The Curiosity Software Podcast featuring Huw Price and Richard Jordan! Together, they will share their insight and expertise in driving software design and development in test. Learn how you can improve your journey to quality software delivery, by considering how much do you really understand about your systems, and when things inevitably go wrong, why didn’t you test that? So, here at Curiosity Software 📻 we're super excited to announce our brand new podcast, Why Didn't You Test That?, fea ...
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POW is the Psychology of Work podcast from the Association for Business Psychology. In this podcast we give you the latest explosive insights from some of the brightest thinkers - and doers - in the field of business psychology. Episodes cover topics such as the rise of the gig economy, leadership, personality, and assessment, and include interviews with small business 'tsar' Emma Jones MBE, Chief Executive of the RSA Matthew Taylor, the journalist James Bloodworth, and business psychology p ...
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Episode 28: Artificial Intelligence & Testing with Daniel Nilsson
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Welcome to episode 28 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? Podcast. In this episode, Rich Jordan and James Walker are joined by special guest Daniel Nilsson, Co-Founder & Managing Director of Test Scouts. Together, they discuss AI and testing, focusing on how testers can improve the quality of AI systems and the tools that can enable them to do so. Ric…
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Episode 27: The Evolution of Quality Engineering with Phil Royston
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Welcome to episode 27 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? Podcast. In this episode, Rich Jordan and James Walker are joined by special guest Phil Royston, CEO & Founder of Tesena. Together, they discuss the evolution of quality engineering as a role and why continuous improvement is essential in the software testing industry. Phil Royston starts the c…
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Episode 26: Addressing Outer Loop Productivity Blockers with Nishil Patel
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Welcome to episode 26 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? Podcast. In this episode, Rich Jordan and James Walker are joined by special guest Nishil Patel, CEO & Founder of BetterBugs. Together, they discuss the evolution of quality engineering and the importance of taking a holistic approach to approach outer loop quality. Nishil Patel starts the conv…
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Episode 25: How to Build a Successful QA Team with Natalie Cole
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Welcome to episode 25 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? Podcast. In this episode, Rich Jordan and Ben Riley are joined by special guest Natalie Cole, a QE Team Manager and Quality Advocate. Together, they discuss the people, processes, and technology involved in building a successful QA team! Natalie Cole, starts the discussion by sharing her experi…
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Episode 24: How to Manage IT Technical Debt with Marcel Mersie
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Welcome to episode 24 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? Podcast. In this episode, Rich Jordan and Huw Price are joined by Marcel Mersie, Technical Lead - Test, and Executive Advisor to the Dutch Tax Administration. Together, they discuss how effective communication and collaboration are crucial for managing knowledge transfer. Organisations face sig…
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Episode 23: Risk-Based Quality Engineering & Traceability with Adam Sandman
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Welcome to episode 23 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? Podcast. In this episode, Rich Jordan and Huw Price are joined by Adam Sandman, CEO & Founder of Inflectra. Together, they explore the continuous evolution of quality engineering, highlighting critical aspects like traceability, auditability, risk-based testing and regulatory compliance. The co…
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The "Why Don't You Test That" podcast, hosted by James Walker and Ben Riley from Curiosity Software talk about the importance of decoding the software development life cycle to foster a holistic approach to quality. In the concept of core inner loop developer activity and essential outer loop organisational processes, this helps address root causes…
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Episode 42: Vision and values are not enough – A conversation with David Sharpley, author of Leadership Principles and Purpose
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David Sharpley is a leadership development expert and experienced organisational psychologist. In an absorbing discussion with Rob Feltham, David draws on his own extensive experience and research, and shares valuable insights into what distinguishes healthy organisations from unhealthy and self-destructive ones, examples of the latter being UK Pos…
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Episode 21: Testing & Community-Driven Quality with Mantas Dvareckas
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Welcome to episode 21 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? Podcast. In this episode, the Curiosity team, Ben Riley, Rich Jordan, and Mantas Dvareckas, discuss the value of different methods of testing, community-driven quality and continuous learning. Ben Riley starts the conversation on the “early access” model which many game developers have started …
