Meet two best friends who spend their days (and way too many late nights) living and breathing self-publishing. One’s an editor and book coach who loves a strong story arc, and the other’s a book cover designer obsessed with typography and color palettes. Together, they pull back the curtain on what it’s really like to create books for a living.

Each episode, they dive into the messy, hilarious, and rewarding world of indie publishing—from launch-day highs to formatting fails, client chaos, and the behind-the-scenes realities of running a creative business.

You’ll also get straight-talk advice for authors: how to level up your manuscript, what makes a book cover actually sell, how to prepare for self-publishing, and the industry myths you should stop believing right now.

If you’re an author, a future author, or just someone who loves books and the stories behind them, this podcast is your weekly dose of real talk, industry insight, and best-friend banter you won’t want to miss.