7-Figure Music School is a podcast for music school owners who want to create fantastic margins, hire energetic teachers, and leverage their team's time and talent to create a sustainable business. Join hosts Daniel Patterson, Founder & CEO of Grow Your Music Studio, and Nate Shaw, Co-founder & CEO of Brooklyn Music Factory, as you create YOUR 7-figure music school.
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Are you a music studio owner or instructor looking to grow your music teaching business? This podcast will teach you how to apply marketing and business fundamentals so you can get more music students for longer.
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A project of Ave Maria Press, Ave Explores helps you discover and learn about aspects of the Catholic faith from a variety of different angles, looking at topics relevant to the spiritual life in a fresh, engaging, and practical way.
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Weekly podcast series were Mike Wagner ( Owner of Cornfield Customs) and weekly guests have automotive fabrication open discussions as well as cover listener submitted questions covering fabrication techniques, interesting stories from the industry, business practices and just day to day life.
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Listen to Lee, Ryan and Dave talk about how much Dave dislikes Queens of the Stone Age and how much they worship the band. We also get into how we listen to certain genres of music but the artists we're influenced by are in completely different genres.
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Relationships as a Teacher Recruiting Tool (w. Peira M.) | 7FMS129
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In March of this year, I took part of the Grow team to Brooklyn New York to do some in person planning for the podcast. I spent a considerable amount of time at Brooklyn Music Factory’s gorgeous studio space. While there, I had a “stop and chat” with Peira (BMF’s co-owner). In the course of that conversation, she made some interesting comments abou…
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Training Teachers, Negative Thinking, and Group Lesson Challenges (Live Q&A Episode) | 7FMS128
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We did another live Q&A episode! Here are the topics that we cover in this episode: Should you use a call to action / hard pitch in your social media posts? Choosing a commercial location for your group classes Building a story around your challenges in order to overcome them Training inexperienced teachers in the group lesson format + tackling com…
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Success Patterns of Big Music Academies (w. Sam L.) | 7FMS127
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What’s the best way to run your music school? What decisions should you make when it comes to programming, staffing, and marketing? Our guest today has strong opinions about these questions… Listen with an open mind… this might challenge your beliefs! - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using…
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Market Your Group Classes Without Spending a Dime | EP 236
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In today’s episode, we’re gearing up for an exciting webinar titled “The Number One Way to Fill Your Group Classes,” happening on July 11th at 1:30 p.m. Eastern Time. If you haven’t reserved your spot yet, now is the perfect time! Can’t make it? No worries—replay will be available. Sign up at davesimonsmusic.com/webinar. Key Points Covered: No Paid…
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Helping Parents See The Value in Group Classes | EP 235
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For a deeper dive into these topics, join Dave's webinar on July 11th at davesimonsmusic.com/webinar, where you'll receive in-depth strategies, participate in a live Q&A, and access exclusive resources. Tune in and transform how you market and sell group music classes, inspiring young musicians along the way. In this episode: Discover why group cla…
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Tools and Tactics for Improving Teacher Performance (Part 2) | 7FMS126
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Are your teachers underperforming? How can you judge their effectiveness? Nate and Daniel unpack these ideas (and more) in today’s podcast episode. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get updates and FREE workshop invites from Nate a…
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Week Seven: On Pilgrimage in the U.S. with Tim O'Malley and Chenele Shaw
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Catholicism is incarnational and tactile. We exist in reality, and so does our faith. Remembering that is essential to growing in our Catholicism, and Timothy P. O’Malley explains how “matter matters” in the places and spaces we worship. This summer, Catholics in the United States will have the chance to experience that incarnational reality on the…
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The #1 Way to Fill Your Group Classes | EP 234
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Unlock the secrets to making your music school more profitable. Discover how group classes can significantly boost your margins and optimize your limited teaching hours. In this episode, Dave delves into common misconceptions parents have about group versus private lessons and how to reposition your offerings to meet their needs. Join Dave in his u…
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Improving Your Music School’s Teacher Performance (Part 1) | 7FMS125
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In this episode, Nate and Daniel discuss everything you need to know about measuring teacher performance, including… The tools to use The metrics to track The pitfalls to avoid The results you’ll enjoy - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/…
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Week Six: Forming Young Minds and Serving Those in Need with Fr. Tim Anastos and Kerry Robinson
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The Church in the U.S. has made a lasting impact on education and social services. From universities and lay apostolates that educate and form young adults to networks of Catholic Charities offices that provide essential help to those in need, Catholicism in the U.S. is not naval-gazing or self-centered. The Church in the U.S. seeks to serve. Fr. T…
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Reimaging Music Lessons with Nate Shaw | EP 233
