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In the book, Creating Belonging: A Practical Guide to Accelerate Belonging in Organizations and Communities, Justin Reinert describes a model where belonging sits at the intersection of authenticity and acceptance. In The Creating Belonging Podcast, host Justin Reinert will continue the conversation of creating belonging by discussing others' experiences when they've been at various levels of authenticity and acceptance in their communities. Our goal with this podcast will be to help others ...
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A music podcast about songwriting, albums, and whatnot hosted by Justin Cox. Seasons about Bright Eyes, Jackson Browne, and Against Me! are in this feed, plus other interviews. Support: patreon.com/afterthedeluge Follow: twitter.com/routinelayup Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/afterthedeluge/support
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Ever wondered why some teams flourish under certain bosses while others flounder? Corporate relationship expert Tony Chatman joins us to peel back the layers on how value and respect are cornerstones in creating that coveted sense of belonging within teams. Tony shares his invaluable insights on relationship-based leadership, emphasizing its impact…
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Miranda Reinert is a writer, podcaster and zine maker. We talk about making a full-on magazine, Jimmy Montague/Taking Meds, getting ideas out of your head and into the world, The End of Merch?, your double-knee Carhartts are a social signifier, creating something that lasts, tangibility, Grace Robins-Somerville on Hole’s Live Through This, what are…
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The vibrant streets of Chicago have sculpted a unique narrative for Jim Conti, Talent Partner at Hyde Park Venture Partners, who joins us to weave a tale of personal growth and professional reinvention. From the comfort of familiar neighborhoods to the strategic boardrooms of venture capital, Jim unpacks how his cherished roles as a community advoc…
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Do artists get worse with age or can they get more interesting? Behold the Jokermen Mindset. Ian and Evan of the Jokermen podcast and I talk about approaching music with an empty head, Dylan’s Philosophy of Modern Song, when artists DO just get shittier with age, Albini & Steely Dan, what song would a group of Canadian bachelor party bros sing toge…
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Ever felt like the odds were stacked against you? Michael Stein's incredible journey from underdog to entrepreneur extraordinaire will convince you that anything is possible with resilience and humor. In our latest episode, Michael pulls back the curtain on his life, revealing a story that begins with his family's fight against adversity and stretc…
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This one's not like the others. It's four pals in a room doing an Against Me! song draft while drinking Rainiers and eating junk. It's dumb and wonderful and only on Patreon: patreon.com/afterthedeluge -- Guests: Ryan Page, RJ Myers, Matt Helms, Justin Cox (me) --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/afterthedeluge/support…
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Discover the art of genuine communication and the essence of belonging with Kim Clark, a communication strategist and author who navigates the complex interplay of identity with a deft touch. As a white, cisgender woman with Native American roots, a proud member of the LGBTQ+ community, and a mother to children with disabilities, Kim challenges us …
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Have you ever walked into a room and felt like you didn't quite fit in? Imagine that sensation lingering, day in and day out, in your workplace. Geoffrey Roche from Siemens Healthineers joins us to unearth the complex layers of leadership and its profound effect on nurturing a sense of belonging at work. We traverse the landscape of workforce devel…
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Have you ever found yourself trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, particularly in the workplace? Tami Chapek, an executive leadership coach and the founder of We Inspire We, joins me to unravel the complexities of staying true to oneself amid the pressures of conformity, especially as a woman in the cutthroat marketing and advertising indu…
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Laura Jane Grace is the songwriter behind Against Me! We discuss meaningless songs, the 7-hour Beatles documentary, she quit horoscopes, big life changes, Travis Barker on Rick Rubin, Operation Ivy reunion vs. Fugazi reunion, hoarding guitars, “Fit But You Know It” by The Streets, Butch Vig gave Laura homework, Franz Ferdinand-core, bitching about …