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Episode 20: Overcoming Test Quality Challenges with Tom Riglar
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Welcome to episode 20 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? Podcast. In this episode, Curiosity Software's Rich Jordan and James Walker, are joined by Tom Riglar, Co-Founder & CEO at Moropo. Together, they discuss the quality, automation and artificial intelligence challenges enterprises are facing, and their potential solutions. To kick off the convers…
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Episode 19: IT Procurement Challenges Uncovered with John Matthews
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Welcome to episode 19 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? podcast. In this episode, Curiosity Software's Rich Jordan and Huw Price are joined by John Matthews, a leading purchasing consultant and director at Arish Consulting Together they discuss the impact of quality, speed, and cost in software delivery and the organisational challenges of IT procur…
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Episode 41: Senior leadership disclosure of mental health lived experience: A conversation with Dr Rachel Lewis
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Rachel Lewis is widely published in the field of health and wellbeing at work and has contributed to national guidance, and evidence-based tools and interventions. We are delighted to have Rachel as our guest for this special podcast to mark Mental Health Awareness Week, 2024. In discussion with Alex Forsythe, Rachel provides fresh and sometimes co…
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Episode 40: Challenging assumptions about psychometric assessment and reshaping our practice: A conversation with Professor Steve Woods
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Professor Steve Woods works at the leading edge of research into personality at work, including psychometric and personality trait assessment, and personality development and change. In conversation here with Rob Feltham, he discusses two recent and important peer reviewed articles in which he and co-researchers have critically examined and challen…
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Episode 18: Organizational Challenges in Defining Quality
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Welcome to episode 18 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? podcast. In this episode, Curiosity Software's Rich Jordan and CEO James Walker are joined by Chris Harbert, an industry executive and host of the Developers Who Test but also founder and CEO of Testery. Together they discuss the organizational challenges in defining quality. So, quality is ess…
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Episode 17: Making Quality Requirements with Colin Hammond
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Welcome to episode 17 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? podcast. In this episode, Curiosity Software's Rich Jordan and CEO James Walker are joined by Colin Hammond, CEO of ScopeMaster who discusses the importance of how requirements analysis and sizing lends well to predicting project schedules and assessment of scope in software development. The ne…
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Episode 16: Tips for public speaking & presenting
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Welcome to episode 16 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? Podcast! In this episode, the Curiosity team, Rich Jordan, Ben Riley and Lina Deatherage, discuss their latest webinar and share tips for public speaking and preparing for live presentations. The hosts provide insights, personal experiences, and practical advice, making for an informative and e…
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Episode 15: The Future of AI Co-Pilots with Mark Winteringham
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Welcome to episode 15 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? Podcast! In this episode, Curiosity Software's Rich Jordan and James Walker, are joined by Mark Winteringham, author of AI-Assisted Testing. Together they reflect on their experience with AI, the effect it has had on software quality and testing, and the future of AI Co-Pilots. LLMs, namely Cha…
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Episode 14: AI-Powered Testing Practices with Alex Martins
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Welcome to episode 14 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? podcast! In this episode, the Curiosity Software team, Rich Jordan and Ben Johnson-Ward, are joined by Alex Martins, VP of Strategy at Katalon, to discuss the implications and challenges of AI-Powered Testing. This episode goes beyond the hype and marketing euphoria of AI, to weigh up productiv…
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Episode 39: Women Leaders in Online Learning – Alex Forsythe in discussion with Vicky Irwin, Kate Lindsay and Jo-Anne Murray
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In this special edition ABP podcast to mark International Women’s Day 2024, we hear from four distinguished female leaders who have been instrumental in shaping the exciting field of online learning over the past two decades. Innovation in the online learning space is transforming education to become much more: accessible and inclusive; responsive …
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Episode 13: Learning from Software Failures | Why Didn't You Test That?
