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A new web is emerging that goes well beyond just Bitcoin, Ethereum, and money, but promises an entirely new computing paradigm, and data economy. The Metaverse Podcast is a series co-hosted by Outlier Ventures Founder & Chairman Jamie Burke and Partner & Board Member Rumi Morales, where they introduce you to the founders, entrepreneurs, investors, and the policymakers that are shaping Web3, the Open Metaverse, and the future of digital interaction.
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The Somi Arian Podcast is your gateway to the dynamic terrain of business, technology, and human potential in an AI-driven society. We bring together thought leaders, innovators, and trailblazers from a wide spectrum of disciplines, including art, music, Web3, entrepreneurship, health span, and longevity, to unveil their profound insights and personal journeys. Our mission is to ignite inspiration, impart wisdom, and arm you with the tools to not only survive but thrive in a world marked by ...
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Grit explores what it takes to create, build, and scale world-class organizations. It features weekly episodes highlighting the leaders who are pushing their companies to make a difference. This series is hosted by Joubin Mirzadegan, go to market operating partner at Kleiner Perkins, a venture capital firm investing in history-making founders.
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In this episode of The Metaverse Podcast, Partner and Board Member Rumi Morales sits down with Mike Katz, Partner at Manatt, Phelps & Phillips for a deep dive into the world of policy and regulation. If you're interested in any of the following topics, this episode is for you! - The evolution of US policy and regulation on Web3 - The upcoming US pr…
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Guest: Sridhar Ramaswamy, CEO of Snowflake “People underestimate what it is to go through a complete reset,” says Snowflake CEO Sridhar Ramaswamy. And he knows it: After an incredible 15-year run at Google, he started over from zero with an AI search startup, Neeva. And in hindsight, he regrets not trying to port over more of the skills that had ma…
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Guest: James Freeman, Founder and Former CEO of Blue Bottle Coffee In the six or so years since he sold his last shares of Blue Bottle Coffee to Nestlé, James Freeman has had a lot of time to ruminate — about how he succeeded in creating a unique café experience, and also the ways he failed his workers as a manager. But he’s already thinking about …
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In this episode of The Metaverse Podcast, we bring you a fascinating conversation with our Bitcoin ecosystem. Our Bitcoin Accelerator Lead Francesca Conti sits down with mentors and founders including: - Charlie Varley of Bloom - JJ Thompson of dwallet - Maxime Bucaille, and - Felipe Servin of Sati They'll be talking about: - Our upcoming accelerat…
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In this episode of The Metaverse Podcast, our Chairman and Founder Jamie Burke speaks with Domenic Carosa, a serial entrepreneur and, most recently, the founder of Hivello. Listen to learn more about: - Domenic's background as a serial entrepreneur and his journey into Web3 - The rapidly-growing DePIN investor landscape - Domenic's vision for DePIN…
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Guest: John Hanke, CEO of Niantic When Pokémon Go launched, Niantic CEO John Hanke was enjoying a tranquil walk through a bamboo forest near Kyoto with his son. When he got back, it was all hands on deck: Building on a platform Niantic had developed for its previous game, Ingress, Pokémon Go was a runaway success story, earning $100 million dollars…
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Guest: Mark McLaughlin, chairman of the board at Qualcomm When he was 24, Mark McLaughlin thought his career was over. Since childhood, he had dreamed of attending West Point and joining the Army, but a helicopter crash left him unable to serve, with a medical discharge. However, the crash also let him stay closer to his then-girlfriend Karen. They…
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Our host Rumi Morales is joined by Beniamin Mincu, a leading web3 entrepreneur and the Founding CEO of MultiversX. A longtime Web3 pioneer, Beniamin is passionate about building scalable L1 solutions, focusing on areas of cross-chain security & interoperability, asset tokenization, and sovereign chains. Tune in to learn about: - Beniamin's backgrou…
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Guest: David Risher, CEO of Lyft David Risher can measure his career in phone calls, from the one that introduced him to Jeff Bezos in 1995, to the call from the Lyft board in 2023, asking him to vie for the CEO job. But initially, he believed his life’s legacy might be the nonprofit Worldreader, which has brought books to more than 22 million read…
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In this episode of the Metaverse Podcast, our co-host Rumi Morales is joined by Ali Husain of Navigate: Navigate is an Outlier Ventures portfolio company building the world's largest decentralized intelligence platform. In the episode they discuss: - AI and drone technology and their practical applications - Decentralized intelligence platforms and…
