Lister, MD (New York)
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"The universality of guilt - I think that my life as a child therapist has a lot of advantages; we carry the idea that ‘we are all the ages we've ever been’ and those magic years never disappear. There are some great things about that - there are some problems with it too. That kind of irrational self-centered construction to explain what is intole…
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Stigma: How Support Groups for Mental Illness are Helpful with John Tamerin, MD
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"Because I couldn't help my son, I couldn't do anything for him, I thought maybe I could start this group and help other people and other parents deal with this problem. What I wasn't prepared to face was just how lonely, how alone, how sad, and feeling hopeless I was. In a way, when the group began, I needed the group as much as the group needed m…
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How Rituals Attach us to our Communities with Dimitris Xygalatas, Ph.D.
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"If you randomly assign people in two groups and you give them different insignia or you have them go through different practices, as we saw in this study, they come to like each other more. It's very easy to create this basic sense of belonging and identity. Ritual is particularly good at eliciting that kind of sense also because it triggers our i…
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Might Rapamycin Extend our Lifespan, Healthspan, and Cognitive Functioning? with Arlan Richardson, PhD
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"One of the things that is very exciting is that this is a very robust finding. In other words, sometimes in science people see something and then it's not replicated - Rapamycin’s impact on lifespan has been replicated. When I started researching this area 50 years ago, I never felt that we would find a pill that would have an impact on aging and …
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An Analyst's Novel: Resilience in the Face of a Mother's Death with Kerry Malawista, PhD
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"One way a child of Jody’s age deals with loss is that you don’t miss the person, in a sense you can become them. So, I have her step into the mother role, immediately trying to look after the younger ones and then wearing her mother sunglasses - it’s like she becomes her and then you don’t miss her so much. The neighbor is like an analyst figure, …
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Bipolar Disease, Insulin Resistance and Metformin: New Research with Cynthia Calkin, MD
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"The best way to think about insulin resistance is that it’s pre-diabetes. In the course of developing type 2 diabetes, which we see in much higher rates in people with bipolar disorder compared to the general population, one starts off with normal blood sugar levels but elevated insulin. It is the elevated insulin that pushes the blood sugar down …
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The Value of Paternity Leave for Children and Families with Richard Petts, PhD
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"When paternity leave comes into the picture you have a situation where parents are home together. Those processes are able to develop for both the mother and the father - there’s time for fathers to bond with their children, there’s time for parents to figure out how to be parents together. It’s not so lopsided where mothers become the experts bec…
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The Role of Technology in Mental Health Care with Isaac Galatzer-Levy, PhD
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"There is a company called NightWare, that developed a feature for PTSD that uses components from Apple Watch. One of the primary symptoms in PTSD is intense nightmares which are very distressing, they disrupt their sleep and really drive a lot of symptomatology. This company created an app that detects when people with PTSD are having nightmares. …
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Disability, Psychotherapy, and Resilience with H. Penny Mishkin, MS, OTR
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"I would say to any parent who has a child now or any adult who has a disability now - disabilities are looked at quite differently. They are accepted much more than they were when I was growing up. So, you can’t take things out of context, but I was just living a secret life and that wasn’t good, it really wasn’t. That was why I was remote, so wha…
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Short Term Dynamic Psychotherapy for Physical Symptoms with Allan Abbass, MD
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"Someone comes in and they are having these fainting attacks and neurological symptoms, they do develop different anxiety channels and the first of their goal is to help them be able to identify and feel their emotions and not have any anxiety, but before getting there we help them learn to reflect on their body response and intellectual wise and i…
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Probiotics Added to Antidepressants Improve Outcome: New Preliminary Research with Anna-Chiara Schaub (Basal, Switzerland)
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"We have those two groups with the probiotics and the placebo. The patients were allocated to the two groups and it was double-blind so we didn’t know if they took the probiotics or the placebo. They took it for four weeks and we did the assessments before the intervention and after the intervention and then we just compared. We compared how the tr…
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Does Religious Commitment Improve Academic Performance? (Sometimes) with Ilana Horwitz, PhD
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"How does religion matter here? The reason that kids who are religious ‘abiders’ end up having an academic advantage, especially in the working class and the middle class, is because their grades are so much better in the middle and high school years that their chances of getting into college are much higher. They also are constantly being told: “O…
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A Physician with Metastatic Cancer Takes Psilocybin with Pradeep Bansal, MD
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"I don't think anybody can truly describe the [psilocybin] experience. One can use phrases and words that are common - ineffable, mystical, powerful. All I can say is it was the most powerful experience of my life that I have gone through ever." "We had another CAT scan in September of last year, in 2021, and it showed another small nodule. My onco…
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Babies' Laughing and Joking: When and Why with Gina Mireault, PhD
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“That was actually Darwin's hypothesis in observing his own son and he writes about this in “The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals.” He writes about this incipient laughter – he was the first one to recognize this as a built-in response that the baby has that really pulls the baby into the adult world or pulls adults into the infant wor…
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Mothers, Daughters, and Food with Judith Rabinor, PhD
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"All Jenny knew was that she wanted to lose weight. One of the things I say to people when I teach about eating disorders is ‘treating eating disorders is all about food and not at all about food’. It is not at all about food, there is always an issue, it is not just about wanting to be thin. Even though in the late 70s’ Twiggy came on the scene an…
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The Neurology of Religious Belief with Andrew Newberg, MD
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"If somebody was to say a prayer to Jesus versus say a prayer to Allah versus say a prayer to Vishnu - in some sense that is going to be a similar kind of process in the brain. They are repeating certain words directed towards some higher power in their view. In some sense there is similarity across those different domains and those different tradi…
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Intergenerational Secrets and their Discovery in Psychotherapy with Galit Atlas, PhD
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"There is a very close relation between being known and knowing others and allowing others to know us. When somebody goes to therapy, it usually impacts everyone around them in many ways. We can say it challenges relationships. It does many things. But one thing is that when you feel known and you are not hiding anymore, you realize that who you ar…
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When Someone You Care About Has an Eating Disorder with Judith Brisman, Ph.D.
