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Beauty journalists Jessica Matlin and Jennifer G. Sullivan have insider access to the industry and they’re not gatekeeping. On Wednesdays, they talk candidly about beauty news, cultural trends, and the latest products and treatments. On Fridays, they get their high-profile guests to open up about their relationship to Beauty Culture and the inner workings of the industry. Join the duo that pioneered the beauty podcast for a smart, funny, totally unfiltered discussion of all things beauty on ...
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Ep. 575: Influencer Troubles, Conservative Beauty Looks & The Week’s Beauty News
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29:52Can you really call particular beauty trends conservative or liberal? Jess & Jenn discuss. Plus: Coachella is a wrap; Revolve faces a class action lawsuit for its handling of influencer endorsements; big hair is back; Jess found a facial device that does it all; and Jenn welcomes a very special 10-year-old to the virtual studio to Raise (or Lower?)…
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Scents and the Soft Life with Sir Candle Man
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55:21Kudzi Chikumbu (aka @SirCandleMan), your bougie uncle of fragrance, shares the story of how he became a candle connoisseur. We talk about the $8 candle that he can’t get enough of, wick-trimming, waxes, why he doesn’t believe in a signature scent, the best-smelling hotel in the world, and so much more. Plus: His favorite Bath & Body Works candles a…
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Ep 574: Skin Tech, Tattoourism & The Week’s Beauty News
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52:40Garrett joins Jenn in the virtual studio to discuss where beauty culture is headed next: skincare for GLP-1 users; good news in animal testing; the futuristic work of Cornell’s Hybrid Body Lab; the best way to do a “moisture sandwich” to decrease retinoid irritation; and an encapsulated cannabidiol (CBD) cream that prevents UVA-induced damage. We a…
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Jennifer Aniston, Welcome to Fat Mascara!
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32:04Actress, producer, and founder of Lolavie, Jennifer Aniston, is in the studio for a fun and freewheeling chat with Jess and Jenn. We talk about how beauty culture is portrayed in her movies; her first audition; her best and worst haircuts; the ways her mom influenced her health and beauty choices; her dogs; how she decides which brands she wants to…
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Ep. 573: Southern Hospitality, Meghan Markle’s Makeup & The Week’s Beauty News
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37:03We’re on location at Montage Palmetto Bluff, in South Carolina, and sharing tips we learned at our masterclass with facialist Fatma Shaheen, the founder of Skin Design London. Relax with us and learn some techniques for draining your lymphatic fluid and releasing tension in your face. Plus, let’s talk about the beauty products Meghan Markle recomme…
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Ep. 572: Body Diversity, TikTok Perfumes & Our People Magazine Beauty Podcast Nod
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41:55Jess and Jenn get excited about being included as a best podcast nominee in People magazine’s Read Choice Poll, and then there’s lots of beauty news to cover. A new body-diversity report reveals that fashion models are getting skinnier, and the five best-selling perfumes on TikTok may surprise you. Plus, Kim Cattrall’s beauty campaign; changes at S…
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How Not to Smell & Spring Cleaning Tips with Madame Sweat
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57:46Why doesn’t natural deodorant always work? How do you prevent bad breath? What’s the best way to clean a mattress? Why do feet get so smelly? Social media sensation Madame Sweat—aka, Mary Further, the founder of Kaia Naturals—is here to answer all those questions. Plus, she explains how she became the internet’s expert on hygiene and etiquette, her…
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Ep. 571: The Intersection of Beauty & Sports, Arthritis-Friendly Makeup & The Week’s Beauty News
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49:15Jenn and Julee talk about all the brands sponsoring women’s sports leagues this year—and the athletes who bring the best looks. Plus, Jenn’s experience at The Othership bathhouse; Julee’s latest celebrity encounter; the FDA’s voluntary recall of acne products due to elevated levels of benzene; a perfume you can lick (if you want to?); a pelvic well…
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Drag Queen Beauty Secrets with Bianca del Rio
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25:54Bianca del Rio, aka Roy Haylock, is a comedian, drag queen, and winner of the sixth season of RuPaul's Drag Race. This is one of Fat Mascara’s first celebrity interviews (it originally aired in 2016) and it’s surprising how relevant it remains today! Bianca talks about how drag culture influences pop and beauty culture, and shares celebrity gossip,…