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Guests: Vipul Ved Prakash, CEO and co-founder of Together AI; and Bucky Moore, partner at Kleiner Perkins No one knows for sure whether the future of AI will be driven more by research labs and AI-native companies, or by enterprises applying the technology to their own data sets. But one thing is for sure, says Together AI CEO and co-founder Vipul …
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In this special edition of the Metaverse Podcast, our Head of Investments and Cryptoeconomics, Dimi Chatzianagnostou, goes through an in-depth recap of our pilot Tokenomics Bootcamp, with: Justin Woodward, Founder of The MIX (Media Indie Exchange) Franco De Cesare, CMO and Head of Publishing at TheLostGlitches Tobias Batton, Co-Founder & CEO at Ex …
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Guest: Andrew Bialecki, CEO of Klaviyo Whenever the marketing platform Klaviyo is hiring, says CEO Andrew Bialecki, “we sort of don't care so much what skills you have.” Instead, the company looks for “high slope” individuals who are curious and able to continually learn new things. “A big turnoff for me is [when] somebody says, ‘Oh, well, I was ne…
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Join us for an exciting new chapter of the Metaverse Podcast as we introduce our new co-host, Rumi Morales. In this episode, Jamie Burke sits down with Rumi to discuss her impressive background in finance, venture capital, and blockchain technology. Get to know the newest voice on our show and discover the wealth of experience she brings to the tab…
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Guest: Niraj Shah, CEO and co-founder of Wayfair Wayfair CEO Niraj Shah caught the entrepreneurship bug in his mid-20s, when he and his longtime co-founder Steve Conine sold their first company just a few years out of college. They left the acquirer and independently realized “we absolutely wanted to start something else,” Niraj recalls. “Once you’…
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In this episode of the Metaverse Podcast, our co-host Rumi Morales is joined by: > Marc Baumann, Founder at FiftyOne Ventures> Maja Vujinovic, Managing Director at OGroup The conversation delves into why some major brands are retreating from Web3 while others are doubling down, examining the challenges and opportunities in this space. You'll learn …
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Guest: Jay Chaudhry, CEO, chairman, and founder of Zscaler Much of the media coverage of Zscaler CEO Jay Chaudhry is quick to identify him as the wealthiest Indian-American person, with a net worth of $10.8 billion. But to hear Jay himself tell it, that number has never been very important to him: “My family had no money,” he says of his childhood …
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Guest: Bill Magnuson, CEO and co-founder of Braze The deployment of smartphones around the world was more impactful than any other technology to date, says Braze CEO Bill Magnuson — and that has big implications for emerging fields like generative AI. “If we get to the point where they [LLMs] really can be useful, human-like companions ... they wil…
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Guest: Clara Shih, CEO of Salesforce AI In 2020, Clara Shih quit Hearsay, the company she founded and ran for 11 years; in hindsight, she says “I probably should have quit a little bit sooner.” But at the time, she cared a lot — too much — about what everyone else thought. “There's a lot of guilt around leaving initially and feeling bad for feeling…
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In this episode of the Metaverse Podcast, our co-host Rumi Morales is joined by Tommie van der Bosch, Partner Web3 & Digital Risk Solutions at Deloitte. Tommie is spearheading the Web3 division at Deloitte NL, with the mission to drive innovation forward, both for their clients and for their organization. If you're interested in any of these topics…
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Guest: Marissa Mayer, CEO and Founder of Sunshine and former CEO of Yahoo When Marissa Mayer was first hired as the CEO of Yahoo, the company had lost nearly a quarter of its workforce in the preceding six months. Early on, she was chatting with employees in the cafeteria and one of them got her attention by smacking her tray. “Is it go time?” he a…
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In this episode, our host Jamie Burke welcomes back Nils Pihl, founder and CEO of Auki Labs, to discuss the groundbreaking developments in spatial computing and decentralized machine perception networks. They delve into the advancements in the Posemesh protocol and its implications for the future of AI, AR, and the Internet of Things (IoT). Tune in…
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Guest: Sarah Friar, former CEO of Nextdoor Sarah Friar has worked with some of the top leaders in Silicon Valley, including Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff, Walmart CEO Doug McMillon, Block CEO Jack Dorsey, and most recently Nextdoor founder Nirav Tolia, who just replaced her as CEO in May. And one of the things that sets top performers apart from the …