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“When someone is disordered in their eating often what you find is that they’ve been a kid who has learned to have radar for the feelings of other people. Whether it’s a family where the kid can’t express their emotions and parents’ emotions rule, that kid has learned to look to the outside to figure out who she should be. So of course, in our cult…
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Polyvagal Safety, Sociality, and Health with Stephen Porges, PhD
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"Polyvagal theory at the simplest level emphasizes that we have a physiological system, and the autonomic nervous system mediates how we react and respond to the world. When our autonomic nervous system is calm it supports our bodily functions. It also provides permission at a neural level for us to trigger other parts of our brain that results in …
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Psychedelic Psychotherapy for PTSD: New Research with Ingmar Gorman, PhD
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"[during the MDMA experience] at around 45 minutes they may notice a shift where the anxiety dissipates and there is a sense of opening, a sense of feeling ok, maybe more than ok, maybe feeling a little bit blissful or positive. One study measured a sense of authenticity - meaning the feeling of being ok to be oneself. They may choose to continue t…
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The Challenges of Raising Adolescents with Erica Komisar
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"To be able to contain, withstand and hold the aggression of your adolescents who push you away, you have to feel very secure - meaning that you have to feel pretty good about yourself as a parent, that you have given them everything, that you have been present enough. It comes from a security and I find today that many, many parents are not secure…
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Oxytocin, Love and Developmental Trauma with Sue Carter, PhD
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"There's this kind of dance between biology and this little molecule that gave us the capacity to take care of our infants by feeding them directly. That gave us tremendous freedom - we didn’t need a nest so we were able to wander the planet. We could interact with all kinds of others as long as mom was there for the first couple of years, or let’s…
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The Psychology of Coaching: Working with Global Leaders Under Intense Pressure with Rachel Ellison
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"Coaching is asking. It’s even better when you don’t know how to do that person’s job because they work in a different industry to you. All you can do is ask and that is pure coaching. It’s an 80-20 ratio of speaking to listening - 80 percent of the time your job is to listen and to ask but not know the answer. Often the client thinks you do know t…
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The Psychology of Magic and its Use in Wellbeing with Gustav Kuhn, PhD
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"As cognitive psychologists we are very much interested in these unconscious processes. Most of the processes that are involved to create your reality you are not consciously aware of. There are more computations that happen in our unconscious minds to allow us to solve a lot of these problems. As within psychoanalysis we are often unaware of a lot…
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Listening and Prozac: Integrating Psychotherapy and Medications with Peter Kramer, MD
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"I write a lot about stuckness - it’s not just how bad the thing is but whether it’s changeable and flexible - whether the patient is at least occasionally able to get out of that perspective and see things differently. For patients who are really stuck, sometimes I would give them medicine and continue psychotherapy. After six or seven months of h…
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What is the Placebo Effect and How Can it be Harnessed? with Joe Kossowsky, Ph.D.
