What even is time, anyway? Apologies for the choppiness throughout, we were both experiencing connection issues while recording. Super producer Erik is of the belief that he did a good job cleaning it up.

Or “The Woman Who Was Cool”. The boys sit down with good friend of the show Gus to remind you that Todd Field invented Big League Chew and also that his movie Tár absolutely rules. We dare to ask “is Cate Blanchette good at conducting?”, spot ghosts, trying to enjoy Monster Hunter, playing the triangle right and “what this movie is actually about?”…

Oh shit. Oh no. No no no. Oh shit, fuck fuck fuck. Holy fuck, this ain’t good. Ben also formally apologizes to our listening public for repeatedly confusing 747s and 767s. We will do better. Atlantic article referenced: https://archive.ph/PomMR (that URL reads "P...o..m...not Po- you know what, nevermind). Anyway, this should get around any paywall…

Tim read an ungodly amount of background material about Southland Tales, so we can consider this a followup to PNAC ep. 23 on Richard Kelly's masterpiece (https://podnac.libsyn.com/ep-23-pimps-dont-commit-suicide).

Apologies for our delay in releasing the second part of this episode, we got extradited yet again and lost wifi.

Ben is off reverse-engineering Baldur's Gate 3 to have even more girlfriends, so Erik and Tim are joined by PD to discuss John Woo's Paycheck. The PKD novel with the girl with the twin in her stomach is indeed Dr. Bloodmoney. The opening music is an excerpt from "Combat Cocktail" by Ville Kaillo from Cruelty Squad, the closing is "Starbucks, Dr. Se…

This one goes out to Betty Ong and Amy Sweeney. Two brave women who were heroes for as long as they were able to be.

We're continuing to host Super Producer Tim's show here on our feed because we want to and it rules and you should listen to him. So here we present: The first entry in Blue And White 00s Computer Movies! Spielberg and Tom Cruise team up to create the finest feature length Looney Tunes episode adapted from a Philip K. Dick story. Tune in to find ou…

We recorded this one back in 2023 so I have no idea what gets covered besides a wild ass story involving Jackie Chan. Also, I was wrong in the intro and after 100 hours can say Baldur’s Gate 3 owns. We will return with another PNAC after Easter and then get back to the movies after that.

Jesus, I promised no more of these but if Starfield warranted one so did this. Journey back in time a month or so and listen to Ben and Tim sit down for a freewheeling discussing on the Cyberpunk universe, 2077 and it's 2.0 update along with the DLC Phantom Liberty. We spoil the shit out of everything so if it's still stuck in your backlog know tha…

In part 2 of this epic, cyberpunk double feature we talk about good friend of the show and possible CIA asset Kathryn Bigelow's 1995 masterpiece Strange Days. This is one of Ben's favorite movies and he thinks you should watch it immediately if you have not seen it before.

Consider this proof of life. The PNAC boys still can't get a flight out of Khartoum after negotiations for our first live show went.... well not the way we wanted them to go. As we work tirelessly with the State Department here is some bonus content of the boys having a deliriously long conversation with producer Tim about 1995's Johnny Mnemonic fo…

If you find this an unpleasant bummer just remember it could have been The Devil’s Rejects. Also, this was recorded mere days before the A24 Death Stranding movie was announced and Ben and Tim are very excited while Erik still doesn’t understand what you actually do in that game. Next episode we are going back to where this show started, Tim Burton…

Welcome to a new season of PNAC! The boys are done with games and baby stuff and focus their attention back to the big wedding itself. We go back to the good ol days and sit down with the History Commens timeline and start by covering the day of 9/11/011 from midnight to ~6:30 AM EST. We repeat some stuff that's come up on prior episodes but have p…

Oh, you thought you were just starting with the game? You sweet summer child.....

Tim gets to pick his first movie for our show and..... man where do we even begin. Join us as we lose our minds over the new craziest Biblical epic we have tackled to date. Our next two films will be Only God Forgives (2013) along with it's sister making of documentary My Life Directed By Nicholas Winding Refn (2014). You should really watch both t…

I am so sorry but hey, at least it's free?