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Welcome to episode 13 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? Podcast! In this episode, the from the Curiosity Software team, Ben Riley, Rich Jordan and Paul Wright, discuss their learning, experimentations and experiences with failures. This episode of Why Didn't You Test That? Emphasises the value of experimentation and learning from failure, and why it…
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Episode 12: The Legacy System Conundrum with Nalin Parbhu
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Welcome to episode 12 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? Podcast, hosted by Curiosity Software's Huw Price and Rich Jordan! In this episode, our hosts are joined by Nalin Parbhu, Founder & CEO at Infuse, together they discuss digital transformation challenges for organisations struggling with legacy systems, limited budgets, and a reactive approach t…
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Episode 38: Authentic Personal Branding - A conversation with David Royston-Lee and Sylvana Storey, authors of Brand You
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David Royston-Lee and Dr Sylvana Storey have recently published an updated third edition of their highly popular book, Brand You – a readable and practical guide to developing one’s personal brand (details below). In conversation with Rob Feltham, David and Sylvana provide the rationale for, and powerful examples of, developing a strong and consist…
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Episode 37: How are Leadership Expectations Evolving? A conversation with Dan Hughes, Senior Director R&D at Talogy
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Dan Hughes is Senior Director of Research and Development at Talogy, a global talent management consultancy that specialises in selection, development and engagement of talent and whose solutions blend state-of-art psychology and technology. In discussion with Professor Alex Forsythe, Dan describes some of the key findings from Talogy’s extensive r…
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Episode 11: Understanding Value Streams with Chris Dutta
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In this episode with Chris Dutta co-founder and head of consulting at Dragonfly whose focus is on quality engineering, Curiosity Software hosts Huw Price and Rich Jordan explore the exponential benefits of implemening value stream management (VSM). Dutta succinctly describes VSM as a set of activities improving the end-to-end flow, quality and the …
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Episode 36: Growing the next generation of business psychologists – A Conversation with Dr Dawn H. Nicholson, Vice Chair of the ABP
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In a special edition of the ABP podcast series, recorded to mark National Career Development Month November 2023, we hear Dawn Nicholson in conversation with Rob Feltham. Drawing a highly successful career which has spanned business and academia, Dawn has led pioneering initiatives for the Association for Business Psychology which have included bui…
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Episode 10: Improving Enterprise Wide Collaboration with Chris Rowett
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In this follow up episode with DevOps and Digital Transformation leader Chris Rowett, Curiosity Software hosts Huw Price and Rich Jordan touch on Dora metrics. Used in isolation these benchmarks which include deployment frequency, lead time for change, recovery and change failure, can be seen to measure business performance. Another issue is that t…
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Episode 9: Transforming Large Organisations with Chris Rowett
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Welcome to episode 9 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? Podcast, hosted by Curiosity Software's Huw Price and Rich Jordan! In this episode, our hosts are joined by Chris Rowett, DevOps & Digital Transformation Leader, together they explore the challenges associated with bringing change to large organisations! Organisational change is painful and disr…
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Episode 35: Infinite perspectives, embracing the power of diversity -– A conversation with Joy Maitland, Managing Director of Inemmo UK
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In a special edition of the ABP podcast series, recorded during Black History Month 2023, we hear Joy Maitland in conversation with Dawn Nicholson. The discussion delves deep into the heart of inclusivity, unravelling the immense potential that lies within embracing diversity and exploring the boundless strength that diverse perspectives bring to t…
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Episode 8: The Liberated Tester’s Mindset with Gunesh Patil
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Welcome to episode 8 of the Why Didn’t You Test That? Podcast, hosted by by Curiosity Software's Huw Price and Rich Jordan! In this follow-up episode with Gunesh Patil, The Liberated Tester, Rich and Gunesh share their insights into what it means to be a liberated tester and how they approached the adoption of agile methodologies! Rich and Gunesh p…
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Episode 34: Stop, think and ask ‘what is the problem’ ? A conversation with Professor Rob Briner
