Think of all the things you wouldn’t expect a Managing Director to say. This podcast is all about sharing those thoughts. Katy Leeson is the Managing Director of Social Chain, one of the fastest growing social media marketing agencies in the world. This podcast is an honest and frank dive into working life, but also highlights the importance of life outside of work. With an array of guests that are exceptionally open about their experiences and a feature from a fantastic therapist to help un ...
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S5 Ep15: Katy Leeson is Leaving the Building
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I Shouldn’t Say This, But … this podcast has taught me more than I could have ever imagined. And this episode is going to be my last. At least for a while. When I started the podcast 4 years ago, I couldn’t have imagined the journey it would take me on, the conversations it would generate or the relationships it would help me foster. Steven Bartlet…
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S5 Ep14: We are all influencers: Natalie Wills
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Natalie Wills is the Global Director of Marketing at Zalando and a fellow advocate for the power of social media for good. In this episode, we discuss: - The importance of authenticity online - Why we are all influencers - What we can learn from the way young people use social media - The importance of leading with your values - Zalando’s approach …
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S5 Ep13: Entrepreneurship, community and the joy of work: Matt Clements and Giles Harrison
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Matt and Giles founded Sculpd alongside their business partner Guy Vero at the peak of Lockdown, and have since sold over 100,000 at-home pottery kits. Beyond that, they’ve built partnerships with some of the most influential brands in the UK, including Bloom & Wild, Missoma and Papier. In this episode, we discuss: - The challenges that come with b…
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S5 Ep12: Creating Change & Communities with Social Media: Daisy Morris
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Daisy is the person behind The Selfhood - who makes digital interactions feel more human and puts connectivity at the heart of content strategies for brands and their audiences. She birthed The Selfhood after noticing a huge gap in the market for business owners and creatives to understand social media and digital marketing in a fun, human and rela…
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S5 Ep11: Social media's role in the mental health fight: James Routledge
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James Routledge co-founded Sanctus - a purpose-driven organisation that supports employee mental health through proactive and preventative one-to-one coaching in the workplace. He is also the author behind ‘Mental Health at Work’ - a book filled with stories, learnings and guidance for anyone on their mental health in the workplace journey. In this…
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S5 Ep10: The Anxiety Coach: Chloe Brotheridge
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Chloe Brotheridge is an Anxiety Hypnotherapist, Coach, Podcast Host and Author who is dedicated to helping women free themselves from anxiety. In this episode, we discuss: - The importance of distinguishing your dream from the one’s being pushed by other people - Tips for a more purposeful and positive social media experience - How we can combat ou…
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S5 Ep9: Social Media & Activism: Gina Martin
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Gina is an activist, author and artist who uses her platforms to encourage real-world change. In this episode, we discuss: - The uncomfortable reality of activism - The intersection of social media and activism - The importance of setting work/life boundaries - The changes social media companies need to start making - Young people’s relationship wi…
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Jay Flynn founded the Virtual Pub Quiz back at the start of the pandemic, and is living proof of the power of social media to be used for good. In this episode, we discuss: - Jay’s incredible journey from pub landlord to household name (and the social media mistake that started it all) - The challenges that have arisen as a result of digital stardo…
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S5 Ep7: Do I Have Productivity Dysmorphia? Anna Codrea-Rado
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Anna Codrea-Rado is a journalist, author and podcaster whose article ‘Do I have Productivity Dysmorphia?’ has changed they way both I and so many others view our achievements. In this episode, we discuss: * The impact social media is having on our view of success * The importance of finding joy in our free time * The productivity dysmorphia trap An…
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S5 Ep6: Social Media and Personal Branding: Ash Jones
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Ash is the Founder of personal branding agency Great Influence, and part of Social Chain’s founding team. The man behind the personal brands of the likes of Steven Bartlett and Julian Hearn, his experience and knowledge of social media as a tool for good is second to none. In this episode, we discuss: - The value in personal branding - The social m…
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S5 Ep5: Comparison Culture: Lucy Sheridan
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Lucy Sheridan is the world’s first and only comparison coach, using her work and the online community she has built to to empower others into live comparison free lives. In this episode, we discuss: - The role social media plays in fuelling comparison culture - The importance of getting to know your values - Defining your own success - Why leaders …
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S5 Ep4: Ending Online Abuse: Seyi Akiwowo
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Seyi Akiwowo is an absolute powerhouse. Through her charity Glitch, she is working hard to create a kinder, safer, more robust digital sphere. In turn, Seyi is empowering people to advocate for others whilst raising a generation of digital citizens who will carry these lessons into the future. In this episode, we discuss: - The online space as a co…
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S5 Ep3: The Importance of Authenticity: Gary Neville
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There’s no social media presence more authentic than Gary Neville’s. In this episode, we discuss: - The importance of Footballers having an authentic social media presence - THAT Manchester United interview - His hopes for the digital world his daughters are growing up in - Where the curriculum is failing young people - Why the Glazer family are a …
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S5 Ep2: Behinds the Scenes of Social Media: Alex Holmes
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Alex Holmes has dedicated his career to making both schools and the digital sphere a safe space for young people. Deputy CEO at the Diana Award and advisor to the likes of TikTok, Facebook, Twitter and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Alex’s knowledge of social media and the issues facing young people today is second to none. In this episode,…
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S5 Ep1: How to harness the power of YOU: Tiwalola Ogunlesi
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Tiwalola Ogunlesi is using her platform to fight the generation cycle of low self-esteem, making sure that this generation of women and girls grow to be the most confident yet. In this episode, we discuss: - How to harness the power of you - Tips for improving your self-confidence, combatting imposter syndrome and getting to grips with your self-wo…
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I Shouldn’t Say This, But … Season 5 is coming VERY soon. With each episode featuring a brand new guest, it’s set to be our biggest and best yet! I can’t wait to share the first one.By Katy Leeson
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S4 Ep25: I Shouldn’t Say This, But…your side hustle could change your life.