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In this episode, Dave's guest, Nate Shaw shares his unique method of gamified learning. Nate has revolutionized music lessons by making them fun and relevant through the use of pop music and games, moving beyond traditional methods. Tune in to hear about his creation, Big Music Games, and its impact on music education. davesimonmusic.com…
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When You Lose a Key Employee (w. Alyssa O’ Toole) | 7FMS124
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In this episode, Nate, Daniel, and Alyssa share their stories of a time when one of their key team members left… What happened… What they learned… And what you can learn from their experiences. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get…
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Week Five: Catholicism on the California Coast and in the Colorado Mountains with Stephen J. Binz and JoAnn Seaman
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St. Junipero Serra evangelized California and St. Frances Xavier Cabrini evangelized Colorado. Their influence extends up and down the West Coast and throughout the Rocky Mountains, leaving a lasting legacy that continues to inspire today. In this episode, Stephen J. Binz, a pilgrimage leader to the California Missions, and JoAnn Seaman, director o…
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A Rare Opportunity to Work with Dave Simon | EP 232
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Join Dave as he delves into the essentials of effective leadership in the music education business. He explores the importance of mentorship, both in having a mentor and being one. Discover how these relationships can transform your business approach and provide deeper insights. Dave shares a personal story about making tough decisions with a mento…
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How Do I Get Students to Practice More? (Live Q&A Ep.) | 7FMS123
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We did another live Q&A episode! Here’s today’s questions: How do I handle a key teacher's summer absence? How do I hire committed and reliable teachers? How do I build a community amongst my teaching staff? What percentage of tuition should teachers receive? How do I motivate students to practice independently? - - - - - Check out our free trainin…
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Week Four: Southern Suffering and Sanctity with Fr. Korey LaVergne and Sr. Mary Michael Fox, OP
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From the inspiring faith of little Charlene Richard, a twelve-year-old girl who died of Leukemia and is now on the path to canonization, to the enduring resilience of the Dominican Sisters of St. Cecilia during the Civil War and the culture wars of today, Catholicism in the South is far from just a cultural norm—it embodies a story of suffering and…
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A Cure to the Music Teacher Shortage Part III | EP 231
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Many music schools prefer hiring instructors with advanced degrees, but U-Rock Music School’s focus on mentoring and hiring teenager stands out. In this episode, I speak with Daniela Guglieta, a parent from U-Rock. She shared her positive experience with teenage instructors and her initial reaction to her child’s 17-year-old teacher. davesimonsmusi…
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A Cure to the Music Teacher Shortage Part II | Ep 230
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Join Dave as he explores the innovative solution to music teacher shortages with Cathy Hallessey and Brian Brodersen from U-Rock Music School. Discover their unique approach to staffing their school with teenage teachers and the challenges and rewards they encounter along the way. davesimonsmusic.com…
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Should You Scale Your School?: Assessing Risk and Opportunities | 7FMS122
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A listener sent in a question and a REAL LIFE dilemma she faced. She was presented an opportunity to take her studio out of her home… but it would require her taking a financial risk and investing in a commercial location. This is a different kind of episode… instead of Nate and I giving theoretical advice about expansion, scale, investment, and in…
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Week Three: The Holiness of Bl. Michael McGivney and St. Elizabeth Ann Seton with Brian Caulfield and Amy J. Cattapan
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The stories of saints in the United States are diverse and dynamic. The first American born female saint, St. Elizabeth Ann Seton and the founder and first chaplain of the Knights of Columbus, Bl. Michael McGivney, show us how holiness is found in a unique way. Brian Caulfield and Amy J. Cattapan share the stories of these two holy American heroes …
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How to Market Programs in Your School | 7FMS121
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Every once in a while, we highlight a specific element of Brooklyn Music Factory’s strategy… and today we’re going to do that again. In this episode, we spotlight the “One Sheet”... a tool used at Brooklyn Music Factory to: Promote their programs externally Provide information to parents internally Grow their programs Make sure that their teachers …
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Week Two: Our Lady in the Midwest with Fr. Edward Looney and Fr. Nate Wills, CSC
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Whether it’s the Lady who appeared in a forest to young Adele Brise or the Lady atop a golden dome visible for miles from a college campus in northern Indiana, the Blessed Virgin Mary is revered, cherished, and celebrated in the American Midwest. Fr. Edward Looney, author and priest in the Diocese of Green Bay, and Fr. Nate Wills, CSC, chaplain to …
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Join Dave as he delves into the essentials of effective leadership in the face of adversity. He explores how to navigate crises with composure and clarity. Discover the pivotal role of leadership in business, especially during crises. From weathering the storm of recession to navigating the uncharted waters of a global pandemic, Dave uncovers valua…
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Week One: The Places and People of the U.S. Catholic Church with Kevin Schmiesing and Meg Hunter-Kilmer
