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In this episode, we welcome back David French, columnist for The New York Times , former constitutional attorney, and author of Divided We Fall . We discuss the current state of American democracy, the challenges of political division, and how we can engage in civil discourse despite deep ideological differences. David also shares a personal update on his family and reflects on the profound trials and growth that come with adversity. 📌 What We Discuss: ✔️ How David and his family navigated the challenges of a serious health crisis. ✔️ The rise of political polarization and the factors driving it. ✔️ Why distinguishing between “unwise, unethical, and unlawful” is crucial in analyzing political actions. ✔️ How consuming different perspectives (even opposing ones) helps in understanding political dynamics. ✔️ The role of Christian values in politics and how they are being redefined. ⏳ Episode Highlights 📍 [00:01:00] – David French’s background and his journey from litigation to journalism. 📍 [00:02:30] – Personal update: David shares his wife Nancy’s battle with cancer and their journey as a family. 📍 [00:06:00] – How to navigate personal trials while maintaining faith and resilience. 📍 [00:10:00] – The danger of political paranoia and the pitfalls of extreme polarization. 📍 [00:18:00] – The "friend-enemy" paradigm in American politics and its influence in Christian fundamentalism. 📍 [00:24:00] – Revisiting Divided We Fall : How America’s divisions have devolved since 2020. 📍 [00:40:00] – The categories and differences of unwise, unethical, and unlawful political actions. 📍 [00:55:00] – The balance between justice, kindness, and humility in political engagement. 📍 [01:00:00] – The After Party initiative: A Christian approach to politics focused on values rather than policy. 💬 Featured Quotes 🔹 "You don't know who you truly are until your values are tested." – David French 🔹 "If we focus on the relational, we can have better conversations even across deep differences." – Corey Nathan 🔹 "Justice, kindness, and humility—if you're missing one, you're doing it wrong." – David French 🔹 "The United States has a history of shifting without repenting. We just move on." – David French 📚 Resources Mentioned David French’s Writing: New York Times David’s Book: Divided We Fall The After Party Initiative – More Info Advisory Opinions Podcast (with Sarah Isgur & David French) – Listen Here 📣 Call to Action If you found this conversation insightful, please: ✅ Subscribe to Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other on your favorite podcast platform. ✅ Leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics ✅ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/politicsandreligion ✅ Watch the full conversation and subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/@politicsandreligion 🔗 Connect With Us on Social Media @coreysnathan: Bluesky LinkedIn Instagram Threads Facebook Substack David French: 🔗 Twitter | BlueSky | New York Times Our Sponsors Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com Prolux Autogroup: www.proluxautogroup.com or www.granadahillsairporttransportation.com Let’s keep talking politics and religion—with gentleness and respect. 🎙️💡…
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The Drew Mariani Show™ tackles the hottest news and issues of the day through the lens of our Catholic Faith. Host Drew Mariani keeps listeners up-to-date with news from the Church and around the world, and prays the Chaplet of Divine Mercy LIVE every weekday