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In this episode of the Metaverse Podcast, our host Jamie Burke engages in a deep discussion with Max Borders, author of The Social Singularity: A Decentralist Manifesto and Founder of Social Evolution. If you're interested in any of these topics, tune in! Decentralization, subversive innovation, underthrowing power Pluralism in governance experimen…
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In this episode of the Metaverse Podcast, our host Jamie Burke welcomes Marcello Mari, Founder & CEO at SingularityDAO, and part of the founding team at SingularityNET. This conversation is a deep dive into decentralized AI. If you're interested in any of these topics, tune in! Decentralized AI and its potential impact AI, AGI (Artificial General I…
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Guest: Stanislav Vishnevskiy, CTO and co-founder of Discord For many years, the conventional wisdom was the gaming was not social because it was something you usually did at home. “But people who play games are often the most social,” says Discord CTO Stanislav Vishnevskiy. “They’re spending 10, 20 hours with other people online, hanging out.” As a…
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Guest: Eoghan McCabe, CEO, Chairman, and Co-Founder of Intercom “We are not ready for the degree to which our world is going to change,” says Intercom CEO Eoghan McCabe, “in insane and incredible ways.” When he co-founded the company in 2011, the Irish-born entrepreneur was making it easier for companies to offer human customer service to their cus…
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In this episode of the Metaverse Podcast, our host Jamie Burke welcomes Samuel Huber, Founder & CEO at Matera Protocol and Landvault. With over a decade of experience building virtual worlds and digital experiences, Samuel has built pioneering companies in the metaverse space based in Dubai. If you're interested in any of these topics, tune in! Mob…
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Guest: Mark Cuban, co-founder of Cost Plus Drugs and costar, Shark Tank “I just love to compete,” says Mark Cuban. “And the day I stop is the day I’m dead.” Previously the co-founder of MicroSolutions and Broadcast.com, Cuban is probably best known to the public today for competing with the likes of Daymond John and Barbara Corcoran on the reality …
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Guest: Taylor Francis, co-founder of Watershed One day when he was 13, Taylor Francis walked out of the movie theater, and he was pissed off. He had just seen Al Gore’s documentary An Inconvenient Truth and internalized a “generational call to arms, that my parents had screwed our generation” by causing the climate crisis, he says. 14 years later, …
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In this special episode of the Metaverse Podcast, we’re excited to introduce our new partners for the upcoming RWA Base Camp accelerator, the Celo ecosystem. Tune in to hear how they will be supporting the founders, while staying true to their mission. Join the conversation with: John Goldschmidt, our Head of Partnerships Katie Lundie, Program Mana…
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Guests: Victor Riparbelli, CEO and co-founder of Synthesia; and Josh Coyne, partner at Kleiner Perkins When Victor Riparbelli wants to learn something, he’ll start with a YouTube video or a podcast: “I maybe buy the book on Amazon as like the fifth step,” the Synthesia CEO says. His company is trying to change the text-first (or text-only) way info…
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In this special episode of the Metaverse Podcast, we’re excited to introduce the Futureverse Base Camp cohort. Tune in to hear firsthand experiences directly from the founders as they discuss their journey in the Outlier Ventures accelerator. Join the conversation with Aaron McDonald, co-founder of Futureverse and Born Ready, and Blake Lezenski, Pa…
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Guest: Kat Cole, COO of Athletic Greens You can’t make smart decisions if you don’t know the truth — the “true truth,” as Athletic Greens COO Kat Cole puts it. “As you get bigger and you have success, innovator’s dilemma, you end up talking to yourself instead of really being rooted in what’s going on.” That’s why she has embraced the anxiety of th…
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In this special edition of the Metaverse Podcast, our host Jamie Burke hosts a pivotal webinar with 3 proeminent founders, all pioneers in the AI x Web3 vertical. Gain valuable founder insights from: Humayun Sheikh, CEO & Founder - Fetch.ai Bruce Pon, Co-Founder - Ocean Protocol Paul Claudius - Co-founder, DIA Fetch.ai, Ocean Protocol and DIA are o…
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Guest: Anne Raimondi, COO and Head of Business at Asana Asana COO Anne Raimondi feels pressure to perform in her job “every day, all the time.” But that pressure doesn’t come from her fellow executives; she imposes it on herself, trying to think carefully about how much each of her decisions will impact her team. “I have a lot of privilege and choi…
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In this episode of the Metaverse Podcast, our host Jamie Burke welcomes Leonard Dorlöchter, Co-Founder at peaq. peaq is the home of DePIN (Decentralized Physical Infrastructure Networks), enabling builders to build DePINs for mobility, connectivity, energy, and more. If you're interested in any of these topics, tune in! Decentralized infrastructure…
