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What are the significant innovations shaping the future of learning? How is digital technology and scientific discovery changing the way we learn, train, teach and educate? Join John Helmer in conversation with the people who are visioning and actively creating that future. Published fortnightly (don't forget to subscribe!).
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1 LH #112: Learning Futures 3 with Kevin Oakes, Kim McMurdo and Terry Jones 1:15:31
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Leading Through Culture, Teams, and AI-driven Change John Helmer discusses organizational culture, collective leadership, and AI's impact on future workplaces with Kevin Oakes (CEO, i4cp), Kim McMurdo (Global Head of OD, Standard Chartered), and Terry Jones (International Head of Talent Development, ex-PaloAlto Networks). Key themes include culture renovation, developing team-centric leadership capabilities, and leveraging AI for enhanced human productivity in rapidly evolving organizations. The McKinsey paper mentioned in Kim's interview: De Smet, A., D’Auria, G., Meijknecht, L., Albaharna, M., & Fifer, A. (2024, October 31). Go, teams: When teams get healthier, the whole organization benefits. McKinsey & Company . This article is available online at https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/people-and-organizational-performance/our-insights/go-teams-when-teams-get-healthier-the-whole-organization-benefits . (Please note that access to the full text may require a subscription or purchase.) Timestamps: 00:00:00 – Start 00:01:09 – Intro 00:03:31 – Kevin Oakes on culture renovation vs. culture change 00:27:58 – Kim McMurdo on collective leadership and hybrid teams 00:48:41 – Terry Jones on innovation, disruption, and practical AI use 01:14:59 – End Contact: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer X: @johnhelmer Bluesky: @johnhelmer.bsky.social Website: learninghackpodcast.com…

1 LH #111 Is D.E.I. Now D.O.A.? with Amri B. Johnson 52:27
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The Battle To Keep Inclusion on the Organizational Agenda. Is Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (D.E.I.) under existential threat? With political shifts and corporate cutbacks, is this the end of D.E.I. as we know it—or just a moment of transformation? In this episode, John Helmer speaks with Amri B. Johnson, author of Reconstructing Inclusion and CEO of Inclusion Wins, about the evolving landscape of D.E.I. in the workplace. They discuss whether D.E.I. is fundamentally flawed, if it will persist under different branding, and how organizations should adapt to changing times. Amri's links: Dr. Jonathan Ashong-Lamptey https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjonathan/ Dr. Lauran Star https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauranstar/ Dr. David Livermore https://davidlivermore.com / Dr. R. Roosevelt Thomas, Jr. https://sdms360.com/2017/11/30/the-shamming-of-diversity/ Frederick G. Falker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajf1iMlwi_o Peter Mousaferiadis https://www.linkedin.com/in/petermousaferiadis/ Aubrey Blanche-Sarellano https://www.linkedin.com/in/adblanche/ TIMESTAMPS: • 00:00 – Start • 01:09 – Intro • 04:36 – Does he still have a job? • 11:30 – Is the language of D.E.I. one of the problems with it? • 22:19 – Will D.E.I. persist, but change its name and go underground? • 25:40 – How does he respond to the studies that show D.E.I. training doesn’t work? • 30:26 – Is D.E.I. just ‘woke capital’ at work? • 51:41 – End Connect with Amri B. Johnson: • Website: Inclusion Wins • LinkedIn: Amri B. Johnson’s Profile • Twitter: @amribjohnson Follow The Learning Hack: Website: learninghackpodcast.com LinkedIn: John Helmer X (Twitter): @johnhelmer Bluesky: @johnhelmer.bsky.social…

