"Second Wave Goodbye" with Carrie Evans - 016

But Her Lyrics...

What’s up with the Second Wave Feminist to TERF pipeline? How dangerous to trans people are they really? Are lesbians really disappearing? (Spoiler, no). Host Shawna explains the War On Women song “Second Wave Goodbye” and speaks with Carrie Evans, former policy director of Equality Maryland, to discuss the real dangers of trans-exclusionary radical “feminism” and how we can better focus our energy to fight for trans rights. Sprinkle in some old Dan Savage sayings and a little science, as a treat. Listen through the end to hear the song in question.

The official sponsor of this episode are First Defense Krav Maga out of Herndon, VA.

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Thanks to Brooks Harlan for chopping up War On Women’s song “Her?” to create the podcast theme song. Main podcast photo: Justin Borucki.

Content Warning: Transphobia, sexual violence.

Episode Links:

Ally or Accomplice?:

https://www.learningforjustice.org/magazine/ally-or-accomplice-the-language-of-activism

Action Tips for Accomplices:

https://lgbt.wisc.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/175/2016/08/GSCC-Action-tips-for-accomplices-of-trans-people.pdf

Carrie’s Viral Video: https://www.queerty.com/carrie-evans-viral-defense-pride-flag-coming-home-moment-20201106

Shai Hulud Cover Song: https://nosleeprecords.bandcamp.com/track/just-cant-hate-enough-originally-by-sheer-terror

Dealing with online harassment: https://iheartmob.org/

Were we all female?: https://www.sciencealert.com/watch-we-were-once-all-female

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