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When I stepped into the vibrant world of an NGLCC conference, I didn't just find opportunities—I discovered a family. This episode brings you the voice of Justin Nelson, co-founder and president of the National LGBT Chamber of Commerce. We journey through the organization's history, its transformative rebranding, and the ways it propels the economi…
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Jordan Kleeman started Crasshole Records as a teenager and put out several early Against Me! EPs including this legendary self-titled 12” record. We talk about the first version of “Walking is Still Honest,” why this beautiful record sounds like shit, a decade of touring with Against Me!, and holding down that synth-key note on “8 Hours of Full Sle…
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As we grapple with the intricacies of forging genuinely inclusive spaces, Nancy Lyons, a tech innovator and staunch advocate for workplace diversity, lends her voice to our latest conversation. With Nancy at the helm of Clockwork and Tempo, her journey as a queer woman carving out a progressive company culture is both inspiring and instructive. Her…
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Have you ever found yourself donning a mask just to blend in with the crowd, suppressing your true self for the sake of acceptance? Our latest episode invites you into the world of Alex Draper, CEO and founder of DX, who shares his transformative voyage from an English village to the bustling streets of Chicago. Alex's tale is not just about geogra…
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Have you ever stepped into a room and felt like you didn't quite belong? Tre Cabrera, founder of Cabrera Advisory Group LLC, knows that sensation all too well, and she's devoted her career to transforming it. In our latest episode, we peel back the layers of diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging (DEIB) with Tre, a black woman who has carved h…
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Have you ever felt like an outsider in your own life, hiding behind a mask for fear of not fitting in? Our guest, Rick Clemens, knows this struggle all too well, but he's turned his quest for belonging into a beacon of hope for others. Join us as Rick, a gay dad and entrepreneur, shares his poignant journey from concealing his true self to becoming…
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Casey Plett is an author from Canada. We talk about coming out in a Rolling Stone article, dissecting The Ocean, seeing Against Me! In Winnipeg on the Transgender Dysphoria Blues tour, low-key gesturing back to Reinventing Axl Rose w/ those first snare hits, the novel “Nevada” by Imogen Binnie, “Rough surf on the coast, I wish I could have spent th…
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When the pages of "Creating Belonging" came to life during our inaugural podcast season, I uncovered a tapestry of diverse human stories that not only enriched our dialogue but also unexpectedly deepened my own understanding of belonging. Reflect with us as we revisit the high points and transformative conversations with incredible guests who lent …
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Steak Mtn (Christopher Norris) did the art for several Against Me! records including this one. We talk about the album White Crosses, the revolution being a lie, collaborating on art with Laura, Christopher's not a fan of anarcho-bucket music, getting that Warner Bros. money, this album has sheen but it also has teeth, the iconic Transgender Dyspho…
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Ben Lee is a musician from Australia now in LA. We talk about New Wave, having his mind blown on a flight to Australia, trusting Tegan and Sara’s taste, a punk-rock duet, why Ben covered this record, the music industry changes so why resist it, would you take the Hyundai sponsorship, would you open for Maroon 5?, New Wave is a historical document, …
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Keegan Bradford (⁠@franziamom⁠) plays in Camp Trash and writes about music online. We talk about Against Me!’s Searching for a Former Clarity, folk-punk being out of fashion, Algernon Cadwallader as a fictional band, hostile fanbases, Florida geography and scene dynamics, the best record ever about arguing on the internet, AM!’s miserable ascent, L…
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This week we go to the movies. I'm joined by Dan Bassini and Andrew Valentine of the Run into the Ground podcast to talk about the 2004 Against Me! tour documentary We're Never Going Home, which sees the band getting courted by major labels and fucking with their fellow touring bands. Plus Asbury Park, depressing East Coast beaches, and iconic venu…
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Ryan Page plays in the band Bad Dads. We talk about being a message-board kid, bands as bumper stickers, lying to Fat Mike, “whoas,” major labels swooping in, Ardent Studios, not getting sick of the Eternal Cowboy songs, y’all overpraised the Tim remaster, spinning this CD thrice in a row, we revisit the Axl snare sound, I say “chuckles” a half-doz…