1 LH #110 Will AI Wipe Out L&D? with Robert Guidi 1:10:03
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In this episode, John Helmer engages with UK-based artificial intelligence expert Robert Guidi to explore the potential impact of AI on Learning and Development (L&D). With a background in data science and technology policy, Robert has worked across industries to help organizations navigate the opportunities and risks of AI adoption, translating complex AI concepts into practical strategies. They discuss whether AI poses an existential threat to the L&D profession or offers new opportunities for growth and innovation. The conversation delves into practical applications of AI in L&D, the challenges of implementation, and the future landscape of learning technologies. They also discuss the book Robert is writing: ‘ChatL&D: A Practical Guide to AI-Powered Performance Support’. Support the crowd funder for the book here (This link will be live from 4 March 2025) Timestamps: • 00:01:09 - Intro • 00:03:36 - Does the world need another book about AI? • 00:12:30 - Is AI an existential threat to L&D? • 00:17:31 - An opportunity for 70/20/10 approaches? • 00:25:27 - Generic versus specialized software tools • 00:28:43 - The problem of ‘model drift’ • 00:31:35 - Implementation challenges • 00:43:23 - Change Management • 00:45:31 - Agentic AI • 00:55:29 - Small language models • 01:05:41 - When will the book come out? • 01:09:11 - End Contact Robert Guidi: • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robertguidi Connect with Us: • Website: www.learninghackpodcast.com • Twitter: @johnhelmer • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-learning-hack-podcast…

1 LH #109 The Skills Dat Pay da Bills with Teresa Rose 51:13
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Mastering Skills Tech: Implementation, Validation & Organizational Change. In this episode, we delve into the evolving landscape of skills technology with Teresa Rose, an award-winning learning and performance consultant and founder of ConsultHer Ltd. With over 16 years of experience in organizational and people development, Teresa shares her insights on implementing skills technology, the importance of skills validation, and how organizations can adapt to make skills initiatives successful. We also explore topics such as process mapping, change management, and designing effective reskilling journeys. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of how to leverage skills to drive organizational success. Timestamps: • 00:00 – Start • 01:09 - Intro • 03:35 - Implementing skills technology • 07:45 - Skills validation • 10:31 - Data sources for skills tech • 21:22 - How does an organization need to adapt to make skills technology work? • 24:24 - Process mapping • 29:08 - Change management • 37:44 - Skills portfolio management • 40:23 - Designing reskilling journeys • 46:45 - Further reading • 49:06 - End Guest Contact Information: Teresa Rose • Website: www.consulther.co.uk • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teresar Resources Mentioned: • Guy W. Wallace’s work on process mapping and performance improvement • Peter Sheppard’s insights on skill sensing networks at Ericsson • Uncommon Sense by Julia Galef – a recommended read on decision-making and critical thinking • The Oxford Review – for research on competencies and skills in organizational performance Connect with Us: • Website: www.learninghackpodcast.com • Twitter: @johnhelmer • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-learning-hack-podcast…

1 LH #108 Everything You Know About Learning Theory Is Wrong with Nick Shackleton-Jones 1:14:53
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Challenging assumptions about learning, performance, and the rise of AI. Nick Shackleton-Jones returns to The Learning Hack to challenge assumptions about learning theory, discuss his Affective Context Model, and reflect on the future of workplace learning. From TikTok as a learning platform to the risks of deceptive AI, this thought-provoking conversation will inspire and provoke in equal measure. Prepare for fresh insights and bold perspectives from one of learning’s great minds. 00:00:00 - Start 00:01:09 - Intro 00:03:40 - TikTok: the ultimate learning platform? 00:09:28 - What has Nick been doing in the last 5 years? 00:22:43 - Is learning ROI based on magical thinking 00:27:37 - How has his thinking changed since he first wrote ‘How People Learn’? 00:36:26 - Have digital media become too poisonous for learning? 00:42:37 - Has the move to performance support really happened in L&D? 00:47:05 - AI: Is Nick a P-Doomer? 01:09:41 - Who does he follow in learning? 01:13:03 - End Contact John Helmer LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer X: @johnhelmer Bluesky: @johnhelmer.bsky.social Website: learninghackpodcast.com…

1 LH #107 OEB Show Special with Gerd Leonhard, Laura Overton, Maribel Reyes Millán & Donald H. Taylor 1:21:55
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Voices from Berlin: Learning in the Age of AI. In this episode, John Helmer reports from the Online Educa Berlin (OEB) Conference, engaging with four influential voices in learning and development: futurist Gerd Leonhard, workplace learning expert Laura Overton, digital education innovator Maribel Reyes-Millán, and L&D thought leader Donald H. Taylor. Together, they discuss the transformative power of AI, strategies for navigating disruption, and the evolving demands of learning in an uncertain world. 00:00:00 - Start 00:01:06 - Intro 00:03:08 - Gerd Leonhard 00:22:32 - Laura Overton 00:46:23 - Maribel Reyes Millán 01:00:52 - Donald H. Taylor 01:21:06 - End Contact John Helmer LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer X: @johnhelmer Bluesky: @johnhelmer.bsky.social Website: learninghackpodcast.com…