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Ep. 570: The White Lotus Look, Breast Implant Sponcon & The Week’s Beauty News
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1:02:06Garrett joins Jenn to discuss the look of the White Lotus ladies—and what the Thai resort where it’s filmed is really like (yes, Garrett visited). Plus, we’re talking about the latest skincare and sunscreen news from the American Academy of Dermatology meeting; Meghan Trainor’s branded content campaign for a breast implant company; multitasking sun…
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Perfumer Francis Kurkdjian on Art, Commerce, and Dupe Culture
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54:41From his Paris atelier, the mastermind behind Baccarat Rouge 540, Narciso Rodriguez for Her, and Jean Paul Gaultier Le Male dishes on his greatest hits and (a few) misses. Francis Kurkdjian, who co-founded Maison Francis Kurkdjian with Marc Chaya, reveals his unexpected path to perfumery, gets real about dupe culture, and explores the delicate bala…
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Ep. 569: Pat McGrath 2.0, What Greenpoint Smells Like & The Week’s Beauty News
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42:20What would a fragrance inspired by your town or neighborhood smell like? Call and let us know: 646-481-8182. Jess & Jenn got the idea to ask you all after discussing Bond No. 9’s new Gerenpoint perfume. We’re also chatting about Pat McGrath’s appointment to La Beauté Louis Vuitton; the polarizing beauty look at Prada’s runway show; writer Ottessa M…
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How Dianna Cohen Turned A Hair Obsession Into Crown Affair
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49:04Crown Affair’s hair products are in the bathrooms (and kits) of so many people who love and work in the beauty industry. How did that happen? Founder Dianna Cohen is here to explain. She shares lessons she learned working on some of the hottest “millennial” brands of the 2010s (Into The Gloss, Away, Outdoor Voices, Harry’s); why marketing isn’t the…
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Ep. 568: Makeup-Skincare Hybrids, Aromatherapy At Work & The Week’s Beauty News
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56:36Lots of new products (Versed, Rhode, Glow Recipe, Naked Sundays, etc.) claim to be your skincare and makeup in one, but do they really live up to the hype? Jenn hashes it out with Julee. Before that, Julee shares the backstory of a recent cover story she wrote and explains how she ended up modeling for InnBeauty Project’s new campaign. Plus, we’re …
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The Benefits of Bathing Culture with Robert Hammond
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50:46From saunas and jimjilbang to hammams and temazcales, bathing rituals exist in almost every culture around the world—but they’re still not a regular part of many people’s lives. Robert Hammond, the co-founder of New York City’s High Line and president of Therme Group US, wants to change that. He discusses the history of bathhouses in the modern Uni…
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Ep. 567: Listeners on Sephora Tweens, Animal Testing & The Week’s Beauty News
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1:00:19The Fat Mascara family is part of the show this week! Jess & Jenn share listener voicemails discussing Sephora birthday parties and tweens wearing makeup. We also talk about proposed legislation in California to ban the sale of “anti-aging skincare” to children. Plus, why is the FDA insisting that sunscreens in America should be tested on animals? …
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Celebrity Facials, Lymphatic Massage & More with Aesthetician Vanessa Marc
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54:06What do Zendaya, Hailee Bieber, Cardi B, and Sara Sampaio have in common? They’ve all put their faces (and bodies!) in the hands of aesthetician Vanessa Marc, the founder of Vanessa Marc Studio in New York City. She joins us to talk about why models and celebrities love her treatments, the special needs of melanin-rich skin, the benefits of lymphat…
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Ep. 566: Lotion P50 Drama, Big Hair, B Corps & The Week’s Beauty News
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58:59People are distraught about the discontinuation of Biologique Recherche’s P50 Lotion (1970 version), but Jenn & Garrett have some replacement suggestions. We’re also talking about Jenn’s filler (Garrett approves!); how teens feel about celebrity beauty brands; hair trends at New York Fashion Week; why Dr. Bronner’s is no longer a B Corp (and what B…
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Makeup artist Violette Serrat, the founder of Violette_FR, makes the je ne sais quoi of French Girl beauty and style accessible to everybody. She shares her rebellious approach to makeup, the homeopathic skin drops she uses, why skin needs to rest, the key to good “sex hair,” and why eyeshadow looks better when it’s “slowly dying.” This interview o…
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Ep. 565: Drugstore Beauty Shopping, Hair Salon Etiquette & The Week’s Beauty News