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In this week’s episode, I talk to the wonderful Elizabeth Ogabi about the realities of creating your own side hustle, the significance of long-term vision in setting work/life boundaries and her fantastic new book ‘Side Hustle in Progress: A Practical Guide to Kickstarting Your Business.’ It was really interesting to get the other side of the debat…
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S4 Ep24: I Shouldn’t Say This, But … Leaders need to be honest about the fact they don't know everything
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In this week’s episode, I dive into the realities of leadership. I talk about the difficulties that come with leading a team through a pandemic, the silent struggle of perfection and the pressure I personally feel to deliver for my team. There is a false sense of expertise surrounding leadership roles and it is a huge contributing factor to the pro…
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S4 Ep23: I shouldn’t say this, but … I’ve been suffering with chronic pain since the age of 18.
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In this week’s episode, I speak to the brilliant Rachel Carrell, founder of Koru Kids. We have a really candid conversation about the realities of living with chronic pain and the desire people have to hide their struggles. We also dive into Rachel’s fantastic business, looking at childcare as a people issue, not just a women’s issue, in addition t…
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S4 Ep22: I Shouldn’t Say This, But…we can make social media a positive place.
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In this week’s episode, I dive into the positive side of social platforms. There are some obvious issues that need to be addressed across them all. Namely issues of trolling and abuse, which need to be dealt with quickly and with severity. But I’m not sure that it’s productive to let these issues dominate the conversation. I explore the idea that t…
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S4 Ep21: I shouldn’t say this, but … taking a personal step back allows the mission to move several steps forward.
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In this week’s episode, I speak to the fantastic Jamie Crummie; co-founder and director of the amazing Too Good To Go. We talk about everything from the value in detaching yourself from your ego when building a business and team, to the role of education in changing the culture of food waste in the UK and being proactive in your passions and the is…
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S4 Ep20: I Shouldn’t Say This, But … leadership often comes at the expense of creativity.
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In this week’s episode, I take a look at the way our brains change as we move into adulthood, and the impact this has on our creativity. I talk about my own experience of this and the way this change is mirrored as we move up in our careers. I also raise some big questions, like can you move forward in your career without becoming a manager? Do we …
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S4 Ep19: I shouldn’t say this but...I have to work at finding balance - every day
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In this week’s episode, I speak to the fabulous Emma Heal; Managing Director of alcohol free brand, Lucky Saint. We talk about her incredible career history, the importance of fitting your own life jacket first and how Emma perceives the role of Managing Director. We also take a look at why “I’m not drinking tonight” is becoming a more accepted sta…
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S4 Ep18: I Shouldn’t Say This But … I used my anti-depressants as a crutch.
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In this episode, I talk candidly about my experience with situational depression and the journey I’ve been on with anti-depressants. I discuss how it felt first being prescribed them, right through to how it feels now that I’m coming off them, as well as the importance of doing so effectively. The past two years have been hard, but I’m coming out t…
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S4 Ep17: I Shouldn’t Say This, But...I’m Struggling To Take My Own Advice.
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Cate Sevilla is my spirit animal. In this episode we talk about Cate’s journey through huge companies, including Google, and how she came to write her incredible book, ‘How to Work Without Losing Your Mind’. We touch on the role that companies play in supporting us, and why it might not be what you think, alongside the right way to raise issues wit…
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S4 Ep16: I Shouldn't Say This, But...my brain crashed.