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What places hold significance, and who are the key figures in the narrative of Catholicism in the United States of America? From both a historical and modern perspective, the story of the Church in the US is expansive, diverse, and compelling. Authors Kevin Schmiesing and Meg Hunter-Kilmer share their insights and expertise on the noteworthy locati…
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How to Build a Premium Lesson Program (w. David C.) | 7FMS120
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In this episode, we invited David Chang back on the podcast He goes beyond the basics, and shares the “how to” of building a premium lessons program. However, I will warn you… If you’re just looking for a “checklist” of “things you have to do” to build a high-grossing lesson program… you’re going to be disappointed. While David does share a ton of …
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Outsourcing Social, Parenting, and Long-Term Retention of Students (Q&A Episode) | 7FMS119
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We did another viewer mailbag episode… and answered questions from school owners all over the world! In this episode, we cover the following topics: More thoughts on social media for your music school How to delegate social in your school How to delegate in your school (in general) More thoughts on long-term retention (not discussed in past episode…
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5 Limiting Beliefs That Could be Hurting Your Music School | EP 228
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Join Dave as he shares the top challenges music school owners face and how to overcome them. Based on insights from a recent Music Lessons and Marketing Facebook group poll, Dave identifies five common limiting beliefs among music school owners, such as not enjoying the business side or feeling inadequate with technology. Reflecting on his own expe…
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Teaser NEW Series: Catholic Hope in the US with Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan
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Cardinal Timothy M. Dolan, the 10th Archbishop of the Archdiocese of New York, shares his favorite Catholic churches and places in the United States of America. He offers insight into the current challenges facing Catholics, from a perspective of the historical Catholic Church, and reasons for his abundant hope in the Church in America today. We wo…
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Advice We’d Give to Our Younger Selves (w. Alyssa O’Toole) | 7FMS118
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Recently, three of the coaches at Grow (Alyssa, Nate, and Daniel) got together at Brooklyn Music Factory and recorded an episode about the “one thing we’d change” if we could go back. This is a conversational episode, a thoughtful episode. As Daniel puts it during the episode… “Learn from my mistakes so you don’t have to make them.” We’re really pr…
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An Instagram Ads Strategy For Group Classes | EP 227
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Ready to dive into the world of Instagram advertising with Danny Thompson? In this episode, he's spilling all the secrets on how to rock Instagram ads and supercharge your advertising game. We'll talk about fixing those pesky advertising problems and using what you learn to make your campaigns shine in today's fast-paced digital world. So, Danny's …
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Premium Pricing Model with NO Private Lessons? (w. David C.) | 7FMS117
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We interviewed a studio owner who: Does not use a private lesson model Charges ultra-premium rates Offers “luxury” quality lessons Caters only to serious adult pianists Is almost entirely online So much to learn in this episode. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music schoo…
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How To Increase Sales And Improve Retention In Just 10 Minutes | EP 226
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Discover effective strategies to boost sales and enhance student retention in your music school. In this episode, Dave unveils two proven methods to keep students engaged and coming back for more. Say goodbye to churn and hello to growth with these actionable insights! Jonah Berger’s onto something: keeping your music school on people’s lips is key…
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Are You Afraid of Teaching Group Lessons? (w. Greg Genter) | 7FMS116
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In the last year, I’ve really noticed that mid-size and larger academies have a tendency to resist or reject group lesson programs. Now, they might have a “rock band” program… Or a preschool class… Or “group makeup lessons”... Or they might have a small keyboard class… But they don’t really fully commit to a group lesson structure and convert 200 p…
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Do Nate and Daniel Disagree On Marketing Strategy?!?!? | 7FMS115
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In this episode, we recorded a private conversation between Nate and Daniel about music school marketing strategy… … And Daniel reveals marketing strategies he hasn’t talked about publicly before, including: Top of funnel vs bottom of funnel marketing strategies A rookie marketing mistake that most music schools are still making in their program of…
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Tools for Financial Freedom in Your Music School (w. Alyssa O’ Toole) | 7FMS114
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In this week’s episode, we invited Alyssa back to talk about one of her favorite topics… Money, debt, financial tools, and why business owners tend to avoid these topics. Alyssa opens up and shares her story… At times scary… and at times HEROIC… She talks about the steps she took along the way to build a powerful and successful studio in one of the…
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How to Create a Word-of-Mouth Marketing Strategy | EP 225
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Ready to unlock the secrets of a powerful word-of-mouth marketing strategy? Dive into this eye-opening episode with Dave. Despite its undeniable effectiveness, too many music schools are missing out on the potential of word-of-mouth marketing. Discover why it's crucial to shift your focus from offering discounts to showing genuine gratitude, a tact…
