#1: Cognition - Jason Healey

Beyond the Breach

How and why do humans take action against short-term threats, like terrorism, but struggle to respond when threats are more abstract, like climate change or cybersecurity? In this episode Jonathan heads to New York City and talks to Jason Healey, Senior Research Scholar at Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs, about how humanity has responded to climate change and cyber threats. Jonathan and Brandon Kirk Williams, a researcher at Illumio, open by introducing the thinking of Harvard psychologist Daniel Gilbert on cognition. Jay then offers proposals for cybersecurity risk management, drawing from his experience in the White House and working on global risk management at Goldman Sachs. Additional Reading Daniel Gilbert on short-term vs. long-term threats https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5530483 https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2006-jul-02-op-gilbert2-story.html Jason Healey, A Fierce Domain: Conflict in Cyberspace, 1986-2012. https://www.amazon.com/Fierce-Domain-Conflict-Cyberspace-1986/dp/098932740X Jason Healey and Rob Knake, Zero Botnets: Building a Global Effort to Clean up the Internet, Council on Foreign Relations, https://cfrd8-files.cfr.org/sites/default/files/report_pdf/CSR83_HealeyKnake_Botnets_0.pdf