1 GMoLS6E37 Question Time with Donald Clark 1:07:13
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Revisiting Learning Theories: Insights and Challenges for the Future In this special live episode of Great Minds on Learning, recorded at Online Educa Berlin 2024, Donald Clark and John Helmer tackle listener questions about learning theory’s relevance, biases, and practical applications. They reflect on three years of the podcast, exploring 2,500 years of educational thought, and discuss the future of learning, including the transformative impact of AI. Engaging and insightful, this episode is a must-listen for learning professionals and enthusiasts alike. 00:00 - Start 00:59 - Introducing GMoL Question Time 08:17 - Why this podcast? 30:52 - What are the ‘lessons learned’? 47:48 - What next? AI and the future of institutional learning The Blog that started it all: https://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/2021/09/these-were-written-as-quick-readable.html Contact Donald X: @DonaldClark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-clark-04553022/ Blog: http://donaldclarkplanb.blogspot.com/ Contact John Helmer X: @johnhelmer Email: john@learninghackpodcast.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: https://learninghackpodcast.com/…
Breaking Barriers: Disability Awareness and Cultural Change in Workplaces In this episode, Chris Jay, founder of Bascule Disability Training, shares insights into creating inclusive workplaces and tackling stereotypes about disability. Drawing from personal experiences as a wheelchair user with cerebral palsy, Chris discusses the economic benefits of inclusion, the challenges of hidden disabilities, and the importance of cultural change. He also explores disability representation in media through his film initiative, Bascule Entertainment, advocating for authentic, empowering narratives. 00:00 - Start 00:51 - Intro 08:31 - Has disabilty awareness improved? 12:42 - The economic case for workplace inclusivity 15:42 - Hidden disabilities 20:04 - Does DEI training work? 24:03 - What really works in inclusiveness training? 28:51 - Do mental health disabiities get more ‘airtime’ nowadays than physical? 31:14 - Chris’s work in showbiz 36:55 - Where does he go for inspiration and information? 40:02 – End Follow Chris Jay: · LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/chris-jay-bascule · Websites: bascule.com (Bascule Disability Training) bascule.com/training/business-training (Training for Businesses) bascule.com/online-training (Bascule's online training) Email: chris@bascule.com Contact John Helmer X: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer Website: learninghackpodcast.com Patreon: patreon.com/LearningHack…
Send in your questions for the Great Minds on Learning Q&A! Donald Clark and John Helmer will answer them at Online Educa Conference in Berlin, which will be recorded for a podcast episode to be issued before Christmas 2024. Email them in to john@learninghackpodcast.com or reach out on social media.…

1 LH #105: Learning Futures 2 with Anne-Valérie Corboz, Jane Underwood & Sarah Otley 1:14:21
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Strategic Insights on Leadership, AI, and Skills for Tomorrow John Helmer explores the future of learning with Anne-Valérie Corboz (HEC Paris), Jane Underwood (Reckitt), and Sarah Otley (Akkodis Academy). They discuss leadership evolution, generative AI’s impact, and strategies for building future-ready skills. From innovation challenges to aligning L&D with business goals, this episode offers actionable insights for learning professionals navigating rapid technological change and preparing for tomorrow’s workplace. A must-listen for those shaping the future of education and work. 00:00:00 - Start 00:01:11 - Intro 00:01:50 - Anne_Valerie Corboz 00:22:45 - Ad - iVentiv 00:23:26 - Jane Underwood 00:43:32 - Sarah Otley 01:13:49 – End Guest contacts: Anne-Valérie Corboz: Associate Dean for Executive Education at HEC Paris. Email: annevaleriecorboz@gmail.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/corboz X: @AnneVCorboz Jane Underwood: Global Head of Learning at Reckitt. LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/janeunderwoodorganisationaldevelopment X: @JaneUnderwood Sarah Otley: Global Head of Akkodis Academy. LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sarah-otley-0a065620 X: @SarahOtley Contact John Helmer X: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer Website: learninghackpodcast.com…

