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Theology in Motion

The Center for Worship Leadership

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Join Steve Zank for conversations about the theology of Christian worship and how it is relates to practice, design, and culture. The "Theology in Motion" podcast is produced by the Center For Worship Leadership, Christ College, Concordia University Irvine, CA. "Theology In Motion" is a part of the Center for Worship Leadership Podcast Network, for more information and other shows see us at cwlonline.org.
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In this episode we share Rev. Jeff Cloeter's plenary from the 2023 Worship Arts Leader Initiative (WALi) Summit: Worship Leaders as Loved and Sent. Be encouraged - you are much, much more than your achievements - you are loved by God in Jesus! SHOW NOTES Links to Pastor Cloeter's Book:https://www.amazon.com/Loved-Sent-Words-Define-Matter/dp/1938840…
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In this conversation with Rev. Dr. Mike Middendorf and Kip Fox, we explore the song "Psalm 65 (Hope Has an Answer)" based upon the text of Psalm 65 - a part of The Center for Worship Leadership's Psalm Library. We discuss: 1. the exegesis of Psalm 65, 2. what it is like for a songwriter to work with an academic theologian (and vice versa), and 3. g…
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In this conversation with Paul Elliott, Emily Bartels and Kip Fox we explore the song "Psalm 56 (Your Promise)" based upon the text of Psalm 56 - a part of CWL's Psalm Library. We discuss: 1. the exegesis of Psalm 56, 2. what it is like for a songwriter to work with an academic theologian (and vice versa), 3. going "behind the music" of "Psalm 56 (…
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In this episode we share one of Rev. Dr. Zac Hick's plenaries from the 2022 Worship Arts Leader Initiative (WALi) Summit: Worship as an Operating Room. SHOW NOTES Links to Zac's Recent work: Worship by Faith Alone: Thomas Cranmer, the Book of Common Prayer, and the Reformation of Liturgy Before We Gather: Devotions for Worship Leaders and Teams The…
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In this episode we share one of Rev. Dr. Zac Hick's plenaries from the 2022 Worship Arts Leader Initiative (WALi) Summit: Worship as a Wormhole. SHOW NOTES Links to Zac's Recent work: Worship by Faith Alone: Thomas Cranmer, the Book of Common Prayer, and the Reformation of Liturgy Before We Gather: Devotions for Worship Leaders and Teams The Worshi…
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In this episode we share one of Rev. Dr. Zac Hick's plenaries from the 2022 Worship Arts Leader Initiative (WALi) Summit: Worship as Gymnasium. SHOW NOTES Links to Zac's Recent work: Worship by Faith Alone: Thomas Cranmer, the Book of Common Prayer, and the Reformation of Liturgy Before We Gather: Devotions for Worship Leaders and Teams The Worship…
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In this conversation with Chad Bird, Ben Lange and Kip Fox we explore the song "Psalm 1 (That Man)" based upon the text of Psalm 1 - a part of CWL's Psalm Library. We discuss: 1. the exegesis of Psalm 1, 2. what it is like for a songwriter to work with an academic theologian (and vice versa), 3. going "behind the music" of "Psalm 1 (That Man)." SHO…
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In this episode, Michael talks about his discovery about how the most destructive patterns in his history have been rooted in a story of not being enough. This realization has made him refocus his mission to the point that he is restructuring all of his life, work, and business. Support this new work at www.patreon.com/michaelgungor…
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“What do I love when I love my God?” This is a famous question asked in St. Augustine’s “Confessions” that many people through the centuries have pondered and wrestled with. I too have wrestled with that question. And I can tell you it wasn’t just a theoretical or casual philosophical conversation for me. For me, it felt like the slow breaking of a…
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In this conversation with Dr. Swee Hong Lim and Rev. Dr. Lester Ruth we explore: 1. the history and impact of the "gap" movement within contemporary praise and worship (CPaW), 2. the influence of cultural considerations on CPaW, and 3. how modern Christian music is influenced by CPaW - as it appears in their new book A History of Contemporary Prais…
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In this conversation with Dr. Swee Hong Lim and Rev. Dr. Lester Ruth we explore: 1. the history and impact of the "gift" movement within contemporary praise and worship (CPaW), 2. the influence of Reg Layzell and others on CPaW, and 3. how modern Christian music is influenced by CPaW - as it appears in their new book A History of Contemporary Prais…
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In this conversation with Dr. Tim Saleska and Kip Fox we explore the song "The Longest Night" based upon Psalm 42 - a part of CWL's Psalm Library. We discuss: 1. the exegesis of Psalm 42, 2. what it is like for a songwriter to work with an academic theologian (and vice versa), 3. going "behind the music" of "The Longest Night".…
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In this stimulating conversation with Rev. Dr. W. David O. Taylor we explore his book Glimpses of the New Creation: Worship and the Formative Power of the Arts. - We discuss: 1. the role of the arts in worship, 2. the unique powers of different art forms, 3. arts' influence on theology and vice-versa, and 4. the ways our aesthetic choices open up a…
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Singing together is not only a potentially powerful spiritual technology and form of spiritual community, but it’s good for you! Studies have shown singing to be linked to lower stress, better moods, more of a sense of connection, and many more benefits. In this podcast, Michael Gungor announces that he will be leading some simple chants and musica…
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In this conversation with Rev. Dr. Timothy Saleska we dive deeply into the text of Psalm 22:3 - as a Lutherans trying to understand what it means for God to be "enthroned on the praises of Israel" (ESV). - We discuss: 1. the exegesis of Psalm 22, 2. the discrepancy between the Septuagint and Hebrew in regard to Psalm 22:3, and 3. what it can tell u…
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In this conversation with Rev. Dr. Matthew Kaemingk we explore the book Work and Worship - Reconnecting Our Labor and Liturgy. We discuss: 1. What it looks like for workers to bring their whole selves to worship (trumpets, ashes, tears, petitions, and fruits), 2. How worship enlivens and contextualizes the workplace, 3. The Old Testament and Early …