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In this episode I talk to High Performance Expert & Psychiatrist, Dr T. We start this amazing conversation with WHY - why we’re both invested in preventing burnout and helping deal with crisis’. We also talk about how we both deal with being people pleasers but the positives this has brought to both our lives. Finally, we look at how restriction, c…
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S4 Ep15: I Shouldn’t Say This, But…sometimes I think, "what would I do if I were a man?"
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In this episode I speak to the wonderful Tessa Clarke from OLIO - an app that exists to prevent food waste by connecting people. We have a very honest conversation about what it was like raising millions in investment for the business as a woman, we explore how important having a diverse business is and what it’s really like being a startup founder…
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S4 Ep14: I Shouldn’t Say This, But…I don’t want to work at home forever.
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The office vs WFH debate continues. In this episode, I talk about which companies are in which camp when it comes to where and how they want to work. I also talk about what model we’re looking to implement at Social Chain but why, in reality, everyone’s working model should be different. We’re joined again by our podcast therapist, Karen, and we di…
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S4 Ep13: I Shouldn't Say This, But...My Ambition Can Be Toxic
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If you're looking for some guidance on your own personal development, this is the episode for you. This week's podcast is with the amazing @Alice ter Haar and Alice shares an amazing realisation - what she thought she wanted wasn't ACTUALLY what she wanted, and how she built her business, Badass Unicorn, because of it. We unpack her career journey …
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S4 Ep12: I Shouldn’t Say This, But…stop telling me everything ‘will be fine’.
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There are over 100 million #goodvibes posts on Instagram alone. But how much positivity is too much? We’re often met with ‘everything will be fine’ and ‘it could be worse’ when we express feelings of sadness, but sometimes this has the opposite of a positive effect. Joined by our podcast therapist, Karen, we dive into the impact that toxic positivi…
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S4 Ep11: I Shouldn’t Say This, But…I’m scared of setting boundaries.
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I’m rubbish at setting boundaries outside of work. Inside work, I find myself setting boundaries all the time. In this episode, I talk about why boundaries are so important in BOTH settings. I unpack the role that boundaries play in protecting our mental health and share my experiences and mishaps with setting boundaries for myself. Karen, our podc…
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S4 Ep10: Stefanie Sword-Williams - F*ck Being Humble
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Self-promotion. It’s not an easy thing to do. We all struggle with it. But how do we overcome that fear of putting ourselves out there? That’s exactly what we discuss in this episode. Stefanie has an impressive and interesting history and shares with us why she’s done with tiptoeing around talking about success. We cover everything from the reason …
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S4 Ep9: I Shouldn’t Say This, But…Lockdown Has Changed Me, For The Better.
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This is an episode of self-reflection. I look back over the past year since the first lockdown began and talk about the whirlwind that’s happened since then. Everything from coping with living on my own, to hugging my mum for the first time. From lockdown relationships, to navigating a business through this absolute whirlwind of a year. I also spea…
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S4 Ep8: Hector Hughes & Unplugged - How To Fall Off The Grid
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This is an episode that you don’t want to miss. I am joined by one of the most interesting guests, Hector Hughes. Hector is co-founder of Unplugged, a business that’s focused entirely around digital detoxes at cabins in the countryside, allowing you to fall completely off the grid. No phones, no screens, no social media…In this episode, we talk all…
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S4 Ep7: I Shouldn't Say This But, Leadership is a double edged sword'
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Those in leadership positions take on the responsibility of running a business and turning into a success, but often a large portion of hidden responsibility comes with it. One of the most prevalent topics at the moment is being an empathetic leader BUT who is there to help the ones who help others? I’ll be talking about my own experiences with thi…
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S4 Ep6: Harriet O’Regan & Arla Foods - Working for a global corporation & having dinner with your kids.
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On this week’s episode, I’m joined by Harriet O’Regan - the Category Director at Arla Foods, the largest producer of dairy products in Scandinavia. We talk about everything from Harriet’s feelings towards working within the organic industry, to what it was like as the first working mom on the team at Arla and how she’s coped with homeschooling duri…
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S4 Ep5: I Shouldn’t Say This, But…Comparing Myself Was The Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done
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This week’s podcast episode is all about comparison - something I’m sure many of us have struggled with at some point in our lives. In this episode, I really wanted to uncover exactly why we do it and also how to stop it. I also talk about my own experience with comparison and about how it caused one of the most difficult periods of my life. Our ow…
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S4 Ep4: The Modern Nursery: How my business became my third child
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This week we sit down with Laura from the UK’s leading independent store for kids, The Modern Nursery. We talk about everything from how Laura started the company when she fell pregnant after a successful career in high fashion, how important influencers have been to the success of the business, to navigating working from home whilst homeschooling …
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S4 Ep3: I Shouldn’t Say This, But We Need to Be More Compassionate
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Compassion. Something we’ve all heard over and over again in the past few months. On this week’s episode, I wanted to explore compassion a little further. What actually is it? What are the benefits of doing it? How do we get better at it? What’s the importance of self-compassion? These are all questions we dig into this week. I’m also joined by a v…
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S4 Ep2: Feel Good Club: Opening a coffee shop during a pandemic was a good idea.