1 LH #104 AI Beyond the Low-Hanging Fruit 1:14:21
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The Future of Learning with AI: Moving Past Simple Applications to Transformational Impact (Learning Leaders pilot) This episode premieres the newest podcast from the Learning Hack stable, Learning Leaders, produced by NIIT in association with The Learning Hack. In this pilot episode, John explores the future of AI learning with Gregg Collins and Sailesh Lalla. Moving beyond content creation, they discuss how AI can drive performance by delivering personalized, real-time learning experiences. Discover the next wave of AI-powered simulations, intelligent tutoring, and immersive learning that goes beyond traditional courses, aiming to transform how organizations approach skill-building and unlock true business impact. 00:00:00 - Start 00:00:18 - Intro 00:02:03 - Will AI only intensify L&D’s addiction to courses 00:07:12 - Will AI be a solution looking for a problem in learning (like VR?) 00:19:44 - Does interacting with AI teach management skills? 00:38:10 - Learning and The Business 00:44:04 - What is the next step in AI for learning? 00:51:35 - What is the top level or goal of NIIT’s maturity model for AI? 01:04:36 - How do we preserve humanity in AI-driven learning? Sponsored by NIIT Website: https://www.niit.com/en/learning-outsourcing/ Follow Greg: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/gregg-collins-54a3971 Email: gregg.collins@niit.com Follow Sailesh: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sailesh-lalla-3224b2 Email: saileshl@niit.com Contact John Helmer X: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer Website: learninghackpodcast.com Patreon: patreon.com/LearningHack…

1 LH #103 Hillbilly Podcasters with Brigid McCormack 44:29
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Exploring Appalachia’s Culture and Countering Stereotypes Through Podcasting In this episode, John Helmer is joined by Brigid McCormack, podcast producer and researcher, to discuss her study on podcasting in the Appalachian region of the United States. Brigid shares how local podcasters in this culturally rich yet often stereotyped region are using the medium to tell authentic stories and challenge long-standing negative narratives. She also touches on the power of oral storytelling and podcasting as a learning medium and reflects on her role at Assemble You. For her research, McCormack focused on four podcasts created by five podcasters from the Appalachian region: Appodlachia by Chuck Corra: A podcast that takes a critical look at politics and economics in Appalachia, often addressing current issues and challenging stereotypes. What's Appalachian? by Gabe and Cody: A more casual, conversational podcast where the hosts discuss their daily lives, providing an authentic glimpse into contemporary Appalachian experiences. Now Appalachia by Eliot Parker: This podcast focuses on storytelling and also touches on political and social issues in the region. Appalachian Imagination by Jason: A conversational podcast featuring local friends and community members, offering diverse perspectives on Appalachian life. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 03:44 - Brigid’s research work on digital futures 06:03 - About Appalachia 07:49 - Appalachian stereotypes 16:47 - What did she learn about Appalachia? 19:19 - What podcast formats did they use? 23:23 - What conclusions did she draw from her work? 29:22 - What did she learn about learning? 39:51 - Her role at Assemble You 43:31 - End Follow Brigid McCormack: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/brigid-mccormack Website: podsandprose.com Contact John Helmer X: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer Website: learninghackpodcast.com Patreon: patreon.com/LearningHack…