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The Drew Mariani Show™ tackles the hottest news and issues of the day through the lens of our Catholic Faith. Host Drew Mariani keeps listeners up-to-date with news from the Church and around the world, and prays the Chaplet of Divine Mercy LIVE every weekday
Hour 3 for 3/28/25 Peter Grandich joined Drew to discuss the "Ten Factors I’m Most Concerned About" (4:55). Topics US infrastructure (14:15), and real estate (22:05). Then, Msgr. Stephen Rossetti discussed cursed objects (26:28), Laptop with tribal mask (36:52), rocks (39:58), Aztec statues (41:02), tattoos (43:14), and numbers and IDs (45:23). Links: https://petergrandich.com/ten-factors-im-most-concerned-about/ https://omny.fm/shows/the-drew-mariani-show/health-effects-of-tattoos…
Hour 1 for 3/28/25 Drew welcomed EJ Antoni to discuss DOGE efforts (18:24). Then, Aaron Kheriaty discussed his recent articles on suffering (29:55), suffering and disease (37:57), and dealing with my son's sexual misdeeds (43:12). Doce me passionem Tuam "Teach me your suffering" Links: https://catholicexchange.com/author/aaronkheriaty/ https://x.com/AaronKheriatyMD https://x.com/RealEJAntoni…
Hour 2 for 3/28/25 Drew prayed the Chaplet of Divine Mercy with Brooke Taylor (1:00). Then, Doug Hinderer discussed the rise in non-monogamy (25:50). Topics: caller - I stayed single after divorce (30:55), Harvard happiness study (38:12), being unequally yoked (40:13), non-monogamy can't make you happy (43:33), and I'll never forget my husband's cheating (44:40). Links: https://scepterpublishers.org/products/preorder-rekindled-hearts-a-spiritual-journey-to-marital-healing?srsltid=AfmBOoodAQgymzDm8kDWLIYZaWsA8EFUClSqA6cYJWKXWnuz4i19WPCf…
Hour 1 for 3/27/25 Drew welcomed Clemente Lisi to discuss the NPR and PBS grilling on Capital Hill (19:56), PBS and NPR rebrand? (26:40), state-sponsored media (29:28), and I used to support NPR; no more (32:57). Then, Shalya Elm covered the important work Christ in the City does with the homeless (37:22). Link: @clementelisi https://religionunplugged.com/ https://christinthecity.org/…
Hour 2 for 3/27/25 Drew prayed the Chaplet of Divine Mercy with Helen (1:00). Then, Dr. John Bergsma broke down the potential findings underneath the pyramids in Giza (32:11). Callers: I think there is potential for misuse (43:00) and a physicist shares his view (46:08).
Hour 3 for 3/27/25 Drew welcomed Dr. Andrew V. Abela to the show to discuss how the virtues are super habits (1:00). Topics: Aristotle and Aquinas (5:55), temperance (8:58), virtue and drinking wine (14:53), why virtues go hand in hand with each other (27:44), humility (28:57), Dr. Abela's book (32:09), virtue and cognitive behavioral therapy (33:44), corporate America (39:23), St. John Paul II (41:54), and how to practice restraint (43:27). Links: https://sophiainstitute.com/product/super-habits/?srsltid=AfmBOoqmXjs1muToxq187dEpGp30xPe82qYihGu7J9Hmx2IO0goA_ZvM https://business.catholic.edu/faculty-and-research/faculty-profiles/abela-andrew/index.html…
Hour 1 for 3/26/25 Dr. James Robbins joined Drew to break down the Signal Group Chat story (10:46). Then, Fr. Paul Sullins broke down why fewer women choose to get married (25:04). Topics: the single life (35:26), trade schools (41:09), left and right brain integration (43:35), and single siblings (46:41). Links: https://www.iwp.edu/leadership/james-s-robbins/ https://ruthinstitute.org/…
Hour 2 or 3/26/25 Drew prayed the Chaplet of Divine Mercy with Brooke Taylor (1:00). Then, Dr. Kenneth Craycraft discussed concerns with 23&Me (26:27), owning DNA (35:43), national security risks (40:56), ancestry.com (43:33), and insurance companies (47:31).