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In this conversation with Dr. CJ Armstrong, Kip Fox, and Ariel McMahon we explore the song "Out of the Depths" based upon Psalm 130 - a part of CWL's Psalm Libary. We discuss: 1. the exegesis of Psalm 130, 2. what it is like for a songwriter to work with an academic theologian (and vice versa), 3. going "behind the music" of "Out of the Depths". If…
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In this conversation with Rev. Dr. Lester Ruth we explore: 1. the sources of contemporary praise and worship (CPaW), 2. stereotypes in regard to traditional and CPaW styles, 3. the storytelling aspect of worship, and 4. the future of the relationship between CPaW and traditional worship. If shownotes do not appear, follow this link: https://theolog…
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In this conversation with Rev. Dr. Constance Cherry we explore her book The Worship Architect: 1. God's blueprint for worship, 2. the leader's role in designing services, 3. how worship designers engage culture, and 4. criteria for song selection. The Worship Architect Selecting Worship Songs Worship Like Jesus If shownotes do not appear, follow th…
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In this conversation with Drs. Rhoda Schuler and Kent Burreson we explore their Calvin Institute of Worship funded research project involving worship and the catechumanate: 1. the implications of baptism for the local community of faith, 2. the integration of worship and discipleship, 3. the ways in which rituals form us, and 4. the four stages of …
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In the wake of a disturbing week (and year) (and four years) (and however long humans have been around), we are confronted with what feels to be such vivid displays of evil in the world. What is evil exactly? Is it real? Is it objective? What do we even mean when we talk about good and evil and how does it relate to who we are and how we live?…
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In this conversation with Rev. Bob Sundquist we explore the biblical narrative of baptism starting in a seemingly unlikely place: the Old Testament. Bob's Appearance on "Preacher's Studio" The Walk for All Mankind Episode If shownotes do not appear, follow this link: https://theologyinmotion.libsyn.com/baptism-and-the-old-testament-sundquist…
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In this conversation with Dr. Paul Elliott and Kip Fox we explore the song "Long Live the King" based upon Psalm 72 - a part of CWL's Psalm Libary Initiative and: 1. the exegesis of Psalm 72, 2. what it is like for a songwriter to work with an academic theologian (and vice versa), 3. going "behind the music" with the songwriters of 'Long Live the K…
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In this conversation with Dr. Simeon Zahl we explore his latest book, The Holy Spirit and Christian Experience, and what it has to say about leading worship: 1. moving past the false dichotomy of theology and experience, 2. the distinction between law and gospel in worship, 3. the ways in which the Holy Spirit's work is connected to salvation and h…
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Co-hosted by Kip Fox, in this conversation with Rev. Dr. Mark Mattes we explore: 1. Mark's book Martin Luther's Theology of Beauty, 2. What makes worship "beautiful," 3. The distinction between theological and creation categories for beauty, and 4. The role of the artist in worship. Martin Luther's Theology of Beauty If shownotes do not appear, fol…
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In this conversation with Rev. Dr. Glenn Packiam we explore: 1. Glenn's latest book on christian hope in contemporary worship, 2. worship as faith formation, 3. how worship songs are encoded and experienced, 4. encouragements for pastors, songwriters and worship leaders, 5. theological ethnography and research methods. Worship and the World to Come…
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What is grace? Is it a magical power-up potion? A thought in the mind of God? A metaphor for fortunate moments in life? In this episode, Michael takes a deep dive into the idea of grace and offers his thoughts on why so many religious traditions have some sort of concept of it.By The Liturgists Network
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In this conversation with Rev. Dr. Joel Oesch we explore: 1. the opportunities and challenges of online worship during the Covid-19 lockdown, 2. what we can learn for the future of the church, 3. the theological implications of incarnations and digital excarnation in worship. Joel's Book "More Than a Pretty Face." Ep. 1 on Surveys Ep 2 with Drs. Jo…
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In this conversation with Rev. Zac Hicks and Dr. Robert Kolb we explore: 1. Zac's recent doctoral work regarding Thomas Cramner's commitment to "faith alone" in the Book of Common Prayer. 2. How our view of justification defines our approach to worship as individuals and as a church. 3. The ways in which the rediscovery of justification by faith al…
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In this conversation with Dr. Joe Herl we explore: 1. comparing Luther and Rome on the Lord's Supper. 2. the power of music. 3. the impact of pietism on sacramental traditions. 3. lessons for worship from Lutheran Service Book (LSB). Links (Visit episode website for active links) Take a look at Joe's book on Amazon. Check out the LSB and it's Hymn …
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On this recap episode from the 2019 WALi Summit listen to conversations with 2 attendees: Brandon Li, Paul Kasaty, and two presenters: Dr. Steve Mueller, and Dr. Michael Eschelbach. Consider joining us for the 2020 WALi Summit in Irvine, CA. Save June 28-July 3, and we will be back with more information regarding registration and exact dates. Thank…
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In this conversation with Dr. Reed Lessing we explore: 1. Isaiah 6. 2. are you "holy?" How do you know? 3. what does it mean to worship a holy God? 4. what's the relationship between the heavenly and the earthly in worship? 5. what is the role of confession and absolution in worship? Shownotes (Visit episode website for active links) Take a look at…
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In this conversation with Dr. Glenn Fluegge and Dr. Jim Marriott we explore: 1. the cultural challenges facing the American church, especially its worship practices. 2. anecdotal stories from West Africa. 3. methods for navigating culture's influence on issues of worship. 4. a framework of understanding cultural engagement in 4 different dimensions…
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