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Growing Your School’s Social Media (w. Lauren Kelly) | 7FMS113
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How do you use Facebook and Instagram effectively for your music school? Do you have to “like” social media to use it as a tool for your business? Is it possible to delegate this entirely to a team member in your studio or school? We brought Lauren Kelly on the podcast to talk all things social media… Including how she built massive followings on F…
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What Your Families Think of Your Pricing | Ep 224
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In this episode, Dave shares insights into the psychology behind pricing and customer perception, particularly in the context of music lessons. People often have a vague idea about the cost of music lessons, influenced by factors like convenience, reputation, and social validation. Music school owners sometimes mistakenly set prices based on their …
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Lent Makes Us Fully Alive with Fr. Tim Anastos
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Fr. Tim Anastos, author and assistant chaplain at the St. John Paul II Newman Center at the University of Illinois, highlights how Lent offers us an opportunity to become fully alive in Christ Jesus. Through our weeks of prayer, fasting, and almsgiving, we have experienced the love of the Lord in distinct and profound ways. Now, as Holy Week unfold…
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How to Equip Your Team to Run Your Music School | 7FMS112
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We did an episode that goes beyond platitudes and cliche’s about delegation, “working on your business, not in your business”, and other trite advice we’ve heard 1000x already. This is the HOW, not the WHY. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio…
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The Eucharist Can Revive Our Lent with Tanner Kalina
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In this sacred season, our ultimate aim is to draw nearer to Christ. And what better way to achieve this closeness than by physically spending time with him in the presence of the Eucharist? Join Tanner Kalina, a passionate Eucharistic missionary for the National Eucharistic Revival, as he demonstrates how Lent is the perfect time to seek the Lord'…
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How I Went from 140 to 700 Students in 3 Years | Ep 223
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In this episode, Dave speaks with two members of Jonny Wilson’s Build a Music School program and how it helped them grow their music school. davesimonsmusic.comBy Dave Simon
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How do you stay on track with your annual goals during the year? That’s the subject of today’s podcast episode… where Nate and I talk about how to set and achieve short-term goals each quarter. - - - - - Check out our free trainings and resources on school marketing, group lessons, and using AI in your music school: growyourmusicstudio.com/free Get…
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Lent Reveals Our Weakness with Sr. Orianne Pietra René, FSP
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The further we get into Lent, the more likely it is that we have run into some—or many—missteps and pitfalls. While this can feel discouraging, Sr. Orianne Pietra René, FSP, a passionate social media evangelist, helps us understand how when Lent is “hard” and we feel weak, that is precisely when the Lord shows up to do great things within us. Our p…
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Investing and Retirement (Music Industry Edition) | 7FMS110
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In his many years of coaching school owners… Daniel has discovered that financial planning, investment, and retirement preparedness is a topic that is often neglected and fraught with confusion. In this compact episode, Daniel and Nate discuss their personal approach to this topic and give a dozen or so suggestions as to how they are planning for t…
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How to Create a Music Summer Camp Part II | Ep 222
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Learn how to create a music summer camp experience that keeps kids returning year after year. davesimonsmusic.comBy Dave Simon
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Let the Lord Purify You in Lent with Manny Gonzalez
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Join Emmanuel “Manny” Gonzalez, a graduate student at Franciscan University of Steubenville, as he shows how, despite our best intentions, we can inadvertently introduce a false sense of control into our lives through Lenten spiritual practices or even in our general spiritual journey. Without realizing it, we can squeeze the Lord out of our lives …
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Finding Your Studio’s Unique Message (w. Tim Topham) | 7FMS109
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Our guest today doesn’t really need an introduction… Tim Topham is an enormous figure in our industry. He emerged as an important voice in pedagogy a decade with his membership and resources created TopMusic.co. Tim came on the podcast to talk about how we educate beginners in our studio, creativity, and how his passion for pedagogy led him to disc…
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Keeping Lent Simple with Claire and Mike Couche of Finding Philothea
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Do you ever have BIG plans for Lent, only to feel overwhelmed as the weeks go on? Claire and Mike Couche, founders of Finding Philothea, share how embracing simplicity—through carving out time for prayer, focusing on small acts of fasting, and learning generosity through acts of service—can wield greater impact than grand gestures of repentance and…
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Gamifying Your Summer Camps (w. Greg Genter) | 7FMS108
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Greg and Daniel built a beginner music summer camp in northern Virginia. The camp eventually enrolled hundreds of new campers each summer… growth that was built on word of mouth and a tiny marketing budget. Parents loved the camp and told their friends about it! A huge part of the success of the camp was the gamification that was built directly int…
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