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45:12Jess & Jenn ponder the future this week! We talk more about kids having birthday parties at beauty stores, and then: why beauty shopping at drugstores is so unpleasant; advice for switching hair stylists; layoffs at Estée Lauder Companies; Paulina Porizkova returning to Lauder; navigating trade shows; manicures featuring NFC (Near-Field Communicati…
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Hidden Dangers of the Med Spa Industry with Dr. Kate Dee
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1:03:17Are you risking your health at unregulated med spas? Dr. Kate Dee, author of Med Spa Mayhem and owner of Glow Medispa in Seattle, reveals the shocking truth about America's aesthetic clinics. In this episode, she explains how to identify if a med spa is operating legally; the risks of unregulated treatments; and how lasers, cosmetic filler, microne…
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Ep. 564: Sephora Birthday Parties, Renuva & The Week’s Beauty News
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1:03:23Garrett joins Jenn to chat about tweens having birthday parties at Sephora and Glossier stores; a Kiehl’s campaign featuring pubic hair (and the history of the merkin!); body scrubs; bathhouses; perfume-longevity hacks; and a deep dive on Renuva, the newish non-surgical volumizing treatment that’s different than cosmetic filler or fat transfers. Ep…
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The Truth About Kibbe Body Types with David Kibbe
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55:20Image consultant David Kibbe published his cult-classic style guide in the 1980s, and now he’s updated and expanded his philosophy with a new book for a new generation. In this interview, he shares how he became a “style mentor,” how to think about developing your own personal style, the history of seasonal color analysis, why he thinks his image-i…
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Ep. 563: Before & After Photos, Mood-Boosting Perfume & The Week’s Beauty News
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53:00Jenn & Jess welcome FM’s intern, Lexi, to the studio to talk about mood-boosting fragrances and whether or not they work. Before that: How do we all feel about the term “dermorexia”? Plus: Jess shares her adventures in a Parisian flea market; we try an AI-powered skin analysis tool; Coors Light enters the beauty game; one of our listeners gives the…
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This episode is about so much more than makeup. Celebrity makeup artist and brand founder Laura Mercier shares the story of how she found her purpose and the lessons she learned along the way. We talk about her childhood in France; New York City in the 1990s; her work with Steven Meisel and clients like Madonna and Julia Roberts; the iconic makeup …
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Ep. 562: Celebrity Encounters, Sephora’s New Store Design & The Week’s Beauty News
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45:35Jenn & Julee share their latest beauty adventures: A variety show about bathing culture, meeting Ilana Glazer, and dinner with Dr. Augustinus Bader. Plus: Sephora’s store redesign and new Hulu series; research showing how age affects the way we feel about our beauty products; the scientist turning fatbergs into fragrance; the Beauty Together coalit…
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Skincare Supplements & How Diet Affects Beauty with Dr. Rajani Katta
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35:45Dermatologist Rajani Katta, MD, explains how vitamins are (and aren’t) regulated, how to judge the safety and efficacy of skincare supplements, and the truth about collagen powders, biotin, vitamin A, and other hair, skin, and nail vitamins. Plus, we learn how your diet affects your skin and hair, which supplements can alter results of medical test…
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Ep. 561: Bad Bridal Behavior, the Astro Facial & The Week’s Beauty News
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52:36A bride sparked debate online for washing off her makeup artist’s work, and Jess & Jenn think there’s something bigger going on. Let’s discuss! Plus: Jess’s facial that doubled as an astrology reading; Jenn’s chrome nails; Ariana Grande thanking Botox; Armani Beauty’s new spokesman; a scientist calls in to teach us about botanical oils in hair care…
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Beauty Trends in South Korea with Jenny Jin
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1:01:42Seoul-based beauty journalist Jenny Jin joins us with a full report on 2025 K-beauty trends and the latest in South Korean beauty culture. We’re talking about her favorite products at Olive Young; Ultherapy, Thermage, Rejuran (and the Skin Botox and Winback treatments she tried); Chahong’s hair perfume; 5X5 Nail Studio; and the Miffy nails she got …
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Ep. 560: The Pantene Urban Legend, Facelifts & 2025 Beauty Predictions