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"We used [open-label placebo] in kids with Irritable Bowel Syndrome and the interesting thing about these patients is that they were only allowed to enroll in our study at Boston Children’s if all other treatments had failed. Basically. we had a population that had undergone numerous treatments with all of them not helping much. These are patients …
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History and Culture Matter for Depression with Jonathan Sadowsky, PhD
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“[Springsteen's book] is about rock and roll; it’s about the joy of music; and it’s about clinical depression. He weaves these together and Springsteen is not only a great example of how someone can live a creative life while enduring this kind of suffering, but he also shows how invisible depression can be to others. Who would have ever equated th…
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Varieties of Attunement and the Spectrum with Edward Brodkin, MD and Ashley Pallathra, MA
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"The first pillar is relaxed awareness - we talk about it as the fundamental state of mind and body that is the basis of attunement. Listening is the taking in of cues and information from the other person. Understanding is cognitively processing and understanding that information that you’ve taken in. The final pillar is mutual responsiveness. It …
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Breathing, the Vagus Nerve, and Compassion with Patricia Gerbarg, MD
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"In infancy and childhood the autonomic nervous system is going through developmental stages just as with any other aspect of development. The quality of the engagement and the closeness with the caretaker has a big effect on how the autonomic system develops. When we have conditions where we feel safe, then we tend to have dominance of the activit…
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Therapeutic Approaches to Chronic Pain with Michele Cohen, LCS
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I play [piano] regularly with a violinist every Wednesday night - my violinist comes with her student to my house and we play two violin and piano duets first. Right now, we are working on the Franck Sonata and it is so much fun! It is so great and I am so happy I can do that! When I am playing and I am passionate, the pain stays in the background …
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Hoarding and Psychotherapy with Stelios Kiosses
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"If you discard an item that a compulsive hoarder is attached to - it could be an empty box, a tin, or something like that. If you throw that particular item that they are attached to away, the grief that a compulsive hoarder will experience is the same amount of grief that one would experience with the loss of a loved one. The same intensity of gr…
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Zen and Psychotherapy with Robert Waldinger, MD
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"It's not a good meditation when you are having fewer thoughts, it is not a bad meditation when you are having more thoughts or wilder thoughts. Really what Zen talks about is the limitation of just focusing on thoughts. Most of the time we are lost in our thoughts - we focus exclusively on our thoughts with much less attention to sensations, to pe…
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Managing Separations from Your Young Child with Erica Komisar
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"Any separation, no matter how short the separation, requires a moment of reunion and repair. If you disregard the importance of that reunion and repair, collectively that starts to do great injury to that baby. Every time we have those missteps it is really important to repair them." Episode Description: We begin by discussing the centrality of th…
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A Gynecologist/Psychoanalyst Treats Amenorrhea with Claudia Spadazzi, MD
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"She first came to me for the amenorrhea - she was sent to me by a gynecologist colleague. The menstrual problem was solved in the first five months and then everything was fine from that point of view. But from the eating disorder, stress, situational anxiety, and sexual difficulties in accepting herself as a young attractive woman, this was a lon…
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A Psychotherapist Struggles with New Motherhood with Andy Cohen (Johannesburg)
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"Buried inside of us are all these layers and layers of selves, like a Russian nesting doll, and the baby self fits inside all the different ages of you. In my experience of being in this kind of therapy I was starting to get to know all the unresolved thoughts and conflicts and ideas that were still sort of buried in me but hadn’t had an opportuni…
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Psychobiotics and the Future Treatment of Depression with Scott Anderson
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"I'm not saying this is going to cure your depression, but I am saying that it stands a good chance of fixing up your gut, and if your depression is gut-related this could have a big impact on you. This could be a big explanation for the worldwide epidemic of depression that is going on because it is very strongly correlated, not caused, but correl…
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How to Raise a Loving and Creative 30-Year-Old: Findings from Research with Nathan Szajnberg MD
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"When you look in the background of the Mona Lisa you see how much attention the artist paid to the landscape - it’s at a certain horizon, the left horizon is higher than the right horizon, it’s interesting. The parents and the family are the landscape into which the infant is born. If every infant is thought of as if it is the Mona Lisa in the cen…
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What is Dynamic Psychotherapy and Does it Work? with Jonathan Shedler, PhD
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"When we talk about psychodynamic therapy that’s what we are talking about - therapy that aims to enable you to truly know yourself in a way that is transformative, in a way that opens the door to living life differently than you are able to live now, in a way that provides some escape from having to relive the same kinds of painful, self-defeating…
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Can We Really Prevent Alzheimer's Disease? with Richard Isaacson, MD
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"What we do is meaningful, it's real, our effects are real. I can say that now. We still have people that read our studies and say: ‘This is random...It does not do anything … It is not possible…’, but it is, it really is. You only have to see it 10 times, but now I have seen it hundreds of times since we have been following people now for 5, 6 and…
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A Psychotherapist Shares Her Phases of Love with Juliet Rosenfeld (London)
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"If we spoke about his illness it made it more real. Of course he did know, he must have known what the prognosis was for his illness - ultimately for 100% of the kind of lung cancer that he had, it was fatal. I also think he feared that if he was spoken about in terms of being someone with this horrible potentially terminal illness, that he would …
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Psychedelic Medicines in a Therapeutic Context with Jeffrey Guss, MD
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“The autobiographical stage [in a psilocybin experience] is where a great deal of important work happens. One of the most important things that happens during this phase is the emergence of what is truly valued by the individual. Consider when there is a cancer diagnosis - it seems that at that point everything about them falls away except their bo…
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The Microbiome in Child Development with Bridget Callaghan, Ph.D.
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"Why I am so interested in the microbiome across development is because it really shows a very interesting developmental gradient that closely maps on to other parts of the body and the brain in terms of sensitive periods of emotional development and language. There is also a really taut connection between the mother and child in terms of what the …
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