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Austin Lucas is a musician whose latest album is called Reinventing Against Me! We talk about being crust-adjacent, Austin’s path from hardcore to country, The Go-Gos, the Axl cover, live-streaming through the early pandemic, "Oh Donna," knocking out a record in two days, John Mellencamp’s background singer, that snare drum tone, St. Anger, Fall Ou…
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Crime as Forgiven By Against Me! was released in 2001 and followed that same year by the band's self-titled acoustic EP. Frank Turner is a musician from England. He joined us from his studio while working on his next album. We talk about knocking out records, Alternative Press, diagonal haircuts, gatekeeping subgenres of emo, Frank was a few high s…
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Season 3 of After the Deluge will go album by album through the Against Me! discography with a new guest each week, starting with their early days in Gainesville followed by records released on No Idea and Fat Wreck Chords before signing to a major label deal. And all of that comes well before the release of Transgender Dysphoria Blues--a significa…
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I talked to Dan Ozzi, author of the book Sellout, about his recent Fader piece about The Armed—a band/collective/cult from Detroit. We jump from there into early 2010s music writing, hearing new music as you get old, editing Noisey in the early 2010s, getting nostalgic about Chumped, media now vs. media then, when the label or publisher asks you to…
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Ever wondered what it truly means to belong and be authentic at work? Let's unpack this together! In our season finale, we bring back Veronica Rivero, Lauren Glazin, and Britt Andreatta where we uncovered the nuances of the Creating Belonging model and its four different areas. Veronica shared her perspective on how authenticity can change and evol…
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How did the challenges of a tumultuous childhood lead to a journey of healing, finding purpose, and creating a sense of belonging? Join us as we pick back up our conversation with Britt Andreatta about her inspiring story, exploring the power of resilience and overcoming adversity through the comfort of her cats, academic success, and connecting wi…
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What happens when you combine an honest conversation about identity, belonging, and society's expectations with a dash of personal experience? You get an insightful and thought-provoking episode featuring my long-time friend, Dr. Britt Andreata, CEO of Brain Aware Training and author of books on the brain science of success. As a white woman, marri…
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Are you ready to challenge your ideas about professionalism and gender in the workplace? Join us as we sit down with the insightful Vanessa Sheridan to discuss transgender inclusion and the concept of gender authenticity. Vanessa helps us understand how embracing acceptance and understanding within the workplace can lead to increased productivity, …
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Tim Kasher returns for a special episode about The Good Life’s Album of the Year. We talk about Zooming with Conor Oberst on bad wifi, his upcoming tour, his high school band March Hares opening for 311, Tim’s Red Hot Chili Peppers horoscope theory, Inmates, early 2000s Saddle Creek albums about substances, Cursive, debauchery and heartache, Tim lo…
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What happens when you embrace your authentic self in the workplace? Join us as we sit down with Vanessa Sheridan, a globally recognized transgender workplace expert to discuss her inspiring journey to self-acceptance and the power of being genuine in our complex, changing world. Vanessa highlights the recent attacks on the trans community and empha…
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On this episode, Kendra LeFleur joins us. Kendra is a Partner at Carr Riggs & Ingram CPA’s and Advisors. We discuss how Kendra found her way in the corporate world, and how much she appreciates getting to know others’ perspectives. One of the causes we discuss toward the end is the work that Kendra does with Girls on the Run Atlanta, check them out…
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This was such a fun conversation! Tune in to hear about Lauren's blonde identity. We talk religion and sexuality and how the two mix. You can order your copy of Creating Belonging on Amazon. Music: Wave by Helkimer | https://soundcloud.com/helkimer Music promoted by https://www.free-stock-music.com Creative Commons / Attribution 3.0 Unported Licens…
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In this episode we discuss Veronica's experience moving from Lima, Peru, attending Notre Dame, and getting comfortable with her identity as a Latina in sales. You can find Veronica Rivero here on LinkedIn or Instagram, and for those in the near north suburbs of Chicago, look out for Fajita Pete's coming soon! Article: Fajita Pete's Opens Five Store…