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Rob Briner is an inspirational thought leader in the field of evidence based practice in management and HR. In a wide ranging discussion with Rob Feltham he highlights the dangers of business psychologists and other practitioners becoming submersed in “activity” without considering sufficiently how their work addresses the client organization’s ove…
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Episode 7: The Model-Based Tester’s Journey with Gunesh Patil
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Why Didn’t You Test That? guest Gunesh Patil shares insights on his journey beyond the misunderstandings and misconceptions in Model-Based Testing alongside Curiosity Software's Rich Jordan! Rich and Gunesh previously worked together on major SI projects managing transformational change of a disparate systems in a medium-sized organisation. They ch…
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Episode 6: The Impact of Virtualisation in Testing
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Is virtualisation given its rightful place in test design? Deployed in a loosely coupled system, speed and flow increase, whilst reducing technical debt. Team alignment and version handling is improved, setting the terrain for better software delivery. Welcome to this episode of the podcast Why Didn’t You Test That? Moving from expertise in origina…
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Episode 33: Performance, well-being and collaboration through a mindset of Growth - A conversation with Rich Cook, CEO of Mindset Practice
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Rich is the founder of Mindset Practice and author of an evidence-based suite of applied humanistic psychology solutions, including innovative psychometrics, that enable people to perform more consistently from a mindset of Growth than Survival. In discussion with Alex Forsythe, Rich describes how he has drawn on psychological models from areas suc…
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Episode 5: Critical Thinking in Test Design
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In this episode, Paul Gerrard, award-winning software engineering consultant, author and coach, brings his experience to the Why Didn't You Test That? Podcast! Together with Curiosity Software's hosts Huw Price and Rich Jordan, Paul Gerrard discusses the difficulties of organisational hierarchies and how to identify ‘stakeholders’ as your ‘internal…
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Episode 32: Putting psychology into practice: A discussion with Sunaina Sinha Haldea, Global Head of Private Capital Advisory, Raymond James
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Sunaina Sinha Haldea began life from humble beginnings, playing on the streets of India and Vietnam as a child - yet went on to found leading global placement agent and secondaries advisory firm Cebile Capital in 2011, which was subsequently acquired by Raymond James, a Fortune-500 financial services firm, where she now works as Global Head of Priv…
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Episode 4: Aligning Testing to Quality with Marcus Merrell
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In this episode, Marcus Merrell, Vice President of Technology at Sauce Labs, bring his experience to the Why Didn't You Test That? Podcast! Together with Curiosity Software's hosts Huw Price and Rich Jordan, Marcus Merrell discusses the lack of innovation in the testing space over the last 20 years, and why testing should be at the centre of qualit…
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Episode 3: Bad Data in Software Delivery!
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Bad data but also production data. Curiosity Software's Huw Price and Rich Jordan move the conversation on from GDPR compliance to bad data in software delivery. Together they explore the concept of the data gambler and sceptic, and the tension of using commercially live data in software delivery. Asking, is data more than a side gig for organisati…
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Episode 2: What GDPR Means For Software Delivery
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GDPR (general data protection regulation) and what it means for software testing and delivery. Guest Tom Pryce, Communications Manager, Curiosity Software, brings his knowledge to ep2 of Why Didn't You Test That? What GDPR Means For Software Delivery. We’re exploring plenty of ideas including: was the grace period of 2 years prior to GDPR legislati…
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Episode 1: Organisational Behavioural Change In Test
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In this pilot episode of the Why Didn't You Test That Podcast, Curiosity Software's Huw Price and Rich Jordan outline their 50+ combined years of experience, what to expect from this new podcast and invite you to join the conversation. Hear their perspectives on organisational behavioural change and how it can promote better and faster software dev…
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Episode 31: Overcoming ageism in the workplace and society - A conversation with Lyndsey Simpson, CEO of 55 Redefined
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The rapidly increasing age profile of the UK’s workforce creates both strategic and psychological challenges for employers, for individuals, and for society as a whole. Lyndsey Simpson works across a wide range of industries and sectors to help employers revamp their recruitment and employment practices with regard to older workers. In this episode…