1 LH #102 AI Learning: the Rubber Hits the Road with Saskia Huussen, Sanne Mateman, and Callum Clark 56:31
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An innovative performance support project in healthcare points the way to significant productivity improvements. In this episode, John Helmer is joined by Saskia Huusen, Sanne Mateman, and Callum Clark to discuss a groundbreaking AI-powered learning project at the Alrijne Healthcare Group. This practical conversation dives deep into the real-world application of AI in learning, demonstrating eye-opening time savings and efficiency improvements in a healthcare setting. The team shares how they implemented AI to improve workflow learning for surgical assistants, reducing SME time by 70% and shortening project timelines by 40%. They discuss the challenges of working with AI, how it differs from traditional performance support, and what they’ve learned through this innovative project. For anyone interested in AI for learning, this episode is packed with valuable insights on integrating AI into workplace learning. Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 02:57 - Introducing the project 06:11 - Meet the team 09:51 - What part did AI play? 12:13 - What couldn’t be done by more traditional means? 14:54 - How different was project management? 20:41 - Did it help that they are young? 23:01 - The solution 29:14 - What did they learn as a team from doing the project? 43:02 - What are they doing next? 50:33 - Who to follow on AI (and who to avoid!) 54:58 - End Follow Saskia Huusen: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/saskia-huussen Website (company): https://xprtise.com/en/ Follow Sanne Mateman: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sanne-mateman Follow Callum Clark: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/callumclark Contact John Helmer X: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer Website: learninghackpodcast.com Patreon: patreon.com/LearningHack…

1 LH #101 Learning Futures with Charles Jennings 51:31
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The Chair of iVentiv’s upcoming Learning Futures conference talks AI, performance and L&D complacency. John Helmer speaks with Charles Jennings, managing director of Duntroon Consultants and a founding partner of the 70:20:10 Institute. Charles has over 40 years of experience in corporate learning and performance improvement and is widely known for advocating the 70:20:10 framework. The conversation delves into the future of workplace learning, exploring how L&D professionals can evolve their strategies to drive organizational success in a rapidly changing environment. Charles shares his thoughts on generative AI and its potential role in reshaping learning. He also discusses the importance of shifting focus from individual learning to team performance, emphasizing that teams are the “atomic units” of delivery in any organization. The episode further explores the current obsession with skills mapping and competency frameworks, with Charles offering a more holistic approach. He challenges the idea that skills development alone can drive organizational excellence and highlights the broader systemic factors that contribute to high performance. 00:00 - Start 03:16 - Is his a ‘restless intelligence?’ 06:19 - Will Gen AI prevent or reinforce bad habits in L&D 09:39 - Implications of AI for L&D’s role in the organisation 12:54 - The ‘skills obsession’ of L&D 17:17 - Are skills mapping exercises a waste of money 21:08 - Are we getting any better at thinking systemically 25:52 - Performance support: what are we waiting for 35:26 - Teams and social media 39:56 - Introducing the iVentiv conference Charles is Chairing 45:27 - Who does he follow? 50:41 – End Sponsor link: https://iventiv.com/learninghack Follow Charles LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/charles-jennings 70:20:10 Institute: https://702010institute.com/ Duntroon: http://www.duntroon.com/ Blog: https://charles-jennings.blogspot.com/ Contact John Helmer X: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: https://learninghackpodcast.com/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/LearningHack…
How a top CLO, author and podcaster transforms learning strategy. In this special 100th episode of The Learning Hack podcast, we celebrate a milestone by diving deep into curiosity and corporate learning with Simon Brown, Global Learning and Development Leader at EY and best-selling author of The Curious Advantage. Simon, formerly CLO at Novartis, shares his insights on the pivotal role curiosity plays in driving personal and organizational growth. We explore how AI is reshaping learning landscapes, and Simon offers invaluable lessons on fostering innovation, building effective learning strategies, and navigating rapid change. Join us for an engaging conversation that marks our centenary episode with a true thought leader. 00:00 - Start 00:41 - Intro 03:26 - Why curiosity? 11:22 - Simon’s journey to top CLO 16:09 - How did he form his team at Novartis? 21:15 - How did he get the resources and C-Suite buy-in for the change? 26:58 - How specific is his take on strategy to the sectors he has worked in? 31:34 - His role at EY 36:07 - Is there substance behind the skills hype? 39:34 - Will AI-driven learning shut down curiosity? 47:47 - How does he pursue his own learning, and what sources does he follow? 53:25 - End Sponsor link: https://iventiv.com/learninghack Follow Simon Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/simoncbrown1 The Curious Advantage (podcast): https://open.spotify.com/show/0fhW2Xj66JcumYeh6gljZ The Curious Advantage (book): https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53731453-the-curious-advantage Contact John Helmer X: @johnhelmer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnhelmer/ Website: https://learninghackpodcast.com/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/LearningHack…
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