Class is postponed bc the boys are too pissed off at the war that Israel has been waging war on the Palestinian people since Hamas committed their audacious attacks back on 10/7. With no end the killing in the boys talk about the attack itself, whistle signatures, the appalling Israeli response and the cowardly reaction by and large from the West. …

Once again the boys are back and joined by friend of the show/WTEH third mic, Tim, to stare directly into the sun (Erik was reportedly staring directly into Cillian Murphy's eyes, actually) and lose our minds over Danny Boyle and Alex Garland's 2007 thriller, Sunshine. If any references seem dated, it's because we recorded this thing back in like A…

Friend of the show Jonah joins lone wolf Ben for a light chat that went way too long. They are calling this the worst episode in PNAC history. Unfortunately, stick around for some news about the future of the show (still not ending, sorry)

Finally liberated from a CIA black site in Poland the boys are speaking their truth. Honestly, this was recorded so long ago I don’t remember much but we will be asking the biggest question yet: what if a president gave a speech. Next movie episode soon and look for an update about the future of PNAC within the next week or so!…

Bonus episode! The boys talk about the somewhat recent TMZ produced tv documentary about another plane that narrowly avoided being hijacked on 9/11. In the back half we are talking Turki and some recent disclosures that tie back to all our best friends of the show. All that plus the worst cold open we have done in nearly 2 years of the show. We wil…

In October of 1994, three student podcasters disappeared in the woods near Burkitsville, Maryland while recording an episode. A year later their audio was found. Ben Erik Tim Have all been missing and presumed dead ever since. If you have any information about their disappearance please visit BringBenHomeAlive.biz. Also in 2 weeks we continue our s…

I'd like to take a moment to apologize....TO ABSOLUTELY NO-ONE! PNAC BOYS DO WHATEVER WE WANT!! We keep reading Reaganland and go over the 1979 energy crisis. Next week we'll talk Iranian Revolution and Crisis of Confidence. I'm not writing anymore goddamn show notes. Ben, this is your job. I hope "having a gf" was worth it.…

We are doubling up on WTEH this week because it's been too goddamn hot to organize our thoughts into a coherent proper episode! We will be back VERY soon to talk about gas shortages, nuclear, and Jane Fonda; we'll also be going over a bit of the Prince Turki news. Look for the new PNAC early next week. For now, here is Erik and Ben with friend of t…

Hola, chica. The boys finally return with the Summer of Bangers. We are joined by Michael Mann scholar and good friend Connor to talk about Mann’s audacious, gritty reimagining of his classic 80s tv show. We also talk go-fast boats, Nazis, bespoke suits, and Grand Theft Auto. Also a lot of moaning and groaning while trying to explain how impossibly…

The boys return for a loose holiday weekend dive back into 1979 with a look into the rise of the evgangelical right. We talk more shit about Tim Lahey, go even harder on Anita Bryant and talk megachurches, homophobia and Orson Welles and the concept of eternal return. All that plus the murder of Harvey Milk, the Twinkie defense, admitting Jim Jones…

The boys put on their cowboy hats and get on the bus to talk about one of Ben’s all time favorite movies: Kenneth Lonergan’s 2011 coming-of-age tale of trauma, Margaret. We get into PTSD, realizing your life isn’t a movie, and #ReleaseTheMartyCut; along with The Girlfriend Experience, Rocky and Bullwinkle, Zizek-pilled Jean Reno, and generally just…

Welcome to season 3. In which Erik and Ben go toe to toe with end boss Bush/Cheney/Rummy etc. We power walk down memory lane catching you up on world history since the end of the Second World War. Spider networks, World War 3, anti communist extermination campaigns all bring us to the fateful year where the wheels truly start to come off the bus. P…

Just when you thought he was out, he's back in: Tha Sexual Chessmaster aka PD is back with the PNAC crew to discuss Zack Snyder's 2009 Watchmen. Next WTEH will be Margaret (2011) and we'll be back soon with PNAC as we get into a jaunt down the year of 1979 and all the insane shit that happened that year.…

We are joined by Canadian correspondent and good friend of the show Ambrose Sylvan to discuss their new article on Saudi Arabia, Qatar and their ties to Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter last year. We ask what the Canadian 9/11 was and talk Arab Spring, Saudi sportswashing and get get into Jack Teixeira and the Discord Papers. We also make fun of Mat…

Live from Golgotha it is the PNAC boys. We celebrate Easter the only way we know how, by dipping into Mel Gibson’s deranged Bush era snuff film The Passion of Christ. Plus this time around we are also talking S Craig Zahler, Terri Schiavo, Left Behind along with holding Mel accountable for some frankly unbelievably antisemitic content. In 2 weeks w…

And in the second half of our double header we have podcast dad Adam Fitzgerald back to wrap up our season 2 investigation as we separate fact from fiction with regards to Urban Moving Systems, the infamous Dancing Israelis and further links between Mossad and the larger 9/11 universe. Plus we look back at 20 years since the invasion of Iraq and Be…

The boys are back and this time are joined by the man who first put the sickness that is Richard Blee’s name into our heads all those years ago Ben Howard (@housetrotter). We dig into a newly unredacted and often very spicy filing from the Guantanamo 9/11 hearings. We are catching up on all your favorites here folks; Bandar, Omar, Alec Station and …

Back with a slightly wonky show order the boys use the recent headlines as an excuse to dive into JC Chandor’s 2011 debut Margin Call. We also fondly recall NBC’s The Slap, lament Kevin Spacey’s insane heel turn, along with the nosedive that became Chandor’s career. All that plus a fight over whether or not Frances Ha sucks that gets so intense, th…

Ben didn't give me show notes, but we talked about the TRUE STORY of Benghzai as only Michael Bay could deliver. Join us in discussing the SOY CIA, our beautiful operators, and that SHIT CAN known as Libya.