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52:11Jess & Jenn are talking about “one and done” facelifts, makeup with personality (is Messy Girl the new Clean Girl?), skin tightening, the Lyma at-home laser, the next big fragrance trends, new beauty newsletters, the urban legend that Pantene is bad for hair—and how Alix Earle may have finally put it to rest. Episode recap with links: fatmascara.co…
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Best of FM: Anastasia Soare of Anastasia Beverly Hills
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25:35The founder of the Anastasia Beverly Hills has plucked the eyebrows of Jennifer Lopez, Naomi Campbell, and Michelle Obama, but Anastasia Soare’s biggest success is her brand, which is estimated to be worth $500 million. In this interview (which originally aired in 2020), she tells us why she considers herself an example of the “American Dream” and …
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How to Shop for Skincare with Cosmetic Chemist Victoria Fu
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49:09Learn how to decode a cosmetic ingredient list, which skincare ingredients actually work, and how not to waste money on ineffective products in this interview with Victoria Fu, the co-founder of Chemist Confessions. Plus, she tells us about an AI-discovered molecule that improves skin elasticity and explains how social media causes skincare misinfo…
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Best of FM: How to Talk to Kids About Beauty with Makeup Artist Jamie Greenberg
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50:32In this interview (our most popular of 2024!), we talk to celebrity makeup artist Jamie Greenberg, a mom of three, about a timely topic: How young is too young for makeup and skincare? How can parents encourage self expression without glorifying consumerism? Should adults talk to kids about the downsides of plastic surgery and photo filters? Plus, …
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Candlemaker Louis Hotchkiss on The Secrets of His Craft
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36:56We’re lighting up the holiday season with candlemaker Louis Hotchkiss, the former president of KOBO candles. Here’s here to answer all our candle questions. Which wax burns the cleanest? How do containers, wicks, and fragrances affect burn rate? Why do some wick tips form a mushroom shape after they burn? How can you tell if a candle with have a go…
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It’s impossible to listen to Nikki Nelms share her story and not be inspired! The celebrity hairstylist—who’s worked with Beyoncé, Bjork, Janelle Monáe, and others—explains why she doesn’t need mood boards to create hair magic and never “looks to the side” for her ideas. She talks about how she got her start styling hair, the surprising tools and a…
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The Annual Naughty & Nice (But, But, But!) Special
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50:45Jenn & Jess reveal the year’s biggest moments in beauty culture—what we loved (nice), hated (naughty) and loved and hated with caveats (but, but, but!). We’re talking about contrast makeup theory; Pantone’s next color of the year; the beauty industry’s use of artificial intelligence; the TikTokification of makeup trends; everybody’s obsession with …
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The Dark Prince of Perfumery with Douglas Little
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59:47Creative director Douglas Little, the perfumer and founder of Heretic Parfums, explains how he taps into his shadow self to fuel creativity. He tells us how the new Nosferatu perfume came to be and shares stories from his collaborations with Gwyneth Paltrow and Dita Von Teese, the lessons he learned from the folding of his first brand, D.L. & Compa…
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Ep. 559: “Undetectable” Plastic Surgery, Filler Below The Belt & The Week’s Beauty News
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52:06There’s so much happening in cosmetic surgery for Jenn & Garrett to discuss: Lindsay Lohan’s new face; politicians getting work done; labia puffs; penis filler; and all the new ways to stop aging (and whether or not to partake or disclose). We also do a live fragrance test of Harry’s new Tamalpais cologne and keep the holiday-candle conversation go…
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The Future of Cosmetic Formulation with Chemist AJ Addae
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58:07Cosmetic chemist AJ Addae is the founder of Sula Labs, a company that helps beauty brands develop and test products and ingredients for melanin-rich consumers. She’s here to share her story and talk about the future of sunscreen and clean beauty, how bias affects scientific research, the difference between cosmetics and drugs, exosomes, vitamin C, …
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Ep. 558: Dating with Pheromones, Migraine Marketing & The Week’s Beauty News
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43:13Jess & Jenn are intrigued by the growing interest in pheromone perfumes. Could they help people find love? Hmm. Plus: L’Oréal’s Louvre tour; investment and acquisition news from Jess’s Business Desk; a rise in products designed to help people who get migraines (aka, migraneurs!); faux candles that don’t look fake; and the anti-frizz treatment spray…