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What does your voice say about your identities? In this episode, we talk about the relationship between how our voice sounds and our identities. We explore how the pandemic drove division, and the impact of media on the stereotypes we hold for different races and identities. Our guest, Brittany William is a vivacious employer brand lead, spending p…
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I talk to Conor Oberst of Bright Eyes about Jackson Browne, emo, being a child among the Saddle Creek teens, showing ambition in a slacker scene, Pitchfork reviews, a wild story behind “Soul Singer in a Session Band," his songs making sense to him but maybe not to you, Conor’s media diet, listening to audiobooks about feathers, do people pay too mu…
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Representation is important, toward the end of our conversation Al tells a time when an executive once said to him: “If I could ask you a favor, next time you’re in an event like this and you come across someone who looks like you did at the beginning of this event, please do what you can to make them feel like they belong.” We also dig into self-a…
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It wasn't until after he moved to a new country and others started asking how to pronounce his name that Michal realized others might find it important. In the first portion, we talk about respectful pronunciation of names, and if we can extend this respectful use to names - why not pronouns as well? When it comes to team building, some think the p…
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In this first episode, Justin introduces the Creating Belonging model and a bit of the story behind its creation. The Four Areas of the Creating Belonging model: Recluse: We are withdrawn from the community. We mask much of our own identity and don’t respect or appreciate others’ identities. Overbearing: We only respect our own identities and value…
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On this special episode we talk about non-Bright Eyes Conor Oberst projects over the last 25 years. I’m joined by Maddy, Michael, Rina, Greg, Justin and Per (Patreon supporters of this show ☺️) for a sprawling conversation about Oberst's solo records and side projects. There are many! For PART 2 (+ VIDEO) hit up patreon.com/afterthedeluge -- Here’s…
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Marc Hogan is a senior staff writer at Pitchfork and he wrote the review of the Bright Eyes record Down in the Weeds, Where the World Once Was. In this episode we talk about a difficult decade for Conor Oberst, Audiogalaxy, patience with late-career albums, 2013’s false rape allegations, being Conor’s same age, Red Hot Chili Peppers, dropping a rec…
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Ben Dolnick is the author of four novels including The Ghost Notebooks, You Know Who You Are, and At the Bottom of Everything. He wrote this 2011 Bright Eyes essay in The Awl: https://www.theawl.com/2011/01/taste-has-never-met-shame-i-love-you-conor-oberst/ This episode features an excellent audio essay from Dominic Ronzani about why The People's K…
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Today we have two Bright Eyes scholars (and Patreon supporters 🥰) who truly know their shit. Pardon the slightly click-bait headline... but Per Davidson and Justin Corwin take us on a tour of some great non-album Bright Eyes tracks from splits, EPs and YouTube rarities. All six of these songs are great upon first listen, but they go up several notc…
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HEAR THIS FULL EPISODE: PATREON.COM/AFTERTHEDELUGE⁠ Brian Howe is a music, arts and culture critic for Pitchfork and many other outlets. Evan Bailey sings and plays guitar in the band Oh, Lonesome Ana. We talk about the Bright Eyes record Cassadaga, experimental album art, mysticism, fiddles, Brian discovering Fevers & Mirrors, meaning outside of r…
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Today we talk about a bizarre phenomenon atop the Bright Eyes Spotify page. In this episode we talk about the fact that I’m Wide Awake it’s Morning occupies every spot in the Top 5 of the Bright Eyes Spotify page. My guest is Ryan Page of Bad Dads and the Beatles vs. Stones podcast. (Full disclosure: I’m a member of both). The bulk of this episode …
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Michael Tedder is culture writer who's written for Stereogum, The Ringer, Esquire, Uproxx and many more. We talk about early 2000s Bright Eyes shows in Florida, war, emo-bashing, making a 70s record, flawed voices, Conor writes his big hit, Saddle Creek 50, Michael’s coffee mug, Top-3 Saddest Horn Parts in Indie Rock History, Sufjan Stevens, Michae…
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