Live from the back of a panel van parked across the street from the FBI's Dallas field office it's the PNAC boys. We continue diving into the Shea Memo by examining the largest foreign spy ring ever discovered in the United States. We lay out the evidence from both the memo and the famous declassified DEA report on the frankly incredible number of …

We are joined this time around by good friend of the show Tim for an "Oops! All Tangents" romp through Renny Harlan and Shane Black's wild 1996 Lady Jason Bourne thriller, The Long Kiss Goodnight. We will be back in 2 weeks with another friend of the show to talk Ronald Emmerich's 2004 climate disaster flick, The Day After Tomorrow which nearly two…

From the counter of a New Mexico roadside dinner the boys are back and talking Oliver Stone’s 1994 psycho killing love story Natural Born Killers. We got a spicy one after a largely lockstep first 2 episodes. We are also talking this week Tarantino, Skinamarink, Devil’s Rejects, Dave McGowen, the Michael Keaton episode of King of the Hill plus SO M…

As always on PNAC, in order to go forward we must go back. So we invited a friend to join us and discuss the broad history of Palestinian settlement and occupation going back to 1915-17 through the Oslo Accords. Thank you to our friend for joining us and thanks to Slavic intern Sammy for helping set up this opportunity!…

Erik & Ben are back at the movies with something that could not be more in our combined wheelhouse. We dig into Bertrand Bonello's Nocturama, a style drenched terrorism/siege thriller from 2016. We break down the dumbest Bojinka plot variant, remember the 2015 Bataclan attack and also talk more Kubrick, John Wick, Danny Boyle & Alex Garland plus Be…

Season 2 baby!! We kick off our new investigation by beginning our deep dive into the 2004 Gerald Shea Memo which asks the question: "What the hell was the Israeli government getting into leading up to 9/11?" In this first episode we lay out the history of Shea himself and his memo; then, we walk through the preliminary findings as a way of setting…

EYES WIDE SHUT (1999), or, Episode One: Life Goes On...Until It Doesn't! Your good friends at PNAC Productions are happy to present: "Watching The End of History: Cinema from 1991 - 2016". Over the last few months, it has become abundently clear how difficult it can be to reliably produce quality weekly episodes; so the 2023 compromise will be some…

Lord help us, we are unbelievably back on our bullshit. (Stay tuned for something completely different later this week as well!)

It's Ben's birthday again and that means PNAC is going back to the movies! Join us as we dig way too deeply into Richard Kelly's 2006 magnum opus Southland Tales. Unlike last year we actually have a blast and wind up largely defend the ravings of an absolute madman whose brain had been broken by 9/11 and the PATRIOT Act. We go almost as long as the…

The boys are finally back and joined by super fan/Slavic intern Sammy to dig into the recently published, long awaited interview notes between W, Dick Cheney and the 9/11 Commission. Lots of lying plus we are talking are talking (probably too much) World Cup, Elon Musk being lame as fuck, fantasize of Bill Clinton and Kim Jong-Il meeting in the 90s…

Ben is poolside at the Four Seasons Hotel in Riyadh this week for a chat with journalist and writer Brian McGlinchey (28Pages.org, Stark Realities). We are talking about the fabled 28 Pages along with Operation Encore, some new Saudi names that have slipped out by mistake; plus the Saudi lobby, JASTA, and the current relationship between America an…

Previously recorded at the tail end of spooky season the boys are joined by friend of the show pd to dive into SK Bain's "The Most Dangerous Book In the World". Everyone tends to blame 9/11 on radical Islam but this book presupposes this notion, maybe it's the Devil instead? This is maybe the most loopy PNAC ep to date and we cover a wide range of …

The boys are back after a brief hiatus, the Russia material at the start hit at the time okay, and we are finally done reconnecting the dots this time around. We follow the FBI's final frantic search for Alhazmi and Almihdhar which goes great assuming you have been in cryosleep for the last 20 years. For everyone else, join us as we suffer severe p…

“If this guy is in the country, it’s not because he’s going to fucking Disneyland!” Coleen Rowley Memo: https://web.archive.org/web/20161205021024/https://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/05/politics/full-text-of-fbi-agents-letter-to-director-mueller.html