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Guest: Sanjay Beri, CEO and Founder of Netskope “You can be waiting your whole life to do something, and then your life’s over,” says Sanjay Beri. After nine years at Juniper Networks, he left his comfortable job, moved his family to a house with a pricier mortgage, and launched the cloud security firm Netskope. His entrepreneurial story would make…
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In this episode of the Metaverse Podcast, our host Jamie Burke welcomes Fraser Edwards, Co-Founder and CEO at Cheqd. Cheqd is building the payment infrastructure and the trust layer that enables the creation of marketplaces for Trusted Data. > Can digital identities be truly self-sovereign? If you're interested in any of these topics, tune in! Fras…
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In this episode of the Metaverse Podcast, Jamie dives deep into the world of DeFi with Brian Fu, co-founder of zkLend, next generation lending protocol built on Starknet leveraging zk-rollup technology. Tune in to: Learn about the innovative approach of zkLend in combining scalability, speed, and security within the DeFi space. Gain insights into B…
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Guest: Scott McNealy, former CEO and co-founder of Sun Microsystems & co-founder of Curriki Scott McNealy never wanted to be CEO of Sun, and in his 22-year tenure before selling to Oracle, he knows there were times he failed to execute, or to rein in the once-iconic Silicon Valley firm’s worst impulses. But like his pro golfer son, Maverick, Scott …
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In this episode of the Metaverse Podcast, our host Jamie Burke welcomes Ian Rogers, Chief Experience Officer and board member at Ledger, a leading provider of cryptocurrency security solutions. Embarking on a journey that predates the web, Ian Rogers has held positions such as CEO of Beats Music and Chief Digital Officer at LVMH, among others (Yaho…
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Guest: Jyoti Bansal, CEO and co-founder of Harness Cisco bought Jyoti Bansal’s first company AppDynamics for $3.7 billion, making him a very wealthy man. But after two African safaris, a week of Michelin-starred meals in Tokyo, and more adventures all around the world, he realized that spending his money didn’t truly make him happy. After some soul…
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In this episode of the Metaverse Podcast, we dive into a captivating conversation with Ketan Jog, Co-founder & CEO at Absinthe Labs, an AI company shaping the future of incentive distribution in Web3 through their innovative "Points as a Service" approach. Tune in to: Explore Absinthe Labs’ journey as they transition from their initial focus on syb…
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Guest: Clint Sharp, CEO and co-founder of Cribl New employees are joining the remote data platform Cribl every week, and as the staff grows, CEO Clint Sharp has noticed a problem: He can’t file a bug report without a lot of caveats. When there were a handful of users, no one would bat an eye at the CEO posting a bug on Slack, but now he has had to …
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In this episode of The Metaverse Podcast, host Jamie Burke sits down with Charles Cao, Co-founder of Swan Chain, an Ethereum layer 2 AI computing blockchain. With 8 years of dedication and a $10 million investment in decentralized cloud computing and blockchain technology, Charles is now a staunch advocate for decentralized infrastructure networks.…
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Guest: Glen Tullman, CEO of Transcarent Before he was CEO of Transcarent, Glen Tullman presided over the biggest digital health merger of all time: His previous company Livongo was acquired in 2020 by Teledoc for $18.5 billion. Over his decades of experience in health tech, he has developed saying: Hire low, fire high. When one of his friends was o…
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Guest: Filip Kaliszan, CEO and co-founder of Verkada Great founders try to grow personally at least as fast as their companies do — but sometimes, says Verkada CEO Filip Kaliszan, that’s just not possible. By the time the company had about 200 employees, he says, “the scale of the business and the rate of the growth of the business ... outpaced my …
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In this episode of the Metaverse Podcast, we welcome Adrien Stern, co-founder and CEO of Reveel (R3vl), pioneering a new social payments layer on top of existing wallets and fixing the fragmentation problem. This conversation explores the intersection of technology, business, and entertainment, highlighting the role of AI and blockchain in shaping …
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Guest: Wade Foster, CEO and co-founder of Zapier When Wade Foster and his co-founders launched Zapier, he was 24, and doubted himself constantly. He consulted mentors like Paul Graham and Jay Simons, studied entrepreneurs like Jeff Bezos and Steve Jobs, and also took inspiration from an unlikely source: Actor and martial artist Bruce Lee. “[He] had…
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