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Beyond the Vow

Nicholas and Janelle Lavender

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Welcome to Beyond the Vow! Beyond the Vow is hosted by Nick and Janelle Lavender and focuses on religious and marital topics. We delve into the ups and downs, the twists and turns, the victories, the struggles, and everything that a couple may encounter as they journey through life and faith together. Habits will be tested, boundaries will be stretched, views will be analyzed, and compromises have to be made. All this and MORE as we go "Beyond the Vow!" You can find us on Facebook by simply ...
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1. Sharlene-Monique - Of Love (Piano & Voice) 2. Jaz Karis - Home 3. Cassandra Shade - Don't Change 4. Tamesy - Of you 5. Aleksa Safiya - Understand Me 6. Lauren Tuchscherer - You Make Me 7. Fortune - Fake Love 8. Alduts Sherdley - Swipe Right 9. Karmessa - Game X 10. Tambourine - Unequally Yoked 11. Anna Speer - Cuffing Szn 12. Stalk Ashley - Complicated 13. Yasz Base - Anoymous Drerrie 14. Marzz - KMS. 15. Niqueaux - Love You Down 16. Kazé - Love ain't enough 17. Makaela - Be Careful 18. A ...
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In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle kick off a new series called "Cult Profiles". In this series, we begin by looking at the "Church of God (Restoration)" and its leader, Ray Tinsman. We analyze their beliefs and compare them to the word of God. Is it a cult? You will be shocked by some of their teachings.…
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Did you know that if you attend a church other than a Holiness church, you won't grow and will backslide? In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss comments made by various ministers at the Preacher/Laymen convention held by the ICHA (International Conservative Holiness Association) this week. We cover this and other comments that…
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In this episode of "Beyond the Vow", Nick and Janelle analyze what our Godly heritage consists of. Is it biblical or is it burdened with the personal convictions of man? Will we be cursed if we "move the old landmarks"? We listen to sermons by Judy Williams and Archie Atwell, as we compare them with scripture to better understand our true biblical …
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In this 50th episode of "Beyond the Vow", Nick and Janelle discuss recent comments by Rev. James Plank concerning those who have backslidden from the Conservative Holiness Movement. We also compare these comments with scripture to see if they hold true and discuss the importance of preaching Biblical doctrine vs Personal conviction.…
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In this 48th episode of "Beyond the Vow", Nick and Janelle discuss the doctrine of Sanctification. We look back on the words of John Wesley, and W.B. Godbey, as well as recent sermons, and articles on the subject from Josh Davis (Future Pastors Conference), GBS President Rodney Loper, and GBS Professor Phillip Brown. Is the Thunder and lightning ex…
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In this 42nd episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss the problem of Narcissists who are in positions of leadership within the church. Immense damage can be done by these individuals leading to the abuse of the congregation as well as the destruction of the church in some cases. Can we identify these individuals, what makes them so preva…
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In this 39th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle examine some of the thought processes behind the ban on wedding rings within the Conservative Holiness Movement (CHM). The ring has been a point of contention. We examine a book by Dr. Dale Yocum, "On Pleasing the Heavenly Bridegroom," and its influence on some of the thinking behind the stan…
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In this 38th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle talk about some of the subjects being taught within the public school system, including ideas concerning Transgender identity, as well as other LGBTQ ideas even being taught in some kindergartens. We look at what the Bible says about these topics and how these issues led up to the flood in Ge…
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In this 37th episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss an article written by Pastor Peter Jones and his theory that Conservative women may not necessarily be living as God intended them to live. He presents the idea that they can be deceptive by presenting a false image of humility and submission to the public, but at home, in private, th…
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In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss how worship in the early church compares to the modern day as well as some really strange incidents that have taken place in recent services, all under the umbrella of "worship." Are these true expressions of the movement of the Holy Spirit, or is it manipulation and, in some situations, a…
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In this 30th episode of "Beyond the Vow", Nick and Janelle discuss how our responses serve as a way of teaching our kids and others, how to react to situations in work, marriage, the church, and life in general. What if we find ourselves in a certain place, but wish for something else? Do we panic? Do we get angry? Do we find a solution? Do we allo…
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In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle examine Bethel Church and the Word of Faith Movement or as its also known, "The New Apostolic Reformation". We examine the affiliation that Bethel Church has with the Word of Faith Movement and how the Word of Faith Movement was founded. We also discuss some of the music that Bethel produces. If t…
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In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss "Heart talks to Girls" a book written by Julia Shelhamer around the 1930's. This book has played a part in providing an idea of what an early understanding of sex for girls was like within the conservative holiness movement (CHM) and the lasting influence that this book and others like it,…
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In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle dig a bit deeper into some of the claims that E. E. Shelhamer made in his book, "Heart Talks to Boys" (which we covered in our last episode). Along the way we discuss his claim concerning 100,000 boys being sent to the insane asylum annually, as well as some of the documented early claims for why …
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In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle discuss "Heart talks to Boys" a book written by E.E. Shelhamer around the 1930's. This book has played a part in providing an idea of what an early understanding of sex was like within the conservative holiness movement (CHM) and the lasting influence that this book and others like it, have had to…
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In this episode of Beyond the Vow, Nick and Janelle examine the effects of emotional trauma. The three areas we discuss are the home, personal relationships and the church with a focus on the Conservative Holiness Movement (CHM). Are we able to overcome this trauma and is Satan using this trauma to hinder our potential as Christians? We discuss thi…
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