Hour 3 for 3/26/25 Drew was joined by Deacon Ernie Martinez to discuss the rise in popularity of True Crime content (5:17), ethical concerns (7:50), fascination with criminals (18:02), and women and crime (19:58). Then, Dr. Jeff Gardner covered media manipulation and environmentalism (26:10), anti-human agenda (32:54), getting outside (39:23), and fear and the end of the world (40:54). Link: https://hearthandfield.com/massaged-by-the-media-staying-afloat-in-an-environmental-media-maelstrom/…
Hour 1 for 3/25/25 Drew welcomed Steve Cortes to discuss the pivotal Wisconsin Supreme Court Race (15:53). Then, Brigitte Gabriel broke down the growing number of coverts to Islam in prisons (28:19). Callers: I am an ex-Muslim Christian (41:34) and caller: I work in prisons and I disagree with the guests (44:00). Links: @CortesSteve https://catholicvote.org/ @ACTBrigitte https://www.actforamerica.org/aboutbrigitte…
Hour 2 for 3/25/25 Drew prayed the Chaplet of Divine Mercy with Brooke Taylor (1:00). Then, Dr. Mark Miravalle covered the great solemnity of the Annunciation (27:06) and Scripture and Our Lady (39:20). Topics: Celebrating March 25 (41:37), I'm a Lutheran and I'm celebrating today (43:11), and is it possible that God asked another woman before Mary? (45:01). Link: https://www.motherofallpeoples.com/…
Hour 3 for 3/25/25 Drew was joined by Theo McManigal to discuss why some men prefer pornography to sex and real relationships (1:00). Topics: how porn robs ambition (9:00), Theo's story of recovery (11:25), dystopian future (17:55). Then, Lacy Bentley joined Drew to discuss pornography recovery for women (26:50), the Road the Purity (36:50), and caller: I'm worried for my kids (43:30). Links: lacy@herrecoveryroadmap.com https://www.covenanteyes.com/…
Hour 1 for 3/24/25 Lawyer Richard Craig joined Drew to discuss the lawsuit against an abortionist who left baby parts in a woman's body (15:57). Then, Dr. Charles Camosy discussed a recent ruling that frozen embryos aren't property (31:05) and the connections between IVF and slavery (41:36). Link: https://www.charlescamosy.com/…
Hour 2 for 3/24/25 Drew prayed the Chaplet of Divine Mercy with Helen (1:00). Then, author Dr. Scott Powell covered American cultural renewal (26:43) and the importance of knowing the American founding (42:23).
Hour 3 for 3/24/25 Drew was joined by Paul Oster to discuss avoiding tax scams and identity theft (1:25). Topics: the dark web (11:50), IRS issues (16:57), IRS pin (19:50), getting rid of the dark web (21:58), crypto issues (29:01), LifeLock (31:54), husband stole my identity (35:36), stolen vehicle (41:23), food stamp hacks (43:00), and text message scam (45:15). Link: https://www.youtube.com/@BetterQualifiedLLCEatontown…
Hour 1 for 3/21/25 Drew covered Trump's recent tussle with the judiciary (2:01), judicial impeachments (11:28), and the Supreme Court (15:35). Then, Shari Few covered Trump's executive order about closing the Department of Education (28:23), and plan for state and education (39:07. Link: @thejimjams https://truthandliesfilm.us/ https://uspie.org/…
Hour 2 for 3/21/25 Guest-host Ed Morrissey welcomed Prof. Robert George to discuss his latest book Truth Matters , good disagreement (1:51), obstacles to engagement (10:43), subsidiarity (14:05), and fruitful discourse (20:56). Then, Father Tad Pacholczyk discussed embryonic stem-cell research and the NIH (26:35), informed consent with human tissue (39:48), and what to expect from the new NIH (46:03). Links: https://a.co/d/eRpJC47 https://robertpgeorge.com/ https://www.fathertad.com/ https://www.ncbcenter.org/ @McCormickProf @EdMorrissey…
Hour 2 for 3/21/25 Ed Morrisey and Brooke Taylor prayed the Chaplet of Divine Mercy together (1:00). Then, Devin Schadt broke down the death of American masculinity (21:11), St. Joseph (28:02), respect and sacrifice (35:22), pillars of St. Joseph (37:28), and raising modern knights (41:57). Link: https://fathersofstjoseph.org/…