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On this week's very special episode of I Shouldn't Say This But, I am joined by 2 great friends Kiera and Aimie from the amazing Feel Good Club. Feel Good Club is a wonderful mental-health and wellbeing community that has recently opened a cafe based in the Northern Quarter in Manchester. I’ll be talking to them both about how they’ve gotten to whe…
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S4 Ep1: I Shouldn’t Say This, But You Won’t Keep Your New Year’s Resolutions
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We’re back with our first podcast of the year and we’re talking all things New Year’s resolutions; why we make them, why we break them but most importantly…how to keep them. We dive into some of the behavioural science behind how to turn our resolutions into habits, to make them stick. If you’re looking to make a real change this year, then this ep…
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S3 Ep17: I Shouldn’t Say This, But It’s Okay If You’re Not Feeling Festive
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In the final podcast of 2020, we look back over Christmas ads from The Gravy Song, to Tesco’s No Naughty List and we see which brands have got it right and which have definitely got it wrong. After rating my favourite ads, we discuss the fact that Christmas is not easy for everyone. I talk about how I’m approaching this year and some of the ways we…
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S3 Ep16: Island Records' Guillermo Ramos: Working With The Kings And Queens Of Music
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Ariana Grande. Mumford and Sons. Disclosure. Hozier. Dermot Kennedy. These are just some of the incredible artists that this week's guest has worked with to build their careers and best-selling music. Guillermo Ramos is the VP of Marketing at Island Records, one of the world's most famous labels. He tells me all about his amazing career, the import…
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S3 Ep15: I Shouldn't Say This, But Procrastination Doesn't Make You Lazy
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I am a chronic procrastinator. I put things off. I avoid certain tasks. I distract myself on purpose. I struggle to complete work. And I know that I'm not alone. 1 in 5 people procrastinate at least once, every single day. So, on this week's episode of the podcast, I dive deep into all things procrastination. I look into what causes it, the impact …
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S3 Ep14: Pip & Nut's Pippa Murray: B-Corp Recognition, Building Culture and Beating Dyslexia
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This week, I am joined by fantastic Pippa Murray, Founder of Pip & Nut, the award-winning, fastest growing nut butter brand in the UK. Pip followed a career path that was far from traditional, going from anthropology, to theatre, to entrepreneurship - founding a business that started as an idea while preparing for a marathon. We discuss Pip & Nut’s…
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S3 Ep13: I Shouldn't Say This, But Burnout Will Never Be Cool
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Earlier this month, I shared a post on overworking and burnout, and it went viral. It exploded. So many people resonated with it. Equally, there were people that disagreed. It made me realise that clearly, this is a topic that needs to be discussed more. So, on this week's episode of the podcast I deep dive into all things burnout. I reveal the thr…
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S3 Ep12: Laced's Yoann Pavy: Building Best-Known Brands From The Beginning
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This week, I am joined by the fantastic Yoann Pavy, VP of Marketing at Laced, the startup sneaker reselling platform taking Europe by storm. He’s had an enviable career, working for some of the world’s best-known brands, such as Depop and Deliveroo, both of which he joined at their very early stages. We chat about his switch from an engineering car…
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S3 Ep11: I Shouldn't Say This, But We Need A Happiness Hack Right Now
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We could all do with a little happiness right now. So, if you're finding the second lockdown tough, this episode is for you. This week, I dive deep into 4 super interesting happiness hacks, each vastly different from the other. From a Japanese concept for finding purpose, to setting happiness goals, to a scientific approach to feel-good brain chemi…
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S3 Ep10: BorrowMyDoggy's Rikke Rosenlund: The Pups Protecting Pandemic Mental Health
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This week’s guest is the fantastic Rikke Rosenlund, Founder and CEO of BorrowMyDoggy - the canine Tinder taking the UK by storm, in a dog sitting market worth $1 billion. I have a real personal connection to this brand. The first lockdown was an incredibly lonely period for me. I was struggling to find the motivation to leave the house, until I met…
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S3 Ep9: I Shouldn't Say This, But: Everything You Need To Know About October
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BONUS BITESIZE EPISODE ALERT! October has been an eventful month, to say the least. So I've recorded an extra special episode, rounding up the good, the bad and the ugly of marketing campaigns this month. I also share my thoughts on October's major social updates, including the infamous launch of LinkedIn Stories, a change in the landscape that has…
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