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Episode 30: An interview with Jo Maddocks, author of the Emotional Intelligence Profile
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Dr Jolyon (Jo) Maddocks has played an influential role in the development of psychometrically based approaches to the assessment and development of emotional intelligence. In conversation here with Rob Feltham, he provides a fascinating account of how the emotional intelligence concept originally captured the imagination of business leaders and rap…
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Episode 29: The curse of evaluative bias in psychometrics and moving beyond it – A conversation with Stewart Desson, CEO of Lumina learning
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In discussion with Rob Feltham, Stewart shares his innovative approach to personality assessment, and in particular how he has worked to overcome reductionism and evaluative bias. Topics covered include: neurodivergence as a continuum; personality as a lens through which to understand the impacts of the ‘enforced experiment’ of remote working durin…
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Episode 28: Brand resilience in turbulent times – A conversation with Nathalie Nahai, author of Business Unusual
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In a wide-ranging discussion with Rob Feltham, Nathalie shares her insights into factors that help make some businesses and brands resilient and sustainable in competitive markets and during challenging times. Topics covered include the Thoughtful Marketing movement, the interaction of values-based consumer choices and purchasing power, and the mar…
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Episode 27: Empowering the volunteer – A conversation with Sakshi Bansal, UNESCO Kindness Leader
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This special podcast episode features Sakshi Bansal, recipient of the 2021 ABP Chair’s Award for Excellence in Business Psychology, in recognition of her pioneering work as founder of Project LEAP. In conversation with Alex Forsythe, Sakshi gives a fascinating description of how she took LEAP from small beginnings to an initiative with world-wide i…
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Episode 26: Workplace wellbeing during challenging times – A conversation with Claire de Carteret
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In an engaging discussion with Alex Forsythe, Claire de Carteret points to alarming current trends in workplace well-being globally, and offers practical advice to leaders and employees about how to create exceptional workplaces which have net positive impact on people and the planet. Claire makes a compelling case for adopting a strengths based ap…
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Episode 25: A single voice can make a difference – An interview with Nuala Walsh
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In an absorbing discussion with Alex Forsythe, Nuala discusses her research into bystander effects in organisations, and outlines the practical steps that companies can take to encourage their employees to ‘blow the whistle’ on unethical behaviours. Nuala also discusses her own career and explains some of the career routes available to those lookin…
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Episode 24: Work is broken – An interview with Rob Baker, author of ‘Personalisation at Work’
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In conversation with Rob Feltham prior to his presentation to the recent ABP annual conference, Rob Baker discusses why modern work practices are failing us - constraining rather than amplifying our diverse skills, strengths, passions and interests. Globally over 90% of us aren’t engaged, excited, and energised about our jobs. Rob argues that Job C…
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Episode 23: The pace of change is too slow – A conversation with John Amaechi, OBE
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In an absorbing discussion with Alex Forsythe, John Amaechi talks about his background, his views on leadership and the supposed ‘new normal’, and the need for radical change in a post Covid world. He also shares some of his personal experiences and perspectives on life. John is a respected organisational psychologist, best-selling New York Times a…
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Episode 22: An interview with Ian Robertson, author of ‘How Confidence Works’
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In conversation with Rob Feltham, Professor Ian Robertson discusses some of the themes from his recently published and critically acclaimed book entitled How Confidence Works. He describes how confidence is something of a self-fulfilling prophecy and how it can be enhanced, and he draws attention to the upsides and downsides of overconfidence and n…
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Episode 21: Feeling abnormal in an abnormal world – A discussion with Dr Nancy Doyle about neurodiversity and organisational inclusion
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In discussion with ABP Board member Guy Cohen, Dr Nancy Doyle provides a challenging critique of how organisations ‘tick the box of diversity inclusion’ whilst their recruitment and development practices perpetuate segregation. She also points to the failings of the education system in preparing young people for the workplace. She brings clarity to…
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