Hour 1 for 3/20/25 Drew was joined by Dr. Matthew Bunson to discuss Christians in the Holy Land (16:15). Then, Dr. Susan Hanssen broke down the JFK files (30:19) and why controversy surrounds assassinations (41:03). Caller: My dad saw Jack Ruby in the Pentagon (45:02). Link: Relevantradio.com/UDallas…
Hour 2 for 3/20/25 Drew prayed the Chaplet of Divine Mercy with Elizabeth Simutis (1:00). Then, Joe Wilson joined Drew to discuss '100 Movies Every Catholic Should See' (26:50). Topics: A Man for All Seasons (31:53), Indiana Jones (34:54), Sci-Fi Films (35:54), I, Confess (40:41), and caller favorites (42:35). Link: https://100catholicmovies.substack.com/p/the-official-list-of-100-movies-every…
Hour 3 for 3/20/25 Doug Hinderer joined Drew to discuss how to navigate intimacy struggles in marriage (1:14). Callers: I didn't have physical intimacy in my marriage for 15 years (10:07), is intimacy after menopause ok? (14:10), intent within the marital act (16:56), my husband got a vasectomy (19:16), ED issues (26:34), ED after surgery (28:28), trouble with intimacy (32:07), completing the marital act (36:17), I'm having intimacy problems (42:25), and I got married at 89 (45:52). Link: https://relevantradio.com/listen/our-shows/marriage-unhindered/…
Hour 1 for 3/19/25 Drew, Brooke Taylor and Peter Atkinson pitched together for a special Merry Beggars Pledge Drive. Link: https://www.themerrybeggars.com/shows/the-saints
Hour 2 for 3/19/25 Drew prayed the Chaplet of Divine Mercy with Brooke Taylor. Then, Peter, Brooke and Drew continued the Merry Beggars Pledge Drive. Link: https://www.themerrybeggars.com/shows/the-saints
Hour 3 for 3/19/25 Drew, Peter and Brooke broke down a special challenge match hour for the Merry Beggars! Links: https://secure.relevantradio.com/site/Donation2?df_id=1881&mfc_pref=T&1881.donation=form1 https://www.themerrybeggars.com/shows/the-saints
Hour 1 for 3/18/25 Drew welcomed Dr. Monica Miller to discuss upcoming Planned Parenthood protests (17:07). Then, Msgr. Shea broke down a survey that said 60% of Americans don't believe in God (26:36), inviting others to Mass (39:29), and why the 'Church of nice' hasn't worked (41:24). Links: cometomary.life https://nomoneyforabortion.com/…
Hour 2 for 3/18/25 Drew and Nick prayed the Chaplet of Divine Mercy (1:00). Then, Dr. Paul Thigpen covered the Life of St. Joseph (26:24) and the marriage and death of St. Joseph (39:30). Link: https://tanbooks.com/products/books/the-life-of-st-joseph-as-seen-by-the-mystics/
Hour 3 for 3/18/24 Dr. Mark Miravalle joined Drew to discuss St. Joseph (4:09). Topics: terror of demons (14:45), Our Lady of Knock (17:20), obedience (19:04), the heart of St. Joseph (26:54), was St. Joseph assumed into heaven? (30:55), St. Joseph and home remodel (33:58), St. Joseph saved me from a bad guy (38:23), St. Josepha and my husband's job (41:43), and selling a house (44:01). Links: https://www.markmiravalle.com/ https://www.motherofallpeoples.com/…
Hour 1 for 3/17/25 Michael New joined Drew to discuss pro-life issues (15:41) and anti-life companies (22:51). Then, Professor Daniel Mark covered Dems in disarray (26:48), Trump (39:23), caller: why I'm a Democrat (41:33), caller: I'm a former state rep who was a dem (46:18). Links: @Michael_J_New https://undpress.nd.edu/9780268208219/the-nature-of-law/…
Hour 2 for 3/17/25 Drew prayed the Chaplet of Divine Mercy with Brooke Taylor (1:00). Then, Brian Ó Conchubhair from Notre Dame joined Drew to discuss St. Patrick (30:41) and his miracles (43:42). Link: https://irishlanguage.nd.edu/people/brian-o-conchubhair/
Hour 3 for 3/17/25 Dr. Jennifer Roback Morse joined Drew to discuss if America has an infidelity epidemic (1:00). Topics included: motivations for infidelity (5:49), caller: the role of trauma (13:45), affairs (16:26), and caller: my husband cheated (21:06). Then, Doug Hinderer continued the conversation (27:14). Topics: restoring trust (28:41), if marriage can get stronger (33:56), caller: I think my future ex-wife cheated? (36:34), and my husband wants a divorce (41:19). Links: https://ruthinstitute.org/about/ https://relevantradio.com/listen/our-shows/marriage-unhindered/ https://www.thealexanderhouse.org/…
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