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Makeup for “Older” Women with Sonia Ramos
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49:25Content creator @officiallysoniaramos calls herself a “mature lady” (lol, she’s 46), but her makeup tips work for Gen Z, Boomers, and everybody in between. She explains how (and why) she let her gray hair grow in at 35, why everybody’s getting their concealer wrong, where to put your blush, the power of the double cleanse, and how to look less tire…
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Ep. 557: Wicked Nails, Botanical Oils & The Week’s Beauty News
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47:41Jenn & Julee are in the holiday spirit! Let’s talk about which botanical oils are best for your hair type; why Dax Shepard thought it was okay to ask Cynthia Erivo a *very* personal question about her long nails; the huge rise in applications for dermatology residencies; and which candle says “I’m feeling the holiday season” best. Plus, we raise wa…
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Exploring Nostalgia, Fragrance, and Literature with Professor Perfume
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48:13Cozy up and get ready to feel all the feels with Emelia O’Toole, aka @professorperfume, who talks about the connection between literature, longing, and perfumery. She and Jenn tease out why nostalgia feels so good, and chat about books, scent memories, the romance of weddings and honeymoons, Dracula, One Direction, and fragrances inspired by chess,…
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Ep. 556: Doom Shopping, The Chypre Story & The Week’s Beauty News
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39:40Jenn & Jess share insider beauty gossip, dig into why people are doom shopping, discuss Bobbi Brown’s move into home goods, and dream of attending the Hair Freezing Contest. After that, Jenn shares the inside story on chypre and amber fragrances—direct from Coty perfume historians in Paris—and we raise wands to meaningful beauty gifts, the new beau…
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What VC Investors In Beauty Look For With Cristina Nuñez
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51:28As the co-founder and general partner of True Beauty Ventures, venture capital investor Cristina Nuñez is an industry talent scout, trend spotter, and brand builder all wrapped into one. Her company's portfolio includes K18, Sofie Pavitt Face, Vacation, Iris&Romeo, and many other beauty brands you know and love. In this interview, she offers amazin…
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Ep. 555: Beauty Inflation, the Best Facials In NYC & The Week’s Beauty News
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49:39The $42 price tag on Patrick Ta’s new eyeshadow duo annoyed many in the beauty community, and we’re digging into why that might be. Have we been conditioned by the implied value of larger palettes? Is it general inflation anger? Dupe culture? Jenn & Garret discuss. Plus: An unprecedented counterfeit Botox scam; needles for cosmetic injections defor…
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We’re kicking off the holiday season with Tory Burch: entrepreneur, philanthropist, designer (of Kamala Harris’s concession speech suit, FWIW), and an official member of the beauty community since her expansion into fragrance two years ago, when this interview first aired. We talk about how to take the pressure off decorating and planning for the h…
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Ep. 554: Monetizing Beauty Waste, Sleep Retreats & The Week’s Beauty News
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37:21It’s a fun and freewheeling episode with Jess & Jenn. The big topic: Why do some beauty brands send their products to D.I.F. (destroy in field) programs? Jess explains and talks about a business model that could be less wasteful. Plus: The succession game is over at Estée Lauder Companies; there's a new Nosferatu perfume; we're contemplating sleep …
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The Intersection of Beauty and Pop Culture with The Polyester Podcast
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55:53If you aren’t familiar with Ione Gamble and Gina Tonic, then you’re about to meet your British best friends. The hosts of The Polyester Podcast join Jenn and Jess for a fun and wide-ranging chat about the beauty discourse, including makeup microtrends, music fandom, The Real Lives of Mormon Wives, Victoria’s Secret, In Vogue: The 90s, underconsumpt…
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Ep. 553: Celebrity Veneers, Influencer Gifting & The Week’s Beauty News
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50:29Jenn and Julee catch up on all the latest in beauty, from hair care for 10-year-old boys to why Jenn’s facial mist is the Nicole Scherzinger of skincare. We’re also talking about beauty brands with questionable influencer-marketing strategies; why Paullie Skin founder Anna Paul is hiding luxury gifts in customer orders; whether celebrity veneers ar…
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